Just found out there is an EVO X entered. I believe this is SST too. Can't wait to see how it did.


http://adac.24h-rennen.de/uploads/tx_stinno24hteamdatenbank/89.jpg

Could be interesting. It also could be disastrous for that transmission. I wonder what they have done to it.

wow cool

should be interesting

i cant wait to go to the ring when i get to germany

evo gonna hurt its status even more with them using that sst tranny........unless they have done some serious upgrading


why does everyone use the "luxury" model evo x?

cmon man.... you know that they only use the SST. they never use the GSR

wow. that would be an ultimate experience.

I rather them use the SST to test it out as much as possible. Let these companies put the tranny through hell and see what happens.

evo gonna hurt its status even more with them using that sst tranny........unless they have done some serious upgrading


why does everyone use the "luxury" model evo x?

Don't be JELOUS!!

i bet that car is a monster out there the SST if cooled is a much better transmission than the 5 speed plus its a little faster in the top end.

awesome

i bet that car is a monster out there the SST if cooled is a much better transmission than the 5 speed plus its a little faster in the top end.

If by "much better" you mean that the SST can't handle high horsepower, doesn't launch as hard, is heavier, and has more power loss, then you are absolutely right, it's "better". On a serious note, SST is a nice transmission but to say its "much better" is straight bullshit. Learn your facts.

They should have definitely used a 5 speed GSR to kick some ass out there.

Hi guys...

I don't post much, so please let me know if I'm breaking any rules here ; )

I was at the Nurburgring last month, as our team was running in the VLN, a 4 hour endurance race in which over 120 cars were competing. I was very pleased to see this EVO, in full racing spec.

I do confirm that it did have an SST transmission. Overall the car ran fine, and as far as I knew, had no major complications (our pit was only 2 doors away from theirs ; )

Just thought I'd offer this info and pics...hope you enjoy them.

Bob

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/DSC05182.jpghttp://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/DSC05183.jpghttp://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/DSC05181.jpg

Nice man and good luck

Thanks man...

What is the mod list on this car? Anything done with the SST? All SST owners should keep their fingers crossed, especially the driver. Good luck! SST is finally heading towards being a full-on racer!

Im not sure about the full list of mods, but what I do know is that the race car is a collaboration between TIC Racing and Getrag, who modified the SST transmission on this Evo.

Here is a press release that talks about it.

Happy reading ; )

nice. great to have some insider. :p

Great info, Bob. Thanks for sharing!

any other pics ... ?

thanks for sharing BOb!! how did your team go and what were you running?

You're welcome guys, glad I could shed some light on this issue.

I dont have many other pics of that car, because we were too busy getting our own cars ready, and the rain just didn't stop.

It had an amazing sounding exhaust note, and was backfiring on every gear change, which caused a huge flame...you guys would have loved that ; )

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/DSC05190.jpg

Very cool.

What car was your team running, Bob?

We own and manage the Al Faisal Racing Team. Our cars include:

- Porsche GT3 Supercup
- Chevrolet Lumina Supercar
- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
- Mini Cup Challenge
- Evolution IX Rallycar

On that day, we were competing in the VLN Endurance Race at the Nurburgring, in our Mini Cup car. We finished the day 3rd in class.

Here are some pics... ; )

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/03.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/02.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/01.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/DSC05279.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/04.jpg

Sweet. That has to be a good time.

I must admit, it has its perks ; ))))

:innocent:

If by "much better" you mean that the SST can't handle high horsepower, doesn't launch as hard, is heavier, and has more power loss, then you are absolutely right, it's "better". On a serious note, SST is a nice transmission but to say its "much better" is straight bullshit. Learn your facts.

They should have definitely used a 5 speed GSR to kick some ass out there.

I think you need to check some of your "facts" Sami. The bottom line is that the SST has the edge over the 5-speed on the track. Plus seeing that Getrag is sponsoring them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were using a unit with uprated torque capacity instead of the model that originally came in the Evo X (perhaps the updated model of the tranny that is now being used in the E90 & E92 M3s and will surely make its way into the Evo X soon) with some extra cooling to handle the rigors of a 24 hour race.

BOB!!! you're the man. thanks for the info!

