If you guys have been following my thread, you'd know that my MR is being used to develop an Upgraded Transmission Cooler and Upgraded clutches. Here is the thread: http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13073

The guys at SSP want to have one more car with an SST to test the transmission cooler on and whoever is willing to do this will get the Cooler at cost and the installation labor free!!!! I need to recruit someone, so first one who is serious, gets the deal.

I would jump on this if it were not such a long ass drive!!

http://www.mapquest.com/mq/5-pK9uJzo4qQP3

annnyyyonee??

Damn that's a good deal there, c'mon people, jump on this!

I would have done it aswell. I am in toronto though :( there are probably thousands of others who can. bump!
How long would it take? 3-4days? Also there probably are hp requirements, probably more than 350whp otherwise the test would be useless.

I would have done it aswell. I am in toronto though :( there are probably thousands of others who can. bump!
How long would it take? 3-4days? Also there probably are hp requirements, probably more than 350whp otherwise the test would be useless.

No, it will only take one day!!!! So I just need someone to drive down there with their car and bummmm around for a day. And no, there are no HP requirments. Stock would be preferred actually.

Wish I could but I'm in Texas....

It's been more than 10 hours, and no one has voluntered yet, how are things on evom?
Even though i'm pretty far, I'm REALLY considering this, since i'll have to get it anyways, however a million other people are lined up for this product, someone go already!
When do you guys need a test car by?

It's been more than 10 hours, and no one has voluntered yet, how are things on evom?
Even though i'm pretty far, I'm REALLY considering this, since i'll have to get it anyways, however a million other people are lined up for this product, someone go already!
When do you guys need a test car by?

You should do it!!! We need one sometime in the second week of may.

What is the cost on the Cooler?

This is a pretty darn good excuse for a road trip imho. Being in canada it would be a bit too far for me :/

This is a pretty darn good excuse for a road trip imho. Being in canada it would be a bit too far for me :/

Yep If I were not 1800 miles away I would take a long weekend and get it done. Does SSP want to do some field work? Spend a weekend in Miami... I got two extra rooms in the house? LOL.

If clutch upgrade is ready at the same time I could probably do one of the last two weekends in May.

I would need pricing details now-ish though to decide.

What does the testing involve?

Why does SSP need another test MR?

i would do it but im in VA :/

If clutch upgrade is ready at the same time I could probably do one of the last two weekends in May.

That is a good idea

Quote: Why does SSP need another test MR?

Usually the manufacturers test their products on at least 2 cars so they have a good idea ofhow their product works.

Here's what you've been waiting for:


SOUTH SIDE PERFORMANCE INTRODUCES WORLD'S FIRST SST UPGRADED CLUTCH PACKS FOR THE EVO X MR AND RALLIART

Sioux Falls, South Dakota (April 17, 2009) – South Side Performance has become a name in the R35 GTR market as the company that makes and supports some of the highest horsepower GTR‘s. With a handful of fist's for the extremely of what some say is one of the world's most advanced sports car under its belt, it has spent more than a fair amount of r and d time with the GR6 twin clutch transmission and this time has allowed the company to find some new ways to beef up some of the weak points that seem to be issues that are not unique to the GTR's dual clutch box, but are shared by nearly every dual clutch transmission on the market today. After many phone calls and hundreds of e-mails, SSP decided to go ahead and start work on their own TC-SST upgrade solution, using what they had learned the GTR.

So after a flood of emails and days of filled voice mail boxes, we would like to officially announce Project Goliath TC-SST. During this project we are co-operating with a few individual SST owners as well as one major staple in the Evo X tuner community to produce a solution that will end the bickering between GSR owners and MR owners over whose car is better. The goal is to use hundreds of hours of development and R and D for the GTR's GR6 to create a wide array of components for the SST transmission in order to increase its ability to support high horsepower applications. SSP has experience with high horsepower AWD cars and knows that clutch packs are going to be a point of weakness once certain power levels are exceeded. So, we are responding to the known limitations of high torque applications for MR owners and have designed a solution to increase the torque holding capacity of the SST as far as we can beginning with a clutch pack set that should well exceed 400 ft lbs of TQ capacity, with an even more capable set of discs to follow soon after.

