: Mitsu is becoming ridiculous
Poondoggs 12-14-2007, 11:10 PM So I spoke to a local dealer. He states that:
" Mitsu has not released their pricing yet. They have not translated the yen sticker price to US dollars"
Can you read through that BS? This is downright ugly. I wondering if they are trying to predict currency exchange values within the next year. Anyway, looks like no pricing today.
soopah 12-14-2007, 11:32 PM If they just translated the Yen to USD (and to CDN) that would be fine, the USD will likely remain stable or slightly increase in value over the next year. But they don't do that. Each market is evaluated on its own terms. Limeys and Canucks are small markets so let's screw 'em!
Anyway, isn't official pricing supposed to be out today, KMXxBadboy???
TriStateEvo 12-15-2007, 01:11 AM It's like seige warfare. I got the runaround today on the web-meeting we had. I bitched moaned and complained. So they gave me another allotment of 12 Evo X's.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/kmxxbadboy/Maywood/Order2a.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/kmxxbadboy/Maywood/Order2b.jpg
While it's nice to give me more cars, I really wanted pricing too, but they just were saying that they couldn't release it yet. They wouldn't give me an explanation as to why.
Poondoggs 12-15-2007, 01:15 AM Dealer said its on the freaking boat, that's great, what the hell is the price? Am I the only one that's frustrated?
silvreclipse 12-15-2007, 01:21 AM Dealer said its on the freaking boat, that's great, what the hell is the price? Am I the only one that's frustrated?
we all are.may they want subaru to release first then they will.the wait its taking too long but if it goes that far up then i will be buying a gt500kr or ss.
EvoXAddict 12-15-2007, 01:32 AM I've been frustrated for a while now. About 2-3 times a week I think I should get my deposit back and buy a sti... If the subaru dealer near me wasn't so incompetent I would have a deposit down already. All I have to say is that after waiting so long I expect to be rewarded for my patience with a price within my range or under, which probably won't happen. This sh** is so stressful.
zenmaster 12-15-2007, 09:46 AM Isn't everyone? I really would like to know the price right now, but since Mitsu is being uptight about their price, I geuss we'll just have to be patient.
_Chris_ 12-15-2007, 12:32 PM I agree. Mitsu needs to get their shyt together. But its the holidays, I have other shyt to stress about.
LowUFO 12-15-2007, 02:32 PM Bah humbug. Gimme the price already.
Kooldino 12-15-2007, 03:16 PM I went to my local dealer last night to look at colors and such, and they're getting ONE evo, which will be an MR.
Then they proceeded to tell me "to forget paying MSRP for it". Ha!
"Don't worry, I won't be buying it here."
EVOXCO 12-15-2007, 03:23 PM I went to my local dealer last night to look at colors and such, and they're getting ONE evo, which will be an MR.
Then they proceeded to tell me "to forget paying MSRP for it". Ha!
"Don't worry, I won't be buying it here."
Dealers are gay The ones here in Denver are marking them up 10k just because they are AWD. I am not paying the 10k mark up I got the msrp price locked down by putting 10k down.
Meero 12-15-2007, 04:24 PM Does anynoe know why they dont produce larger production and think of selling more of them at a fair price instead of having giant mark up on the few that make it to the dealer. If Mitsubishi wants to make it big and they have a Great product that ppl wanna buy, why not mass produce it. I'M SURE IT CAN OUTSELL THE CAMRY IF THEY PRICE IT RIGHT:tmyk:
Ontologist 12-15-2007, 05:03 PM Yes, its called basic microeconomics - demand pricing. Mitsubishi, as a profit maximizing firm (all businesses are profit maximizing) looks at its target market, the demand curve, consumer perceived utility (utility curves), the price of alternative competitor offerings, the substitution rate, and price elasticity of demand (as the price goes up, how many customers will they lose?).
With all that data, they build a profit curve based on how many cars they think they will sell at each price point versus the cost of production and distribution (including marketing costs) for the volume of cars at that price point (and administrative overheads). The various curves intersect at a sweet spot were the profit margin is largest, and that's the price they will set for the car.
