NOt sure of the specs of any I was hoping some of you guys could chime in thx.

ETS!!!!

ETS is who I'd go with.

http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/Mitsubishi/Eagle-Evolution-X-Evo-X-Exhaust-Systems/c5_5303_5304/p16666/ETS-Mitsubishi-Evolution-X-Stock-Replacement-Exhaust-Manifold/product_info.html

You should add an ets option on the poll.

You already know which one i picked.

ETS for me

I love the ETS just wish it was seamless and SS like the rest of my SX TBE

ETS, any Heat issues with it as of yet?

LOL thats the one I want bad Just want to hear some feed back from people with the other one really


You already know which one i picked.

U missed Xtremeboost and Gruppe-S

this is my first turbo car. i have heard many guys who own the 8 and the 9 that they have put in the 30r and the 35r. does that still apply for the x?

yeah man, i have the ETS manifold it is awesome :thumbup:

the blitz one is a bit more but its nice

blitz has one?? got a link I haven't seen that one yet

I have the AFI it's great...and you for sure could feel the difference ;)

ohhhh pics Rene, pics ;)

:ttiwwp:

Any dyno sheets of an upgraded manifold vs stock?

check out jsc speed for the blitz one. lvsbb6 has it

the exhaust? thought he has the intake mani?

I think i'd go with the ETS

Any dyno sheets of an upgraded manifold vs stock?


It would be nice to see dyno runs done to compare

stock vs upgraded manifold vs ported stock manifold (GrimmSpeed)

U missed Xtremeboost and Gruppe-S


XTREMEBOOST?


and you should go with the stock manifold ported and coated.

no, im sorry, i dont know what i was thinking, the blitz is an intake manifold, not an exhaust.

does anyone know how much the oem exhaust manifold weighs? id like to free up some weight on the front heavy x

does anyone know how much the oem exhaust manifold weighs? id like to free up some weight on the front heavy x


its heavy because its cast, but it holds heat better then a tubulaar manifold, which is what you want to do with a rear mount setup like that.

I wouldnt say anything but stock until there is PROOF of these being a worthy upgrade.

when you say you want a manifold to hold heat because of its rear set up, are you talking about all that heat towards the firewall and making the interior hotter. would heat wrap on tubular headers be effective?

Garage G Force also makes one.

FYI: AFI makes Agency Powers EVO X Turbo kit and manifolds ;)

Yea I no but I have had shitty luck with them when I lived in japan they are like the down brand in the performance world over there. The one I bought brand new through autobac cracked within 3 months on my gtr then I went with topsecret which was amazing.

Garage G Force also makes one.

I wouldnt say anything but stock until there is PROOF of these being a worthy upgrade.

:+1: on the VIII and IX's the best was the stock mani ported (until you go huge). for the X i believe even porting the stock one nets you very minimal gains...seems like the the stock exhaust manifold is fine until you start pushing big numbers.

check out jsc speed for the blitz one. lvsbb6 has it

He has a surge tank from them, its an intake manifold not a turbo manifold.

Full race = amazing. You won't be dissapointed, but it costs an arm and a leg.

LOL it's only half the price of the Jun manifold :thumbup:




Full race = amazing. You won't be dissapointed, but it costs an arm and a leg.

:+1: on the VIII and IX's the best was the stock mani ported (until you go huge). for the X i believe even porting the stock one nets you very minimal gains...seems like the the stock exhaust manifold is fine until you start pushing big numbers.

:yeahthat:

And you should be considering other more useful mods since you only have an Accessport

I have mods coming in and I like only taking stuff off once so I'll do the mani and turbo as well as turbo back all at the same time


And you should be considering other more useful mods since you only have an Accessport

Evolved boost and ult One. have made great points. I don't really think the stock one is holding you back. All the listed manifolds are great and will provide you with some great numbers, but IMHO you are not making the power to warrent one.

LOL it's only half the price of the Jun manifold :thumbup:

I'd take the Full Race one before the Jun one if I had the choice.

Look guys I just wanted info my car has been down for almost 1 week now for a street/ track built shooting for 450 awhp or so that is safe for dd driving.

^ good luck on that! thats the power i want to be making with mine!

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6333/fullrace.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/i/fullrace.jpg/)


Sleep tight my little baby...soon you will be attached to a +400hp beast.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA why did i find that so funny

LOL

Which mani is that?

