: Lancer Evo X $30,000 for the GSR and $36,000 for MR


Jackygor
11-15-2007, 08:52 PM
Mitsubishi pulled the covers off the US-spec 2008 Lancer Evolution X, and the differences between your red, white, and blue steed and the one from its homeland are: the steering wheel is on the left, versions with the 6-speed SST auto 'box are called the MR (the 5-speed manual is the GSR), and the seat cushions are longer in order to fit longer American bodies.

The stripper RS model is not on offer here -- that's the one without a radio and power options. The differences between our GSR and the MR aren't many, but depending on your preferences they might not be minor. The standard GSR has a radio and power accessories, but does not come with a wing -- that would get added in the Sight, Sound, and Spoiler package, which throws in HID headlamps and a 650-watt Rockford Fosgate system. The optional package for the MR is the Technology Package, which adds goodies to the stereo system (like a subwoofer and hard drive), Bluetooth, navigation, and the Fast Key entry system.

When it comes to inner workings, the GS rides on 18-inch Enkeis. The MR gets 18-inch BBS forged alloys, as well as Bilstein shock absorbers, Eibach springs, and 2-piece rotors. Voila. Lancer Evo X pricing according to one source will be around $30,000 for the GSR, and $36,000 for the MR. Follow the jump to read the full press release and options, and check out our live shots of the car's reveal in the gallery below. Video of the live introduction is also available after the jump.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/15/la-2007-us-spec-2008-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-lands/

The "one source"

http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/11/15/la-auto-show-2008-mitsubishi-lancer-evo-unofficial-pricing-info/

They say SST is delayed until November, if so I really don't know.

Kooldino
11-15-2007, 08:57 PM
$30K sounds good to me. Hopefully that's accurate.

So the US won't get SST until November? Wow. Hey, I'd rather they delayed it to death rather than release it half-ass.

Rosshole
11-15-2007, 09:02 PM
wow, that is way less than I was expecting, Awesome!

Jackygor
11-15-2007, 09:02 PM
$30K sounds good to me. Hopefully that's accurate.

So the US won't get SST until November? Wow. Hey, I'd rather they delayed it to death rather than release it half-ass.

I don't want to wait anymore :(

I was hoping it was delayed until spring.

BUT....

If the delay is because they are replacing the normal DSG with the borgwarner's NEW improved DSG, than I wouldn't mind

Here is the link...

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/13/borgwarner-builds-a-better-dsg/

These are high power output applications that would be hindered by BorgWarner's original DSG design without improvements. For these next generation systems the wet-clutch system has been changed to a moist-clutch system requiring less lubrication and therefore a smaller oil pump.....

DaemonSadi
11-15-2007, 09:55 PM
If it's 30k then I will happily accept the fact that I can't get the sexy wheels/springs/brakes with a manual... If it isn't, I will kill someone.

Kooldino
11-15-2007, 10:12 PM
lol

LowUFO
11-15-2007, 11:50 PM
*Fingers crossed for the MR in Canada for $45k cdn (or less, of course.)

Jackygor
11-16-2007, 01:09 AM
*Fingers crossed for the MR in Canada for $45k cdn (or less, of course.)

I am with you on this one mate :afro:

MDMitsuX
11-16-2007, 03:40 AM
ok...now I'm real pumped for the car...I get to order mine early next month!!! (the dealership I'm going through ordered their one alottment the day before I went in to talk to them...and they can't order another one until december...so my MR order goes in next month)...I just hope these prices are accurate

Jackygor
11-16-2007, 03:44 AM
ok...now I'm real pumped for the car...I get to order mine early next month!!! (the dealership I'm going through ordered their one alottment the day before I went in to talk to them...and they can't order another one until december...so my MR order goes in next month)...I just hope these prices are accurate

Us canucks hope so too! :D

Tvall13
11-16-2007, 04:16 AM
Don't get too excited yet its still estimated pricing info. I'll let you guys know how much they're charging for my White GSR SSS package and aero kit as soon as they call me.

EndgamE
11-16-2007, 05:38 AM
The artical that says Nov. doesn't seem right since Mitsu is marketing the car for 08 and if it comes out in nov. 08 that makes it an 09. and there was/is a delay for the SST in Japan, maybe thats what it's talkin about...

soopah
11-16-2007, 06:04 AM
*Fingers crossed for the MR in Canada for $45k cdn (or less, of course.)

