: Sst Upgrade Press Release


voodooman79
04-23-2009, 05:12 PM
SOUTH SIDE PERFORMANCE INTRODUCES WORLD'S FIRST SST UPGRADED CLUTCH PACKS FOR THE EVO X MR AND RALLIART

Sioux Falls, South Dakota (April 17, 2009) – South Side Performance has become a name in the R35 GTR market as the company that makes and supports some of the highest horsepower GTR‘s. With a handful of fist's for the extremely of what some say is one of the world's most advanced sports car under its belt, it has spent more than a fair amount of r and d time with the GR6 twin clutch transmission and this time has allowed the company to find some new ways to beef up some of the weak points that seem to be issues that are not unique to the GTR's dual clutch box, but are shared by nearly every dual clutch transmission on the market today. After many phone calls and hundreds of e-mails, SSP decided to go ahead and start work on their own TC-SST upgrade solution, using what they had learned the GTR.

So after a flood of emails and days of filled voice mail boxes, we would like to officially announce Project Goliath TC-SST. During this project we are co-operating with a few individual SST owners as well as one major staple in the Evo X tuner community to produce a solution that will end the bickering between GSR owners and MR owners over whose car is better. The goal is to use hundreds of hours of development and R and D for the GTR's GR6 to create a wide array of components for the SST transmission in order to increase its ability to support high horsepower applications. SSP has experience with high horsepower AWD cars and knows that clutch packs are going to be a point of weakness once certain power levels are exceeded. So, we are responding to the known limitations of high torque applications for MR owners and have designed a solution to increase the torque holding capacity of the SST as far as we can beginning with a clutch pack set that should well exceed 400 ft lbs of TQ capacity, with an even more capable set of discs to follow soon after.

Specifications:
At SSP we believe that one size rarely fits all and it is because of this that we are offering two different models of clutch packs. The first of these packs is out RT clutch set pack, which is designed to increase the TQ holding capacity of the transmission by a significant margin. This increase in capacity is a result of the new discs' 25% greater gripping force than the stock clutch packs due to an increased surface area. The disc itself is a complex compound of cotton, carbon fiber, synthetic organic fibers, and other materials. These new materials add to the strength of the discs while still retaining the properties that allow it to hold up in the submerged oil environment of the SST's valve body. This technology is tried and tested as it is a compound we spend months of R and D working on for the GR6 Dual Clutch box for the R35 GTR.

The RT discs are meant for customers who want more power than their existing discs will handle, and will handle high horsepower application with a TQ rating of 438 Ft/Lbs of TQ @200 Degrees F. This is a significant factor because the torque capacity of the SST clutch packs are a combination of strength and durability of materials used for the discs themselves and temperature of the transmission oil that the Discs are submerged in.

Not being the type of company to solve only half of the equation and leave the rest to chance, we will also be offering a SST transmission cooler that is essentially a three part solution to keeping temperatures in check. This solution begins with a specially designed deep dish oil pan that allows for 4 Liters of increased trans oil capacity, and continues with the addition of a high volume oil pump that pushes the oil thru a closed loop system which contains a dual fanned bar and plate style cooler placed at the rear of the car in order to get it as far away from the heat source as possible. This is the same basic design methodology that was used on our R35 cooler, but has been customized to improve the weaknesses in the SST cooling abilities from the factory. The cooler will be available as a standalone option for $2,200.00 or as a package with the clutch discs for $3,150.00. This is the first solution for owners who are worried about breaking their clutches and want a comprehensive solution other than buying an entirely new transmission.

This upgrade is extremely delicate in nature, and as such it needs to be performed by the right shop with the right equipment and experience to get the job done correctly. Because of this, it cannot be done at just any transmission shop. As a result, you must bring your SST equipped car to a shop with experience working with the SST, or ship the car or transmission directly to SSP or any of their soon to be released partner shops with facilities to do the upgrade. This modification is only one part of a package solution to allow any SST owner to strengthen their transmission as a whole and allow SST owners to hold the power that their GSR counterparts can and more.


Price and Availability:

This upgrade is available for pre-order for $1,199.00 for the RT Clutch Packs with the first shipments in roughly 30-45 days. Payment of half of the retail price secures you one of the first clutch packs that goes into production so sign up for your pre-order today by submitting your request to: These are going to be sold through MAPerformance; a vendor on this forum. chris@maperformance.com


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Iconzx6r
04-23-2009, 05:29 PM
Wicked cool but damn expensive. $3k plus install? Too steep for me. I have a lottery ticket in my wallet though so I'll let ya know...

voodooman79
04-23-2009, 05:39 PM
Wicked cool but damn expensive. $3k plus install? Too steep for me. I have a lottery ticket in my wallet though so I'll let ya know...

MAPerformance will be running a group buy very soon. So you can save there.

Cyp
04-23-2009, 06:25 PM
better to have a solution than no solution!

on2it
04-23-2009, 09:38 PM
better to have a solution than no solution!+1

evox44
04-23-2009, 10:06 PM
Yea, I was not really expecting a price tag of $3050, however this might be a break through in innovations. So the torque capacity is 438ft/lb wheel torque. However with the cooler, it would be more correct? Will SSP accept payments?

Scooter
04-23-2009, 11:01 PM
Hmmm $2,200 was a bit more than expected for an upgraded cooler. Still a solution is better than none.

DVDee
04-25-2009, 02:25 AM
Looks good people pay about that much for Exedy stuff. This upgrade is not for everyone is only for those that want to make big HP. The motto is always been gotta pay to play.

KingLou
04-25-2009, 05:49 AM
With a handful of fist's for the extremely

With a handful of fist's for the extremely........I would follow these people into Mordor. How could you not feel safe?

KiL

boostin20
04-25-2009, 02:30 PM
Good news for the SST owners. R&D is happening relatively fast considering it's only been a little over a year.

Yxd68
04-25-2009, 04:14 PM
R&D is happening relatively fast considering it's only been a little over a year. That would be a little *under* a year.

This is almost end of April and the first EVO MRs hit US shores in middle June, 2008.

myevox_mr
04-25-2009, 11:33 PM
+1

+2:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

TheSin
04-30-2009, 12:21 AM
I'm going to start saving for both the cooler and the clutches, you'll hear back from me, though I'm not sure 400Ft lbs is enough how long for stronger ones?

pcasupreme
04-30-2009, 01:33 AM
i mean, its expensive and all, but alot of MR/sst owners aren't gonna need it unless they have/or are planning on putting alot more mods on there car.. this upgrade is uneeded if your only planning on doing a couple bolt ons... i think im gonna have to wait on this one.. to much money to put down just yet.. and its the starting stages of modding the SST transmission so well see what happens. if its going to be perfect and everything.. haha

99GSeX
04-30-2009, 01:36 AM
I wonder if the MR owners ever thought of Price tag for SST.

TheSin
04-30-2009, 01:38 AM
I did, but I think it's worth it, SSTs OWN :P

TCL
04-30-2009, 05:21 AM
so this is the non-destructible clutch huh:jedi:

pcasupreme
05-01-2009, 12:02 AM
I did, but I think it's worth it, SSTs OWN :P

SSTs are a ridiculously good clutch.. people just dont understand :(
dual clutch??? how are manuel owners suppose to match that :P

Iconzx6r
05-01-2009, 12:09 AM
I'm going to start saving for both the cooler and the clutches, you'll hear back from me, though I'm not sure 400Ft lbs is enough how long for stronger ones?
Agreed. There was talk of higher numbers originally... If I'm shellin out that kinda coin, I wanna be covered for every possible mod I can dream up. And really the 400ish level isn't much use as most can't reach high 300s with normal bolt ons but then if you go big with a turbo, injectors, and pump...you'll be well over that anyway. Moar.

boostsaves
05-01-2009, 12:25 AM
And really the 400ish level isn't much use as most can't reach high 300s with normal bolt ons but then if you go big with a turbo, injectors, and pump...you'll be well over that anyway.

