: MAP Introduces New Ported Evo X Intake Manifolds!
Maperformance 05-05-2009, 11:49 PM As a follow up to our very successful Evolution 8/9 ported intake manifolds (http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyno-tuning-results/408238-new-record-has-been-set-stock-ecu.html) MAPerformance has made available the Rev2 and Rev3 ported intake manifolds for the Evolution X platform!
Pricing for this service as the same as the Evo 8/9 platforms at just $249.99 for the Rev2 and $649.99 for the Rev3 plus $90 for our advanced ceramic coating package. This pricing assumes that you will supply a core as Evo X intake manifolds are still very hard to come by ;)
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Maperformance 05-05-2009, 11:49 PM Flow Test Results: Rev3
We have a lot of time invested in the research and development of our intake manifold work, and the EVO X platform is no different. {thumbup} We strive to always bring the best solutions to market, and we think we have done exactly that with this manifold work! We started off with an unmodified manifold and flow tested it for our baseline. Then after our porting guru did his thing we had it flow tested again and the results speak for themselves :)
For starters, this manifold appeared to have a very solid design for an OEM intake manifold. Tapered plenum, decent sized runners, radiused runner entries, and fairly uniform runners as well. We did expect to pickup a few CFM from the work but when we went from 1187CFM total to 1267CFM total AND were able to balance the manifold so that 3 runners were exactly the same and the other just 5cfm behind.... we knew we had something good. For reference, our ported Rev3 intake manifold we offer for the Evo 8/9 had less CFM gain overall, and not nearly as balanced runners, but was still good for 40+ whp on a big turbo :cool: Just imagine what this manifold will do once we are able to put some serious CFM through it!
We will be posting more results shortly, but for now here is the flow data:
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Dyno Test Results: Stock Turbo
This test was performed at 24 psi on a mildly modified Evo X equipped with the stock turbocharger. Unfortunately the RPM pickup on our dyno wasn't functioning properly the day of the testing so we were only able to obtain HP numbers as a function of speed. The gains are about what we expected as the OEM manifold is a solid design right out of the box, however, we feel that the changes we have made in this Rev3 version will really start to shine as more air comes into the equation (ie upgraded turbocharger) much like our testing on the Evo 8/9 platform, those results are coming soon :)
It is also important to note that spool up characteristics were not adversely affected by the manifold work. In this particular comparison the dyno pull with the modified intake manifold was started at a higher speed thus the appearance of lag.
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TheSin 05-05-2009, 11:53 PM oh those numbers are looking great, can't wait to see the dyno numbers!
jmayevox 05-05-2009, 11:56 PM Nice part guys let us know when its ready to ship
Talon_66 05-06-2009, 12:03 AM That is fucking awesome!
How much?
Will you have an exchange program, so we dont have to have our cars down and out for week +
Ultimateone 05-06-2009, 12:22 AM Wow great stuff, always fun to have a new car and see all of the mods come out each day
RRdan 05-06-2009, 01:24 AM word :D
Talon_66 05-06-2009, 01:25 AM Any word on porting/boring the stock TB?
TheSin 05-06-2009, 01:26 AM I for one hope I can just buy one once it's done, being in canada it's too long to send yours in wait for customs, get work done, sent back, wait for customs, reinstall. I'm learning this with the CinCity deal. But I know I want one of these :D
voodooman79 05-06-2009, 03:22 AM That is one hawwwwttttt manifold. I can't wait to get one! :innocent:
TheSin 05-06-2009, 03:40 AM hehehe it's your manifold isn't it smart ass ;) Lucky!
voodooman79 05-06-2009, 04:04 AM hehehe it's your manifold isn't it smart ass ;) Lucky!
possssiibbllyyyy..... I'm not sayin annnyyyttthinnngg =P Beautiful work though, huh? MAPerformance really is one heck of an operation.
davidiii 05-06-2009, 04:17 AM woah.....nice stuff!! go MAP!
-Evolved Boost- 05-06-2009, 04:45 AM can't wait to see the resluts!
Boostd4 05-06-2009, 05:00 AM Wow, that is a nice looking piece. Great to see it in stealthy black too! Can't wait to see the dyno results.
Deepseadiver 05-06-2009, 07:28 AM What's the ball park price range? Nice looking, stealthy.
olsookie 05-06-2009, 12:48 PM nice work, can't wait to see some numbers.
Maperformance 05-06-2009, 03:32 PM We will try and get pricing and numbers up for everyone very soon!