Look guys I just wanted info my car has been down for almost 1 week now for a street/ track built shooting for 450 awhp or so that is safe for dd driving.


haha... my car has been down a total of 6 months out of teh year i have owned it. I am taking it down again on sunday. and i am doing a sick custom downpipe with a very custom external dumped setup. ported fp red, and a very custom LICP and BOV setup. Just wait till you guys see what I have in store. :) and i plan on the car being down for about 1 month.

^ good luck on that! thats the power i want to be making with mine!

good luck to you sir!

LOL

Which mani is that?
Full Race

Full Race

Those welds are f'ing sexy.

Wow, JUN has the overwhelming win in the poll which I wasn't expecting. Why are people all about spending that much money when you could have the FULLRACE for considerably less money?

^Or the ETS for even less! :p

i want to see dynos!

Any body know what kind of manifold ryan gates uses. I'm looking at a pic of his engine bay right now and it's looks like a cast piece. I haven't seen anything like. Maybe a future AMS piece?

Hes using AMS 35r kit i believe.

Hes using AMS 35r kit i believe.

Who's using that? If you're referring to gates, he's running the fp red.

^ im pretty sure he changed and is now using the AMS 35r kit there planing to come out with. Thats what i heard some where.

i want to see dynos!

i saw dyno's for the 4g's fullrace manifold but none for the x on their website. the results were really good.

dont blitz make a manifold?

joey, they make an intake mani for sure, I haven't seen an exhaust mani from them though, but who knows ;)

yeah i know about the intake but i thought i heard from someone that they had gotten an exhaust mani. maybe not but i could have swore

also what about AMS? i thought they were gonna be making one for production?

I want more info on this AMS kit ;)

EDIT: see that caught your attention too ;) I have heard the same but I want more info on it now ;)

I think i read some where that AMS said it should be out by late summer?!

Who's using that? If you're referring to gates, he's running the fp red.

Yupp Ryan gates is not using the Fp red anymore hes using AMS Prototype 750r Turbo Kit

post a pic of it Josh? I'd love to see this cast mani that was referred to :\

I dont have a pic of ryans car but heres AMS turbo kit with cast header on Time attack car, Which i think ryan is using now. Not certain though.

5672

no neato, it's like a tubular but casted, I don't think I have ever seen that before, AMS sure likes there cast stuff (not against it, just saying), Thanks BTW Josh!

Your welcome, glad i could help!

no pics at this moment but I'll make sure to take some tomorrow and post it up....

as for a dyno sheet I do not have.... :( sorry.....

you gonna post the secret stuff too Rene? :D you luck SOB :D

Here is the ETS Tubular Manifold from different angles and with DEI Titanium Exhaust Wrap:


http://www.rochesterdsm.org/forums/download/file.php?id=361



http://www.rochesterdsm.org/forums/download/file.php?id=352





http://www.rochesterdsm.org/forums/download/file.php?id=351
http://www.rochesterdsm.org/forums/download/file.php?id=349

U missed Xtremeboost and Gruppe-S

call gruppe-s and ask them about their headers and see what they say :p

^Or the ETS for even less! :p

True Dat but it wasnt an option thats why I didnt mention it.

Here is the ETS Tubular Manifold from different angles and with DEI Titanium Exhaust Wrap:


http://www.rochesterdsm.org/forums/download/file.php?id=361



http://www.rochesterdsm.org/forums/download/file.php?id=352





http://www.rochesterdsm.org/forums/download/file.php?id=351
http://www.rochesterdsm.org/forums/download/file.php?id=349

looks great man, any heat issues? Do you drive it often? I'm thinking I might do this if it's DD safe, thanks.

call gruppe-s and ask them about their headers and see what they say :p
Back ordered I know.

Doesnt Gruppe-S make the manifolds for JUN also?

I don't know why I thought ETS looked worse than that. It looks as good as Fullrace's mani.

looks the same cept the welds, the full race welds are sooo yummy!

Back ordered I know.

Doesnt Gruppe-S make the manifolds for JUN also?

possibly i can try to find out

looks great man, any heat issues? Do you drive it often? I'm thinking I might do this if it's DD safe, thanks.

So far it seems rock solid and I put about 1200-1300 miles a month on the car. Also since I've been tuning the car quite a bit I've really heated up the runners orange, just allowed a reasonable cooldown period so that it heat cycles properly and doesn't risk cracking. The wrap was containing the glow very well!

