BM's new 20th anniversary issue (next month) will finally feature the X-SST vs. X-5MT vs. STi:
http://www.bestmotoring.jp/BM/200801/images/ph_3_07b.jpg

And the X-SST vs. X-5MT:
http://www.bestmotoring.jp/BM/200801/images/ph_3_03b.jpg

Should be out in a few days!

So i see they finally finalized the SST?

I will be waiting for the video.

I wonder how the G37 stacks up against the evo and the STI. The g37 is supposed to be a better track car than the 335i.

They must have. The SST is tearing up the tarmac in the second pic (right car). Looks like the launch control is complete. :)

They must have. The SST is tearing up the tarmac in the second pic (right car). Looks like the launch control is complete. :)

Haha, how did you know that isn't the 5MT? Liquid_Ag

I don't!
But, it doesn't have a keyhole, must be the technology upgrade.

I don't!
But, it doesn't have a keyhole, must be the technology upgrade.

Thats what I notice too...

ack, we will find out soon enough.

I really hope SST isn't slower than the 5MT in the straights.

I just hope one of the X's will be faster than the IX on Tsukuba.

I just hope one of the X's will be faster than the IX on Tsukuba.

That too, but JDM evo 9 is going to be hard to beat, well at least on paper.

It is lighter, has more power and has YAW, then again, it would be stupid for mitsubishi them to build the EVO 10 to be slower than the EVO 9.

I don't!
But, it doesn't have a keyhole, must be the technology upgrade.

Good observation!

Cant wait to see the results.

I don't!
But, it doesn't have a keyhole, must be the technology upgrade.

no keyhole means GSR...the MR has fastkey and the button keyhole...so the one on the left would be SST...

i think will be a review everyone will be looking forward to. not only is it STi vs. EVO. but MR vs GSR. should be interesting.

no keyhole means GSR...the MR has fastkey and the button keyhole...so the one on the left would be SST...

Woohoo! I hope so! Makes more sense anyway... how would a flappy-paddle burn more rubber then a straight 5sp? That doesn't make much sense to me @_@

So any idea when this is going to be released for us to watch?

no keyhole means GSR...the MR has fastkey and the button keyhole...so the one on the left would be SST...

Are you sure about that? I thought they had a hidden lever to open the trunks or something?

The photo shows a 2007 STI, not an '08.

Yep. MR has the keyhole..

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_evox-7.jpg

I'm not sure the keyhole/no keyhole distinction applies to JDM cars...

The left car is SST and according to the trailer for the video the SST does the 1/4 in 13.650.

in the 2nd pic, it says SST if you look right about the wing on the left car.

The left car is SST and according to the trailer for the video the SST does the 1/4 in 13.650.are you serious? the mazdaspeed 6 is as fast as the new evo :p

Uh oh... and so it begins. Comparing different class cars... hahahaha.

teehee

http://www.bestmotoring.jp/BM/200801/

hard to say who won but evo 9 is overtaking the x

The left car is SST and according to the trailer for the video the SST does the 1/4 in 13.650.

ouchh, how about the 5MT?

13.6 isn't bad. That's only a couple of tenths off of the IX, IIRC. Certainly not as slow as the bellyachers say.

http://www.bestmotoring.jp/BM/200801/

hard to say who won but evo 9 is overtaking the x

Looks fun. 13.6 isnt bad at all.

I went to google and translated the the page...

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestmotoring.jp%2FBM%2F200801%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8 (http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestmotoring.jp%2FBM%2F200801%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8)

The seem to like SST and the new AWD a lot.

i agree not bad at all.if it would of been worse then i would be dissapointed.

13.6? that means the usdm version with the added weight is gonna be like 14.0 sec!!

Yeah it's not looking too good for the X, but I can't think that Mitsu would make the car slower overall that would just be ridiculously stupid.

13.6? that means the usdm version with the added weight is gonna be like 14.0 sec!!

+1

ya...on paper, honestly, not looking good for the evo X. :(

13.6? that means the usdm version with the added weight is gonna be like 14.0 sec!!

200lbs extra = .2 seconds, so 13.8

What exactly is this extra 200lbs? And yes Jackygor it most definately is not looking good fo the evo x

I can't say I'm not disappointed, but let's wait for the video.

