Does anyone have any problems with their intake from Cobb with any idle problems or check engine light ?

I am planning on getting the AP from Cobb therefore I want to have the correct configuration to make everything work correctly without any issues

please comment !

I need to know this as well...

If you are going with the AP, the Cobb intake is obviously recommended by Cobb itself. However, the AP tunes work with any intake. I'm assuming you aren't talking about full uicp and licp.. Either way, I haven't heard of Cobb giving people idle issues or CELs..especially on the X. I had a Cobb intake on my WRX and it didn't give me any idle or CEL trouble, although it did run like ass..but I was untuned and its a WRX, lol.

If you are going with the AP, the Cobb intake is obviously recommended by Cobb itself. However, the AP tunes work with any intake. I'm assuming you aren't talking about full uicp and licp.. Either way, I haven't heard of Cobb giving people idle issues or CELs..especially on the X. I had a Cobb intake on my WRX and it didn't give me any idle or CEL trouble, although it did run like ass..but I was untuned and its a WRX, lol.
how is their service, is Cobb considered to be a high quality product in the tuner world?

Cobb service is good, yes. And Cobb is very well known in the tuner scene, and they have good quality products. I'm not a fan of their maps for the AP, but their physical products are very good IMO.

If you are going with the AP, the Cobb intake is obviously recommended by Cobb itself. However, the AP tunes work with any intake. I'm assuming you aren't talking about full uicp and licp.. Either way, I haven't heard of Cobb giving people idle issues or CELs..especially on the X. I had a Cobb intake on my WRX and it didn't give me any idle or CEL trouble, although it did run like ass..but I was untuned and its a WRX, lol.
their AP tune does not work with any intake.

but they do have a map that is made to run with their cobb intake already.
cobb stage2 -sf map i believe. u can run it with a different brand intake, but that is a at ur own risk type deal.

they are in the process of making intake maps for other brands. but as of yet, it's either run a stock intake or run the cobb intake.

i stand corrected :)

I dont get it though? why are people so worried about an intake causing huge problems? maybe its because I am use to my corvettes and other american cars but I have never had issues throwing an intake on any vehicle. I highly dought you can blow a motor or anything like that by using another intake. at best I have only seen like +9whp from an intake

And if you get a engine code with a different intake cant you read it and clear it with the AP?

from what i understand, some intakes lean out the car quite a bit so the base maps with the AP will not work well. You would want a pro AP tune probably to fix this?

from what i understand, some intakes lean out the car quite a bit so the base maps with the AP will not work well. You would want a pro AP tune probably to fix this?

they lean it out that much with just a cold air intake? wow the stock intake must be horible? I mean I have looked at my Evo's intake but not that close I guess

I was going to ad in a cold air intake.. some what for performance but mainly just for the awsome sound turbo cars make from a cold air intake but I didnt think it would be this complicated for such a small mod

The stock intake is actually designed very well. Truthfully its a waste of money unless you need that sound or are upgrading to a bigger turbo eventually. I personally love the sound and will be upgrading to a bigger turbo eventually. Generally speaking it leans it out because it is smoother and slightly less restrictive than the stock unit. To get it to really lean out (even though it will still be pig rich) is to get an intake with a larger MAF housing. NO intake will ever lean your X out to the point where it is unsafe. These things are crazy rich from the factory..

I dont get it though? why are people so worried about an intake causing huge problems? maybe its because I am use to my corvettes and other american cars but I have never had issues throwing an intake on any vehicle. I highly dought you can blow a motor or anything like that by using another intake. at best I have only seen like +9whp from an intake

And if you get a engine code with a different intake cant you read it and clear it with the AP?

corvettes and most domestics are Naturally Aspirated cars. Throwing an intake on them will, like you said, net you just a few ponies. The Air/Fuel ratios on an NA car don't NEED to be adjusted since the intake won't provide a substantially higher amount of air..more air yes, but not substantially.

On the other hand, Evos and other Forced Induction cars do require remapping AF values for an intake since compressed air will have a very substantial increase even in a pipe with just a quarter-inch increased diameter. The volume of air squeezed into that the extra space provided by an aftermarket intake is alot. Not only does it have more air, but it also sucks it in faster due to the less restrictive aftermarket filters that come with the intake. This too has to be accounted for when adjusting for the MAF readings.

All this results in double-digit horsepower increases in FI cars with just an intake, if tuned properly. Not getting a proper intake or not tuning it right will cause the car to run like crap. Won't blow an engine, but it will cause a loss in driveability and a possible lean condition (which is BAD). Clearing the engine codes just remove the annoying light...the problem remains.

The stock intake is actually designed very well. Truthfully its a waste of money unless you need that sound or are upgrading to a bigger turbo eventually. I personally love the sound and will be upgrading to a bigger turbo eventually. Generally speaking it leans it out because it is smoother and slightly less restrictive than the stock unit. To get it to really lean out (even though it will still be pig rich) is to get an intake with a larger MAF housing. NO intake will ever lean your X out to the point where it is unsafe. These things are crazy rich from the factory..

and any codes that get thrown you can just take care of them with the AP right? as in take them off?


corvettes and most domestics are Naturally Aspirated cars. Throwing an intake on them will, like you said, net you just a few ponies. The Air/Fuel ratios on an NA car don't NEED to be adjusted since the intake won't provide a substantially higher amount of air..more air yes, but not substantially.