As for the welds on the ETS manifold they aren't quite Full Race good but they are decent. I actually cleaned up a few spots with my Die Grinder using just a grinding stone bit, nothing major but they could form the tubing to the same shape as the head ports a little closer and not have to weld as much.

As for the welds on the ETS manifold they aren't quite Full Race good but they are decent. I actually cleaned up a few spots with my Die Grinder using just a grinding stone bit, nothing major but they could form the tubing to the same shape as the head ports a little closer and not have to weld as much.

They're saving money for the consumer by not paying someone to make them all pretty. Same reason SC leaves the weld like it is on their test pipe.

I am going to use the ETS. The Full-Race one looks very nice, but honestly, I don't see anything to justify the price difference. I am going to use the same DEI wrap as in the pics. I used the wrap on my down pipe, and it is VERY good at containing heat.

I honestly think that leaving ETS out of this poll, even if you don't intend to use them, skews the results.

looks like the Gruppe-s is the cheapest, and looks liek it has an awesome finish to it! I would be afraid of underhood fires with a manifold and no heat sheild though. Maybe a Jet-hot coating would be a good investment.

Heres a pics of Gates' engine bay
http://image.importtuner.com/f/24124943+w750+st0/impp_0909_02_z+2008_mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_x+engine_bay.jpg

wow that turbo looks like it's moved lots to the right, I'm guessing this won't me a 100% bolt on kit :\

Heres a pics of Gates' engine bay
http://image.importtuner.com/f/24124943+w750+st0/impp_0909_02_z+2008_mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_x+engine_bay.jpg

Is this the AMS prototype GT35 turbo kit??

Someone should buy the Jun manifold already.

looks like the Gruppe-s is the cheapest, and looks liek it has an awesome finish to it! I would be afraid of underhood fires with a manifold and no heat sheild though. Maybe a Jet-hot coating would be a good investment.

The heat wrap on the manifold is at least as good as the factory heat shield at containing heat. The only reason I don't say better, is that I am unsure how much effect the vents on the factory shield have when combined with the airflow caused by the center hood scoop on removing heat. With P clamps and stand offs, you can probably manage to mount the factory or a similar heat shield to it, but until I get my hands on one and install it, I won't be sure. When I do my install, I will make a write up similar to my http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16139 post.

Thanks for all the love everyone! The ETS Manifold is 100% direct bolt on! One good thing about a hand built manifold is the merge collector, most cast manifolds don't have a very good merge collector. Most of the time they are not even a true twin scroll design.

If you have any questions, let us know!

Thanks,

michael

Hey Michael, As posting here about the unfinished welds, like not groud to save cost. Could we paid extra for finishing? And could you also offer an other option to have it pre wrapped so it's all pro like, and maybe yet an other option for an EGT bung pre done. That would make it the ultimate option to me, if I could buy one finished warped with EGT bung pre welded I'd be one happy guy! :D

Hey Michael, As posting here about the unfinished welds, like not groud to save cost. Could we paid extra for finishing? And could you also offer an other option to have it pre wrapped so it's all pro like, and maybe yet an other option for an EGT bung pre done. That would make it the ultimate option to me, if I could buy one finished warped with EGT bung pre welded I'd be one happy guy! :D

:yeahthat:stole the words out of my mouth. i suck at wrapping things with the heat wrap. im with the sin right now.

Hey Michael, As posting here about the unfinished welds, like not groud to save cost. Could we paid extra for finishing? And could you also offer an other option to have it pre wrapped so it's all pro like, and maybe yet an other option for an EGT bung pre done. That would make it the ultimate option to me, if I could buy one finished warped with EGT bung pre welded I'd be one happy guy! :D

:yeahthat:stole the words out of my mouth. i suck at wrapping things with the heat wrap. im with the sin right now.

I'm not sure I could do any better on the wrap job =) We might be able to work something out, we can always do the EGT bung or O2 bung for an addtional $15.00.

Michael

nice one out of 3 ;) The wrap job is what scares me to be honest, that and getting the bung right cause I'd have to take it someplace and that already scares me, I suppose I can clean up the inner flange welds with a die grinder. But I really want a wrap job like HiBoost, man that looks great!

nice one out of 3 ;) The wrap job is what scares me to be honest, that and getting the bung right cause I'd have to take it someplace and that already scares me, I suppose I can clean up the inner flange welds with a die grinder. But I really want a wrap job like HiBoost, man that looks great!

