: Keyless entry annoyign me >:(


qu evox
06-15-2009, 05:36 PM
Ok SO, i dont know why my car is deciding to be annoying all of a sudden but i have only had my car almost a year now, and has about 8k miles on it. I have the FAST key and what its doing is i will walk up to the car with the key in my pocket, it unlocks....i get in start the car everything fine then after its running for 5-10 seconds pops up with confirm key location...even though the key is in the same place as when i turned the key 5 seconds before. Any ideas why it would be doing this and it seems to be doing it every time i start my car. any ideas are greatly appreciated.

ak47m203
06-15-2009, 05:48 PM
i think when your key is in your pockets. it happens to me. but normally put my keys to the shifter and i don't have that ckecks. do you have navy... check the settings there.

qu evox
06-15-2009, 05:50 PM
yea i have the navi and i will check the settings, but what settings should i be looking for? As nothing should have changed, and i have done the same routine since owning the car and now all of a sudden it is asking to confirm key location. Could the battery in the FOB be dying down after only a year? I may try the spare key i have and see if it is doing the same thing as well.

ddawg1130
06-15-2009, 05:52 PM
are you putting the key in the same pocket, or pretty close to, your cell phone?

boostin20
06-15-2009, 05:55 PM
are you putting the key in the same pocket, or pretty close to, your cell phone?

That seems to be a common problem.

Lan_EvoX
06-15-2009, 05:59 PM
LOL technology fail

ak47m203
06-15-2009, 06:00 PM
at least the is still starting. lol.

qu evox
06-15-2009, 06:15 PM
nah always done the same thing. Key is in the left pocket with my wallet. and then my cell phone is in my right pocket. I wouldnt put the key with the phone or else it would scratch the screen on my phone. and ive done the same since day one.

SiliconTek
06-15-2009, 07:04 PM
Low remote battery will behave the same way. I used to have that problem on my old car. Try your second remote.

ak47m203
06-15-2009, 07:05 PM
try this... use your other key.

SiliconTek
06-15-2009, 07:05 PM
try this... use your other key.

LOL, same time, same post!

ak47m203
06-15-2009, 07:10 PM
if the car is looking for the key signal it means the signal from the key is low....if the other key is the same change the battery. or just bring it to the dealer they might change your battery for free just whine with it. at least you can start you car others don't even they use the manual key which is frustrating. did you drop your key?

SiliconTek
06-15-2009, 07:10 PM
If you want irritating, wash your car with the Fast Key in your pocket and count how many times the water and suds unlock your doors.

ricanevo
06-15-2009, 07:20 PM
Man I would say it's the battery in it.

ak47m203
06-15-2009, 07:20 PM
If you want irritating, wash your car with the Fast Key in your pocket and count how many times the water and suds unlock your doors.

is that for real means that handle is sensitive enough. im gonna try it. one time i try to lock my car while the other key is inside. it worked, it beeps a different tone/sounds.

SiliconTek
06-15-2009, 07:25 PM
is that for real means that handle is sensitive enough. im gonna try it. one time i try to lock my car while the other key is inside. it worked, it beeps a different tone/sounds.

Yeah, the first time I washed my car, it would unlock itself every 30 seconds when the door auto-locked. So it would beep lock, beep-beep unlock. I finally had to take my keys inside the house.

JoeyMR
06-16-2009, 10:45 PM
try the right pocket, i've never had any problems with mine and i have it in the right pocket all the time

Cyp
06-16-2009, 11:39 PM
If you want irritating, wash your car with the Fast Key in your pocket and count how many times the water and suds unlock your doors.

LOL. I know exactly what your talking about!

MOB EVO X
06-16-2009, 11:44 PM
If you want irritating, wash your car with the Fast Key in your pocket and count how many times the water and suds unlock your doors.

Haha this happened to me two days ago. It was a trip lol.