That price is still F---ed up, man. If the GSR = US$30K and MR = US$36 then why would you be happy paying $9K more? The duty on Japanese made cars coming into Canada is 6.1% only, so a Canadian GSR should be around C$32K. But we know it will be much higher than that. Serves us stupid Canadians right for being such pushover weenies (me included).

I know these are just guesstimates, but this stuff sets me off!

Jackygor
11-16-2007, 06:18 AM
That price is still F---ed up, man. If the GSR = US$30K and MR = US$36 then why would you be happy paying $9K more? The duty on Japanese made cars coming into Canada is 6.1% only, so a Canadian GSR should be around C$32K. But we know it will be much higher than that. Serves us stupid Canadians right for being such pushover weenies (me included).

I know these are just guesstimates, but this stuff sets me off!

Sadly, this is part of living in Canada :(

We can't even import it from US since it is not allowed by RIV.

soopah
11-16-2007, 06:33 AM
Sadly, this is part of living in Canada :(

We can't even import it from US since it is not allowed by RIV.

That is correct. Our EVO X bumpers will be full of extra steel.

I think we should have real US pricing for the Evo X any minute now. Why? 'Cause the STI prices are out (which can be imported to Canada, AFAIK).

STI with VDC $34,995
STI with silver or gold BBS wheels and VDC $36,995
STI with Navigation, silver BBS wheels and VDC $38,785
+ $645 destination fee (Washington State)

source: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2008.html

I'm almost tempted to buy one of the last new 2007 Mazdaspeed6's in BC, can possibly buy for dealer invoice minus a $7,000 factory stackable rebate, or about $9,700 off MSRP (just under $28K before taxes). Makes it almost $6K cheaper than a WRX in Canada. Should I do this or wait and hope Mitsu Canada gives us sane pricing for the EVO? Or import an STI?

Jackygor
11-16-2007, 06:46 AM
That is correct. Our EVO X bumpers will be full of extra steel.

I think we should have real US pricing for the Evo X any minute now. Why? 'Cause the STI prices are out (which can be imported to Canada, AFAIK).

STI with VDC $34,995
STI with silver or gold BBS wheels and VDC $36,995
STI with Navigation, silver BBS wheels and VDC $38,785
+ $645 destination fee (Washington State)

source: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2008.html

I'm almost tempted to buy one of the last new 2007 Mazdaspeed6's in BC, can possibly buy for dealer invoice minus a $7,000 factory stackable rebate, or about $9,700 off MSRP (just under $28K before taxes). Makes it almost $6K cheaper than a WRX in Canada. Should I do this or wait and hope Mitsu Canada gives us sane pricing for the EVO? Or import an STI?

NOOOOO SOOPAH ANYTHING BUT MS6!

I know it looks great on paper, but i heard the AWD system is worthless! It is FWD most of the time and torque is only distributed when slippage is detected! It is a FWD based AWD system, which is not as good as full time awd and rwd based awd.

I also heard the clutch is left much to be desired.

If you are consider MS6, how about legacy?

what do you mena by "wait and hope Mitsu Canada gives us sane pricing for the EVO?"

Evo X is likely to sell really well because of high demand. So I don't think waiting is a good option.

I have read reviews how the 09 STI ride a lot like the legacy. If i were you, I will look into legacy, because it looks better than the STI.

If you think the STI looks good, then import the STI by all means, I would too if i like the design.

soopah
11-16-2007, 07:17 AM
NOOOOO SOOPAH ANYTHING BUT MS6!

I know it looks great on paper, but i heard the AWD system is worthless! It is FWD most of the time and torque is only distributed when slippage is detected! It is a FWD based AWD system, which is not as good as full time awd and rwd based awd.

I also heard the clutch is left much to be desired.

If you are consider MS6, how about legacy?

what do you mena by "wait and hope Mitsu Canada gives us sane pricing for the EVO?"

Evo X is likely to sell really well because of high demand. So I don't think waiting is a good option.

I have read reviews how the 09 STI ride a lot like the legacy. If i were you, I will look into legacy, because it looks better than the STI.

If you think the STI looks good, then import the STI by all means, I would too if i like the design.

I appreciate your opinion. I guess I am going a little car crazy lately wondering what to get.