So what's the reason for the delay? Mitsubishi's production capabilities and target volume is to sell 4,000 Evos a month worldwide. According to Mitsubishi's own press releases, as reported in Auto Week, half those cars will be sold into Japan to what Mitsubishi knows to be a dedicated and loyal customer base (i.e., that customer base would never buy a substitution and as its their home market its easy for them to price to this market).
Why the delay for North America? Mainly, they don't have a price for their major substitution (the Subie STI), therefore making it difficult for them to determine how much profit they can gouge out of the American car consumer.
They are in a game of price chicken with Subaru. As in all games of chicken, someone is going to blink first.
Cheers,
HRCboy 12-15-2007, 05:36 PM Why the delay for North America? Mainly, they don't have a price for their major substitution (the Subie STI), therefore making it difficult for them to determine how much profit they can gouge out of the American car consumer.
They are in a game of price chicken with Subaru. As in all games of chicken, someone is going to blink first.
Cheers,
Price of the STI has been release for some time in the US. Just not in Canada even though the STI has landed in Vancouver. Can someone confirm if we can Import the STI to Canada? Cause I have a feeling that Subaru canada will keep the STI MSRP around $48,000. If that is the case I'm going south to order one or wait to see what the EVO is priced at. I hate this waiting game.....
EVOXCO 12-15-2007, 09:15 PM So much for having the price released on 12/14/07. I am starting to think they wont ever price it. My car is going to ship out on 01/18/08 so I hope they have a price by then.
DSMissed 12-15-2007, 11:45 PM I have been talking to a dealer in Colorado, and one in Wyoming.
The guy in Colorado told me base GSR price will be right at $30k, and that the MR will be about $6k more. I have dibs on a GSR there with the technology package, I was told to expect to pay around $34k.
The guy in Wyoming is telling me there will be no price, that they will be selling them to whoever is willing to pay the most...I call BS!!!
TriStateEvo 12-16-2007, 01:25 AM Little off topic, but I won't be around much in the next few days. Was involved in a fatal car accident tonight (I was a passenger) and I'm going to be at home resting up.
- Mike
cksdayoff 12-16-2007, 01:29 AM glad to hear you are ok, michael.
sorry to hear about that though, r.i.p to whoever passed away
TriStateEvo 12-16-2007, 01:45 AM That's the worst part. It was a customer of mine who just picked up his car and we were on our way to a Lancer meet out in PA.
wickedchimp 12-16-2007, 02:12 AM That is terrible. Send our condolences to his family. RIP EVO ENTHUSIAST. Glad you are ok and rest up KMX.
silvreclipse 12-16-2007, 02:20 AM sorry to hear that kmx,send my condolences and prayers to his family
TriStateEvo 12-16-2007, 03:24 AM Thanks, brothers. I know it might sound corny, but please everyone wear your seatbelt at all times. It saved my ass tonight.
silvreclipse 12-16-2007, 03:34 AM Thanks, brothers. I know it might sound corny, but please everyone wear your seatbelt at all times. It saved my ass tonight.
sure thing man its not corny but being safe.this sounds cornier but they are there for a reason,stay well man.
_Chris_ 12-16-2007, 03:51 AM Little off topic, but I won't be around much in the next few days. Was involved in a fatal car accident tonight (I was a passenger) and I'm going to be at home resting up.
- Mike
Sorry to hear that. I hope everything goes well for you.
Meero 12-16-2007, 05:48 AM wow, thats gotta b hard to live thru. that could be anyone of us. it sucks. its a split sec. decision to click it but MKX is right, that saved his ass and lived to tell bout it.......I'm glad the Evo X has 7 Airbags. all that extra weight starts to make some sense now, even if its slower 0-60!
EVOXCO 12-16-2007, 03:30 PM Glad to hear you are going to be ok KMX rest up.
I'm glad the Evo X has 7 Airbags. all that extra weight starts to make some sense now, even if its slower 0-60!
This is the biggest reason I am getting the EVO X is its safe. Last month I saw a drunk driver hit a car at 100mph and roll it 6 times that made me say "damn I need something with more safety and air bags."
soopah 12-16-2007, 10:15 PM Yes, safety is a welcome addition and worth a couple hundred pounds (I paid for extra side airbags in the Escape Hybrid). However, it would have been nice to keep the performance in line with the hp/lb of the IX. And it can be done, look at the UK's FQ series at 330bhp and 360bhp.
