: Are these times on par for the Evo X MR with Stage 1 AP tune?


Freebs
09-01-2009, 06:08 AM
I am just wondering if these times seem slow? considering I have heard stock Evo X's are running the same times...

I am running the Cobb Stage 1+SF 93 tune (94 actually in the tank) on my MR and I can only get a best of 13.569 and average about 13.767 @ 101.615mph

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60' 2.124
330' 5.779
1/8th mile 8.775
1/8th mile mph 82.810
1000' 11.372
1/4 mile 13.569
1/4 mile mph 102.360

The track is 1,250 meters above sea level and the temp was 15 degrees C (59 F) and not sure what the humidity was but I cant imagine much as it is bone dry up here.

I had the tracktion control right off, S-sport, Auto mode, tarmac and used the launch control

boostsaves
09-01-2009, 06:23 AM
I am just wondering if these times seem slow? considering I have heard stock Evo X's are running the same times...

I am running the Cobb Stage 1+SF 93 tune (94 actually in the tank) on my MR and I can only get a best of 13.569 and average about 13.767 @ 101.615mph

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60' 2.124
330' 5.779
1/8th mile 8.775
1/8th mile mph 82.810
1000' 11.372
1/4 mile 13.569
1/4 mile mph 102.360

The track is 1,250 meters above sea level and the temp was 15 degrees C (59 F) and not sure what the humidity was but I cant imagine much as it is bone dry up here.

I had the traction control right off, S-sport, Auto mode, tarmac and used the launch control

The 60ft needs improvement, but it's tough to get a good 60 ft with the MR at the strip. Try launching in snow mode. That has always given me a lower 60ft. Your above sea level track is playing with your numbers a tad, but it's not too drastic.

Your car is ballpark what MR's will do at the strip with your mods. Cobb stage one is a nice tune, but not where your car could be with a pro tune. Don't compare your car to a GSR, and the times they get. When at the strip they are a totally different animal.

Freebs
09-01-2009, 06:35 AM
I heard Gravel was the better one to launch in? I will have to try snow though.

Also with a Pro tune am I able to get rid of some of the lag when launching? I mean its not as bad when you set the launch control but even than its lagging as if the tranny is loading up even though you have already loaded it up by holding the brakes and pushing the gas...

boostsaves
09-01-2009, 06:39 AM
I heard Gravel was the better one to launch in? I will have to try snow though.

Also with a Pro tune am I able to get rid of some of the lag when launching? I mean its not as bad when you set the launch control but even than its lagging as if the tranny is loading up even though you have already loaded it up by holding the brakes and pushing the gas...

Snow has been better for me YMMV.

You need to release it on the second yellow at the track so you can leave lag free at the green light. Low end lag is something your going to have to deal with. More power will fix that eventually.

When I ran my car I didin't leave the line hard untill I had about 340 ish whp. I could cut a High 1.7 which isn't that great, but good for an MR

Freebs
09-01-2009, 06:51 AM
Snow has been better for me YMMV.

You need to release it on the second yellow at the track so you can leave lag free at the green light. Low end lag is something your going to have to deal with. More power will fix that eventually.

When I ran my car I didin't leave the line hard untill I had about 340 ish whp. I could cut a High 1.7 which isn't that great, but good for an MR


So you let off the brake at the 2nd yellow?

Yea I know there will be low end turbo lag but I just mean the famous SST lag is still there even when launched.

what all did have you put on for 340ish whp? and did you get it pro tuned or use the Cobb AP? and how did the SST react with that?

All I plan on doing with my MR is
- intake (done)
- turbo back exhaust
- Intercooler and hard pipes
- Have it dyno tuned

not sure what I will make for power though.

ahah and last question since your running the MR too.. whats your best time/mph at the track?

boostsaves
09-01-2009, 07:00 AM
So you let off the brake at the 2nd yellow?

Yea I know there will be low end turbo lag but I just mean the famous SST lag is still there even when launched.

what all did have you put on for 340ish whp? and did you get it pro tuned or use the Cobb AP? and how did the SST react with that?

All I plan on doing with my MR is
- intake (done)
- turbo back exhaust
- Intercooler and hard pipes
- Have it dyno tuned

not sure what I will make for power though.

ahah and last question since your running the MR too.. whats your best time/mph at the track?

My drag threads can be found here:
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17682
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14694

The first thread is with all the new parts installed. My 60ft's have gotten worse since the Fp Red has gone in, but i only got 2 runs in. I still need to dial in the new setup.

The second thread is with all Boltons, on stock turbo. My mods are listed in the description on the you tube videos. I had Ecutek first, then went to cobb ap for mult maps, then back to ecutek, and finally switching to Hks F-CON Vpro lol:confused2:

Based on the mods you have listed, and depending on the company they come from, you should be somewhere close to my numbers on a dynojet 424x, Granted I have trans cooling which I would highly recommend at that power level.

Jackygor
09-01-2009, 07:06 AM
do you think its possible to do mid 12 on stock set up on the MR? that is my goal, not sure if its possible.

boostsaves
09-01-2009, 07:08 AM
do you think its possible to do mid 12 on stock set up on the MR? that is my goal, not sure if its possible.

