Well guys, I was taking my car out of the driveway today and right when I put it 1st gear and was letting the clutch go my clutch "popped" and my car stalled. Now, the car does start but the clutch pedal basically is stuck on the floor unless I pull it myself.

Any ideas to what the problem can be?? And a fix??

Thanks.

sry wrong thing

I have been looking around in the forums and I haven't found any specific's on it. I have seen AMS put out their ad for the clutch line and that's about it.

Look up MASTER CLYINDER FAILURE
There have been a few of these I believe

master cylinder fail

master cylinder fail

+1

Do you have an aftermarket clutch?

+1

Do you have an aftermarket clutch?

I have a twin disc exedy + ams clutch line + reinforcement ring.

I have a twin disc exedy + ams clutch line + reinforcement ring.

I think he was saying +1 for your comment but asking the OP if he had an aftermarket clutch lol

I think he was saying +1 for your comment but asking the OP if he had an aftermarket clutch lol

That would make sense.

Yes I do, I have a ACT 6-puck installed about 9 months ago.

Yes I do, I have a ACT 6-puck installed about 9 months ago.

ACT has had problems with the master cylinder failing compaired to Exedy, from what I've seen. I think it's the 6-puck.

Yeah me too, I really didn't want a 6-puck but when I bought it from e-bay it didn't say it was a 6-puck and I was really pissed but I installed it anyways since I had been waiting a long time for a new clutch. It's stiff as hell and sometimes I have some pain in my ankle from shifting with is so much.

Yes I do, I have a ACT 6-puck installed about 9 months ago.

Then I am 99.9% sure if you did that without buying a reinforcement ring its your master that gave out.
SO you will need a new one plus the ring from AMS to get up and running again.
Also if you can it would be great if you could start a new thread once you verify that this is in fact the issue. Get some pictures and make a write up on how many miles you had on your car with the new clutch, how you drive (Stuff like any sanctioned racing you may do or aggressive daily driving). Type of tranny fluid used if other than stock. Just all the specifics for your issue so others in the same situation can relate and learn from this.

Maybe if you talk to AMS and let them know you will put this info out there they may even discount the parts for you.

that sucks man. Let us know

I think he was saying +1 for your comment but asking the OP if he had an aftermarket clutch lol

:coffee:

Then I am 99.9% sure if you did that without buying a reinforcement ring its your master that gave out.
SO you will need a new one plus the ring from AMS to get up and running again.
Also if you can it would be great if you could start a new thread once you verify that this is in fact the issue. Get some pictures and make a write up on how many miles you had on your car with the new clutch, how you drive (Stuff like any sanctioned racing you may do or aggressive daily driving). Type of tranny fluid used if other than stock. Just all the specifics for your issue so others in the same situation can relate and learn from this.

Maybe if you talk to AMS and let them know you will put this info out there they may even discount the parts for you.

The AMS ring isn't for making the stock MC work with aftermarket clutches. Its to help you limp home if it does break. That's what I was told.

Given that multiple people have broken their MC with the ring it's probably not a good idea for him to buy one expecting it to fix his problems.

What you should do is get a IX MC.

Yes. It is my understanding also that it helps you get home. Its not an upgraded MC so dont think thats gonna keep it from braking

The AMS ring isn't for making the stock MC work with aftermarket clutches. Its to help you limp home if it does break. That's what I was told.

Given that multiple people have broken their MC with the ring it's probably not a good idea for him to buy one expecting it to fix his problems.

What you should do is get a IX MC.

The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement Ring strengthens the factory unit from splitting apart. We have found that the plastic master cylinder in the EVO X can break into two pieces under even regular driving conditions. This becomes even more of a problem when an aftermarket clutch is used due to the added pedal pressure. This ring goes around the master cylinder and clamps it tightly together to ensure it will never split in two again!

Features


Strengthens factory clutch master cylinder
Laser etched AMS logoKit Includes


Reinforcement Ring
O ring
Snap ringSpecifications


6061 aluminumApplications


Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 10

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/AMS-Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-X-Clutch-Master-Cylinder-Reinforcement-Ring.html

*This cannot be used to repair a broken master cylinder.

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/AMS-Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-X-Clutch-Master-Cylinder-Reinforcement-Ring.html

Right, but people have been breaking them on the ring. I asked AMS about this, they said what I wrote above. The ring doesn't stop the MC from being plastic crap, it help hold it together when it inevitably cracks.

Right, but people have been breaking them on the ring. I asked AMS about this, they said what I wrote above. The ring doesn't stop the MC from being plastic crap, it help hold it together when it inevitably cracks.

I guess I just haven't seen anything on that yet, but if thats the case AMS might want to kick back some refunds and change their description because the ways its written it sure looks like its to stop the problem and not repair it enough to go home.

I guess I just haven't seen anything on that yet, but if thats the case AMS might want to kick back some refunds and change their description because the ways its written it sure looks like its to stop the problem and not repair it enough to go home.


That's why I asked before I bought it :P Trying to figure out the whole IX MC conversion now.

Wow, good to know this after I've installed my ring. FUCK.

Then I am 99.9% sure if you did that without buying a reinforcement ring its your master that gave out.
SO you will need a new one plus the ring from AMS to get up and running again.
Also if you can it would be great if you could start a new thread once you verify that this is in fact the issue. Get some pictures and make a write up on how many miles you had on your car with the new clutch, how you drive (Stuff like any sanctioned racing you may do or aggressive daily driving). Type of tranny fluid used if other than stock. Just all the specifics for your issue so others in the same situation can relate and learn from this.

Maybe if you talk to AMS and let them know you will put this info out there they may even discount the parts for you.

Ok Hollywood_X, I'll try to update everybody and start a new post about it as soon as I get the car to a workshop (which would be tomorrow).