If by "much better" you mean that the SST can't handle high horsepower, doesn't launch as hard, is heavier, and has more power loss, then you are absolutely right, it's "better". On a serious note, SST is a nice transmission but to say its "much better" is straight bullshit. Learn your facts.

They should have definitely used a 5 speed GSR to kick some ass out there.

I'd agree with you that saying "much better" is an opinion and can be argued. However, most of your arguments as to why it isn't "much better" are also debatable.

For instance, let's take the "can't handle high horespower" argument. First, nobody knows what it can and can't handle. Second, If your stating this then you are clearly talking about a modded car. So lets see how much these transmissions can handle after upgraded clutches before we make statements like this. After all, the 5-speed needs an upgraded clutch also to handle any addition of horespower...

The "doesn't launch as hard" is a true factual statement. Can't argue that. But IMO, unless your trying to impress your friends, who cares.

"Is heavier"... What is the weight difference anyway? And is this the weight of the entire SST in comparison to just the 5-speed without the clutch/flywheel assembly? I don't even know if this statement is true. unfortunatelly there is no way to get 2 of the exact same cars, 1 with the SST and the other the 5 speed and see which weighs more. And lastly, would you choose to not upgrade to a more powerfull turbo because it weighs 5-10pounds more? No, I doubt you'd ever even take the weight difference into consideration.

Lastly, "has more power loss" this is also not necessarilly true. Yes there have been some cases where a stock MR and GSR dyno'd on the same dyno result in the MR showing less whp. However there are many factors to take into account. Most obviously, the gear ratio's arn't the same. So a 3rd gear pull in both cars can't be expected to produce the same results.

Anyway, I'd agree that in it's current form I wouldn't call it "much better." I drive a GSR but would still admit that the SST is a better transmission for racing (except drag but who care's about drag). If it proves to be able to handle higher horespower and to never overheat... well then I'd call it "much better."

^^With all the new dual clutches coming out Manuals are going to waste side. GTR, M3, Porsche etc etc etc, all these have some type of launch control and burn it up in a straight line. The MR clutch will be far superior to the Manual very soon.

Thanks guys...I’m just glad I can finally contribute after all this time being here. This forum is really a great source of information, from real-life experience...even though it can sometime get a little hot in here ; )

I'm going to finally come out of my comfort zone, and offer my 2cents about the whole SST issue in discussion here.

When I fell in love with the X, my single most difficult decision was whether to go with the GSR or the MR. Living around race cars all my life, I had adopted a certain bi-polar personality.

On the track, I enjoy stripped-down sports cars, with conventional manual transmissions, that are relatively easy and cheap to maintain. These cars are quick, reliable and satisfyingly efficient.

On the road however, I want something a little more friendly, but that can still quench my thirst for performance. Twin-clutch sports cars today are incredibly performing and terrifyingly quick.

So when choosing your car, I believe it’s really down to the following criteria:
- What is your budget (purchase and maintenance)?
- What are you going to use the car for (daily driver, track…)?
- How much performance do you expect to get out of it?

Its true, the twin-clutch technology is still at its embryonic stage, and needs to prove its effectiveness and reliability on the longer term, especially on highly-tuned sports cars.

But to say that cars with manual transmission are the fastest and most suited to performance racing, is not the complete truth. I’m sure that in the very near future, there will be more than one car with a twin-clutch transmission housed in the racing pits next door to us ; )

Personally, I couldn’t make my mind up about any of them, so I’ve decided to go with the Evo X RS. It’s cheap, stripped down and comes with no frills, allowing me to create a car the way I like it, with no compromise on how much or little performance I want out of it. However, it’s rough, noisy and manual…just what I need to make sure the missus doesn’t even think about driving it ; )

However, it’s rough, noisy and manual…just what I need to make sure the missus doesn’t even think about driving it ; )

QUOTE of the year!

(it's easier for me though, the gf doesn't know how to drive stick. I keep telling her "you need to learn, I'm gonna teach you. But then I never make the effort to actually do it. So she thinks I have no problem with her driving my car, and I don't have to worry about letting her drive it.)

Looooool thanks DDawg...:bowlol:...consider yourself lucky then, at least until she takes you up on that offer.

Anyway, just found some more pics of that Evo, but not taken by me (by a friend called Dirk).