EVOXCO 12-16-2007, 10:35 PM Ok Mitsu Subaru released US prices so lets see the EVO X price!!
http://www.subaru.com/common/news/article_details.jsp?file=latest_news_index.xml&articleId=20071116&attrNavItemId=NEWS_LATEST_NEWS
soopah 12-16-2007, 10:39 PM Ok Mitsu Subaru released US prices so lets see the EVO X price!!
http://www.subaru.com/common/news/article_details.jsp?file=latest_news_index.xml&articleId=20071116&attrNavItemId=NEWS_LATEST_NEWS
Over a month ago now!!! Mitsubishi cannot be waiting to see what Subaru STI price is in Canada, can they???
Safety for me is #1. If I could weld a rollcage in the X without stripping the interior and keep the functionality of visors and rear passenger seats believe me, I would.
How much power I can squeeze out the engine in my safety bubble is secondary.
_Chris_ 12-17-2007, 10:37 AM Ok Mitsu Subaru released US prices so lets see the EVO X price!!
http://www.subaru.com/common/news/article_details.jsp?file=latest_news_index.xml&articleId=20071116&attrNavItemId=NEWS_LATEST_NEWS
Wow. Almost at 40K loaded.
Poondoggs 12-17-2007, 03:59 PM I think we are all frustrated. What kills me is GM has already released pricing for their G8. I can get a fully loaded G8 GT for 33K, that's the base model GSR's cost. Granted, two completely different platforms and the GT is rear wheel, but come on Mitsu! Get on with your pricing!
G8GT has about 361 HP, V8. It's in auto only, if it weren't for that I would seriously think about getting one........
it's embrassing to think that a guy with a G8 that will cost less, have leather, can beat you on a 0-60 contest with you having an Evo X.
EVOXCO 12-17-2007, 04:37 PM I think we are all frustrated. What kills me is GM has already released pricing for their G8. I can get a fully loaded G8 GT for 33K, that's the base model GSR's cost. Granted, two completely different platforms and the GT is rear wheel, but come on Mitsu! Get on with your pricing!
G8GT has about 361 HP, V8. It's in auto only, if it weren't for that I would seriously think about getting one........
it's embrassing to think that a guy with a G8 that will cost less, have leather, can beat you on a 0-60 contest with you having an Evo X.
True but it is still a GM!! I wouldn't buy one.
EzeE1o 12-17-2007, 04:41 PM i see the g8 more as a chrysler 300 hemi competitor, not an evo / sti competitor
Poondoggs 12-17-2007, 05:16 PM Yes, it's GM. First, I appreciate all cars and I am a general car enthusiast. I do prefer imports but that is not to say a Dodge Viper or a BMW isn't badass either.
I am venting my frustration because I feel Mitsu is insulting our intelligence. :uzi: What do they gain by holding back pricing? GM is already released the pricing for the G8 and it won't even come until March. Shit, fully loaded it's 33K and it should beat an IS350 no problem. And I can get a GM discount, and it actually does apply to the G8 as well. My Mitsu discount it seems does not:(
billy blonco 12-17-2007, 05:39 PM ^ I dont get it, people say that the dodge caliber srt-4 is a peice of sh*t when it shares the same engine and chassis with the X does that mean the X is a peice of sh*t to? same goes for hyundai to but they were the lead builder on the 4b11 engine but people dont think they should be compared to mitsu.
Any car from an American automaker is a pos. The end.
Poondoggs 12-17-2007, 06:04 PM Any car from an American automaker is a pos. The end.
My opinion has nothing to due with whether or not you like American cars. I just hate how Mitsu is going to business with the Evo X. Everyone, has there own tastes but hell, at least Subaru has released their STI pricing and so has GM with the G8, and that car will not be out till March!!!!Mitsu, wtf????
EVOXCO 12-17-2007, 06:07 PM I think that we are all going nuts waiting for just the damn price.
Kooldino 12-17-2007, 06:18 PM Does anynoe know why they dont produce larger production and think of selling more of them at a fair price instead of having giant mark up on the few that make it to the dealer. If Mitsubishi wants to make it big and they have a Great product that ppl wanna buy, why not mass produce it. I'M SURE IT CAN OUTSELL THE CAMRY IF THEY PRICE IT RIGHT:tmyk:
It will never outsell the Camry, and I wouldn't want it to. I understand your logic though, but they might only be able to turn them out so fast.