Wicked White 05-06-2009, 06:22 PM can you at least say if the pricing is going to be competitive with that of grimmspeeds? not to bag on grimmspeed, but what would you say are some of the main differences between your product and theirs.
meat_EVO 05-06-2009, 07:01 PM looks liek something i am doing.. haha.
meat_EVO 05-06-2009, 07:03 PM can you at least say if the pricing is going to be competitive with that of grimmspeeds? not to bag on grimmspeed, but what would you say are some of the main differences between your product and theirs.
I will answer this, nothing.
they both do a full port and polish, and looks like the same heatcoat as well.
i got mine in today.. looks f-in amazing.
Maperformance 05-06-2009, 10:35 PM I will answer this, nothing.
they both do a full port and polish, and looks like the same heatcoat as well.
i got mine in today.. looks f-in amazing.
I don't want to come off as brash, but you are way off base here sir. We actually cut out a portion of the plenum on the Rev3 so that we have access to the entire runner not just access from the flange side. This type of extensive porting, polishing, AND reshaping is what makes our manifold the absolute best option out there as you can see from the results of our Evolution 8/9 manifold testing found here (http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyno-tuning-results/408238-new-record-has-been-set-stock-ecu.html) :)
Also, we utilize two different advanced ceramic coatings. The exterior is likely a similar thermal coating while our head flange gets a secondary coating that acts very similar to a phenolic spacer preventing heat transfer from the head. I have yet to see the flange coating offered from any of our competitors.
Now don't get me wrong I'm sure the Grimmspeed product will perform very well (we are actually a distributor of their products and can't say enough about the quality), but we have went to great lengths to make this manifold the best option available. We will have some test results from both a stock turbo application as well as an upgraded turbo application very soon :)
TheSin 05-06-2009, 11:10 PM if I was a girl I'd be wet, I now want this without even knowing a price :D
Maperformance 05-06-2009, 11:55 PM Haha sounds good, pricing info added to the first post and dyno results on a stock turbo added to the second!
Talon_66 05-06-2009, 11:58 PM Haha sounds good, pricing info added to the first post and dyno results on a stock turbo added to the second!
I must be blind, I dont see any pricing info.
meat_EVO 05-06-2009, 11:59 PM according to the first post, slightly slower spool? were those identical mod setups?
meat_EVO 05-06-2009, 11:59 PM I must be blind, I dont see any pricing info.
same here.. maybe i missed it.
Maperformance 05-07-2009, 12:02 AM I must be blind, I dont see any pricing info.
Oops sorry forget to edit the first post, fixed!
according to the first post, slightly slower spool? were those identical mod setups?
It is also important to note that spool up characteristics were not adversely affected by the manifold work. In this particular comparison the dyno pull with the modified intake manifold was started at a higher speed thus the appearance of lag.
Yes this was the same car with no additional modifications.
meat_EVO 05-07-2009, 12:06 AM Yes this was the same car with no additional modifications.
and he answers a question with a quote.. owned!
and you should of done the same speed, other like myself will not read everything and think it lost spool. :nerd:
TheSin 05-07-2009, 12:07 AM since it's a core exchange, what can I expect for a turn around on it? no including shipping with will take a month to and from canada ;) But once there until you ship back?
For REV3 + coating, the works lets call it.
Bob@MAP 05-07-2009, 05:23 PM TheSin: Turnaround times are in the 3-4 week range right now due to the time of year, and our development of manifolds in 4-5 different platforms. We are looking into obtaining cores at some point, but we can't promise a core system at this time. This is the best stock manifold available, and trust us when we say it will be well worth any wait. :godance:
meat Evo: I think it's great that you are supporting someone else's product, but you are acting like you know what work and development was put into our manifold and trying to put another product in the same catagory as our soulution. While I agree that our Rev2 portwork would be similar to what you have, this product release for the Rev3 has made signifigant improvments over a stock manifold and we have the flow results to prove it. Speaking of, we have shared our flow results and initial dyno results, do you have anything to share on the same level? Anything to contribute?
We managed to get the runner imbalance down to about 1.6% which means that there is a very even load on the motor (compared to the ~8+% of the unmodified manifold) which will allow for more uniform power per cylinder and avoiding too much imbalance on just one cylinder.
Add to the better balance, the improvements we made in overall airflow (we picked up 80cfm) and you can see that the manifold will be capable of making significantly more power before it becomes a restriction (depends on who you talk to but most say that you can get ~1.7-2.2hp per added CFM).