Enjoy :shades:

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/A.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/B.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/C.jpg

great looking car! and just to clarify on the SST thing i own a GSR and i love a manual but on the track if you can make the transmission handle the power the twin clutch is simply faster.

^^ that airborn pic is MONEY!

Would love to see some video of this.

so what's the place of Evo mr? any web site to check.

here is they website:

http://www.tic-racing.de/html/news.html

here is they website:

http://www.tic-racing.de/html/news.html

Now if I could only read German...

Now if I could only read German...

Your puter pawns you...:waiting:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tic-racing.de%2Fhtml%2Fnews.html&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=

I feel that this is the moment of truth, SST vs conventional manual gearbox.

I feel that this is the moment of truth, SST vs conventional manual gearbox.

and what is it? :ohsnap:

is it 3rd then 4th or 1st in it's class. im just confused, im still wanting to know if the sst is upgraded cooling wise etc. if it is stock i can say is wow.

Your puter pawns you...:waiting:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tic-racing.de%2Fhtml%2Fnews.html&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=

I've seen computer translations before... they never work just quite right.

Didn't bob say he was driving a manual?

^^ yeah, but he wasn't driving the X

Dear all,

I am one of the guys, who applicated the SST transmission for mass production and also joined the race team in order to "make the SST running" in a racecar.

First of all, the team is made up of engineers, who are motor sports enthusiastic and mainly already involved in the SST development. With the help of Mitsubishi Japan and a chummy other race team, we build up the vehicle. The purpose of it was to show the potential of the EVO in combination with the SST gearbox. And finally we finished on position 32 out of 180 vehicles.


Let me give some technical details, as far as I can:

The vehicle has been build up from the naked body. Only necessary parts have been assembled. Additional parts for racing like the cell, cooler, pumps, tank... are also equipped. The vehicle build up photo documentation can be seen on our website.

The engine, believe it or not, is nearly mass production like. It has about 300hp with maximum turbo pressure of 1,4 bar and air-restrictor. We made some tests with up to 400hp (app. 500Nm) and the transmission was running quite fine. The only reason for using the 300hp version was, that there was simply no time to create a durable engine SW with more power. Our highest target was up from the beginning of that project, to build up a vehicle, which is capably to survive the 24h race. And with more than 300hp, we had no experiences with on the dynometer for longer than a few hours.

The transmission itself (tatata) is also nearly like mass production. The only hardware change is a little bit shorter 6th gear to increase top speed. Externally equipped is one additional cooler for the trans. With that, the oil temperature during the race never exceeded 102°, so fare away from failing.
By the way: other systems like AYC have had external coolers also.

From software point of view, we made some changes like different shift points, modified interaction with ABS/ESP/AYC and these things. These changes were leading to the fact, that all the drivers drove in auto mode during the race. No one was shifting manually. This is good for a relaxing drive and also good to keep the temperature stable.

If there are more question, please feel free to ask. I hope, I am able to answer them.

By the way: the 7speed DCT from the M3 cannot be used for that vehicle, even if it is from the same company. The engine orientation is different (crossway vs. lengthwise) and the interaction with other modules like engine, ABS, AYC... is completely different in the Evo than in M3.

Greetings!

TICer

dear Ticer, so what was done to make the SST transmission to run smoothly for 24hours?

Hi guys...

Thanks TICer for all this great info. It would have been great to meet you at the races...so many questions to ask ; )

Anyway, I dont have any specific videos of the car, just a clip of all the cars at the rolling start.

You can see the Evo at around 00:06.

Enjoy ; )

http://s617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/chouity/?action=view&current=MOV05273.flv

so what was done to make the SST transmission to run smoothly for 24hours?

what do you mean with running smoother? As I meantioned, the trans itself has not been modified in that point. And even the way, how to controll the clutch and engine is even more hard in the race car.

Anyway, I dont have any specific videos of the car, just a clip of all the cars at the rolling start.

There is one cool video taken onboard out a race 4 weeks ago. The vehicle, which made the video, is driving 2 vehicles behind the evo and you can see one complete lap.

http://www.ring1.de/tv/alle/media/150/

Greetings!

Thanks TICer!! Damn that's awesome you came on here and shared with us.

Thanks for the link to the video also, I'll have to definetly watch that when I get back from work tonight. I'm envious of you getting to work on the car and build it for a race!!