They'd sell more Nintendo Wiis if they could make them faster...they just can't.
Kooldino 12-17-2007, 06:22 PM That's the worst part. It was a customer of mine who just picked up his car and we were on our way to a Lancer meet out in PA.
Eek. Was it the guy who imported the X?
EvoXAddict 12-17-2007, 06:27 PM The more they wait the more I investigate other possible options. This weekend I almost convinced myself to get a 135i. If the pricing is released and it's a good price I will stop looking and anticipate my evo. Until that happens I'm going to shop. Get your shit together Mitsu.
Poondoggs 12-17-2007, 06:37 PM I am in no way flaming the dealers or KMX, I think Mitsu corporate is crazy. I think we are all becoming crazy over this. I agree, go shopping, competition will help make the evo X competitive.
As a side note, I am glad KMX is ok, RIP to Lancer Enthusiast. Everyone should wear their seltbelt.
Poondoggs 12-17-2007, 06:39 PM Any car from an American automaker is a pos. The end.
yes, tell that to the G8 drivers that are going to pass you by! LOL, and they paid less! And have leather! And have a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty! LOL:)
Kooldino 12-17-2007, 06:49 PM I think we are all frustrated. What kills me is GM has already released pricing for their G8. I can get a fully loaded G8 GT for 33K, that's the base model GSR's cost. Granted, two completely different platforms and the GT is rear wheel, but come on Mitsu! Get on with your pricing!
G8GT has about 361 HP, V8. It's in auto only, if it weren't for that I would seriously think about getting one........
it's embrassing to think that a guy with a G8 that will cost less, have leather, can beat you on a 0-60 contest with you having an Evo X.
Well, FWIW, domestics have a price advantage because they don't have to pay import fees and such, but at the end of the day, they do that so you're more likely to buy american cars.
Good price for the car though.
Poondoggs 12-17-2007, 06:54 PM Well, FWIW, domestics have a price advantage because they don't have to pay import fees and such, but at the end of the day, they do that so you're more likely to buy american cars.
Good price for the car though.
Ironically, the G8 is being manufactured in Australia. So how import rules go I am not sure. I do know that I can get GM friends and family discount.
EVOXCO 12-17-2007, 07:01 PM The G8 is not bad but the new S-AWD is what I am getting the Evo for. It would take alot of money to make the G8 even close to the Evo in handling.Its not that fast in a straght line in stock form but tell me of one generation Evo that you can't make faster.
Kooldino 12-17-2007, 07:46 PM Yes, it's GM. First, I appreciate all cars and I am a general car enthusiast. I do prefer imports but that is not to say a Dodge Viper or a BMW isn't badass either.
I am venting my frustration because I feel Mitsu is insulting our intelligence. :uzi: What do they gain by holding back pricing?
They hold back pissing us off. It's a big decision...and they want to wring the most money out of us that they can without pricing themselves out of the market.
Kooldino 12-17-2007, 07:56 PM ^ I dont get it, people say that the dodge caliber srt-4 is a peice of sh*t when it shares the same engine and chassis with the X does that mean the X is a peice of sh*t to? same goes for hyundai to but they were the lead builder on the 4b11 engine but people dont think they should be compared to mitsu.
Just because the engine and chassis have similar ROOTS does not make that the same.
Two brothers can have the same "roots" but end up being completely different people.
Hell, the Ford Contour shared the same platform as a Jaguar...and the Mustang is based off of a Mercury Grand Marquis chassis (or something similar to that).
cksdayoff 12-17-2007, 09:10 PM obviously mitsubishi is a piece of shit car company, and they have been dissappointing me for what seems like every week with the news of the evo x and its launch in the u.s
but i'm still buying one, lol.
EvoJim 12-17-2007, 10:07 PM The lack of pricing & release dates is worrisome. Subie has the STi prices, and as I undertsand, cars to deliver 1st hafl of Jan. BMW has prices on 135i and M3 set, as well as release dates. I can't see paying >$45K for an SST with Nav & Aero kit. If the SST is delayed beyond March then Mitsu is going to drive away a lot of customers.