I heard the clutch issues were fixed in '07. And power loss issues are due to inadequate octane fuel.

By waiting I just mean waiting until we know the EVO pricing. The new '07 MS6's are almost all gone. I could go get one this weekend. In a week or two they probably won't be available as an option to me.

Hey, there are lot's of Mazda folks on this forum. Anyone with experience with the MS6? Good, bad, ugly?

Importing is only an option if I find a company to do it for me, then I'd lease it from them.

The Legacy is not to my liking and they are pricey in Canada. But I know the MS6 is closer to a Legacy GT than to either the EVO or STI.

LowUFO
11-16-2007, 09:23 AM
$35K in US is for the base model STi, which is no heated anything.

Canada base STi has all the heated stuff. In the US, all heated-is only in Premium package, which is $2k. So your $35k usd just jumped to $37k usd. Add provincial sales tax and gst totalling 13% starting from Jan 1.

$37k * 6.1% duty * 13% gst/pst = $44.4k

A reputable authority tells the owner of the Toronto Subaru Club that the STi will be around $43K. So if he's right, * 13% = $48.6k

The difference $4.2K.


But the problem here is the financing. If you can get it from an equity credit line, the interest rate is prime - 6.25%
So that would be $864/mo or total $51,813

Subaru Canada could give a best case 2.9% (Not likely) rate for 5 years, that would be $871/mo and total - $52,267

In the end, with the $43K price in Canada and 2.9% - the difference is only $500.

SATimko
11-16-2007, 12:15 PM
If it wasn't for student loans, I'd go put a deposit on one right now!

EvoXCrazy
11-16-2007, 01:05 PM
So down payment would be $4,000us + change for either model ?

soopah
11-16-2007, 02:42 PM
$35K in US is for the base model STi, which is no heated anything.

Canada base STi has all the heated stuff. In the US, all heated-is only in Premium package, which is $2k. So your $35k usd just jumped to $37k usd. Add provincial sales tax and gst totalling 13% starting from Jan 1.

$37k * 6.1% duty * 13% gst/pst = $44.4k

A reputable authority tells the owner of the Toronto Subaru Club that the STi will be around $43K. So if he's right, * 13% = $48.6k

The difference $4.2K.


But the problem here is the financing. If you can get it from an equity credit line, the interest rate is prime - 6.25%
So that would be $864/mo or total $51,813

Subaru Canada could give a best case 2.9% (Not likely) rate for 5 years, that would be $871/mo and total - $52,267

In the end, with the $43K price in Canada and 2.9% - the difference is only $500.

I haven't seen any packages listed yet, just standard US equipment. Nothing on Canadian side yet.

Nice analyis LowUFO!

2.9% on the STI? Highly unlikely, as you suggest. The WRX rates are currently 5.9% for 60 months and 4.9% for the 36 month lease or 5.9% for 4 year lease. OK rates, but not great. Expect STI rates in the first 4 months to be higher. I'd kill for a 2.9% rate!

The plan for me would be to find some lease company with favourable rates (a challenge) to buy the car in US and lease it to me. May be more trouble than it is worth.

EVOXCO
11-16-2007, 03:05 PM
I appreciate your opinion. I guess I am going a little car crazy lately wondering what to get.

I heard the clutch issues were fixed in '07. And power loss issues are due to inadequate octane fuel.

By waiting I just mean waiting until we know the EVO pricing. The new '07 MS6's are almost all gone. I could go get one this weekend. In a week or two they probably won't be available as an option to me.

Hey, there are lot's of Mazda folks on this forum. Anyone with experience with the MS6? Good, bad, ugly?

Importing is only an option if I find a company to do it for me, then I'd lease it from them.

The Legacy is not to my liking and they are pricey in Canada. But I know the MS6 is closer to a Legacy GT than to either the EVO or STI.

Dont do the MS6 my wife has one and that thing is in for work almost every week. The thing is falling apart every day it seems like something new is broken or not working right. The MS6 has hade like two recalls for turbo related stuff. As far as if its fast its not I could only get a 16 flat out of it in the 1/4 mile (keep in mind I am in Colorado where ther is no air LOL) the AWD is not bad but its not great. Lets just say that I am getting an EVO X because the MS6 leaves alot to be desired.