Anyway, welcome to the forum! this thread has turned into one of the most informative and usefull SST threads I've seen.

+1 Great to have you join TICer, excellent info!

So the TC-SST is not as fragile as people thought... Just an additional cooler. It will be interesting to see them up the power and do it again.

Thanks for coming to the forum and sharing.

While the cooling is such a big issue with the factory car,however it is solvable with putting a little fan in?!

I think the Mitsubishi should have that fan from the begin with, if that is the case. And they would save some headaches for themselves...
Sometimes makes me wonder why factory's do such a things..

Anyway, congrats for the car and a race. :)

While the cooling is such a big issue with the factory car,however it is solvable with putting a little fan in?!

I think the Mitsubishi should have that fan from the begin with, if that is the case. And they would save some headaches for themselves...
Sometimes makes me wonder why factory's do such a things..

Anyway, congrats for the car and a race. :)


2 cents:

Money. They establish a price point and build and design the car with goals in mind. Sometimes they have to spare items that are not necessary. in this case, the fan wasnt necessary since the cooler was sufficient for daily, sprited and mild track driving.

Edit: LOL dont realize why i told you that since you're obviously heavily involved in racing and motorsports. But for all others, its a good note.

along with the X, what other cars were in the 24HR Nurburging?

[quote=TICer;168337]what do you mean with running smoother? As I meantioned, the trans itself has not been modified in that point. And even the way, how to controll the clutch and engine is even more hard in the race car.


Ticer, i mean to prevent transmission oil to get over heated. do you install some fans or change to bigger cooler for the transmission?

Trying to figure out where they mounted that transmission cooler....

Dear all,

I am one of the guys, who applicated the SST transmission for mass production and also joined the race team in order to "make the SST running" in a racecar.

First of all, the team is made up of engineers, who are motor sports enthusiastic and mainly already involved in the SST development. With the help of Mitsubishi Japan and a chummy other race team, we build up the vehicle. The purpose of it was to show the potential of the EVO in combination with the SST gearbox. And finally we finished on position 32 out of 180 vehicles.


Let me give some technical details, as far as I can:

The vehicle has been build up from the naked body. Only necessary parts have been assembled. Additional parts for racing like the cell, cooler, pumps, tank... are also equipped. The vehicle build up photo documentation can be seen on our website.

The engine, believe it or not, is nearly mass production like. It has about 300hp with maximum turbo pressure of 1,4 bar and air-restrictor. We made some tests with up to 400hp (app. 500Nm) and the transmission was running quite fine. The only reason for using the 300hp version was, that there was simply no time to create a durable engine SW with more power. Our highest target was up from the beginning of that project, to build up a vehicle, which is capably to survive the 24h race. And with more than 300hp, we had no experiences with on the dynometer for longer than a few hours.

The transmission itself (tatata) is also nearly like mass production. The only hardware change is a little bit shorter 6th gear to increase top speed. Externally equipped is one additional cooler for the trans. With that, the oil temperature during the race never exceeded 102°, so fare away from failing.
By the way: other systems like AYC have had external coolers also.

From software point of view, we made some changes like different shift points, modified interaction with ABS/ESP/AYC and these things. These changes were leading to the fact, that all the drivers drove in auto mode during the race. No one was shifting manually. This is good for a relaxing drive and also good to keep the temperature stable.

If there are more question, please feel free to ask. I hope, I am able to answer them.

By the way: the 7speed DCT from the M3 cannot be used for that vehicle, even if it is from the same company. The engine orientation is different (crossway vs. lengthwise) and the interaction with other modules like engine, ABS, AYC... is completely different in the Evo than in M3.

Greetings!

TICer

Was that 300hp to the wheels?? Where was the additional external transmission cooler mounted...I could not tell? This is great info...thanks!!!

2 cents:

Money. They establish a price point and build and design the car with goals in mind. Sometimes they have to spare items that are not necessary. in this case, the fan wasnt necessary since the cooler was sufficient for daily, sprited and mild track driving.

Edit: LOL dont realize why i told you that since you're obviously heavily involved in racing and motorsports. But for all others, its a good note.

you are right . But with only the fan solution is so cheap vs the the problems they had in the beginning...
Just go back couple months and every where you read the over heating issue with the SST. Every single test stated, If you running over 15 -20 minutes the problem starts with the bone stock car....

