: Spy Pics SST Cooler


voodooman79
05-01-2009, 03:20 AM
Sooo.... I just got my hands on some pics of the prototype tran cooler for the SST and I must say... it's nothing short of perfection.

http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4301.jpg

http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4302.jpg
http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4303.jpg

http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4304.jpg

http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4305.jpg

http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4306.jpg

http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4307.jpg

http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4308.jpg

gunzo
05-01-2009, 03:36 AM
:tumbleweed:

That means the removal of the stock or similiar type muffler ..

And the position of the cooler hoses meant you have to be careful when reverse parking the car near curbs..

voodooman79
05-01-2009, 04:40 AM
:tumbleweed:

That means the removal of the stock or similiar type muffler ..

And the position of the cooler hoses meant you have to be careful when reverse parking the car near curbs..

not really... they cut a small port of the rear bumper off to get airflow to it. And as for the stock muffler, I don't think anyone who is putting an upgraded cooler on their car would have a stock cat back...

Cyp
05-01-2009, 05:10 AM
Man..cooler all the way at the rear bumper...hmmm. I have to see the finnished product. sounds like allot of work.

gunzo
05-01-2009, 06:46 AM
not really... they cut a small port of the rear bumper off to get airflow to it. And as for the stock muffler, I don't think anyone who is putting an upgraded cooler on their car would have a stock cat back...

You don't need aftermarkets .. and some aftermarkets use the same location/ box type exhaust ..

Whether you overheat or not is not a matter of what exhaust you use ..

its how you use the car .. I run at the track with stock exhaust .. and you get the slowdown caption after only a few laps .. and no I have no intention of going to aftermarket exhaust JUST to use the SST cooler ..

Thanks for the pics anyway .. at least that puts plan B into action .. :D

boostsaves
05-01-2009, 02:17 PM
If this doesn't appeal to you i suggest deleting your fog lights, and getting some sort upgraded stock cooler or fan like Vorshlag did.

http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/333415.aspx

100$ and 3 hours labor is all it took. Granted this is not the end all solution, but it pleases the wallet.

gunzo
05-01-2009, 02:56 PM
If this doesn't appeal to you i suggest deleting your fog lights, and getting some sort upgraded stock cooler or fan like Vorshlag did.

http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/333415.aspx

100$ and 3 hours labor is all it took. Granted this is not the end all solution, but it pleases the wallet.

What they have is peanuts compared to what I have :bowlol:

Like I said .. my testings concur with SSP's .. but I can't justify the price for the cooler .. or the location of the cooler .. I'll research further .. I already have an option in mind .. but I'll have to see if it's feasible ..

Here's my 900cfm coconut compared to the peanut :D been running this setup since quite sometime back .. and its not enough .. there's a few other factors that most people won't know until they've done testings on the SST .. and I'd have to say SSPerformance have done their homework .. and they've been kind enough to share certain info with me ..

PS : Fog lights are an OPTION for us .. no need to go fog deletes ;)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/Car/DSC03365.jpg

voodooman79
05-01-2009, 04:07 PM
...and I'd have to say SSPerformance have done their homework .. and they've been kind enough to share certain info with me ..


Then maybeeee, stop knocking on them? :innocent:

This cooler allows your stock cooler to remain, and allows for an additional 4 quarts of oil! 33% more oil capacity! The temp drop is far beyond anything you could do with the limited size of the stock cooler location.

gumby
05-01-2009, 04:38 PM
Voodooman: don't think Gunzo meant to come off that way. :) Different strokes for different folks, I guess. SSP's oil cooler looks fantastic, but it's price point and location might not work for everyone.

In any case, hats off to SSP for their great work on the SST... and to you for providing your car as the test bed. :thumbup:

ak47m203
05-01-2009, 07:17 PM
http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/4306.jpg

that position sucked so many debris....

Seb@Specialty-X
05-01-2009, 07:26 PM
Are the fans setup to push or pull?

I would imagine the way its setup it needs to be push.

voodooman79
05-01-2009, 11:11 PM
New pics! Look at how clean the fitment is!!!! Directly bolts on, replacing the stock components.
http://grandtanclub.com/Car pics/0501.jpg

http://grandtanclub.com/Car pics/0502.jpg

http://grandtanclub.com/Car pics/0503.jpg

TheSin
05-01-2009, 11:15 PM
okay that I want, can I install it while in the car? and when can I get one? where is the bung for a remote trans temp sensor? Thanks looks amazing, you must be getting super excited too :D

boostsaves
05-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Hmm every time I see new pics it makes that 1400mile drive sweeter and sweeter.

SSP Kris
05-01-2009, 11:59 PM
The fans are dual polarity. You can run them in either direction by just changing the wires around. We suggest running them in the push direction.