And if that's still not enough to convince you that the manifold is as good as we said it was, compare the results above to our Evo 8/9 manifold we developed that still had more imbalance, and picked up only 20cfm overall, but was still good for +49whp on the evo that broke the highest HP on the stock ECU. :afro:
I am well versed in airflow theory, fluid dynamics, and thermal dynamics, and have helped develop manifolds for several markets, everything from NA applications such as the Dodge Viper to boosted applications like the SRT-4, Mazdaspeed, DSM, Evo, and Skyline GTR's (yes the new one), markets. So I'm fairly sure that I can hold my own stating that we have the best mani out there ;)
TheSin 05-07-2009, 05:26 PM Thanks for the reply Bob, I know I want Rev3 and will get it, but I'll have to wait for a core, 3-4 weeks is just too long to be down plus the 1-2 weeks shipping back and forth. But I'll find a way ;) thanks again!
Ultimateone 05-07-2009, 05:37 PM Bob has done amazing work with SRT-4's
Bob@MAP 05-07-2009, 06:24 PM Thanks for the reply Bob, I know I want Rev3 and will get it, but I'll have to wait for a core, 3-4 weeks is just too long to be down plus the 1-2 weeks shipping back and forth. But I'll find a way ;) thanks again!
One thing we may be able to do, is get a time scheduled in advance, say 4 weeks out, have you send in your manifold at the 3 week mark, and as soon as we get it it can be ported right away, then sent back.... there are ways to work within your time constraints ;) Just let us know and we will do our best for you!
Bob@MAP 05-07-2009, 06:25 PM Bob has done amazing work with SRT-4's
Thanks for the support!
I have done much with that platform and now that MAP has allowed me to do some great R&D along with the porting that was already top notch, we would like to think we are unbeatable :coffee:
Maperformance 06-20-2009, 08:36 PM We need to get some more of these bad boys into circulation, I can't wait to see the results on a larger turbo setup! Anyone interested in a discount for some before and after testing?
X EVO X 06-20-2009, 08:57 PM This REALLY needs an advanced replacement! Even if we have to front the coast of the manifold new and get it refunded when ours is returned to you. Most people just are not going to take this part off and send it to you and have that much down time.
Crawford did this with g35/350z's with the new Plenum mod back in 03/04. After a year almost everyone on the boards had one LOL
GL and GREAT WORK!!!
TheSin 06-20-2009, 09:04 PM We need to get some more of these bad boys into circulation, I can't wait to see the results on a larger turbo setup! Anyone interested in a discount for some before and after testing?
I'd love to, I want to do this pretty bad, I'm just waiting on TB options, I know the surge tank will help but we need to be able to get more air into it too ;) Plus I assume for testing you'd need us there which isn't really an option for me sadly :\
ryanowarrior 06-20-2009, 09:06 PM do yall guys have any of these intakes in stock, without havin to send ours in...
TheSin 06-20-2009, 09:10 PM haven't a swap program would help for sure, but I think it'll be a bit before they get that going, not lots of spare ones floating around, but I know SteveDaEvo might have one, just has a custom 2.3 build now. Maybe he'd lead it up to get this started and getting some of these out?
X EVO X 06-20-2009, 09:15 PM You would only need a few to get started. Its ok to have a lead time on when the product ships out due to lack of product returning from customers.
TheSin 06-20-2009, 09:18 PM I concur, waiting a week for shipping or so is okay, 3-6 weeks to ship there, do the work, get it coated, ship back, that is an entire canadian summer gone ;)
Hiboost 08-01-2009, 05:10 PM I'm still waiting on some Larger turbo dyno results before sending my spare intake manifold in. I agree that an exchange program would be a very smart move assuming you price anyone that keeps a manifold at what it would cost to get a new one from Mitsubishi.
Excalibur 08-01-2009, 05:15 PM How does this compare to the blitz surge tank?
Domo X 08-01-2009, 05:42 PM can't wait to see the resluts!
Resluts hehe
Methodical4u 11-13-2010, 02:42 AM what sort of power with the stock turbo? Or is there no point to that?
Maperformance 11-15-2010, 06:35 PM You will see about 10-15 hp on the stock turbo. You will see an even larger gain with an after market turbo. I am not sure what is done to your car but this is more than likely a good upgrade for you now and for the future mods I am sure you will end up adding.
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