On the other hand, Evos and other Forced Induction cars do require remapping AF values for an intake since compressed air will have a very substantial increase even in a pipe with just a quarter-inch increased diameter. The volume of air squeezed into that the extra space provided by an aftermarket intake is alot. Not only does it have more air, but it also sucks it in faster due to the less restrictive aftermarket filters that come with the intake. This too has to be accounted for when adjusting for the MAF readings.

All this results in double-digit horsepower increases in FI cars with just an intake, if tuned properly. Not getting a proper intake or not tuning it right will cause the car to run like crap. Won't blow an engine, but it will cause a loss in driveability and a possible lean condition (which is BAD). Clearing the engine codes just remove the annoying light...the problem remains.


Well I have built a number of boosted american cars too (GNX, TT vett, Jbodies and worked with the new turbo cobalts) and all of them I could just put on a new intake and feel a nice gain in power and no problem beyond that.. I under stand the part about keeping the same Diameter of tubing which makes perfect sense, but say I just extended it into the fender area and added a cone filter (keeping all the same I.D of tubing as stock) I shouldnt technically see any difference in driveability..

but say I just extended it into the fender area and added a cone filter (keeping all the same I.D of tubing as stock) I shouldnt technically see any difference in driveability..

the differences in AF trim should be minimal in that case, yes. The concern with the Evo community and intakes is that the Evo ECU is notorious for being VERY picky about what it likes and what it hates. The Evo X's ability to be modded without a tune is newfound in this community and a breath of fresh air. I've built a few "hybrid" intake systems for Evo's and Subies wherein everything stays stock except for the top of the airbox being converted to open-element. This found us gains without the driveability or tune issues, as you said. That being said, I don't know of any aftermarket system that doesn't alter the piping diameter and inner flow properties.

the differences in AF trim should be minimal in that case, yes. The concern with the Evo community and intakes is that the Evo ECU is notorious for being VERY picky about what it likes and what it hates. The Evo X's ability to be modded without a tune is newfound in this community and a breath of fresh air. I've built a few "hybrid" intake systems for Evo's and Subies wherein everything stays stock except for the top of the airbox being converted to open-element. This found us gains without the driveability or tune issues, as you said. That being said, I don't know of any aftermarket system that doesn't alter the piping diameter and inner flow properties.


humm well that sucks than..
You hear of any one having sucsess with a Cobb turbo inlet tube?

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3936

I am just trying to figure out how I could just make an intake using factory I.D tubing like I said and bringing it into an area (like the inner fender) to bring in some colder air..

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and any codes that get thrown you can just take care of them with the AP right? as in take them off?





Well I have built a number of boosted american cars too (GNX, TT vett, Jbodies and worked with the new turbo cobalts) and all of them I could just put on a new intake and feel a nice gain in power and no problem beyond that.. I under stand the part about keeping the same Diameter of tubing which makes perfect sense, but say I just extended it into the fender area and added a cone filter (keeping all the same I.D of tubing as stock) I shouldnt technically see any difference in driveability..

colbalts as far as i knew were and still are supercharged

colbalts as far as i knew were and still are supercharged


nope, the new cobalt SS has a turbo no more SC.

I can tell you guys that Cobb map also works with Gruppe M intake, I have also read it works well with AEM intake too.

colbalts as far as i knew were and still are supercharged


The supercharged ones were discontinued and brought back as a 2.0L turbocharged car.. 260hp and 260lbs/tq.. probably the best "performance" car you can buy for under 25K. I threw an intake and exhaust on one and a tune (upped the boost slightly) and it threw down 302whp on a mustang dyno..
:P and I may be an Evo owner but I will be the first to admit it would smoke a Evo in the 1/4mile as well as in the twisties given same the same power for both. As well they are SUPER! easy to tune and mod. the sensors arent as picky and the direct injection works so nice with stepping up the boost, it just sat there and took it like a champ

The supercharged ones were discontinued and brought back as a 2.0L turbocharged car.. 260hp and 260lbs/tq.. probably the best "performance" car you can buy for under 25K. I threw an intake and exhaust on one and a tune (upped the boost slightly) and it threw down 302whp on a mustang dyno..
:P and I may be an Evo owner but I will be the first to admit it would smoke a Evo in the 1/4mile as well as in the twisties given same the same power for both. As well they are SUPER! easy to tune and mod. the sensors arent as picky and the direct injection works so nice with stepping up the boost, it just sat there and took it like a champ

Smoke an evo in the twistes?????? What are you smoking plz let me know so I can get some of it!!!! DUde there is no way it would take an evo in a line on street tires. FWD+300whp= no traction. Don't forget about how much torque steer u get either!!

Smoke an evo in the twistes?????? What are you smoking plz let me know so I can get some of it!!!! DUde there is no way it would take an evo in a line on street tires. FWD+300whp= no traction. Don't forget about how much torque steer u get either!!

+1 theres absolutely no way unless he is a God driving

:P and I may be an Evo owner but I will be the first to admit it would smoke a Evo in the 1/4mile as well as in the twisties given same the same power for both.

There is no way it could even keep up with an Evo in any type of road course or twisties. Not even 1/4 mile! Stop light to stop light I could believe, and thats it.