And also, like Daemonsadi said, the 9 master cylinder conversion to X seems to be a alternative to getting a 10 master cylinder. You have to trim it though and get it fabricated, which I don't know if the workshop that I'm going to does.

Yeah but is it really worth it to get it? is the IX so much better that ours? I have no exp. with other gen evos

Yes I do, I have a ACT 6-puck installed about 9 months ago.

Should have gotten the ams clutch master cylinder reinforcement ring.

And also, like Daemonsadi said, the 9 master cylinder conversion to X seems to be a alternative to getting a 10 master cylinder. You have to trim it though and get it fabricated, which I don't know if the workshop that I'm going to does.

Is there any diy for this?

Yeah but is it really worth it to get it? is the IX so much better that ours? I have no exp. with other gen evos

It's not made of plastic... so yes :)

Should have gotten the ams clutch master cylinder reinforcement ring.

Lol I take it you skipped a few posts

lol

Lol I take it you skipped a few posts

Yeah at that point I did. lol

Should have gotten the ams clutch master cylinder reinforcement ring.

Like others have said, the reinforcement ring does not help preventing a broken cylinder, it basically helps you get home if you're on the road driving. People have broken master cylinders with the ring on.

Well they told you before I did. lol.

Like others have said, the reinforcement ring does not help preventing a broken cylinder, it basically helps you get home if you're on the road driving. People have broken master cylinders with the ring on.

That's odd. I've had mine for around 4k miles or so now with the act 6puck. No issues.

That's odd. I've had mine for around 4k miles or so now with the act 6puck. No issues.

I'm running about 12k miles (ish) on mine without issue as well, same set up. I think maybe it is more driving style, possibly?

That aside, I do think that on this car, the Clutch MC is one of the weak points, without a doubt.

I'm running about 12k miles (ish) on mine without issue as well, same set up. I think maybe it is more driving style, possibly?

That aside, I do think that on this car, the Clutch MC is one of the weak points, without a doubt.

Well, I do have an aggressive driving style, but I have not launched the car more than twice on the clutch (the last one being about 4 months ago).

I just wonder how many people bought that part from AMS under false pretences.
Everything about the description plus what they have posted on the forums about it talk about prventing this issue. If I had one I would be looking for a refund about now.

Well, we need to get a set of instructions and parts to put on the 9 mc.

I could have swore I read AMS post saying that it will help you limp home when it fails. Ill have to do some looking. But I can understand your POV because of the description.

I could have swore I read AMS post saying that it will help you limp home when it fails. Ill have to do some looking. But I can understand your POV because of the description.

I think it stated that on one istalled to a cmc that is already cracked. May be wrong though. Does ANYONE have anything to help me get the 9 cmc installed?

http://forums.evolutionm.net/vendor-announcements/418886-ams-product-release-evolution-x-clutch-master-cylinder-reinforcement-ring.html#post7428386

Lets see what AMS's reply is and if anyone knows of where else this may be posted ask the same question so others don't purchase this part with any misconception.

Also here is a review from Ryan Gates about this and what he says;

And with the AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement ring installed, I'm not worried about the Master Cylinder anymore. Sweet http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:forums.evolutionm.net/get/images/smilies/beer05.gif

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-engine-turbo-drivetrain/426236-gates311-review-carbonetic-triple-carbon-clutch-ams-clutch-master-cylinder-ring.html

I believe he posted the same review on this site. Seems to be some issues with how they are portraying this part if its just for limping home.

Well guys here's an update:

I went to the auto shop today where I had my clutch installed from and not to my surprise (I guess I was expecting this) the shop got shut down and was for sale.

Now, another problem is their isn't another reputable shop around here (or one that I have heard of) that has any experience with evo's or subi's for that matter.

It is beginning to look like I might have to take my car to the stealership and get a 10 master cylinder installed (Since I have no choice at this time).

And, if I do that, I'm hoping I don't have my warranty voided (even if it is a crap).

Really frustrated right now.

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Well guys here's an update:

I went to the auto shop today where I had my clutch installed from and not to my surprise (I guess I was expecting this) the shop got shut down and was for sale.

Now, another problem is their isn't another reputable shop around here (or one that I have heard of) that has any experience with evo's or subi's for that matter.

It is beginning to look like I might have to take my car to the stealership and get a 10 master cylinder installed (Since I have no choice at this time).

And, if I do that, I'm hoping I don't have my warranty voided (even if it is a crap).

Really frustrated right now.

Feel bad for you.
Please note that if the stock cylinder fail, a stock replacement will only last you only a short period of time. I broke 3 units within 2 month period (the last one had the AMS ring) and I heard the same with another guy here.
Avoid making long distance trip in case you get stranded in the middle of nowhere.

Feel bad for you.
Please note that if the stock cylinder fail, a stock replacement will only last you only a short period of time. I broke 3 units within 2 month period (the last one had the AMS ring) and I heard the same with another guy here.
Avoid making long distance trip in case you get stranded in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah man, I understand. I talked to one dealership today and they seemed pretty cool about aftermarket parts and they said that they do install aftermarket parts and give me a warranty on it (which I was surprised to hear). But IDK what they are going to do about the warranty. When I take my car there, I'll update then.

This just happened to me. I thought it was a line that had broke, but i will go to the dealership and hopefully get it replaced, btw i have a 6-Puck HD-street disk from ACT.

ANother update guys:

Just went to the dealership and I find out that I need a new slave master cylinder and slave cylinder.

Now, they are charging me $550 for parts and labor.

Do you guys think that's a fair price? They are giving me a 1 year warranty with it also.

Yeah, all things considered, it's not too bad.

Any updates on the ring for Gates?