Rosshole
11-16-2007, 03:31 PM
yeah, but the MS6 is in a totally different class than the EVO.

Kooldino
11-16-2007, 04:15 PM
NOOOOO SOOPAH ANYTHING BUT MS6!

I know it looks great on paper, but i heard the AWD system is worthless! It is FWD most of the time and torque is only distributed when slippage is detected! It is a FWD based AWD system, which is not as good as full time awd and rwd based awd.

I also heard the clutch is left much to be desired.

If you are consider MS6, how about legacy?

what do you mena by "wait and hope Mitsu Canada gives us sane pricing for the EVO?"

Evo X is likely to sell really well because of high demand. So I don't think waiting is a good option.

I have read reviews how the 09 STI ride a lot like the legacy. If i were you, I will look into legacy, because it looks better than the STI.

If you think the STI looks good, then import the STI by all means, I would too if i like the design.


The MS6 and the Evo X aren't comparable cars.

The MS6 isn't a TRUE performance car. It's a sport touring car.

Kooldino
11-16-2007, 04:20 PM
Dont do the MS6 my wife has one and that thing is in for work almost every week. The thing is falling apart every day it seems like something new is broken or not working right. The MS6 has hade like two recalls for turbo related stuff. As far as if its fast its not I could only get a 16 flat out of it in the 1/4 mile (keep in mind I am in Colorado where ther is no air LOL) the AWD is not bad but its not great. Lets just say that I am getting an EVO X because the MS6 leaves alot to be desired.

16 flat? Either you're an awful driver, or your car is severely screwed up.

I know guys who ran high 13s with a stock MS6.

Rosshole
11-16-2007, 04:20 PM
*Mazda Enthusiasts Unite!

EVOXCO
11-16-2007, 04:40 PM
16 flat? Either you're an awful driver, or your car is severely screwed up.

I know guys who ran high 13s with a stock MS6.
Dude its called altitude LOL try like 5900 feet cars dont like thin air.

TeamEvo
11-16-2007, 11:48 PM
maybe now people will quit arguing about the specs that were posted a month or two ago ... :)

soopah
11-17-2007, 12:01 AM
Well, I didn't buy the MS6. I'm just going to have to wait until January, see both cars in person, then have my factory order placed for the better car (better for me).

Aptom
11-17-2007, 02:06 AM
:cool: I can't wait!

_Chris_
11-17-2007, 10:52 AM
maybe now people will quit arguing about the specs that were posted a month or two ago ... :)

Word!

EvoJim
11-17-2007, 11:54 AM
Hey guys maybe Im just slow but are these announcements saying that the MR / SST isnt coming till Nov as in delayed another year??

EVOXCO
11-17-2007, 09:15 PM
So I called the delar today and they said that the price is going to be released on Monday morning.

soopah
11-18-2007, 07:35 AM
So I called the delar today and they said that the price is going to be released on Monday morning.

I forget where you're from. Are you getting US or Canadian pricing?

shadywade
11-18-2007, 09:16 AM
woo hope this is acc i just did a back flip

EVOXCO
11-18-2007, 02:32 PM
I forget where you're from. Are you getting US or Canadian pricing?
I am in the U.S I dont know if I can wait untill tomorrow LOL. I will post up prices when I find them out.

Tvall13
11-19-2007, 09:56 PM
Hey any updates on the price? It was supposed to be released today right?

soopah
11-19-2007, 10:08 PM
I checked google news and there is nothing yet.

Kooldino
11-19-2007, 10:20 PM
Hey guys maybe Im just slow but are these announcements saying that the MR / SST isnt coming till Nov as in delayed another year??

Right, nov '08, AFAIK.

soopah
11-19-2007, 10:25 PM
Right, nov '08, AFAIK.

Delayed to Nov. 08? Now I'm super (soopah?) slow. I thought they meant the SST was causing delays in sales/production of the Evo in Japan to November 2007. Local dealers I've talked to in Vancouver still think they are getting the MR next year, just delayed a couple or few months, like towards the end of winter / start of spring.

Kooldino
11-19-2007, 10:56 PM
Yeah, I the KMX or someone posted in one of the threads here that the SST box was delayed until fall.

soopah
11-20-2007, 12:21 AM
Yeah, I the KMX or someone posted in one of the threads here that the SST box was delayed until fall.

