: Gates311: Evo X Reliability


Gates311
08-11-2009, 05:28 PM
Mitsubishi's all new 4B11T engine in the Evo X has proven to be something special. I've had some great first hand experience with it, and I'm still amazed every time I drive the car. For the past two seasons I've been racing my car all over the US, starting with a brand new car to where it sits today, a 500+whp, 2,850lb. track car. The car has seen many changes...suspension, turbos, fuel type, weight, etc. But the one thing that's remained is the stock Mitsubishi 4B11T engine. It's been extremely resilient, even after 8,750 track miles it's not showing any signs of fatigue. That says alot about the new engine and it's design, but it also goes to show how the right choice of parts and tuner really comes into play.

AMS Performance has been preparing my car since day one, with their bolt-ons, tuning and general maintenance of the car. Road racing requires alot from a car, especially the engine. The engine is running wide open for 20-30 minutes at a time, with all the heat building up things can really go wrong. That's where the right parts and proper tuning really matter. With AMS' parts and tuning, my car has been exceptionally reliable, showing no signs of failure. Even now, with AMS' Prototype Cast Manifold 750R Turbo kit on the car, it's just as reliable on track, every time. The car is making well over 500whp, running upwards of 36-37psi, even revving to 8,200rpm and the stock engine just keeps on running as if it were stock. The 4B11T revs so smooth, even with all the power and we've added, some of the time I forget to think about it on track! There's no weird noises, no sputtering, no knocking, it just runs like new...but with alot more power!

I'd really like to thank Mitsubishi for building such an incredible engine in the 4B11T and AMS Performance for safely extracting so much power out the 4B11T. Reliability is so huge in racing, if you can't focus on the track because you're constantly fighting issues, you will fall behind. Luckily with the 4B11T and AMS Performance, I've had great success with the car and look to continue moving forward.

Here's the latest graph - AMS Prototype Cast Manifold 750R Turbo kit on E85 Track tune vs. Stock

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/blacktrack/OB%20X%20GSR/AMS750RE85vscompletelystockGSR.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/blacktrack/OB%20X%20GSR/IMG_9386.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/blacktrack/OB%20X%20GSR/Autobahn_2_1copy.jpg


Video: The car on track, getting completely thrashed going 177:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHa6hHoALLs&fmt=22

Kooldino
08-11-2009, 05:36 PM
Man, that thing hauls.

Jackygor
08-11-2009, 05:47 PM
you are definitely ken block of the evo x LOL!

Storm_trooper
08-11-2009, 05:51 PM
man im jealous, i would love to drive a car with that much power and suspension around a track :) lucky man ryan, lucky man!

jmayevox
08-11-2009, 05:54 PM
That is a sic vid gates and the mad scientist of AMS.

-Evolved Boost-
08-11-2009, 05:57 PM
great little video! congrats on everything so far!

and you can see his co-driver in the video :dancebanana:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/blacktrack/OB%20X%20GSR/Mumphrey.jpg

Ultimateone
08-11-2009, 06:05 PM
Awesome stuff!

Revolution X
08-11-2009, 06:10 PM
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee54/falcor8563/Borat-NICE.jpg

pmoney559
08-11-2009, 06:10 PM
great little video! congrats on everything so far!

and you can see his co-driver in the video :dancebanana:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/blacktrack/OB%20X%20GSR/Mumphrey.jpg

LOL and I was wondering who's hair is tht blowing around in the passenger side?? Now I know.

wilbdog
08-11-2009, 06:13 PM
Mitsubishi + AMS = Reliable Godly Power

BigT
08-11-2009, 06:29 PM
Ryan. Awesome car. Mind sharing with us what kind of oil and weight you use?

Gates311
08-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Thanks for all the good words guys!
Mitsubishi + AMS = Reliable Godly Power
Amen.
Ryan. Awesome car. Mind sharing with us what kind of oil and weight you use?
Amsoil 5w40.

Domo X
08-11-2009, 07:27 PM
holy shiate...i don''t even drive that fast on Gran Turismo! lol

dakoop
08-11-2009, 09:11 PM
Damn nice job and car sirs!

TRUSTcompany9000
08-11-2009, 09:27 PM
Excellent video, definitely looks like a crazy good time there.

Ryan you really love that neon green watch, eh?

Gates311
08-11-2009, 09:44 PM
holy shiate...i don''t even drive that fast on Gran Turismo! lol
Haha :rock:
Excellent video, definitely looks like a crazy good time there.

Ryan you really love that neon green watch, eh?
It's a Nooka...cmon.

And that lap is about 1.5-2 seconds off where I was, so not crazy fast.

dakoop
08-11-2009, 09:45 PM
And that lap is about 1.5-2 seconds off where I was, so not crazy fast.