So would be like this / little extra money .cooling fan, maybe an extra $100 to spend for the factory each SST /
vs the press etc problems...


that is why i wonder :)

what do you mean with running smoother? As I meantioned, the trans itself has not been modified in that point. And even the way, how to controll the clutch and engine is even more hard in the race car.



There is one cool video taken onboard out a race 4 weeks ago. The vehicle, which made the video, is driving 2 vehicles behind the evo and you can see one complete lap.

http://www.ring1.de/tv/alle/media/150/

Greetings!

Nice video. The evo was very quick on the corners but lacking power on the straights. Hopefully you guys will have more time to test it at a higher hp on the next race. :thumbup:

Great vid.

[quote=TICer;168337]what do you mean with running smoother? As I meantioned, the trans itself has not been modified in that point. And even the way, how to controll the clutch and engine is even more hard in the race car.


Ticer, i mean to prevent transmission oil to get over heated. do you install some fans or change to bigger cooler for the transmission?


ticer, are u there to answer us?whether you have additional cooling fan or mounted on your transmission cooler?thanks for sharing

My business partner and I were at this race... it was awesome! The EVO X was still going at the end, which was cool.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/548570488_WZXyS-S-1.jpg

I took this one through a fence in a medium speed corner:

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/548621837_PCcP9-L.jpg

There was some serious carnage:

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/548613593_p3cWd-L-1.jpg

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/548625609_vpgsi-L.jpg

More pics from this event here: http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/gallery/8362465_W4r4p

[quote=Fair;186696]My business partner and I were at this race... it was awesome! The EVO X was still going at the end, which was cool.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/548570488_WZXyS-S-1.jpg

^^^this can be a nice decals
your there but not the Vorshlag car?

^^^this can be a nice decals
your there but not the Vorshlag car?
Well its a little expensive to fly a car to Germany for this event, but there were plenty of cars there running AST shocks. We were at the event with the AST-UK rep, who was attending to handle any possible customer shock issues during the race. Nobody had any problems so we just drank beer, bar-b-q'ed ate, and watched the race. :D

ticer, are u there to answer us?whether you have additional cooling fan or mounted on your transmission cooler?thanks for sharingHey there,

I am sorry, not to answer your questions immediately. We were busy the last weeks.

As for the cooling of the trans, we added another small cooler, serial to the production cooler. But there is no fan mounted.
There is one supplier in Germany, who offers a cooler package for the Evo SST. This package is similar to our solution. The cooler itself is mounted above the engine cooler.
http://www.defries-motorsport.de/webshop/product_info.php?products_id=3495&osCsid=37928f2d6f8c720457f7a14f624fa4ce

In our application, this is approach is strong enough to keep the temperature stable on the Nürburgring.

Besides the 24h race, we joined a 6h race at the Nürburgring yesterday. The setup was nearly the same than during 24h race and we finished at place 55 overall. We had some bad luck during 2 pit stops because we had to wait at the gas station. During these 2 stops, we lost about 5 minutes.
But finally, we are surprised, how reliable the vehicle is. We do simply don’t have any problems with the vehicle during the races.

I am not sure, if we already do have "fans". But if so, I can tell you that we are thinking about to join the complete German VLN series next year.
And we are thinking about the following modifications of the vehicle.

- Tyre size and suspension setup
We are allowed to drive with 10,5" tyres, which are not yet used. In addition to that, we need a suspension setup, which is not too aggressive to the tyres.
- Engine performance
All the races run almost with mass production engine setup. The rules say, if we modify the engine setup, we are allowed to drive with 1,4 bar turbo pressure and air restrictor. We will see, how much power is possible with this restriction.
- Weight reduction
The vehicle weight is at about 1500kg at the moment. Of course, we reduced the weight, but with additional tank, cage and fire extinguishing system we ended at that weight. We have to see, how we can reduce it. On the other hand, this rally vehicle is very stable and excuses contacts with other vehicle or driving over the curbs.

So, finally I am sorry not to answer immediately. Let me know, if you have still questions!

TICer

Hey there,

I am sorry, not to answer your questions immediately. We were busy the last weeks.

