: sst oil cooler?


celica2evo
08-27-2009, 03:53 PM
I am really sick of the SLOW DOWN being shown on my heads up display!

the other day when I went to the track and attempted a 1/4 mile pass I moved about 40 feet then the slow down came on and the car wouldn't move! I looked like a real douche. (dino saw the vid he can vouch for me on that)

I know some of you guys out there have oil coolers for the sst I just want to know which is the best bang for my buck so I don't have this overheating problem anymore!
I know there are several different companies making these oil coolers, which one do any of you recommend and why?

thanks for the help guys!

weebles
08-27-2009, 03:57 PM
SSP front mount.

It's in a good location (won't get dirty in a hard to clean spot like the AMS one) It works in conjuction with the stock cooler and an additional pump so I also think it will out perform the AMS.

I think this cooler will be best for street car / casual racing.

LVSBB6
08-27-2009, 03:59 PM
HKS, its track proven to perform twice as good as OEM cooler:

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18309

weebles
08-27-2009, 04:06 PM
HKS, its track proven to perform twice as good as OEM cooler:

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18309

Is this available at any north american vendors yet? What is the cost?

LVSBB6
08-27-2009, 04:09 PM
You can get it through vendors from japan, approx 1200.

TheSin
08-27-2009, 04:13 PM
1200 in that case SSP front mount for sure.

Iconzx6r
08-27-2009, 04:18 PM
Doubt HKS should ever really be in the best bang for buck category.

weebles
08-27-2009, 04:20 PM
1200 in that case SSP front mount for sure.

What did the SSP front mount cost you?

TheSin
08-27-2009, 04:25 PM
He has a thread on the costs.

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17341

aevo86
08-27-2009, 04:43 PM
thats still a good chunk of change though.i ran at the track last night for the first time in my MR and i got the "slow down" bog and lost to a g35 because of it.i was babying it but was very dissappointed regardless.kind of embarassing. couldnt some one essentially make their own cooler or way of cooling for $1-$200?it cant be that hard right?

weebles
08-27-2009, 04:54 PM
thats still a good chunk of change though.i ran at the track last night for the first time in my MR and i got the "slow down" bog and lost to a g35 because of it.i was babying it but was very dissappointed regardless.kind of embarassing. couldnt some one essentially make their own cooler or way of cooling for $1-$200?it cant be that hard right?

Most diy projects consist of removing fog lights and adding a spal fan to the stock cooler. It will prevent the slow down message at the track :)

Enzal
08-27-2009, 05:03 PM
I don't think you could do an effective cooler for that price. The core items that come with the SSP kit re basically what you will need. I would start with that list and go shopping and see what you can do. Myself I would almost save up for the SSP just for the customer service they have. If I had gone for an MR the transmission is where I would start my modding fiasco. I think the warning light in general is a complete cop-out from Mitsu. Lets put a huge amount of time and effort into designing this transmission and protect it with a warning light.

TheSin
08-27-2009, 05:04 PM
thats still a good chunk of change though.i ran at the track last night for the first time in my MR and i got the "slow down" bog and lost to a g35 because of it.i was babying it but was very dissappointed regardless.kind of embarassing. couldnt some one essentially make their own cooler or way of cooling for $1-$200?it cant be that hard right?

you can but the way coolers work is like added tons of distance from the heat source, without replacing the cooler you aren't increasing that distance, adding a fan will help and more air to the cooler as well, but without out a more efficient or larger cooler you aren't going to do enough I think. I'd like to eventually do the same setup as Steel with the AMS OEM replacement and the SSP front mount. But I know that setup will be overkill but I'd rather have too much then not enough and since i"m going to use thermostatic controls fort he fans I'm not to worried about being too cool either.

The fact are that the stock cooler is just too small, no idea why Mitsu built it sooo small, I'd say bang for the buck and a quick solution is the AMS at 500, though I'd do the SSP front mount first since it's adding not replacing so you are getting more for your money. You are adding all of it not just the extra if that makes sense.

TitaniumEvo
08-27-2009, 05:38 PM
I don't understand what's so hard about adding a cooler and why this kit is so expensive. When I had my twin turbo g35 automatic, we added a B&M cooler that I bought for $200, some piping, and that was the end of it. Final cost was about $500 with labor included.

verkion
08-27-2009, 05:57 PM
gunzo has a DIY somewhere here...

irmerm
08-27-2009, 05:58 PM
I would try going with a fan on the stock cooler first. It's easy enough and cheap too, so might be worth a shot. If that's not enough you can always upgrade to one of the expensive kits.

voodooman79
08-27-2009, 06:14 PM
well, i don't know if you've heard, but the world's most powerful MR uses SSP. :neener:
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14228