EVOXCO 12-20-2007, 05:50 PM So is there any word about the price? I am getting realy tired of this price game.
Poondoggs 12-20-2007, 07:57 PM Nope, but I am checking tomorrow.......
Apeman 12-26-2007, 02:11 PM No pricing yet?
no pricing yet but you can pre-order one
cksdayoff 12-26-2007, 08:02 PM lol, this shit is funny.
Spoonie 12-26-2007, 09:06 PM The most I'm willing to pay for an EVO x:
$36K MR base
$33K GSR base
If the car accelerated like a ix you could add about $5K. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
Kooldino 12-26-2007, 09:30 PM If the car accelerated like a ix you could add about $5K. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
$5K? That's nuts.
It will probably be able to accelerate the same for under $1K worth of mods.
silvreclipse 12-26-2007, 11:56 PM true plus with 5k will get you more then just acceleration.
EVOXCO 01-04-2008, 04:52 PM Anybody have any idea when or if Mitsubishi is going to release a price?
_Chris_ 01-04-2008, 05:26 PM Anybody have any idea when or if Mitsubishi is going to release a price?
Soon. Mitsu is currently updating their website.
EVOXCO 01-04-2008, 06:35 PM So maybe today wouldn't that be nice.
_Chris_ 01-04-2008, 06:37 PM Monday maybe
silvreclipse 01-04-2008, 06:40 PM apparently not soon enough.
I thought it would be today or tomorrow well let's see......
I'm getting impatient
Jackygor 01-04-2008, 07:05 PM Wonder what is taking them so long? They did mention that they want to be price below STI by around 1-2k, perhaps they are working on that?
EVOXCO 01-04-2008, 07:07 PM I thought it would be today or tomorrow well let's see......
I'm getting impatient
Tell me about it I think I have driven my wife nuts already by bithcing about it LOL.
DirectorSe7en 01-04-2008, 07:15 PM ^lol, Same here.
I mostly just rant away about what I speculate the price will be and what packages and options I'm getting:godance:
.....I can't wait! I'm just imagining not being able to sleep the night before.
Kooldino 01-04-2008, 07:50 PM I mostly just rant away about what I speculate the price will be and what packages and options I'm getting:godance:
:+1:
cksdayoff 01-04-2008, 08:49 PM i think mitsu will knock everyones socks off by announcing an MSRP of $37k for the MR.
takissd 01-05-2008, 12:04 AM +1 ... i am afraid its gonna be 37K ... new to the forum :) well almost, never posted before! Cant wait to get my MR!
Jackygor 01-05-2008, 12:20 AM +1 ... i am afraid its gonna be 37K ... new to the forum :) well almost, never posted before! Cant wait to get my MR!
Welcome to the forum!
What colour are you planning to get? :rock:
EVOXCO 01-06-2008, 03:49 PM Soon. Mitsu is currently updating their website.
Did they finish the website update yet or are they going to drag ther feet a little more LOL.
takissd 01-06-2008, 03:53 PM Welcome to the forum!
What colour are you planning to get? :rock:
hi thanks!
i really like the GG but i have to see it first... else i am gonna go with the Silver!
Can't wait till Mitsubishi releases the prices!:godance:
TriStateEvo 01-06-2008, 04:14 PM Just got back from the corporate offices here in the North East Region. They are keeping mum about everything. The corporate offices, after the renovations, are huge, to say the least. They didn't allow me to take photos inside the building though.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/kmxxbadboy/MMNA/IMAGE_008.jpg
Interesting tid-bit was that I swung by our Nissan dealership and they had gotten the info yesterday on 4 GT-Rs that are in-bound. They were all spoken for by the end of the Saturday business day. One signed contract that came back in noted the selling price of $40k over sticker. Some lucky salesperson at Nissan just made his month.
_Chris_ 01-06-2008, 05:26 PM One signed contract that came back in noted the selling price of $40k over sticker.
$40K!!!! Thats ridiculous!
Kooldino 01-06-2008, 05:58 PM So much for it being half the cost of a 911.
Jackygor 01-06-2008, 06:29 PM So much for it being half the cost of a 911.
hahaha :bowlol:
werd
DSMissed 01-06-2008, 07:03 PM Wow. I think it may end up being a while before I get my X if there are markups like that...