The article that announced this delay stated:
"insiders now believe that because of reliability glitches, the first SST models won’t roll out of the factory until early next year, delaying their arrival in the UK until summer. Officially, Mitsubishi claims that there are no problems. The company insists that the Evo X will be available with both the SST gearbox and a more conventional five-speed manual unit from its UK launch in March."
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/212148/mitsubishi_on_hold.html

Unnamed insiders. OK, do we have any other sources? It is believeable, but lets not all drink the kool-aid right away. Like I said, dealers in Vancouver expect to get MR Evo's around spring, like March, April, thereabouts. They could be wrong, as they are about most things to do with the Evo.

leakslikasieve
11-20-2007, 12:23 AM
Dont do the MS6 my wife has one and that thing is in for work almost every week. The thing is falling apart every day it seems like something new is broken or not working right. The MS6 has hade like two recalls for turbo related stuff. As far as if its fast its not I could only get a 16 flat out of it in the 1/4 mile (keep in mind I am in Colorado where ther is no air LOL) the AWD is not bad but its not great. Lets just say that I am getting an EVO X because the MS6 leaves alot to be desired.

i own a ms6, it is in no way a competitor to the evo or sti, even though from a roll it IS just as fast. i pulled a 13.8@101.87 at english town this past summer. with a 1.8 60' time, that was with an intake.

the car is not set up to be the same type of car as the evo or sti, its not the extreme sports club racer. its more a legacy spec b, which the ms6 still manages to outhandle, though it is slower around most TIGHT road courses. its really simple, the ms6 is heavy, it is a fwd bias system, however its almost never 100:0. its only 100:0 if your doing less then 5 mph as to not bind up the rear axle if you sudden stop. other then that its mostly 95:5 at worst, going all the way to 50:50 with a rear lsd which makes it really fun, but in order for the car to not understeer heavily you really need to stay in in throttle and coax the rear to slide out. there have been plenty of times on a hard launch in the rain where i can swear to god the rear tires actually spin first.

im not saying its a best car. i love my car, it suits me perfectly, and its treated me awesome, plus i bought it for 21900. which you cant beat.

now back on topic. if the evo gsr comes out actually at the price of 30g, and can actually be purchased for that price, i t may very well be my next car. i was planning on keeping the ms6 no matter what, but if i get the evo x i wont need to, the evo is everything and more. and the new interior actually makes it look like im not downgrading by more then one plank.

oh and good to meet everyone. i want a silver gsr.

soopah
11-20-2007, 12:39 AM
Welcome to the forums!!!

I was sitting in a dealership last week just $700 away from buying an MS6. They let me walk away and cooler heads have since prevailed. If I could have bought it for $21,900 I would have. That's less than the price of a Lancer GTS up here. I was at $27,700 (+GST+PST)and they wouldn't go for it! Prices are still F'd up around here!!!

leakslikasieve
11-20-2007, 12:44 AM
Welcome to the forums!!!

I was sitting in a dealership last week just $700 away from buying an MS6. They let me walk away and cooler heads have since prevailed. If I could have bought it for $21,900 I would have. That's less than the price of a Lancer GTS up here. I was at $27,700 (+GST+PST)and they wouldn't go for it! Prices are still F'd up around here!!!

yeah i mean honestly i got it for 24075 out the door. i worked for the dealer so i had a little break. but it was an 06 with 5000 rebate, 2000 dealer discount, and like 1800 mileage discount as the car had 1400 miles on it, and was driven by the regional service rep(63 year old woman). thats the reason i bought the car. i had a 500 deposit on the 07 gti. and would have been very happy with it, but i got the ms6 for the same price.
no one has them here, they sound utterly amazing with exhaust, and the looks i get are great.

like i said, if i can get the evo x gsr for the msrp price and i can actually afford that kinda money at the time, them ill go for it. i have to see.

ayS
12-02-2007, 06:00 PM
nice pricing. i just wished that the GSR at least came with the wing, without needed to add it on extra.

Kooldino
12-02-2007, 06:04 PM
^I think most of them will be configured with the SSS package so it will be common.

soopah
12-02-2007, 06:37 PM
^I think most of them will be configured with the SSS package so it will be common.

But not for Canucks. There will be a market for Evo spoilers north of the 49th parallel.