Specifications:
At SSP we believe that one size rarely fits all and it is because of this that we are offering two different models of clutch packs. The first of these packs is out RT clutch set pack, which is designed to increase the TQ holding capacity of the transmission by a significant margin. This increase in capacity is a result of the new discs' 25% greater gripping force than the stock clutch packs due to an increased surface area. The disc itself is a complex compound of cotton, carbon fiber, synthetic organic fibers, and other materials. These new materials add to the strength of the discs while still retaining the properties that allow it to hold up in the submerged oil environment of the SST's valve body. This technology is tried and tested as it is a compound we spend months of R and D working on for the GR6 Dual Clutch box for the R35 GTR.

The RT discs are meant for customers who want more power than their existing discs will handle, and will handle high horsepower application with a TQ rating of 438 Ft/Lbs of TQ @200 Degrees F. This is a significant factor because the torque capacity of the SST clutch packs are a combination of strength and durability of materials used for the discs themselves and temperature of the transmission oil that the Discs are submerged in.

Not being the type of company to solve only half of the equation and leave the rest to chance, we will also be offering a SST transmission cooler that is essentially a three part solution to keeping temperatures in check. This solution begins with a specially designed deep dish oil pan that allows for 4 Liters of increased trans oil capacity, and continues with the addition of a high volume oil pump that pushes the oil thru a closed loop system which contains a dual fanned bar and plate style cooler placed at the rear of the car in order to get it as far away from the heat source as possible. This is the same basic design methodology that was used on our R35 cooler, but has been customized to improve the weaknesses in the SST cooling abilities from the factory. The cooler will be available as a standalone option for $2,200.00 or as a package with the clutch discs for $3,150.00. This is the first solution for owners who are worried about breaking their clutches and want a comprehensive solution other than buying an entirely new transmission.

This upgrade is extremely delicate in nature, and as such it needs to be performed by the right shop with the right equipment and experience to get the job done correctly. Because of this, it cannot be done at just any transmission shop. As a result, you must bring your SST equipped car to a shop with experience working with the SST, or ship the car or transmission directly to SSP or any of their soon to be released partner shops with facilities to do the upgrade. This modification is only one part of a package solution to allow any SST owner to strengthen their transmission as a whole and allow SST owners to hold the power that their GSR counterparts can and more.




Price and Availability:

This upgrade is available for pre-order for $1,199.00 for the RT Clutch Packs with the first shipments in roughly 30-45 days. Payment of half of the retail price secures you one of the first clutch packs that goes into production so sign up for your pre-order today by submitting your request to:

no offense, but I would like to see a longer testing period before it go to the market. it is still the First Prototype. There is still a lot of unknown problems might pop out and not everybody can drive or ship the car to south dakota whenever there is possible issue pop out.

I would like to see more ppl test and review it first. And more technical information and comparison would be helpful. And also warranty info as well.

Check your pms voodoo.

no offense, but I would like to see a longer testing period before it go to the market. it is still the First Prototype. There is still a lot of unknown problems might pop out and not everybody can drive or ship the car to south dakota whenever there is possible issue pop out.

I would like to see more ppl test and review it first. And more technical information and comparison would be helpful. And also warranty info as well.

Come on TC, you bought a first Gen SST just like me and are knocking a prototype :).

Seriously though, I talked to Kris at SSP earlier today about this and they have their sh!# together on this one. Sounds like a rocking product!

I just might be jumping on the 90...

Come on TC, you bought a first Gen SST just like me and are knocking a prototype :).

Seriously though, I talked to Kris at SSP earlier today about this and they have their sh!# together on this one. Sounds like a rocking product!

I just might be jumping on the 90...

It sounds really good and it SOUNDS good. But SST is from mitsubishi and it relase a lot of information and their design before they release it. And it also come with warranty. I am not familiar with this shop and they just got a car to test a while ago. I doubt there will be enough time for their testing period. If i can have more information on the production process and raw data on the comparison. There might be more side effect in long term. I dont want to be some kid who modify because they want to modify and want to be different than other without knowing if it is really working. I know i am stuburn, this is what i learned when i was working in the Kenworth Truck company as design engineer. They will never accept any prototype with less than one month testing period.