Try your right pocket. Whenever I put the key in my left pocket, the same thing happens. So I try to leave it in my right all the time.

qu evox
06-17-2009, 06:43 PM
yea i now switched to my other key and its not doing it leading me to only believe that the batt is low in the other one. What i also realized is that the sensor is in the center cosole right below the cup holders. SO even if you batt is low it will still read when you have it in your right pocket because it is closer to the sensor. and not being blocked by your legs (obviously) but i find it lame that it is low on battery after only a year :( and 8k miles.

ddawg1130
06-17-2009, 06:57 PM
Yeah, the first time I washed my car, it would unlock itself every 30 seconds when the door auto-locked. So it would beep lock, beep-beep unlock. I finally had to take my keys inside the house.

or you could just wash the car with it unlocked ;)

qu evox
06-17-2009, 07:23 PM
the point of the thread wasnt about when i wash my car its about when i got in my car and it then would ask me to confirm the key location. This was due to the battery being low, i was just more so shocked to find that the battery in my FOB is low after only 8k miles and not even a full year of owning the car.

dfsmith
06-18-2009, 08:24 AM
Sounds like you need to wash, scrub and dry your passenger and driver exterior handles. I think they use a capacitative sensor to detect when you touch the handle, so if there's goop on one of them the car will unlock when the key's in range.

Or it could be something else. But the handles would be my first guess.

Papi4baby
06-18-2009, 08:52 AM
the point of the thread wasnt about when i wash my car its about when i got in my car and it then would ask me to confirm the key location. This was due to the battery being low, i was just more so shocked to find that the battery in my FOB is low after only 8k miles and not even a full year of owning the car.

What do you expect????

Is just another piece of equipment/technology. Things fail and degrade over time. Maybe your car was built and was just sitting for longer than a year, that takes a toll on the battery.

Just change it out and be happy the fob itself is not damage.

qu evox
06-21-2009, 11:22 PM
OK, well now this thread is about to take a very interesting turn. So i have been using my other key now and i was still getting the same issue where it wont read, yet starts my car. At the end of the day i finally was able to determine what is making the receiver not read and i don't understand it for the life of me....For some reason my AEM wideband gauge is causing my sensor to not get a good reading. :( I dont understand it for the life of me. If i unplug the gauge, the key reads in my left pocket and works fine. If I then plug the gauge back in....the signal drops and the car says "confirm key location." I have the gauge wired back to the fuse panel, and i have undone it and tapped the power fofr it off the cigarette liter, still did it. off a wire in the center console that powers the asc switch if it is in the middle which is not used on my car because i have the GSR and all those places still make the key not read as well as it should. So to be clear...if the gauge is plugged in...key in my left pocket yields --> "confirm key location" with gauge plugged in and key in the right pocket the sensor sees it and all is well. With gauge unplugged the key can be anywhere left pocked under my a$$ doesnt matter it works like a charm. So, my question is why would the wideband gauge be causing so much interference? And how can i make it go away? And also when the wideband is plugged in you can hear a little buzz through the speakers when the radio is off. Does anyone else with a wideband sometimes get the confirm key location? Maybe a bad gauge but i do know for sure that it is definitely the gauge someway somehow. cause without it everything works perfectly.

qu evox
06-22-2009, 11:32 PM
Any ideas?

heavyD
06-23-2009, 03:33 AM
the point of the thread wasnt about when i wash my car its about when i got in my car and it then would ask me to confirm the key location. This was due to the battery being low, i was just more so shocked to find that the battery in my FOB is low after only 8k miles and not even a full year of owning the car.