TriStateEvo 01-06-2008, 07:21 PM Hey Kerri,
It wasn't the X that was marked up 40K over sticker. It was my Nissan dealership's GT-R. Sorry about the confusion.
Kooldino 01-06-2008, 07:54 PM Yes, GT-R != GSR.
The dealers on this forum will be selling for MSRP or less, so we're in good shape. :)
redmachine 01-07-2008, 10:34 AM who's selling for less than msrp?
EVOXCO 01-07-2008, 05:56 PM Another Monday and still no price :wtfsign:.
toosteeley 01-07-2008, 10:09 PM Mitsubishi makes-u-bitchy
EVOXCO 01-07-2008, 10:12 PM Mitsubishi makes-u-bitchy
Yes they do LOL good observation.
takissd 01-07-2008, 10:41 PM who's selling for less than msrp?
check the sponsors thread :)
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=46
AKYap 01-07-2008, 11:07 PM who's selling for less than msrp?
I think Huntington Beach Mitsu listed on EvoM that they would be below MSRP. How far below i have no idea, could be $1000, could be $1. Anyone know?
Still No Prices???
God How Much Longer!!!!!
Guess They Want To Make It A Secret For As Long As They Can
TriStateEvo 01-10-2008, 11:01 PM Remember 'Annie'?
"Tomorrow... Tomorrow... I love you, tomorrow... you're only a day away..."
=)
shadywade 01-10-2008, 11:18 PM Remember 'Annie'?
"Tomorrow... Tomorrow... I love you, tomorrow... you're only a day away..."
=)
ok im holding my breath if i F'in die spread my ashs over laguna seca for me
_Chris_ 01-10-2008, 11:58 PM Remember 'Annie'?
"Tomorrow... Tomorrow... I love you, tomorrow... you're only a day away..."
=)
I assume its only for GSRs
shadywade 01-11-2008, 12:07 AM good point^
soopah 01-11-2008, 05:44 AM I think they would release pricing for all trim levels and packages at once. Just because they have delayed one trim level doesn't mean they won't release pricing.
HRCboy 01-11-2008, 05:47 AM My Sources says that the Evo X price will be released in Canada in time for the Montreal Cars Show which I think is Jan 18th.
Jackygor 01-11-2008, 05:50 AM My Sources says that the Evo X price will be released in Canada in time for the Montreal Cars Show which I think is Jan 17th.
I got the same information from my source. The dealership's techs are getting trained as we speak.
zenmaster 01-11-2008, 06:01 AM I assume its only for GSRs
I do hope KMX is right about this. Or else Im going to NJ and gunning him down. :jk:
So once we know the price, when is the GSR coming out in Feb?
soopah 01-11-2008, 06:05 AM Predictions on Canadian pricing? I keep hearing over $40K and usually at least $42-$44K.
Let me make a guess:
08 Evo X GSR MSRP = $41,998 plus $1,245 freight and $250 pdi for a total of $43,493
Comes with a free tube of lube!!! (they are gonna rape you, they just don't want you bleeding on the cloth seats)
NOT
:jk:
NOT
NICE!
Predictions on Canadian pricing? I keep hearing over $40K and usually at least $42-$44K.
Let me make a guess:
08 Evo X GSR MSRP = $41,998 plus $1,245 freight and $250 pdi for a total of $43,493
Comes with a free tube of lube!!! (they are gonna rape you, they just don't want you bleeding on the cloth seats)
NOT
:jk:
NOT
NICE!
Good god I hope not. If an EVO X costs 40 grand I'm buying a BMW.
EVOXCO 01-11-2008, 03:00 PM I do hope KMX is right about this. Or else Im going to NJ and gunning him down. :jk:
So once we know the price, when is the GSR coming out in Feb?
My GSR is going to be in no later then 01/28/08 so late Jan early Feb.
TriStateEvo 01-11-2008, 05:37 PM I guess nobody is going to have to come to NJ to hunt me down now. LoL.
Pricing officially released!
EzeE1o 01-11-2008, 05:39 PM lol..and a bit cheaper than i expected
TriStateEvo 01-11-2008, 05:49 PM Well, I'm glad finally something they told me came to fruition. I was about to go hunt down my rep if the press release didn't come out.
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