What exactly is this extra 200lbs? And yes Jackygor it most definately is not looking good fo the evo x

IIRC, the extra 200lbs (actually it's 150ish or so) we have over the JDM model comes from safety reinforcements and such.

ugh.... might have to start looking for a used Elise

Why? The elise is slower than the x.

In what aspect is the elise slower? 0-60 is claimed at 4.9 by lotus, motor trend achieved a 0-60 time of 5.1 with a 13.5 @102.5 1/4 mile. .99g on the skidpad and I can't imagine that the evo x would be able to stop faster considering it weights nearly twice as much. Plus because of such light weight any slight addition to horsepower makes that much more of a difference.

In what aspect is the elise slower? 0-60 is claimed at 4.9 by lotus, motor trend achieved a 0-60 time of 5.1 with a 13.5 @102.5 1/4 mile. .99g on the skidpad and I can't imagine that the evo x would be able to stop faster considering it weights nearly twice as much. Plus because of such light weight any slight addition to horsepower makes that much more of a difference.


Agree, the lotus elise is a dark horse !!!

Back to this upcoming comparo, I predict the winner will be either the IX or definitely the new Sti (if they have that car on hand)....

One more reason for me to seriously look at a new Sti instead of the 10.

In what aspect is the elise slower? 0-60 is claimed at 4.9 by lotus, motor trend achieved a 0-60 time of 5.1 with a 13.5 @102.5 1/4 mile. .99g on the skidpad

Ok, well they're pretty much in the same ballpark then.

and I can't imagine that the evo x would be able to stop faster considering it weights nearly twice as much. [/quote]

I dunno, the X stops really well. 60-0 in ~109 feet or so.

Plus because of such light weight any slight addition to horsepower makes that much more of a difference.

Yeah, but since it's a high strung N/A 4 banger, extracting any extra power out of it will be like squeezing water from a rock. Power mods will be much cheaper, easier, and more significant with the X.

Don't get me wrong, I <3 the elise, and even considered one myself, but it's just not a practical car. I'd drive it twice a week at best.

from what I have seen, and if I'm not mistaken:

the STI had a time of 1'05"95
the EvoX (not sure if it was SST or 5MT) had a time of 1'06"46


damn :(

check this out:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h195/CKsDayOff/chart.jpg

STI: 319 HP 43 Kgm of Torque
EvoX: 298 HP 45 Kgm of Torque

from what I have seen, and if I'm not mistaken:

the STI had a time of 1'05"95
the EvoX (not sure if it was SST or 5MT) had a time of 1'06"46


damn :(

Where did you see this information?

I expected the Evo X to lose, but by a larger margin. The times posted above suggest that the Evo X had lost by a margin of only 0.5 seconds. We all know that the Evo X is much heavier than the STi and has lower Hp/ton, so this is a better-than-expected result from my perspective.

It's unfortunate, however, that the Evo X will lose its historical advantage of being "faster than STi on the track"

Would it be fair to guess that the Evo X graph above depicts the 5MT and not the SST? The curve does not have the smooth shifting nature that I'm guessing the SST might have (being dual clutch?).

check this out:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h195/CKsDayOff/chart.jpg

STI: 319 HP 43 Kgm of Torque
EvoX: 298 HP 45 Kgm of Torque

The Evo X's dyno is impressive. The midrange response is superb, with a great powerband. This car has potential. I think a stripped and tuned X would be formidable at the track.

gsr has the jump but the sst catches up.

5mt got 3rd and sst got 4th at tsukuba

Even if the Evo X loses to the 9 or STI at the track, with some suspension tuning I think it will be pretty close on the track to what ever the Evo X is put up against.

According to those dynos, the X has twice the power at 3000rpm than the subaru. How can that be?

I'd like to see an Aspec STi's dyno graph. It should be completely different as redline is much higher.

According to those dynos, the X has twice the power at 3000rpm than the subaru. How can that be?

So I guess mitsubishi DID try to make more power to offset the weight, they didn't make more power at PEAK, but has a damn flat power band. And we all know that the space under the curve is more important then peak power.

I understand that the Evo X comes with side airbags/curtain in addition to the dual front, the side safety features also add weight!! BUt might make for better insurance rates
:tmyk:

I understand that the Evo X comes with side airbags/curtain in addition to the dual front, the side safety features also add weight!! BUt might make for better insurance rates
:tmyk:

not to mention the knee airbags. :)