As for the cooling of the trans, we added another small cooler, serial to the production cooler. But there is no fan mounted.
There is one supplier in Germany, who offers a cooler package for the Evo SST. This package is similar to our solution. The cooler itself is mounted above the engine cooler.
http://www.defries-motorsport.de/webshop/product_info.php?products_id=3495&osCsid=37928f2d6f8c720457f7a14f624fa4ce

In our application, this is approach is strong enough to keep the temperature stable on the Nürburgring.

Besides the 24h race, we joined a 6h race at the Nürburgring yesterday. The setup was nearly the same than during 24h race and we finished at place 55 overall. We had some bad luck during 2 pit stops because we had to wait at the gas station. During these 2 stops, we lost about 5 minutes.
But finally, we are surprised, how reliable the vehicle is. We do simply don’t have any problems with the vehicle during the races.

I am not sure, if we already do have "fans". But if so, I can tell you that we are thinking about to join the complete German VLN series next year.
And we are thinking about the following modifications of the vehicle.

- Tyre size and suspension setup
We are allowed to drive with 10,5" tyres, which are not yet used. In addition to that, we need a suspension setup, which is not too aggressive to the tyres.
- Engine performance
All the races run almost with mass production engine setup. The rules say, if we modify the engine setup, we are allowed to drive with 1,4 bar turbo pressure and air restrictor. We will see, how much power is possible with this restriction.
- Weight reduction
The vehicle weight is at about 1500kg at the moment. Of course, we reduced the weight, but with additional tank, cage and fire extinguishing system we ended at that weight. We have to see, how we can reduce it. On the other hand, this rally vehicle is very stable and excuses contacts with other vehicle or driving over the curbs.

So, finally I am sorry not to answer immediately. Let me know, if you have still questions!

TICer

haha, thanks TICer, your info is valuable to us.
Would you mind to share with me what is the boost pressure and do you use left-foot brake?
thanks...

Hey superlemonevo (http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/member.php?u=2870),

the boost pressure of original engine setup shows peaks upto 1.6 bar. If we modify the setup, we have to take care, not to get over 1,4 bar.
This is given in metric units. do you need another conversion?

We do have one driver, who uses sometimes the left foot brake during wet conditions. In generall, the drivers take care of a clean driving style and do not use brake and pedal at the same time. Don`t forget, it is a cirrcuit.

TICer

Hey superlemonevo (http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/member.php?u=2870),

the boost pressure of original engine setup shows peaks upto 1.6 bar. If we modify the setup, we have to take care, not to get over 1,4 bar.
This is given in metric units. do you need another conversion?

We do have one driver, who uses sometimes the left foot brake during wet conditions. In generall, the drivers take care of a clean driving style and do not use brake and pedal at the same time. Don`t forget, it is a cirrcuit.

TICer

ha, i m using "bar" on my boost controller. Thanks. So you set at 1.4bar at the 24hours race? and how much of Tranny oil temp you read on the track? Normally my friend set lower bar like 1.2bar on the circuit. Well, this is my first turbo-charged car, haven't experience it on the track yet.

That BMW is a mess LOL
love the evo tho :D

Look what I found today-->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y6kwzqmw3E

Regards to all Evo Fans

Modify

Note to self....that night time stuff looks crazy...do not try it.

Das skur ree!

he passed heaps! thanks for sharing Modify! and welcome to the forums.

TICer, just wondering what fluid you ran in the SST? Was it the OEM Mitsu or something else?

This is the best thread currently on this entire forum and I am enjoying it thoroughly.

I absolutely love that mini.

Das skur ree!

lol!

night time racing very scary.

Sexy. Better have a beefed up SST!

TICer, just wondering what fluid you ran in the SST? Was it the OEM Mitsu or something else?

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22702&page=2 :rock: i wanna shorter 6th :drive:

The paddles shift with the steering wheel column

I'm curious as to what kind of lap times you were running in the evo. Care to share?

Well I use Add-on all the time and it works fine, I have even changed it to F1 for the F1 tracks I have and they show up in an F1 section.

Are you saying that the track shows up in Category=GTR Evo, but not Add-on or its not showing at all?

Hey there,

I am sorry, not to answer your questions immediately. We were busy the last weeks.