Don't start to slack on us or we will pull you off of the pedestal we put you on:shades:

TRUSTcompany9000
08-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Ah alright, if it wasn't a Nooka I'd have more to say about it lol. Knock of the slacking though, you have an uber rep to uphold! lol

Gates311
08-11-2009, 10:02 PM
Don't start to slack on us or we will pull you off of the pedestal we put you on:shades:

Ah alright, if it wasn't a Nooka I'd have more to say about it lol. Knock of the slacking though, you have an uber rep to uphold! lol
Won't happen anymore.

Revolution X
08-11-2009, 10:07 PM
lmao!!
much props Ryan!!
Don't start to slack on us or we will pull you off of the pedestal we put you on:shades:

boostin20
08-11-2009, 10:13 PM
Wicked, keep up the good work Ryan!

TRUSTcompany9000
08-11-2009, 10:13 PM
Won't happen anymore.

Lol excellent.

The reason we give you crap... is that we're all jealous that we can't drive an X for a living :shades:

dakoop
08-11-2009, 10:17 PM
:iagree:

TheNEWB
08-12-2009, 08:07 AM
Mitsubishi's all new 4B11T engine in the Evo X has proven to be something special.

Thats awesome. Something that I wanted to ask while watching the video....... are you running ASC completely off?

joey
08-12-2009, 02:07 PM
Man that looks like a blast. That car looks real strong through every gear. Great job

Gates311
08-12-2009, 04:41 PM
Thanks for all the good words guys!

Thats awesome. Something that I wanted to ask while watching the video....... are you running ASC completely off?
Yep, the ASC is all the way off.

Inner Control
08-13-2009, 11:23 AM
no words.. cannot be happier about the reliability of the 4b11... looks like evo jap guys did their homework again !

Gates311
10-21-2009, 04:52 PM
no words.. cannot be happier about the reliability of the 4b11... looks like evo jap guys did their homework again !
Indeed.

New video added.

swingarm
10-21-2009, 05:21 PM
Very nice video AND sound. Gives me confidence one day that when I upgrade my tranny to where I want I could maybe get close to that. :godance:

GoKimiGo!
10-21-2009, 05:59 PM
Congrats on all your success Ryan, best of luck on all your upcoming events!

DRIV4K16
10-21-2009, 06:00 PM
Does that car have any body roll???? Jesus!

Gates311
10-21-2009, 06:55 PM
Thanks guys!

Does that car have any body roll???? Jesus!
Haha maybe a lil bit...

pdacton
10-21-2009, 07:37 PM
Great video. Two things caught my eye:

1. How smooth your inputs are on the steering. No sawing at the steering wheel fighting over/understeer - testament to your driving skill, but also the superb setup of the car.

2. You still have the crappy Mitsubishi radio/CD player in the dash!!! All that effort to save weight, and you keep the radio in there! Do you like to listen to the radio as you're blasting around Road America at 150 mph! :)

Gates311
10-21-2009, 07:50 PM
Great video. Two things caught my eye:

1. How smooth your inputs are on the steering. No sawing at the steering wheel fighting over/understeer - testament to your driving skill, but also the superb setup of the car.

2. You still have the crappy Mitsubishi radio/CD player in the dash!!! All that effort to save weight, and you keep the radio in there! Do you like to listen to the radio as you're blasting around Road America at 150 mph! :)
Thanks. The car is setup incredibly...something that often gets over looked. I've always been super smooth, makes my videos "boring" haha.

The radio is gone, the faceplate is still there though....and it was 177mph btw ;)

SineEVO
10-21-2009, 08:52 PM
Gates, you're the man! One question: You run Carbonetic triple & original plastic master cylinder with AMS reinforcement ring and no problems with these?

pdacton
10-21-2009, 10:54 PM
By the way, did you know your 2:17 time is faster than the fastest lap from the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup cars at the ALMS race at Road America this year, and only a few seconds off the fastest GT2 car? :clap:

Gates311
10-22-2009, 01:14 AM
Gates, you're the man! One question: You run Carbonetic triple & original plastic master cylinder with AMS reinforcement ring and no problems with these?
Haha thanks man. I ran the AMS MC Ring for months with no issues. I recently had a Tilton MC installed to as a precautionary measure. For a street car I think you'll be just fine with the AMS MC Ring.

By the way, did you know your 2:17 time is faster than the fastest lap from the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup cars at the ALMS race at Road America this year, and only a few seconds off the fastest GT2 car? :clap:
Ahhhh thanks for pointing that out! I thought they were close but hadn't checked to verify. Cool thing is there is plenty of time in the setup under different circumstances :)

dcasandman
10-22-2009, 01:15 AM
By the way, did you know your 2:17 time is faster than the fastest lap from the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup cars at the ALMS race at Road America this year, and only a few seconds off the fastest GT2 car? :clap:
All I can say is WOW!!

Kooldino
10-22-2009, 01:18 AM
Thanks. The car is setup incredibly...something that often gets over looked. I've always been super smooth, makes my videos "boring" haha.

The radio is gone, the faceplate is still there though....and it was 177mph btw ;)

177mph? Stock gears? What RPM?

