: Motor Trend: Evo X vs. Evo IX GSR/MR


mikeyb
09-26-2007, 06:29 PM
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The string of bright orange cones up ahead signals a fast-approaching uphill right-hander that terminates with a bit of uneven pavement. No paddle shifters needed; a tap of the brakes elicits a throttle-blipped downshift as I turn the wheel and round the corner, tires singing and bobbing, but somehow tracking straight. Up next is a fast left-right-left; the last tricky decreasing radius turn that's been frustrating all morning.

Once again I find myself too fast, out of shape, and on the wrong line, my front tires howling as they understeer toward potential disaster. But in the split second between realization and frantic corrective action, a faint push at the outside rear wheel silences the howl, and we tuck back in line as the corner exit magically appears. Now I'm positive there are ghosts in this machine, computer-driven spirits that whisper quickly and quietly to each other before conjuring up just this sort of electromechanical wizardry.


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For the sake of simplicity, the all-new 2008 Lancer Evolution's Super All-Wheel Control (S-AWC) system should be regarded as the creation of a divine being, for who among us can question the intent of a devilishly complicated system that utilizes multiple clutches and limited-slip differentials, well over a dozen varied sensors, and four-acronym-driven subsystems: Active Center Differential (ACD), Active Yaw Control (AYC), Active Stability Control (ASC), and Sport-Antilock Braking System (S-ABS)? I certainly cannot; even after sitting through a detailed Powerpoint presentation, complete with colored animation, I can barely explain how it works.

But here goes: S-AWC is essentially a complex torque-distribution system composed of electronically controlled hydraulic clutches and mechanical differentials that split torque from front-to-rear (via ACD) and side to side (via AYC for the rear wheels and a helical differential for the fronts). To further control vehicle behavior, S-AWC employs a stability- and traction-control system that regulates engine power (ASC) and braking force (ASC and S-ABS) at each wheel. Using data collected by numerous sensors, including but not limited to steering angle, throttle position, individual wheel speed, brake pressure at each wheel, as well as longitudinal and lateral acceleration, the S-AWC system's computerized controller determines the best way to assist the driver and coordinates efforts via a separate closed area network (CAN). There's a lot more to it than that, but I haven't even mentioned the fancy transmission yet.

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Found only on 2008 Lancer Evolution MRs, Mitsubishi's Evo's all new six-speed Twin-Clutch Sportronic Shift Transmission (TC-SST) is eerily similar to the VW/Audi's DSG/S-tronic dual clutch system-essentially a manual transmission that can select two gears at a time. One gear is engaged by one of two wet multiplate clutches, while the next is preselected, awaiting engagement by the second clutch. Swapping between clutches changes gears, which can be done with nearly no lag: Only a fraction of a second is needed for blipping the e-throttle to sync engine and transmission speeds.

TC-SST is a true manual, with gear changes possible via the console-mounted shifter, or magnesium paddle shifters. Normal and Sport modes are available as well: Normal does a spot-on impression of a gas-sipping auto while Sport is suitable for situations when higher shift points, quick gear changes, and engine braking are desired. Manual and automatic shifts in Normal and Sport mode are exactly as you'd expect: comfortably slow in the former, suitably brisk in the latter-though perhaps a hair slower than the S-mode of VW/Audi's dual clutch system. Toggling between the two modes is easily achieved by a switch on the console and can be done at any time.

But there's a third mode called Super-Sport, and it requires stopping and holding the drive mode switch back for three seconds-just enough time for thoughtful introspection and a short prayer that Mitsubishi leave it alone (the TC-SST-equipped Evo MR I drove was a 95-percent-complete prototype). Why? Because this mode is so nasty good it's the one you'll want for track days or simply scaring the bejesus out of the in-laws. Whether manual tabbed or left in auto, S-sport gear changes are brutally quick with the kind of shift violence seen only in Italian exotics. Revs can be held deep in every gear and if you back off before the upshift, you're rewarded with a kick in the rear and a sonorous transmission whine. For those who've never caned a high-performance manual, S-Sport will be a neck-snapping, eye-opening experience.

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Clearly S-AWC and TC-SST are the buzz of the new Evo, but Mitsubishi should be lauded for not forgetting about its core, and I mean hard-core, fan base. Evo-heads nationwide should rejoice over the GSR's all-new, heavy-duty five-speed manual. Even though TC-SST shifts quicker and is more liveable in everyday circumstances, tuning a complicated dual-clutch transmission presents major headaches.