"The RT discs are meant for customers who want more power than their existing discs will handle, and will handle high horsepower application with a TQ rating of 438 Ft/Lbs of TQ @200 Degrees F"

I spoke with kris directly and i don't remember the exact hp number but it was somewhere north of 500HP.

I'm sure 438 ft/lbs of tq is more then you will need lol

For instance AMS just did this

(Start AMS quote)
Completely stock motor from valve cover to oil pan.
AMS Prototype 35R kit
AMS Surge tank setup
Prototype DW 1000 cc injectors
q16 and 93oct mix.
Manual Boost controller
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I had the opportunity to test some larger injectors for the X. So I said, why not, and tossed some race gas in it and cranked the boost controller all the way down. (end ams quote)

With those clutches you would be close to the final spec as long as your tranny fluid stayed at 200Deg. I mean if you were so scared you could always scale your car back a bit I.E. Turn the boost down.

I know dam well most MR owners Aren't going to have a gt35r installed. I mean Honestly a good portion of the Sst owners are just going to need the cooler.

gunzo
05-01-2009, 03:17 AM
With those clutches you would be close to the final spec as long as your tranny fluid stayed at 200Deg. I mean if you were so scared you could always scale your car back a bit I.E. Turn the boost down.

I know dam well most MR owners Aren't going to have a gt35r installed. I mean Honestly a good portion of the Sst owners are just going to need the cooler.

Its going to be tough to keep the fluids at 200degrees F without going with SSP's recommendation .. there's alot of things working against us to keep the fluid temps down ..

You are absolutely right about the cooler though .. that option is probably the most sought after ..

Seriously looking at the prices .. I think the clutchpacks are quite ok .. just look at the manual cars, a twinplate costs north of 1k also ;) ..

But the coolers may be abit too much .. 2.2k for cooler+ fan , oil pan, oil pump .. for the average owner ..

I've done alot of testings myself and have shared my test data with SSP ..I have to agree with SSP on their course of action .. but I would prefer a cheaper option for the coolers .. :(

voodooman79
05-01-2009, 03:25 AM
Its going to be tough to keep the fluids at 200degrees F without going with SSP's recommendation .. there's alot of things working against us to keep the fluid temps down ..

You are absolutely right about the cooler though .. that option is probably the most sought after ..

Seriously looking at the prices .. I think the clutchpacks are quite ok .. just look at the manual cars, a twinplate costs north of 1k also ;) ..

But the coolers may be abit too much .. 2.2k for cooler+ fan , oil pan, oil pump .. for the average owner ..

I've done alot of testings myself and have shared my test data with SSP ..I have to agree with SSP on their course of action .. but I would prefer a cheaper option for the coolers .. :(

Speaking of the cooler, check out the new post:http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13888

TheSin
05-01-2009, 04:01 AM
wow that is nice!! Not sure about the location though, my gravel road is gonna kick the shit out of that, but man is it nice.

voodooman79
05-01-2009, 04:41 AM
wow that is nice!! Not sure about the location though, my gravel road is gonna kick the shit out of that, but man is it nice.

They claim the location is as good as it gets. I can't wait to get you guys some hard data.

TheSin
05-01-2009, 04:58 AM
for gravel? I do 16miles of gravel per day min

Talon_66
05-01-2009, 05:02 AM
for gravel? I do 16miles of gravel per day min
Time to move into the city and out of the boonies:tumbleweed:

TheSin
05-01-2009, 05:07 AM
hehe rally car though thought it could hold up to a little gravel ;)

Talon_66
05-01-2009, 05:13 AM
hehe rally car though thought it could hold up to a little gravel ;)
That's a myth

darmawaa
05-01-2009, 06:02 AM
438 Ft/Lbs at crank or on the wheels?
25% more area = 350 ft/lbs max tq standard SST + 25% = 436 ft/lb at crank.