Gates311
10-22-2009, 01:29 AM
177mph? Stock gears? What RPM?
Stock gears around 8,200rpm

pdacton
10-22-2009, 01:56 AM
Ahhhh thanks for pointing that out! I thought they were close but hadn't checked to verify. Cool thing is there is plenty of time in the setup under different circumstances :)

ALMS is opening up the GT Challenge Class in 2010 to non-Porsche cars - have you ever thought about anything like that? Would be amazing to see an Evo X blasting around Sebring for the 12 Hours, or at Petit Le Mans! Now that would be a test of your car's reliability.

I saw an Evo IX at a Speed World Challenge GT event and it was hopelessly outclassed by the GT2-spec cars. But an Evo X in GT Challenge would be a different story (particularly given how competitive your lap times were at Road America).

Gates311
10-22-2009, 05:31 PM
ALMS is opening up the GT Challenge Class in 2010 to non-Porsche cars - have you ever thought about anything like that? Would be amazing to see an Evo X blasting around Sebring for the 12 Hours, or at Petit Le Mans! Now that would be a test of your car's reliability.

I saw an Evo IX at a Speed World Challenge GT event and it was hopelessly outclassed by the GT2-spec cars. But an Evo X in GT Challenge would be a different story (particularly given how competitive your lap times were at Road America).
The issue I could see with this, as seen in the past, is the extreme restrictions placed on turbo cars. Hence why that Evo IX was so out classed. I'd love to do real racing with this car, but in reality I don't think it'll equate to much. I'll talk to some people though, see if it's at all possible...thanks!

pdacton
10-22-2009, 05:54 PM
The issue I could see with this, as seen in the past, is the extreme restrictions placed on turbo cars. Hence why that Evo IX was so out classed. I'd love to do real racing with this car, but in reality I don't think it'll equate to much. I'll talk to some people though, see if it's at all possible...thanks!

Get Mitsubishi to sponsor you! They're not in rallying any more, so they may be looking for a high-profile sports car event instead.

I volunteer to be your (unpaid) pit crew!

Gates311
10-22-2009, 08:52 PM
Get Mitsubishi to sponsor you! They're not in rallying any more, so they may be looking for a high-profile sports car event instead.

I volunteer to be your (unpaid) pit crew!
Be patient....:shades:

pcasso87
10-23-2009, 09:11 PM
Ryan, arent you required to have a passenger seat???

Gates311
10-23-2009, 09:34 PM
Ryan, arent you required to have a passenger seat???
Nope.

pcasso87
10-23-2009, 10:08 PM
Nope.

I require you to have one so i can get a ride in that beast bro!!!! :whipping:

GO ON 3
10-23-2009, 10:11 PM
I require you to have one so i can get a ride in that beast bro!!!! :whipping:

and slap in that back seat so I can ride! cant always have shotty:thumbup:

pcasso87
10-23-2009, 10:15 PM
and slap in that back seat so I can ride! cant always have shotty:thumbup:

holla

GO ON 3
10-23-2009, 10:30 PM
holla



Ahahah Ryan no joke here we are your new pit crew/ guys sitting next to you when you race! who needs that heavy cam on top of your car and in car, Ill be the camera guy!!

Gates311
10-23-2009, 10:37 PM
I require you to have one so i can get a ride in that beast bro!!!! :whipping:

and slap in that back seat so I can ride! cant always have shotty:thumbup:

I have a stock seat in the car now, and the back seats are always in! I've been giving rides to some friends around St. Paul the past week.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/blacktrack/OB%20X%20GSR/Mumphrey.jpg

Ahahah Ryan no joke here we are your new pit crew/ guys sitting next to you when you race! who needs that heavy cam on top of your car and in car, Ill be the camera guy!!
Haha nice idea! It'll be a huge help gettin that heavy ass camera off the top of the car...all about lower center of gravity...I get it!

powersteer
03-08-2010, 04:17 AM
Stock gears around 8,200rpm

Hi Ryan, are u running stock valve springs, valves and camshafts?

Gates311
03-09-2010, 05:01 PM
Hi Ryan, are u running stock valve springs, valves and camshafts?
Hey dude, the car now has cams and upgraded springs.

GO ON 3
03-09-2010, 05:16 PM
I have a stock seat in the car now, and the back seats are always in! I've been giving rides to some friends around St. Paul the past week.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/blacktrack/OB%20X%20GSR/Mumphrey.jpg


Haha nice idea! It'll be a huge help gettin that heavy ass camera off the top of the car...all about lower center of gravity...I get it!
hahaha you got it :D

Hey dude, the car now has cams and upgraded springs.

what did you go with for cams/springs?

Gates311
03-09-2010, 05:20 PM
I had Kelford A's put in, not sure on spring brand though...probably Kelford?

GO ON 3
03-09-2010, 06:33 PM
Kelford As. Are thos not the stage one's. Ment fr stock turbos. You sure they are not Bs?

Gates311
03-09-2010, 06:42 PM
Kelford As. Are thos not the stage one's. Ment fr stock turbos. You sure they are not Bs?
A's.