In fact, with a stout five-speed in play, the Evo's limiting factor may be the new 4B11 T/C engine. Though it's of the same general design (intercooled, turbocharged, two liters) the engine is significantly different from the legendary 4G63 it replaces. The 4B11 T/C's semi-closed block is cast from aluminum rather than iron, which reduces overall engine weight by 27.5 pounds, despite the addition of an all-aluminum head with MIVEC variable valve timing on the intake and exhaust cams.

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The new engine makes more power, too, an estimated 295 horses at 6500 rpm and 300 pound-feet at 4400, though truth be told, the old Evo is probably a hair faster. The TC-SST prototype we drove limits output at launch, making the five-speed the one to have for drag racing (but even that's held back by a 5500-rpm limiter in first to preserve the transmission. Despite the use of aluminum for the hood, roof, front fenders, and front bumper beam, the new Evo is about 100 pounds heavier than the old one.

You don't feel this weight around the corners, though, which is a credit to Evo's stiff chassis and excellent suspension. Based on the recently released Lancer platform that Mitsubishi claims exhibits over 50-percent-greater torsional and bending rigidity, the 2008 Evo has additional reinforcements to the front-suspension cross member and rear unit body. Suspension geometry is revised as well, though the new Evo retains the same basic front MacPherson struts with inverted dampers and rear multilink layout. And, like the previous Evo, many key suspension pieces, including upper and trailing arms, are forged from aluminum for unsprung weight savings.

mikeyb
09-26-2007, 06:29 PM
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When the Evo goes on sale in January of next year, U.S. buyers will get the choice of two Evolutions, GSR and MR. Key differences in the MR, aside from the TC-SST, include Bilstein dampers, Eibach coil springs, and 8.5x18-inch BBS forged alloys. GSRs get 8.0x18 cast-alloy Enkeis, while the wheels come shod in 245/40 series asymmetric Advan tires. Both versions also use Brembo brakes-piston in the front and two-piston in the rear-although the MR gets lighter-weight two-piece front brake rotors.

Whichever one they choose, Evo buyers will get a car that's only marginally larger than the one it replaces. While the wheelbase has grown by an inch to 104.3 inches, overall length is reduced by only 1.5 inches to 177.0. Overall width has increased by 1.6 inches to 71.3, and front and rear track are now 60.8 inches, an increase of 1.2 inches.

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Mitsubishi claims Evo styling is influenced by sharks and jet fighters, particularly in the wedge profile and heavily vented and ducted front end. Similarities to Audi are brushed aside as merely coincidental, citing global pedestrian crash-safety regulations that mandate a higher hoodline and taller front profile. Mitsu says the large trapezoidal grille (chrome-ringed on the MR) is merely an attempt to break up the space.

Whether you choose to believe the fin and jet explanation or take the similarity as yet another Japan-apes-the-Germans effort, one thing is certain: The new Evolution is much hotter than the model it replaces. Evos VII-IX were based on a vehicle designed more for AARP members than WRC fans and resulted in a disproportionately tall greenhouse and an awkward profile

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Despite a higher beltline, the new Evolution's flared box fenders, sloping hood with functional ducts, and scowling headlights give it a look of sophisticated aggression. Ditto for the interior; excellent Recaro sport seats are retained, although they're updated versions with integrated side airbags. Audi styling surfaces again in amber-lit multifunction display and silver-tone accents. With designs on extending the model toward higher-end customers, gimmicks like the roof-mounted "vortex generators" from the Evo IX are gone. The rear wing stays, however, standard on the MR and optional on the GSR, as a backward-baseball-cap salute to the boy racers.

However you may feel about the level of computer complexity standing between you and the road, you must appreciate Mitsu's ambitions in the latest Evolution. Its cadre of planners and engineers created a car that gamely attempts to determine and assist driver intent. For the most part, it works surprisingly well. It would've been far easier simply to rebrand the Evo as an upmarket sport sedan, then load it to the gills with soul-crushing electronic nannies. But that wouldn't be an Evo true to its lineage, nor would it be much fun to drive. The new Evo is both.

For hard-core fanatics intent on mounting track-day jihads, there's formidable familiarity in the manual-equipped GSR. For those who'd rather TiVo Speed Channel than get up early to watch it live, there's the TC-SST-equipped MR-a mild-mannered city commuter one toggle switch away from a religious experience. Deus ex machina, indeed.

