What do you guys think of this turbo kit? Would you consider it? Price expectations?

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/db/product/files/11003-AM002/11003-AM002.pdf

I am not a fan of how much slower it takes to spool up. Doesn't look like it gets going till over 4k RPM. Im sure it will be top quality though. I would rather cut the peak HP some and have something with a little bit wider curve. That would not be very fun to drive as a daily driver I wouldn't think. Mostly just the track.

I, too, was expecting it to be much more responsive than what is shown on the graph. They will probably upgrade to a 2.3l kit anyways and widen up the throllet body, perhaps that would cut some rpms off the spool

Is this the set-up they had on the video that was floating around here?

The HKS Evo X that was womping on all the competition?

i'd say so...

"GT FULL TURBINE KIT" that HKS CZ200S (CZ4A) recorded 59"495 (radial street tire) at Tsukuba Circuit with it.

hmmm even hks is saying no on the tubular manifolds too

i'd say so...

"GT FULL TURBINE KIT" that HKS CZ200S (CZ4A) recorded 59"495 (radial street tire) at Tsukuba Circuit with it.

Well I couldn't remember if that was a Tsukuba smart guy :P

Yes, I believe they had this turbo kit and a million other things.

They have this on their web site under their new Time Attack EvoX. Im sure this will rail on a track just like video. I would love to at least be a passenger in this car.

I am not a fan of how much slower it takes to spool up. Doesn't look like it gets going till over 4k RPM. Im sure it will be top quality though. I would rather cut the peak HP some and have something with a little bit wider curve. That would not be very fun to drive as a daily driver I wouldn't think. Mostly just the track.

Bingo.

That setup seems lag-tastic. Just look at the power difference at 3000rpm!

I like the external WG though.

The 3076 is about the biggest I'd like to go, and I'm even hesitant to go that big until I see more data.

Yes for the street it might not be worth it. But if you use for car track duty, HKS is nothing but brilliant at making your vehicle and track weapon.

Well I couldn't remember if that was a Tsukuba smart guy :P

:neener:

They need to play with the wheels a little bit. That turbo's too small for that crappy spool time.

i bet it feels badass when it spools. probably puts your nuts up into your stomach

Perhaps HKS should do what Meat_evo did.

Perhaps HKS should do what Meat_evo did.

I would think that they have already ported this turbo to the max, but possibly not. you may be able to free up some spool and gain something. I am sure that with a ported manifold like mine, it would help a great deal.

Pretty funny reading you guys talk down about an pro HKS setup, lol

No one is talking down the turbo kit. I just think it needs to be expanded furthur to 2.3l which they probably will do soon, and think of ways to spool it faster. I need to search more info about the CT230 though (the previously Hipermax III). I don't think anyone can talk down HKS, who seems to be the big kid on the block for evo's.

it's about 300awkw thats alot should do high 10's

Pretty funny reading you guys talk down about an pro HKS setup, lol




Just because HKS makes it doesn't mean its the gospel .... GT series turbos are old news , the future are BorgWarner turbos - just look at all the top people out there -- they all use BorgWarner ( infact I've sen FIRST HAND one thats sponsored by Garrett yet runs custom fitted Schwitzer [BrogWarner ] wheels inside ) ..

Wow...Xtremeboost just convinced me to seriously think about getting their turbo kit from Talon_66.

Xtremeboost isn't joking. On my srt-4, my 3076 had full spool at 3900. I switched to s362 and it spooled at 4300. The GT was ball-bearing, and BW was non-ball bearing. It completely amazed me, and it kept pulling to red line (unlike the 3076 which dropped off at 7800). One day I will find some dyno charts to back this up, but it's not for the x so it's not pressing.

Wow...Xtremeboost just convinced me to seriously think about getting their turbo kit from Talon_66.

if he is using a BW turbo, then its worth it.

Xtremeboost isn't joking. On my srt-4, my 3076 had full spool at 3900. I switched to s362 and it spooled at 4300.

So the BW was laggier?

The GT was ball-bearing, and BW was non-ball bearing. It completely amazed me, and it kept pulling to red line (unlike the 3076 which dropped off at 7800).

What exactly was your redline? If the 3076 dropped of at 7800...that should be WELL past the "redline" on an SRT-4.

So the BW was laggier?

Yes, by 400 rpm which was barely noticeable.


What exactly was your redline? If the 3076 dropped of at 7800...that should be WELL past the "redline" on an SRT-4.

I had aem standalone and set redline at 8000. The head was dcr pro with +1 valves and bc stg 3's. Note: full spool was not at 4300, that's around when it began spooling. I found the dyno sheet. This was 93oct. on 20psi. Second note: With a 2.0 X, I estimate the S256 will most likely see full spool between 4300-4500. Not really sure because I haven't had one on the X, I just know the turbo's habits. Graph below:

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4680&d=1244819041

Btw, sorry to threadjack. Back on topic, I think there are plenty of good options other than HKS's turbos.

Wow...Xtremeboost just convinced me to seriously think about getting their turbo kit from Talon_66.

Get it and install it , then I want you to come on here and write the truth of your findings - good or bad !!! Trust me I am NOT crazy to come on a public forum and make such a statement which you can easily call me out on if I lie to you . I've been using Schwitzer turbos for 12 years now and will use nothing else in my own cars ! When people risk their $500,000 sponsorship to gain that extra edge - trust me theres a good reason for it !!! There will be no other turbo of the same size that will preform like that on - its just that simple !! No-one can over come 30 years of actual real world testing and development . WHats funny to me is that just NOW people are posting in many forums how great these "new" BrogWarner turbos are , I always say - welcome to 12 years ago which is when I began using them !

The time a effort thats gone into the design of their turbos is still untouch by anyone ! Its no secret that BW turbos will make more power on less boost then other turbos of the same size .