I am thinking about getting the Ultimate Racing upper intercooler piping. Anyone have one that can say positive/negative things? Also I am going to get the upper, then lower, then down the road front mount after the TBE.

This one is 2.5 inch piping but I have also seen 3 inch, should I be looking to get the bigger diameter or what??? Thanks

in for answers. i thought most of them tapered to 2 inches.

Cobb has a pretty slick system. Check it out.

in for answers. i thought most of them tapered to 2 inches.

Thats what one thing I was thinking... I know some are 2.5in or 3in, but I think they all taper to 2in to fit the inlet/outlet ports on the fmic. I was just curious to if anyone had the Ultimate Racing piping and if they liked the look/fitment/gains if any...

What bout nesis and t1r. They look pretty dope and pretty cheap

What bout nesis and t1r. They look pretty dope and pretty cheap

I think I found the UR one on their website for like 170 for the upper and 195 for the lower...

Check out t1rs.
I think they sell the while set for aroung 300.
I'm curious, what's the benifits or aftermarket vs stock

T1 R unit is the only one with a cast piece to replace the outlet on the turbo. Makes for a smoother transition out of the turbo. Really nice piece! I'm using 2.5 upper and 3 inch lower pipe. Since my IC has 3 inch inlets and outlets makes for a smoother transition up in size.

Who makes a 3" pipe? Don't buy that one. Even though this principle applies more to n/a cars, anything greater than 2.5" will result in pressure drops, decreased flow velocity, and add greater air volume to your intake all of which hurt response.

If our stock turbo outputs 500cfm, air gets pushed in a 3" pipe at a max velocity of 115mph at .15 mach, well below the .4 mach threshold of turbulent flow but it's also very slow and inefficient.

If the same 500cfm was pushed through 2.25" piping it would result in an increase in velocity to 205mph at .26 mach, which is also well below when air becomes turbulent but much efficient, resulting in faster response and instant power.

I'd like to know exactly how big in diameter our stock latex UICP is, as well as the size of the turbo outlet if anyone knows.

^woah... make this guy the turbo pipe mod too lol... but im running the Speedcircuit one and im very happy w/ the results... makes for a faster spool by like 200rpms... and pulls harder to redline :)

Wow as confusing that sounds it makes alot of sense... I think I am going with 2.5 inch piping... If I just got the upper and lower and the fmic later will the upper/lower Ultimate Racing piping fit the stock fmic for now until I get the front mount??

why do you want to purchase pipes now the stock licp is sufficient until you start making high horsepower, you wont see much gains from the pipes so why not buy something that will give you gains like an intake

why do you want to purchase pipes now the stock licp is sufficient until you start making high horsepower, you wont see much gains from the pipes so why not buy something that will give you gains like an intake

i heard you will see a difference with the uicp but not so much with the licp.

Intakes are only good for a bolt-on car with no tune. As soon as you start tuning most of the bolt-on mods people keep talking about actually becomes a detriment to performance.

So you need to figure out exactly what your goal is with the car.. are you going to tune it? Or are you just going to run it with a bunch of bolt-ons?

I want to get the uicp at least. I have an intake and hopefully will have the perrin tbe soon. I want to get a tune after that but I am not sure exactly what to do. I am not sure about the whole tuning process, I have been trying to do some research on that. I know a place down the street that does basically all sti's, evo's and supra's so after those bolt ons are done I will take it to them to get it tuned.

why do you want to purchase pipes now the stock licp is sufficient until you start making high horsepower, you wont see much gains from the pipes so why not buy something that will give you gains like an intake

sometimes its not always about gains, sometimes its personal preference, for instance in my case, i dont mind if it makes 89034 hp or .5 hp, i like the fact my car runs smooth all the way to red line. but like i said, its all personal preference.

oh and to the OP, on their site (http://www.ultimate-racing.com), i think they are offering a coupler that tappers from 3" to 2", so their IC pipes fit the stock FMIC. so in lieu of things, if/when you get a larger FMIC you can just swap the couplers. Or at least thats what i have learned.

Please anyone correct me if im wrong!!!

T1 R unit is the only one with a cast piece to replace the outlet on the turbo.

The HKS intercooler pipe kit for the X also includes an outlet replacement piece.

would it be benificial to thermal coat the uicp?

would it be benificial to thermal coat the uicp?

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I would take that as a "Nobody knows."

Who makes a 3" pipe? Don't buy that one. Even though this principle applies more to n/a cars, anything greater than 2.5" will result in pressure drops, decreased flow velocity, and add greater air volume to your intake all of which hurt response.

If our stock turbo outputs 500cfm, air gets pushed in a 3" pipe at a max velocity of 115mph at .15 mach, well below the .4 mach threshold of turbulent flow but it's also very slow and inefficient.

If the same 500cfm was pushed through 2.25" piping it would result in an increase in velocity to 205mph at .26 mach, which is also well below when air becomes turbulent but much efficient, resulting in faster response and instant power.

I'd like to know exactly how big in diameter our stock latex UICP is, as well as the size of the turbo outlet if anyone knows.

The stock turbo outlet diameter is 1.75"/ So are you saying 2.5" all around would be better than having 2.5" upper and 3" lower? i am going to add the FMIC too... wat kinda gains do u think ill be looking at with all this before and after my tune.

Who makes a 3" pipe? Don't buy that one. Even though this principle applies more to n/a cars, anything greater than 2.5" will result in pressure drops, decreased flow velocity, and add greater air volume to your intake all of which hurt response.

If our stock turbo outputs 500cfm, air gets pushed in a 3" pipe at a max velocity of 115mph at .15 mach, well below the .4 mach threshold of turbulent flow but it's also very slow and inefficient.

If the same 500cfm was pushed through 2.25" piping it would result in an increase in velocity to 205mph at .26 mach, which is also well below when air becomes turbulent but much efficient, resulting in faster response and instant power.

He's absolutely right on this.


would it be benificial to thermal coat the uicp?

There needs to be some testing done on this. The surface temp of the pipe itself needs to be checked with/without the coating, as well as the intake air temps at hot pipe side of ic during track conditions to make any info on this valid. Maybe someone will do it eventually. Won't be me though. The only real issues I could see is with coating, air temps can't be dissipated a little into the pipe, and w/o coating heat soak could occur. Once again, reason for the testing.