TitaniumEvo
08-27-2009, 06:23 PM
well, i don't know if you've heard, but the world's most powerful MR uses SSP. :neener:
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14228

...not yet

xMR
08-27-2009, 06:37 PM
I just want to be able to complete a 1hr lapping session without overheating. What do guys think would be the best for that? I already removed my foglights and it still overheats in about 15 minutes in SS Auto mode. I have heard it won't overheat in just Sport Auto. Anyone confirm that? I am going to give it a shot at a lapping day on the 4th.

celica2evo
08-27-2009, 07:02 PM
this is just redicilous MAP wants $1666 for their sst oil cooling kit!
anyone else find it cheaper than this?
here is where I found it.

http://www.maperformance.com/south-side-performance-sst-transmission-cooler-kit-mitsubishi-evo-x-ssp-sst-trans-cooler-evox.html

boostsaves
08-27-2009, 07:23 PM
this is just redicilous MAP wants $1666 for their sst oil cooling kit!
anyone else find it cheaper than this?
here is where I found it.

http://www.maperformance.com/south-side-performance-sst-transmission-cooler-kit-mitsubishi-evo-x-ssp-sst-trans-cooler-evox.html

Did you see that includes the Deep sump billet pan? That is also the rear mounted kit. $1651.68 $951 for the cooler, and $700.58 for the pan

celica2evo
08-27-2009, 07:35 PM
where did you find any detail on this.
there really is no description just a picture and a price

boostsaves
08-27-2009, 07:39 PM
where did you find any detail on this.
there really is no description just a picture and a price

Back on post number 9 in this exact thread sin posted a link for ssp's pricing.
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17341

Based on the picture i determined that these were the components for sale.

celica2evo
08-27-2009, 08:44 PM
does anyone out there actually have this upgrade installed?
I know thesin does but he hasn't driven his car since he has put this stuff on.
I would like to know from someone who tracks their car if this is worth buying or do you still get the slow down BS

boostsaves
08-27-2009, 08:47 PM
does anyone out there actually have this upgrade installed?
I know thesin does but he hasn't driven his car since he has put this stuff on.
I would like to know from someone who tracks their car if this is worth buying or do you still get the slow down BS

I have plenty of posts about my use with the sst cooler. I have never gotten the slow down msg ever since i did the work.

I was the first non shop car to have the kit. I've had it running since mid may. Plenty of drag passes, and spirited driving.

celica2evo
08-27-2009, 08:50 PM
have you taken your car on the track yet or done any launches since the install?
For daily driving, even hard daily driving, i find the stock to be adequate enough, its just launching where I have the overheating problems.

boostsaves
08-27-2009, 08:56 PM
have you taken your car on the track yet or done any launches since the install?
For daily driving, even hard daily driving, i find the stock to be adequate enough, its just launching where I have the overheating problems.

I have not been on the "track" yet, but I have about 20 launches with the new cooler setup at the drag strip. The place where the cooler really shines at is the Track. we have noticed huge cooling numbers when daily driven, and the track would be no different.

I have a video of me standing on the Sport launch feature for about 10-12 seconds while a mustang learns how to stage.

TheSin
08-27-2009, 09:28 PM
does anyone out there actually have this upgrade installed?
I know thesin does but he hasn't driven his car since he has put this stuff on.
I would like to know from someone who tracks their car if this is worth buying or do you still get the slow down BS

steelbahamut has this kit installed and running for some time there are like 2-3 thread of MRs with this installed now.

steelbahamut
08-27-2009, 09:43 PM
Like boost I have around 20 launches since installing the SSP cooler, and over 60 launches in total since ive had the car. No slow down issues or anything ever. Installing the trans temp gauge was a big eye opener, as I had no way to monitor temps beforehand and learned a lot about what will and will not cause things to heat up.
I have only been able to make it to the track once this summer, and that was before I installed the SSP upgrades. With any luck ill be able to make it out again before the snow hits and post some feedback.

celica2evo
08-28-2009, 07:50 PM
I have not been on the "track" yet, but I have about 20 launches with the new cooler setup at the drag strip. The place where the cooler really shines at is the Track. we have noticed huge cooling numbers when daily driven, and the track would be no different.

I have a video of me standing on the Sport launch feature for about 10-12 seconds while a mustang learns how to stage.

cool man thanks for the help,
that is the exact info I was looking for!
looks like I found my next mod!