We port the inside collector and runners before shipment. :dancebanana: ya, HiBoost did a killer job on that wrap job.

Michael

oh perfect I thought I read that it wasn't if that is the case then disregard that part.

Yeah it looks really good, maybe I can pay him to do one for me and I'll just have you guys send it to him ;)

Not quiet ready for it yet, but it's coming with my turbo upgrade ;)

Sounds Good! If you have any questions, let us know!

Thanks,

Michael

You can add another one to the list.

Not sure how many of you are familiar with my work but I make very unique CNC machined billet turbo manifolds. They are very light and strong and I am able to create very intricate passages to direct the exhaust gas exactly the way I want it to flow.

Dino has asked me to develop a stock replacement manifold for the EVOX with an external wastegate flange. Around the same time I was also asked by PT Performance to design a big turbo T3 flanged manifold for the Caliber SRT4 which has a very similar motor to the EVOX.

Here is a link to the dyno result on the Caliber. Take a look at the bottom end torque. John at PT almost hit 600 whp on a stock block Caliber with a BW S362 turbo and with a little more tuning I'm sure he will go way past these numbers. It was also 110 degrees at the dyno facility so not ideal conditions. Obviously its not a straight bolt on mod but I figured you guys might be interested anyway. The manifold will be tested this weekend on an EVOX so hopefully it fits ok in there too and we can start offering you guys another option. If it dosen't fit then I guess you will have to wait for the stock replacement EVO manifold but at least you can see what to expect.

http://www.calibersrt4.net/dodge-caliber-srt-4-performance/27649-582-sae-whp-ptps-big-turbo-kit.html

http://www.calibersrt4.net/dodge-caliber-srt-4-performance/27539-ptp-steedspeed-manifold-car.html

We need pics of all of these to compare. Maybe links would be nice too. I only knew about the ets one and at this second is what I would go with.

Pt's manifold looks great, but I spent $38k to move away from the srt-4 scene (numbers are SICK for a stock bottom end w/s362 though). Waiting to see the evoX mani.

fullraces turbo sets are second to none. My friend has an awesome one on his rsx-s, and I have never heard of a single problem with a full race setup.

I dont have a pic of ryans car but heres AMS turbo kit with cast header on Time attack car, Which i think ryan is using now. Not certain though.

5672

When is this supposed to hit the shelves?

PT Performace, I feel like Im in a time warp

ex dbb 50 trim SRT4 guy

You can add another one to the list.

Not sure how many of you are familiar with my work but I make very unique CNC machined billet turbo manifolds. They are very light and strong and I am able to create very intricate passages to direct the exhaust gas exactly the way I want it to flow.

Dino has asked me to develop a stock replacement manifold for the EVOX with an external wastegate flange. Around the same time I was also asked by PT Performance to design a big turbo T3 flanged manifold for the Caliber SRT4 which has a very similar motor to the EVOX.

Here is a link to the dyno result on the Caliber. Take a look at the bottom end torque. John at PT almost hit 600 whp on a stock block Caliber with a BW S362 turbo and with a little more tuning I'm sure he will go way past these numbers. It was also 110 degrees at the dyno facility so not ideal conditions. Obviously its not a straight bolt on mod but I figured you guys might be interested anyway. The manifold will be tested this weekend on an EVOX so hopefully it fits ok in there too and we can start offering you guys another option. If it dosen't fit then I guess you will have to wait for the stock replacement EVO manifold but at least you can see what to expect.

http://www.calibersrt4.net/dodge-caliber-srt-4-performance/27649-582-sae-whp-ptps-big-turbo-kit.html

http://www.calibersrt4.net/dodge-caliber-srt-4-performance/27539-ptp-steedspeed-manifold-car.html

Pt's manifold looks great, but I spent $38k to move away from the srt-4 scene (numbers are SICK for a stock bottom end w/s362 though). Waiting to see the evoX mani.

Really eh! I'm amazed that Dodge put such good internals into the motor. I'm hoping this manifold fits the EVO too because the stock EVO manifold flows almost as bad as the factory Caliber manifold. In testing the exhaust blows back at the cylinder head through the other cylinder ports. My manifold creates vacuum (scavenging) in the other ports and blasts all the energy in the exhaust into the turbine giving excellent low end torque.

BTW. These videos show how I make them.

http://www.steedspeed.com/videos