What do you mean stock setup? If you want to run mid 12's unless you have a factory freak your going to need all the boltons, and a good tune.

Freebs
09-01-2009, 07:30 AM
What do you mean stock setup? If you want to run mid 12's unless you have a factory freak your going to need all the boltons, and a good tune.


What did your buddy have the car set at for the 12.6 run? like did he have it in auto mode or did he use the flappies?

boostsaves
09-01-2009, 07:34 AM
What did your buddy have the car set at for the 12.6 run? like did he have it in auto mode or did he use the flappies?

This is my car, and i was driving it lol The stig reference is a joke.

Car was driven in S-Sport auto.

Jackygor
09-01-2009, 07:47 AM
What do you mean stock setup? If you want to run mid 12's unless you have a factory freak your going to need all the boltons, and a good tune.

sorry, I mean with full bolt on with no turbo or cam :P

boostsaves
09-01-2009, 07:51 AM
sorry, I mean with full bolt on with no turbo or cam :P

Yup!

Freebs
09-01-2009, 08:31 AM
This is my car, and i was driving it lol The stig reference is a joke.

Car was driven in S-Sport auto.

ahaha wow did not catch that ahah... i was thinking you were refering to your buddy as the stig ahah..

well this friday I will head to the track and see if I can better my times. So right when you see the second yellow you are letting off the brake. How long do you let the engine sit and rev for when you go to launch? Because when I go to set the launch I can hear the B.O.V go off right when it revs up to 5500 or what ever rpm it hits and than about a second after that is when I am letting off the brakes and taking off so I dont know if I am not holding it long enough or what.

And I will try it in snow mode and see what that does for me.

Also are you running the factory set 32psi in the tires? I mean I dont see why there would be any need to change it since I am not spining the tires or anything.

ahaha as much as I love my Evo... my Z06 is so much easier to race... none of these settings and launch controls etc... I just pull up to the line, rev it up to around 2600rpm and ride the clutch out not to fast but not to slow and hold on for a quick 10 second ride...

boostsaves
09-01-2009, 09:02 AM
ahaha wow did not catch that ahah... i was thinking you were refering to your buddy as the stig ahah..

well this friday I will head to the track and see if I can better my times. So right when you see the second yellow you are letting off the brake. How long do you let the engine sit and rev for when you go to launch? Because when I go to set the launch I can hear the B.O.V go off right when it revs up to 5500 or what ever rpm it hits and than about a second after that is when I am letting off the brakes and taking off so I don't know if I am not holding it long enough or what.

And I will try it in snow mode and see what that does for me.

Also are you running the factory set 32psi in the tires? I mean I don't see why there would be any need to change it since I am not spinning the tires or anything.

ahaha as much as I love my Evo... my Z06 is so much easier to race... none of these settings and launch controls etc... I just pull up to the line, rev it up to around 2600rpm and ride the clutch out not to fast but not to slow and hold on for a quick 10 second ride...


Na, I have the Simpson complete suit, so only a few people understand the joke.

You should always let go during the last yellow light. That way you can cut a perfect light. In test and tune it does not matter, but I always seek perfection, so I like to practice.

I just do a few seconds, A good rule of thumb for me when sitting in launch mode is to only do the procedure when i see both driver staging lights lit. That way i have a few seconds to relax and focus.

The SST is designed to slip the clutch out a little when you use the S-Sport launch feature. That's why you feel the delay at 5500rpm.

I use stock tire pressure which like you said is around 32 psi. You will Decrease your E.T., but lower your mph in the MR when you manipulate the tire pressure.

Yea i bet the vette is a blast to drive, Easy too. Gas slip clutch and hold on for the ride.

My MR feels boring when I drive down the track. Maybe I should read a book while going down the 1/4:bowlol:

celica2evo
09-01-2009, 01:01 PM
those times are not bad for the MR.
like boostsaves said you should work on getting that 60" down and that will do a lot for you!
I ran a 13.205 @104.3 with a cone filter, turbo back, and a conservative tune flashed in.
since then I have gotten the ETS intake and UICP, and waiting on their 4" core, hopefully when this comes i'll be in the upper 12's.

Freebs
09-01-2009, 07:28 PM
those times are not bad for the MR.
like boostsaves said you should work on getting that 60" down and that will do a lot for you!
I ran a 13.205 @104.3 with a cone filter, turbo back, and a conservative tune flashed in.
since then I have gotten the ETS intake and UICP, and waiting on their 4" core, hopefully when this comes i'll be in the upper 12's.


What elevation is your track at?

I would be happy running a 13.2 - 13.3 with just my intake and Stage 1 AP tune but I dont know if I will be able to at this elevation :(

GO ON 3
09-01-2009, 07:34 PM
Nb run but need a better 60' and free some power up with boltons

Freebs
09-06-2009, 10:17 AM
well I went back to the track and forgot all night about changing it to gravel mode and I was running 13.5's with 2.1s for my 60' all night. Than I switched to gravel mode and that run I pulled a 2.0 for my 60' and a 13.4 @100mph... i still dont understand how or why it runs quicker in gravel mode but it did.. I know it has a 13.3 in it.. which I would be happy for only having cobb stage 1+ intake...