If I were you I would get counseling. That sounds like a horrible and traumatic experience. I mean the key fob battery died.;)

qu evox
06-24-2009, 12:04 AM
If I were you I would get counseling. That sounds like a horrible and traumatic experience. I mean the key fob battery died.;)

DUDE are you honestly serious. Reasd my previous post you D*** sorry mods but i dont need counseling. Im having an issue where my key fob isnt being recognized because of a WIDEBAND sensor so dont jump in and tell me i need counseling. How bout some ides on how to make it better you *(input choice words here)*

funks
09-10-2009, 07:38 AM
Are you still having problems with the UEGO interfering with the FAST KEY system? You think the is sending out some interference via RF? Tried shielding the guage?

jscrub
10-30-2009, 10:42 PM
So, my question is why would the wideband gauge be causing so much interference? And how can i make it go away? And also when the wideband is plugged in you can hear a little buzz through the speakers when the radio is off. Does anyone else with a wideband sometimes get the confirm key location? Maybe a bad gauge but i do know for sure that it is definitely the gauge someway somehow. cause without it everything works perfectly.

Hey i got this account just because i think i may have an answer to your question (signed up just now) . I am also contemplating buying an evo x.

Well it sounds to me you are having grounding issues with that wideband gauge. It may be causing feedback noise back into the rest of the entire electrical system which may be interfering with your RFID reader in the center console. Typically that buzzing sound coming from the speakers is the feedback you are hearing. I've heard it on some badly wired audio systems.

- J

edit: just noticed this is a super old thread. Anyways hope that helps if you still haven't found the problem

Frankiago
10-30-2009, 11:19 PM
This isn't too old. It doesn't sound like a ground issue because you'd definitely see ground issues in the gauge itself.

I would try shielding. Not only the wires but the back of the gauge itself.

xbox4414
10-30-2009, 11:22 PM
DUDE are you honestly serious. Reasd my previous post you D*** sorry mods but i dont need counseling. Im having an issue where my key fob isnt being recognized because of a WIDEBAND sensor so dont jump in and tell me i need counseling. How bout some ides on how to make it better you *(input choice words here)*

ROFL, how is your UEGO causing problems with the FAST key? Installed wrong or tapped into a power supply that runs the FAST key. I have a UEGO and FAST key and not a single problem. Only time I get the "key not found" BS it's because I'm sitting on the key, it wrapped in layers of clothing or it's near my cell phone. Ever try switching the key to the right pocket? Hahaha. I personally have found the signal gets weaker on the sides of the car when in my pocket. Either driver side left pocket or passenger side right pocket.

qu evox
10-30-2009, 11:28 PM
I tried to shield the gauge. I put Aluminum foil and COVERED the gauge in a ball so i couldnt even see it. I think it is more than likely a grounding issue, or some sort of interference, but what is weird is that if the gauge is not connected i never get the issue, but no matter where i ground the gauge i still get, confirm key location when i initially start my car. I just ignore it and about 20 seconds later it finds the key and i just keep going. It doesnt affect me starting the car or unlocking, so it is definitely a weird issue. I would have to say it is some sort of negative interference from the gauge, but i am not sure what else to try. I am pretty much just used to it bugging out right when i get in the car at this point but it would be nice to not have to deal with it. No one else with the AEM wideband and Fast key has this issue at all? And my wideband was run off my cigarette liter, but i thought that might be the issue so its now run off the fuse box and shouldnt be causing interference with the fast key sensor at all. But who knows, its not a huge deal, just something i wondered if anyone else noticed. Any other input is appreciated!

jscrub
10-30-2009, 11:51 PM
Are you still seeing the problem running off the fuse box? hopefully that fixes it. Thats the only other safe place i'd consider tapping into. I wonder if you can put a small capacitor on the power supply side or regulate the power going into it. When i had a project in school stuff that creates a lot of noise like a micro chip ( its called " bit banging" in lingo terms or going from 1 to 0 constantly) it would cause a lot of feed back and we would get super jittery servos. To counter act that we used a cap to prevent the voltage from spiking. Or maybe a diode would work. Eh not really sure would have to test it out on a bench with an oscilloscope. but its something worth researching.

jscrub
10-30-2009, 11:53 PM
Xboy4414 where did you tap your power from?