SSP Performance

SSP Kris
05-02-2009, 01:12 AM
The cooler is protected on the front side from debris by its shroud and fans. It would be almost impossible for something to go thru the fans to damage the cooling unit.

TheSin
05-02-2009, 01:23 AM
right but the gravel has already broken my belly pan in 2 places (no bottoming out) just gravel spiting, and that is think plastic and it's not in the rear, -40C + gravel = broken plastic.

That and with it sticking out so much on a lowered X, I'd be worried I'd be dragging it. I really like it and don't mind it in the rear, just worried. I'll wait till I see the final pics and maybe a better pic from behind the car once on the ground and stuff.

Amazing work on the parts though!

boostsaves
05-02-2009, 01:54 AM
Any word on any concrete dates on our pending agreement yet kris?

Cyp
05-02-2009, 05:48 AM
more pics of the cars rear with the cooler. I want to see how bad the cooler sticks out. tHanks

gunzo
05-02-2009, 12:03 PM
Then maybeeee, stop knocking on them? :innocent:

This cooler allows your stock cooler to remain, and allows for an additional 4 quarts of oil! 33% more oil capacity! The temp drop is far beyond anything you could do with the limited size of the stock cooler location.

Geez .. stop being jumpy .. there's no knocking ..

What works for the goose may not work for the gander .. The conditions here as such doesn't allow us to run a cooler at the back ..

You probably do not know the amount of tests I have done to understand the gearbox better .. and for your info .. you have NO PROBLEMs running additional 3 quarts in the stock gearbox ..

Lastly, the final picture you posted with the oil pan installed only tells me all the more I can't run that setup .. because it won't clear my LICP ..

Just chill :shades:.. I'm posting my own observations and testings .. and I'll be getting a set (or a few) of the clutchpacks from SSPerformance .. but the limitations that I or probably quite a few of us have meant that we are unable to run the cooler setup ..

Hey, you are the 1st beta tester .. there's bound to be ups and downs in development .. maybe SSPerformance will have more options for us down the line :thumbup: .. thanks to you.. someone has started the ball rolling instead of being a pipedream ..

PS this is the stock clearance .. as you can see very little clearance for aftermarket LICP .. especially if its a straight pipe to the throttle body ..

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/Car/OEclearancetopview-1.jpg

boostin20
05-02-2009, 12:29 PM
That looks like a good quality part. Nice work.

voodooman79
05-03-2009, 01:38 AM
Geez .. stop being jumpy .. there's no knocking ..

What works for the goose may not work for the gander .. The conditions here as such doesn't allow us to run a cooler at the back ..

You probably do not know the amount of tests I have done to understand the gearbox better .. and for your info .. you have NO PROBLEMs running additional 3 quarts in the stock gearbox ..

Lastly, the final picture you posted with the oil pan installed only tells me all the more I can't run that setup .. because it won't clear my LICP ..

Just chill :shades:.. I'm posting my own observations and testings .. and I'll be getting a set (or a few) of the clutchpacks from SSPerformance .. but the limitations that I or probably quite a few of us have meant that we are unable to run the cooler setup ..

Hey, you are the 1st beta tester .. there's bound to be ups and downs in development .. maybe SSPerformance will have more options for us down the line :thumbup: .. thanks to you.. someone has started the ball rolling instead of being a pipedream ..

PS this is the stock clearance .. as you can see very little clearance for aftermarket LICP .. especially if its a straight pipe to the throttle body ..

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/Car/OEclearancetopview-1.jpg

Aftermarket LICP shouldn't be a problem... At least I don't think it will. They were using Ultimate's LICP and the Stock LICP when they designed it. So it maybe a tight squeeze but, It does fit. Are other LICP kits much different than the one Ultimate offers?

Also, I believe a second design for the cooler is in the works, for a different location. I might get in trouble for saying that... :duh:

SSP Kris
05-03-2009, 02:03 AM
We have spent many hours designing this new cooler system. First we designed a larger sump with cooling fins to help extract some of the heat directly coming out of the transmission. This sump does contain a bung hole for a external trans temp gauge.

We wanted utilize the largest possible cooler so that we can apeal to the road coarse crowd. We went for the rear mount because it is easily accessible and this allows for the most fresh air to cool the unit. This has been designed for the track and extreme driving conditions.

To answer questions about stock exhaust: You cannot run the fans because of clearance issues. This system will have more than enough cooling ability to run the unit without the fans. The entire system will allow you to add 4 quarts more fluid to the system.

We are offering as options a external temp gauge and inline oil filter. We currently are designing a second place for another type of cooler. This will be available by mid May. This cooling unit will be for the more street enthusiast and or quarter mile racing.