2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
Base price $32,000-$38,000 (est)
Vehicle layout Front engine, AWD, 5-pass, 4-door sedan
Engine 2.0L/295-hp (est)/300-lb-ft (est) turbocharged DOHC 16-valve I-4
Transmissions 5-speed manual; 6-speed auto-clutch manual
Curb weight 3400 lb (mfr)
Wheelbase 104.3 in
Length x width x height 177.0 x 71.3 x 58.3 in
0-60 mph 5.4 sec (MT est)
EPA city/hwy fuel econ 18-21/22-25 mpg (est)
CO2 emissions 0.86-0.99 lb/mile (est)
On sale in U.S. January 2008

Kooldino
09-26-2007, 06:53 PM
Awesome. Sounds like this thing is a blast in the corners. I'm liking that silver, too.

SATimko
09-26-2007, 06:57 PM
That silver is teh hotness.

Wraith
09-26-2007, 10:55 PM
The silver does look hot guys, looks good on most other car types too :)

The above test review sounds fantastic, it really puts this car into a class of it's own even more than before......

With such control capability, this car will take on and handle major advances of power and torque without a care in the World on it's handling and safety prowess :)

I hope the SST can handle some major power hikes, the engine sounds like it's got alot of potential from what I've read....would be a shame if you couldn't ramp up the power on the SST equipped cars....

_Chris_
09-26-2007, 11:07 PM
I hope the SST can handle some major power hikes, the engine sounds like it's got alot of potential from what I've read....would be a shame if you couldn't ramp up the power on the SST equipped cars....

I prefer Graphite Gray. I too am hoping that the aftermarket(performance)support for the SST will be strong.

TheOMan
09-29-2007, 04:42 AM
Okay - this article makes me very very happy. Now - to see what the GTR comes in at... :/

Wraith
10-01-2007, 03:24 AM
Okay - this article makes me very very happy. Now - to see what the GTR comes in at... :/

You mean the new Godzilla - one car that's on my wish list too :)

Don't know about the U.S market, but rumour here in Australia puts it at min.170k, therefore at a guess I'd say min. 70-80k for you guys (just speculation).......don't despair, that's our price for the new Evo X :(

Kooldino
10-02-2007, 09:50 PM
Video link:

http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/112_0709_2008_mitsubishi_evo_x_first_drive/

soopah
10-03-2007, 05:41 AM
Great video! Thanks Dino.

It does look a little high on its shoes. How much do you think it can be dropped?

Kooldino
10-03-2007, 05:43 AM
At LEAST two inches.

soopah
10-03-2007, 06:28 AM
What would that entail, new springs, shocks, how much labour?

cksdayoff
12-08-2007, 01:04 AM
so motor trend takes the Evo X out and let's a pro driving academy chief get behind the wheel...what happens is, well, the guy needed some kleenex afterwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cp13KGEsok

:godance:

Jackygor
12-08-2007, 01:12 AM
nvm what i said!

It is nice how they praised the X so much!

J-sPeEd
12-08-2007, 11:18 PM
lawl at his last statement "doesnt feel like a front wheel drive [oops] front engine car".

DaemonSadi
12-09-2007, 05:00 AM
Caymen for half the price! woohoo!!! lol

Kooldino
12-09-2007, 05:14 AM
Repost...merging threads.

ibn
12-09-2007, 05:50 AM
the more reviews come out and the more pictures surface, this car is getting more and more exciting. i just want to get behind the wheel of one.

cksdayoff
12-09-2007, 11:36 AM
not a fan of blue cars (unless its an STi) but that blue evo x looks really nice.

silvreclipse
12-09-2007, 04:09 PM
not a fan of blue cars (unless its an STi) but that blue evo x looks really nice.

looks too girlish,the silver looks pretty goo but i would prefer the gg of a black whatever name it is.

EVOXCO
12-09-2007, 04:22 PM
So what the hell is up with the fog lights? Every time I see new EVO X pics some have them some don't. They say they are standerd on the US spec but who knows? I wish we knew what the hell the cars are going to have and look like LOL. The GSR base is going to have a lip spoiler but yet ther is no pics out ther of one with it. Man they better have some details on Friday or I am going to just go nuts LOL.