THis is a very important component in the car, the whole car will broke down if anything goes wrong. This is not a intake that u can change it back to stock.

I agree with what you say TCL, I say you should be one of the test person ;)
Actually I am thinking of participating on this one, with my funds in mind and I do plan on tracking it, particularly tracking continously for long periods. In addition, Testing can simply not be done in 1 month, to be honest. As you said, 'long-term effect', which takes...well a long term, so everyone should know that this is the second upgrade they have (1st one is GTR) and the first for the evolution, confirming that they are taking a risk.
And like I said, this would be the 2nd one, since they have already made one for the GTR, we should go on some GTR forums and find out how it's been. This will give us a breif idea.

I agree with what you say TCL, I say you should be one of the test person ;)
Actually I am thinking of participating on this one, with my funds in mind and I do plan on tracking it, particularly tracking continously for long periods. In addition, Testing can simply not be done in 1 month, to be honest. As you said, 'long-term effect', which takes...well a long term, so everyone should know that this is the second upgrade they have (1st one is GTR) and the first for the evolution, confirming that they are taking a risk.
And like I said, this would be the 2nd one, since they have already made one for the GTR, we should go on some GTR forums and find out how it's been. This will give us a breif idea.

You would be the 3rd actually since Voodoo has the whole setup on his car. :)

I agree with the both of you, there is always a possiblity of something going wrong with such a new product.

The way I look at it is that if we are even tracking our car a little bit right now we are risking worse possible damage to the transmission than we would be by taking a risk on a new product like this.

Heat is a killer on the SST and every time you get the "slow down" warning you have gone above 200 temp, cooking the oil and the clutches. It is even worse if you listen to Mitsu and don't change the tran oil to 30K or never (cannot remember what they say in the manual).

It would be really nice to see a direct stock replacement tran cooler with better cooling for DD and light track use. This one from SSP is a beast that might be a little over built for some MR owners, but better safe than sorry.

You would be the 3rd actually since Voodoo has the whole setup on his car. :)

I agree with the both of you, there is always a possiblity of something going wrong with such a new product.

The way I look at it is that if we are even tracking our car a little bit right now we are risking worse possible damage to the transmission than we would be by taking a risk on a new product like this.

Heat is a killer on the SST and every time you get the "slow down" warning you have gone above 200 temp, cooking the oil and the clutches. It is even worse if you listen to Mitsu and don't change the tran oil to 30K or never (cannot remember what they say in the manual).

It would be really nice to see a direct stock replacement tran cooler with better cooling for DD and light track use. This one from SSP is a beast that might be a little over built for some MR owners, but better safe than sorry.

yea...that y i ask if there is any warranty from ssp. coz if we messed up the sst, we can back to stock and mitsubishi will cover(as long as u meet a nice service manager). didnt this forum have a sst owner have 350whp and still running fine with stock sst? I am excited to see how much more horepower it can hold.19 hour drive to south dakota:tumbleweed: is just too far for me.

by the way, is the upgrade clutch use same material as stock sst?

As stated previously, they said its a mix of carbon cotton or something like that? lol. and they commented on how much 'stronger' the material is, therefore the stock material is not the same as the material SSP is using....correct me if i'm wrong.

I am fine with 340-350wtq the stock SST clutches seem to be able to handle, but that amount of tq will eventually roast the stock clutch without proper cooling.

There are plenty of folks out there putting down those kind of numbers with their MRs, but it is only a matter of time (and heat) before they pay the price. Cooling is the key!

I am not sure about the warranty on SSP upgrades for the SST. SSP or Voodoo, any comments on this?

I am fine with 340-350wtq the stock SST clutches seem to be able to handle, but that amount of tq will eventually roast the stock clutch without proper cooling.

There are plenty of folks out there putting down those kind of numbers with their MRs, but it is only a matter of time (and heat) before they pay the price. Cooling is the key!

I am not sure about the warranty on SSP upgrades for the SST. SSP or Voodoo, any comments on this?

wanna go next Tuesday trackday?

wanna go next Tuesday trackday?

I would love to man, but I have work. I may be taking some time off for a drive to SD, so I need to save up my vacation time. :)