Please be patient as to these items are being well tested so that they exceed all of your expectations.

If you have any questions please email me at: kris@sspperformance.com

Scooter
05-03-2009, 03:16 AM
I await the second option. So far the work looks top notch...

TheSin
05-03-2009, 03:41 AM
Can we buy and use the pan separately? And it looks like it might cause clearance issues with the LICP specially with aftermarket full hard pipes, has/will this be tested? I really really want the pan like now even, for the cooling, extra size and external temp sensor bung. How long till that piece is avail for purchase is avail on it's own?

voodooman79
05-04-2009, 12:00 AM
Can we buy and use the pan separately? And it looks like it might cause clearance issues with the LICP specially with aftermarket full hard pipes, has/will this be tested? I really really want the pan like now even, for the cooling, extra size and external temp sensor bung. How long till that piece is avail for purchase is avail on it's own?

Kris will need to chime in here! :confused2:

TheSin
05-04-2009, 12:23 AM
yup figured I wouldn't hear till at least monday ;)

boostsaves
05-04-2009, 12:40 AM
Well, pending on if I have an agreement with the company on a possible beta test, we will find out soon enough if there are any fitment issues at all. I have a speed circuit cat back, and a AMS LICP.

joey
05-04-2009, 12:44 AM
that looks like shit IMO. there has to be a better solution

EDIT: let me clarify what i mean by that.... Just the look of it hanging down below the diffuser

TheSin
05-04-2009, 12:48 AM
Well, pending on if I have an agreement with the company on a possible beta test, we will find out soon enough if there are any fitment issues at all. I have a speed circuit cat back, and a AMS LICP.

Nice I'd love to hear specially on the trans pan

gunzo
05-04-2009, 12:00 PM
HKS just came out with a cooler package for the SST too ..

Interesting what 2 companies 1/2 a world apart comes to almost the same design conclusion ;) .. only difference is the placement and size of the cooler

now I'm just waiting patiently for the clutchpacks ..

TheSin
05-04-2009, 01:47 PM
I'm curious to see what HKS did got links or pics?

voodooman79
05-05-2009, 11:54 PM
Just made a vid of the fans at work.... and Good gosh they are powerful!

Video LINKKKKKKK (http://grandtanclub.com/Car%20pics/fandemo.MPG)

Enjoy!

Cyp
05-06-2009, 06:54 AM
nice!!

voodooman79
05-06-2009, 04:06 PM
nice!!

lol, they are pretty ridiculous. In the winter I can just stand behind my car to warm up.

gunzo
05-07-2009, 02:56 PM
I'm curious to see what HKS did got links or pics?

dual cooler concept .. using fan on the OE cooler and an additional SST cooler ..

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/Car/HKSOilCooler.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/Car/Coolerwithfan.jpg

TheSin
05-07-2009, 03:08 PM
much smaller, but I like the location, maybe that setup plus the SSP trans pan might be okay though. :P Thanks for the pics Gunzo

Also I can see the J SPec crash bar, Gunzo can you get a price from a dealer over there for a J Spec crash bar with the tow hook bung in it? I want to purchase one. I'd pay you in advance if you could get me one and ship it to me, you interested? Guess getting a price might be the first step, and maybe I should hi jack this thread, PM me if you can find out, I'd be really grateful.

93HardTopTurbo
05-13-2009, 01:05 AM
dual cooler concept .. using fan on the OE cooler and an additional SST cooler ..

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/Car/HKSOilCooler.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/Car/Coolerwithfan.jpg

Now this I can live with since I'm not sure how often my car will see the track vs. my bike. I'd use this plus the SSP pan for more oil capacity.

Gunzo - got cost on this?

Cheers.

TheSin
05-26-2009, 02:31 AM
Got a quick question about the SSP SST Pan, I know that LICP on the MRs is hard already, do we have a list of one that will work with this setup? Will it have to be custom? Does Ams work? how about Cobb? I'd love it if the cobb worked but I'm not even sure that one works with the factory MR :P Any info here would really help.

evox44
05-26-2009, 03:08 AM
I really love HKS, however I think SSP will win this one...Bigger cooler+2 fans, rather than 2 small coolers/fans etc...I really should not judge so soon until I see some comparison numbers so take it as a prediction.

boostsaves
05-26-2009, 04:04 AM
check my sst temp thread. The numbers are there.

As far as if the licp works the SSP Race deep sump it does. And even if you wanted he does make a slimline version as well.

You need to read my threads tisk tisk!

TheSin
05-26-2009, 01:40 PM
I'd love to try and search for SSP, you get nothing cause the search is too short :\

Now that I have an author I can search better thanks.