As for the cooling of the trans, we added another small cooler, serial to the production cooler. But there is no fan mounted.
There is one supplier in Germany, who offers a cooler package for the Evo SST. This package is similar to our solution. The cooler itself is mounted above the engine cooler.
http://www.defries-motorsport.de/webshop/product_info.php?products_id=3495&osCsid=37928f2d6f8c720457f7a14f624fa4ce

In our application, this is approach is strong enough to keep the temperature stable on the Nürburgring.

Besides the 24h race, we joined a 6h race at the Nürburgring yesterday. The setup was nearly the same than during 24h race and we finished at place 55 overall. We had some bad luck during 2 pit stops because we had to wait at the gas station. During these 2 stops, we lost about 5 minutes.
But finally, we are surprised, how reliable the vehicle is. We do simply don’t have any problems with the vehicle during the races.

I am not sure, if we already do have "fans". But if so, I can tell you that we are thinking about to join the complete German VLN series next year.
And we are thinking about the following modifications of the vehicle.

- Tyre size and suspension setup
We are allowed to drive with 10,5" tyres, which are not yet used. In addition to that, we need a suspension setup, which is not too aggressive to the tyres.
- Engine performance
All the races run almost with mass production engine setup. The rules say, if we modify the engine setup, we are allowed to drive with 1,4 bar turbo pressure and air restrictor. We will see, how much power is possible with this restriction.
- Weight reduction
The vehicle weight is at about 1500kg at the moment. Of course, we reduced the weight, but with additional tank, cage and fire extinguishing system we ended at that weight. We have to see, how we can reduce it. On the other hand, this rally vehicle is very stable and excuses contacts with other vehicle or driving over the curbs.

So, finally I am sorry not to answer immediately. Let me know, if you have still questions!

TICer

What is the transmission cooling system you are referring to? The link is dead.
I'm going to nürburgring in september so i have to find a solution to the transmission overheating problem.

I just ordered a fog light removing kit, so I hope that will help in addition to an extra cooler.

ill send pics of mine, myself and another member use exactly what they did. has worked for over a year

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x86/lilyluvr77/mycooler-1.jpg?t=1280848199
mounted in serial with stock cooler, 5l of diaqueen SSTF used, NO SLOWDOWNS!!!!!!

mounted in serial with stock cooler, 5l of diaqueen SSTF used, NO SLOWDOWNS!!!!!!

Thanks for the pic. I think I will go for the same solution.
Where did you buy the parts from? Link?
Is it easy to install?

where do you live? i see your going to nurburgring. anyway its a setrab 7 row cooler with AN fittings and just about any hose will do. i got from lpi racing.

Wow and I was just over in Germany visiting relatives near Munich, looks like that race on the ring was very wet and tricky! That nighttime racing also looked very difficult and I bet they had strict rules on your headlights.

Look what I found today-->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y6kwzqmw3E

Regards to all Evo Fans

Modify

What car flew past at 1:48? I cant tell

Sick evo by the way

where do you live? i see your going to nurburgring. anyway its a setrab 7 row cooler with AN fittings and just about any hose will do. i got from lpi racing.

I live in Norway, northern europe.
The problem with the nürburgring (nordschleife), is that its 21km long (13miles), so if the transmission overheats fast, i have a big problem :wallbash:.

I found this one in UK:
http://merlinmotorsport.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=7539?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=ShoppingUS&currency=USD

I come to think of one thing tho...

The temperature in the US where you live is probably higher than here, so it might not be necessary to cool down the transmission so much over here.

If I cool it down too much, that's not good either :|

I'm curious as to what kind of lap times you were running in the evo. Care to share?


Im guessing from the volvo vid that the time was around 10min....

again this is exactly what the evo x with SST ran on the nurburgring and no slow downs within the 24hrs. and i think setrab is made in sweden, so it shouldn't be much.

again this is exactly what the evo x with SST ran on the nurburgring and no slow downs within the 24hrs. and i think setrab is made in sweden, so it shouldn't be much.

I called some guys in sweden today and asked them about this cooler actually.

I showed them the link to your picture and they didn't understand why you were using that big blue hose instead of the original one. But thats another story :) I'm ordering a cooler today.

evo gonna hurt its status even more with them using that sst tranny........unless they have done some serious upgrading


why does everyone use the "luxury" model evo x?


Well the MR is supposed to be the "Racing" version.....

Don't be JELOUS!!

U put my thought into words :)

:+1: