: BM Official IX vs X-5MT vs X-SST results!
Here it is guys, what we've all been waiting for. The new BM episode is excellent - the Evo X feature runs an hour long. If you appreciate the X, you must watch this in its entirety because you will not be disappointed. Grab the full video directly from here. (http://www.mininova.org/get/1022831)
1/4 mile times (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-4WNa-pl0Q):
X-5MT (5500RPM)
14.057
X-SST (Normal)
14.193
X-SST (Sport)
14.110
X-SST (S-Sport)
13.650
X-SST (S-Sport, 5000RPM Launch)
13.712
Slalom Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neT-CJQGxC4):
X-5MT (ASC OFF) vs. X-SST (ASC ON)
The X-SST Won, but this battle was wack, watch the video for some hilarity!
Ebisu Circuit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLSLA3mcbNo):
IX-GSR
23.054
X-5MT
22.476 (ASC OFF AYC OFF?)
22.142 (ASC OFF AYC ON?)
23.303 (ASC ON)
Tsukuba Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akFMs90a8Rw) (Best Lap):
IX-MR 1:06.264
07 STi 1:06.581
X-5MT 1:06.919
X-SST 1:07.360
EVOXCO 12-01-2007, 08:15 PM Damn good to know this info. I thought that the SST was going to be faster on the track then the GSR?
Jackygor 12-01-2007, 08:23 PM I have been waiting for this for one f*cking week.
Jackygor 12-01-2007, 08:32 PM Very interesting track information. It seems on the track, when comparing X and 9, it is a driver's race.
Of all the BM vids I've seen this one was quite good.
Seems like all the drivers of the X praised it, including Keiichi Tsuchiya.
Jackygor you should get your sister to translate the whole video.
Jackygor 12-01-2007, 08:45 PM Of all the BM vids I've seen this one was quite good.
Seems like all the drivers of the X praised it, including Keiichi Tsuchiya.
Jackygor you should get your sister to translate the whole video.
Haha, definitely, she is at work right now, I will get her to translate either tonight or tomorrow!
_Chris_ 12-01-2007, 09:07 PM Im preordering the GTR dammit.
Jackygor 12-01-2007, 09:24 PM Im preorder the GTR dammit.
i would if i were u :)
ak47m203 12-01-2007, 09:33 PM how can i view it.... what program?
Saotome9 12-01-2007, 09:37 PM Torrents!
Jackygor 12-01-2007, 10:00 PM how can i view it.... what program?
You gota dl it mate!
_Chris_ 12-01-2007, 10:01 PM 851MB damn
_Chris_ 12-01-2007, 10:02 PM i would if i were u :)
Its probably too late. US is only getting 1500.
I don't know how many of you have seen the video by now, but here's my impression:
-The X-SST is faster in the straights vs the X-5MT. It is inarguable now.
-Around the track SST loses out slightly to the 5MT as shown in the Tsukuba lap times on full automatic with no driver intervention. What would happen if the driver manually shifted the SST?
-On real curvy tracks the X wins over the IX, as shown in one of Ebisu's circuits. It loses on the straights though like on Tsukuba.
After seeing the dyno graph and watching this vid I'm convinced on the potential of the X. It may not be the fastest from the factory, but the handling is out of this world. And since handling is so difficult to improve upon, this is great news, because straight-line acceleration is much easier to deal with. I definitely wouldn't have it the other way around. Would you?
soopah 12-02-2007, 01:03 AM I don't know how many of you have seen the video by now, but here's my impression:
-The X-SST is faster in the straights vs the X-5MT. It is inarguable now.
-Around the track SST loses out slightly to the 5MT as shown in the Tsukuba lap times on full automatic with no driver intervention. What would happen if the driver manually shifted the SST?
-On real curvy tracks the X wins over the IX, as shown in one of Ebisu's circuits. It loses on the straights though like on Tsukuba.
After seeing the dyno graph and watching this vid I'm convinced on the potential of the X. It may not be the fastest from the factory, but the handling is out of this world. And since handling is so difficult to improve upon, this is great news, because straight-line acceleration is much easier to deal with. I definitely wouldn't have it the other way around. Would you?
I think you've analyzed this pretty well. Cornering is when you have a lot of fun driving, all that change in momentum. My old MINI was a blast on a twisty track but lost it in the straights every time.
BUT, I think previous Evo owners will expect both faster straight ahead times and improved cornering, and they will still gripe about it. And that's fine by me.
Evolution, survival of the fittest, I think the Evo has grown up so that it can please a wider range of buyers while still satisfying the performance crowd. If it stayed like the Evo VII, VIII, and IX, with barely a convenience, lots of road noise, spartan interiors, etc., then it would become like the saber tooth tiger, excellent at bringing down the big game, but unable to adapt as mammals grew predominantly smaller and faster. The Evo is a wolf in shark's clothing. Too many analogy's here, Soopah out.
cksdayoff 12-02-2007, 01:05 AM i have a question, why the fck would anyone race the evo x mr in full auto mode. i mean, if they are going to compare the evo x sst vs other makes or other versions then shouldn't they test the sst with super sport mode on, every single time?
nobody is going to race around a track in full auto mode if they have the SST version of the Evo X, so why the heck would they test it any other way.
i guess it is comforting to know that even in full auto mode, the SST version stands up to the competition.
soopah 12-02-2007, 01:17 AM i have a question, why the fck would anyone race the evo x mr in full auto mode. i mean, if they are going to compare the evo x sst vs other makes or other versions then shouldn't they test the sst with super sport mode on, every single time?
nobody is going to race around a track in full auto mode if they have the SST version of the Evo X, so why the heck would they test it any other way.
i guess it is comforting to know that even in full auto mode, the SST version stands up to the competition.
Full auto mode? What do you mean by that? Full auto has three settings, one of which is the super sport (SS) mode. I do not see where it says the settings they used during the track runs. Yes, they could manually shift the SST and compare that as well. Then you would have SST-SS mode track time and SST-manual track time to compare to the 5MT and the rest.
cksdayoff 12-02-2007, 01:21 AM hmmm, i've always thought super sport mode enabled you to manually shift.
soopah 12-02-2007, 01:42 AM As I've understood it in what I've read so far, super sport mode is upshifting automatically at about the red-line and downshifting pretty much at the point you stop WOT, though I'm sure there are rpm points, together with input from all the other electronic systems, that governs when it downshifts.
I believe you can manually shift in any of the automatic modes, correct me if I'm wrong.
DaemonSadi 12-02-2007, 02:09 AM D/ling as we speak!!!! Will comment after I watch! Why so few seeds though? ; ; come on guys!!! start seeding!!!
billy blonco 12-02-2007, 02:21 AM I just watched the vid i thought the battle would be closer than that, the sti passed the sst with no problems and the evo ix was just a regular gsr if it were an mr the gap would be even bigger.
cksdayoff 12-02-2007, 02:21 AM i just finished d/ling, took about 2 hours to download it.
bout to go watch it right now :)
_Chris_ 12-02-2007, 03:13 AM Very interesting track information. It seems on the track, when comparing X and 9, it is a driver's race.
+1
Saotome9 12-02-2007, 04:02 AM i got 2 more hours to go!
ak47m203 12-02-2007, 04:10 AM i got 2 more hours to go!
i just hate this download.
DaemonSadi 12-02-2007, 04:15 AM Mine isn't even moving... this blows!!!!
LowUFO 12-02-2007, 05:22 AM Taking forever. I wish it was on Newsleech instead, dammit.
ak47m203 12-02-2007, 06:04 AM i saw the vidz.... i don't know what to say... good for U.K buyers they can have an FQ 320 or 360 and not that bland 290hp.
if you are 80% download you can already play the vidz.
Saotome9 12-02-2007, 07:25 AM haha well i went to the theater and left this movie downloading, now im back and its done!
Jackygor 12-02-2007, 09:20 AM Launch control seems to be implemented into the SST now...
Observing from the video, the X holds it ground around the corner really well; it loses most of its time in the straights to the STI and evo 9.
I find it really funny how the Skyline 370GT was just randomly put into the race and it got destroyed!
Aptom 12-02-2007, 11:32 AM Damn Torrent.
Can anybody upload this to http://rapidshare.com/ or http://www.megaupload.com//
Thanks in advance.
billy blonco 12-02-2007, 01:32 PM Very interesting track information. It seems on the track, when comparing X and 9, it is a driver's race.
But when you see the vid i wasn't even close, Id say between the X 5spd vs SST it's a drivers race.:popcorn:
DaemonSadi 12-02-2007, 03:39 PM Wow... I'm still d/ling. Comcast sucks... they ruin BitTorrent...
billy blonco 12-02-2007, 04:42 PM some one uploaded it on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akFMs90a8Rw
EVOXCO 12-02-2007, 04:54 PM some one uploaded it on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akFMs90a8Rw
Good vid. I am glad I ordered the 5MT it was faster then the SST but the IX sure do drive away from the X.
soopah 12-02-2007, 05:39 PM That IX LAUNCHED!
07 STI looked good, though it has always lost comparos to the Evo in the past. I think we will see the 08 STI win or tie comparos with the Evo X.'
But in five laps these cars were very close. It was nice to see the Evo 5MT come from the back of the pack. Is there a loser, yeah, the Nissan, and the Evo X, but not by a large margin.
redmachine 12-02-2007, 06:29 PM Id like to see this again but with the sst being shifted manually. I dont think the results would be different though. I also think the new sti would destroy them all axcept the evo 9
soopah 12-02-2007, 06:43 PM STI may not corner as well with the softer suspension set-up, we'll have to wait and see. But more power and torque are nice!
silvreclipse 12-02-2007, 07:54 PM Wow... I'm still d/ling. Comcast sucks... they ruin BitTorrent...
thats why i disconnected the service now i have direct tv.
Kooldino 12-03-2007, 01:15 AM For a 5 lap race, that was pretty close. The IX looked like it beat the X by about 3 seconds.
Shitty that it beat it at all, but lightweight = good on the straights. The IX couldn't shake it in the turns though.
Jackygor 12-03-2007, 01:32 AM For a 5 lap race, that was pretty close. The IX looked like it beat the X by about 3 seconds.
Shitty that it beat it at all, but lightweight = good on the straights. The IX couldn't shake it in the turns though.
+1
definitely, the 9 just destoryed the X in the straights though :(
DaemonSadi 12-03-2007, 02:55 AM Finally!!!!! Woohoo!! good video... I so wish I could understand Japanese though. Bottom line? The X looks hella fun to drive!
cksdayoff 12-03-2007, 03:04 AM the SST supposedly overheated later on in the race and was not shifting correctly.
SST without the overheating problem = better lap times.
Jackygor 12-03-2007, 03:27 AM the SST supposedly overheated later on in the race and was not shifting correctly.
SST without the overheating problem = better lap times.
lets hope that will be fixed when it arrives to N/A
cksdayoff 12-03-2007, 03:31 AM lets hope that will be fixed when it arrives to N/A
agreed, if the SST isn't released in japan yet, then there is a good chance that issue has been dealth and fixed, right? i hope to god they fixed the issue.
the SST supposedly overheated later on in the race and was not shifting correctly.
SST without the overheating problem = better lap times.
I can't understand what the SST driver was saying, but after he got passed by the 5MT he was talking about the SST and then put it in the manual shift gate, inducing limiter bounce for a second and then the SST shifted up for him. Then he put it back in full auto.
We need someone to translate that part to find out if he was dicking around with the transmission because he knew he lost the race at that point or if it actually messed up.
Spoonie 12-05-2007, 02:28 AM Torrents!
They suck. Torrent download speeds are so slow that they remind me of my old 14.4 analog modem (circa 1995). I just started the download, it says that I have 73 hrs (3 days) left for the download to complete. I've never really understood why Torrents have become so popular. The download speeds are ridiculously slow. I'm using verizon fios btw.
Jackygor 12-05-2007, 02:30 AM I can't understand what the SST driver was saying, but after he got passed by the 5MT he was talking about the SST and then put it in the manual shift gate, inducing limiter bounce for a second and then the SST shifted up for him. Then he put it back in full auto.
We need someone to translate that part to find out if he was dicking around with the transmission because he knew he lost the race at that point or if it actually messed up.
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1183
Hope this helps.
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