GO ON 3
08-28-2009, 08:00 PM
this is just redicilous MAP wants $1666 for their sst oil cooling kit!
anyone else find it cheaper than this?
here is where I found it.

http://www.maperformance.com/south-side-performance-sst-transmission-cooler-kit-mitsubishi-evo-x-ssp-sst-trans-cooler-evox.html


AMS Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X MR/Ralliart Transmission Cooler Kit $499.95


http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/images/T/AMS_Performance_Evolution_X_Oil_Cooler_800.jpg

The AMS EVO X MR/Ralliart SST Transmission oil cooler kit is the first of its kind for the SST transmission. Many SST owners know all too well the problems plagued with the 6 speed dual clutch automatic transmission in the EVO X MR and Ralliart. Overheating is a common occurrence when driven hard. The AMS Trans. cooler helps to prevent that by using a high quality larger capacity heat exchanger with a fan that pulls air through the core the entire time the car is running. This helps to keep transmission temperatures in check and keep that pesky “slow down” light on the dash from coming on so often.


also get that damn FMIC :D

DynastyX
08-28-2009, 08:42 PM
Relocate your BOV so every time you go CHAPISHHH it shoots cold air onto your tranny cooler.

steelbahamut
08-28-2009, 11:35 PM
I have the AMS trans cooler as well, it is a very nice unit but performance wise if you can only get one id get the SSP, it is vastly superior and runs standalone from the workings of the SST unlike the AMS unit.

xMR
09-08-2009, 11:18 PM
I just want to be able to complete a 1hr lapping session without overheating. What do guys think would be the best for that? I already removed my foglights and it still overheats in about 15 minutes in SS Auto mode. I have heard it won't overheat in just Sport Auto. Anyone confirm that? I am going to give it a shot at a lapping day on the 4th.

Confirmed! It doesn't overheat in Auto Sport Mode. I put 83 laps (1.2 mile track, 80 degrees outside) on my car Friday in Auto Sport mode without a single overheat "Slow Down" warning or limp mode. 10-12 minutes in Auto S-Sport Mode put it right into "Slow Down" limp mode.

smgevo
09-09-2009, 04:50 AM
Same track, same day in Auto/Sport vs. Auto/SuperSport?
Anyone care to tackle this?

TitaniumEvo
09-09-2009, 05:24 AM
interesting...the AMS one doesn't use a pump, whereas the SSP one does.

boostsaves
09-09-2009, 06:30 AM
interesting...the AMS one doesn't use a pump, whereas the SSP one does.

Cause the ams unit is a stock replacement core, and uses the factory one.

Freebs
09-09-2009, 06:50 AM
how hard are you guys running on the 1/4mile to get the slow down message? or how long between runs?

Because I have run my MR HARD! and get about 2-3 runs every hour down the track for 4 hours with very little shut down time since these things are hard to roll and I have never gotten the slow down message. I might just throw a fan on the stock cooler just to keep things cooler since I can imagine they are still getting pretty warm.

xMR
09-09-2009, 06:57 AM
Same track, same day in Auto/Sport vs. Auto/SuperSport?
Anyone care to tackle this?

Yep.

My friend was also there with his MR. He tried manual S-Sport and it still overheated. He wasn't lifting throttle on shifts though, which might have made a difference. He also drove the whole day (other than the S-Sport testing) in Auto Sport with no overheat or "slow down" issues.

I think it might have to do with how much more engine braking there is in S-Sport mode causing more heat.

LVSBB6
09-11-2009, 05:10 AM
Interesting observation.

So you were in Auto Sport mode all the time? Would Manual Sport or Manual S-Sport makes a difference?

Yep.

My friend was also there with his MR. He tried manual S-Sport and it still overheated. He wasn't lifting throttle on shifts though, which might have made a difference. He also drove the whole day (other than the S-Sport testing) in Auto Sport with no overheat or "slow down" issues.

I think it might have to do with how much more engine braking there is in S-Sport mode causing more heat.

celica2evo
09-11-2009, 05:08 PM
how hard are you guys running on the 1/4mile to get the slow down message? or how long between runs?

Because I have run my MR HARD! and get about 2-3 runs every hour down the track for 4 hours with very little shut down time since these things are hard to roll and I have never gotten the slow down message. I might just throw a fan on the stock cooler just to keep things cooler since I can imagine they are still getting pretty warm.


I am going from around a 5k launch when I get my slow down message!

those of you with a trans temp gauge, is there any way to install one on the stock pan with out drilling and tapping?

TheSin
09-11-2009, 05:32 PM
no, your only option is in the filter line if you don't want to drill and tap which I wouldn't recommend on the stock pan anyhow since it's plastic.

kozmic27
09-13-2009, 10:48 AM
I am going from around a 5k launch when I get my slow down message!

those of you with a trans temp gauge, is there any way to install one on the stock pan with out drilling and tapping?

If you are launching with a standard NHRA style tree, you probably won't get the msg. At least I havent with the tree. I launch it as hard as it will let me.