: 08 Evo X SST FQ 300 uneven acceleration
ikaney 09-14-2009, 02:34 PM I'm from the UK and a few weeks ago I purchased (what I thought) was a lovely Evo X 08. Everything seemed fine until a holiday trip (around 400 miles round trip) at which time when I returned home the engine wasn't sounding right. Couldn't put a finger on it but it certainly didn't sound normal.
After leaving the vehicle till the next day and proceeding to drive it I began to notice something quite strange, as I accelerate at a steady rate (foot fixed at a certain position) the RPM needle seems to 'ramp' up in stages, it's not an even progression till I change gear. This can be when driving sedately or when accelerating onto a motorway. I'm near 100% positive this behaviour did not exist when I first got the car.
I took it to my nearest Mitsubishi dealer and they looked at it for 20 minutes or so and came back and told me it's by design, these SST gearboxes are new, my car had the latest version software and to live with it.
I decided to get a second opinion from another dealer. I took the technician with me and he agreed he could see what was going on, however their diagnostic machine was broken (nice of them to tell me _after_ the drive!) and again they seemed to think it was probably normal. At first I thought the RPM needle might be just acting strangely, however the engine note does seem to 'ramp' up with the needle.
So the question is, am I going crazy or is there something not quite right?
(I've seen some other threads mentioning a similar type of behaviour and somebody mentions the car running too rich and a dealer will correct it...)
boostsaves 09-14-2009, 02:45 PM If you have a camera take some footage that you could upload to youtube, and i will take a look for you.
If you don't have a CEL, or your maf isn't bad then it sounds like normal.
hollywood_X 09-14-2009, 02:55 PM That almost sounds like you clutch is slipping
boostsaves 09-14-2009, 02:56 PM That almost sounds like you clutch is slipping
Anytime there is any electronic problem the SST will appear like it's slipping.
ikaney 09-14-2009, 03:09 PM Sorry, forgot to mention it's stock parts, nothing has been altered on it.
boostsaves: I'll see if I can record the RPM needle this evening as I'm driivng and get it posted for you to take a look at. I'm just going mad trying to recall if it's always done it... I'm a picky bugger with new purchases so I'd imagine I would have noticed!
hollywood_X: Slipping? I hear the term a lot but I wouldn't be able to tell you if it was! This is my first auto gearbox, coming from a manual it's all a bit weird!
Thanks to all for taking the time to respond.
ak47m203 09-14-2009, 03:32 PM paging gunzo.. he's really good, im not saying others are not. vidz is a must to see.
razorlab 09-14-2009, 06:12 PM Yup the SST trans can do that. I have many logs of this with the RPM not following a linear ramp up. It starts doing it when it gets really hot (like after a bunch of dyno pulls) or depending on the power ramp on.
It's the clutch disks engaging/disengaging.
I haven't really seen it with normal driving.
dcasandman 09-14-2009, 06:16 PM Interested subscribed. Would like to see video also.
ikaney 09-14-2009, 07:41 PM Ok, my first attempt at a Youtube upload and first video with my iPhone 3GS, be gentle!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxGJ3vFLZnQ
Jackygor 09-14-2009, 09:40 PM So I assume that the throttle position was consistent, and the problem here is that the RPM goes up and stops then goes up again?
ikaney 09-14-2009, 09:44 PM Should have explained, yes my foot is on the throttle in the same position and the RPMs don't smoothly go up. Cheers :)
Jackygor 09-14-2009, 09:48 PM Should have explained, yes my foot is on the throttle in the same position and the RPMs don't smoothly go up. Cheers :)
That IS odd...I have never had that problem happened to me, at least I haven't observed such a problem. I am sure gunzo can chime in.
ak47m203 09-15-2009, 12:09 AM i compare it to the other videos, and your right it's going up but choppy, installment. try doing it a bit harder. from 2000rpm to 3000rpm. it chops 5 times. wait for gunzo to chime it. what gas did you use. make sure you did not use a lower octane.what are the upgared part of fq 300 comapre to stockers. like do you have hks drop in filters?
your.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxGJ3vFLZnQ
others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRCl-Z2bbLQ
ikaney 09-15-2009, 09:25 AM i compare it to the other videos, and your right it's going up but choppy, installment. try doing it a bit harder. from 2000rpm to 3000rpm. it chops 5 times. wait for gunzo to chime it. what gas did you use. make sure you did not use a lower octane.what are the upgared part of fq 300 comapre to stockers. like do you have hks drop in filters?
Even pushing harder the acceleration is uneven, on motorway slip roads it's quite irritating. I use Shell V-Power (99 oct) and I haven't performed any upgrades from the stock parts (standard GSR SST FQ-300).
on2it 09-15-2009, 10:57 AM it quite possibly could be the quality of gas. you did mention that you noticed it on your travels.. did you notice it right after fueling up somewhere new?
ak47m203 09-15-2009, 12:54 PM how about those fuel realy issues, map sensor. the dealer shouls fix this. it's not normal. mine is a blast once it gets to 2nd gear all the way up. now go back to any dealer drive it with them and then drive another sst to compare. goodluck. call the coorporate too.
ikaney 09-15-2009, 03:58 PM on2it: I've only ever put Shell V-Power into the car and it's been like this for a few weeks now, I would have thought a bad batch of petrol would have flushed through my now (unless it's broke something along the way!)
Both dealers I've taken it to (dealer network around my area is shocking) have stated it's as it should be, however I'm not convinced due to me not noticing it when I first bought it (I'm a picky sod so I would of!). One of the engineers stated he'd taken two SSTs out (mine and another) and they 'seemed' the same but couldn't confirm until he hooked it to the computer (which was broken). However, I wasn't too impressed when he came flying into the garage car park tyres screeching... Nobody seems interested in letting me drive another SST to compare to mine either since they see nothing wrong.
ak47m203: You mention to call corporate? In what way?
irmerm 09-15-2009, 04:07 PM ak47m203: You mention to call corporate? In what way?
Look in the owners manual for a phone number to mitsubishi customer service
ikaney 09-15-2009, 04:22 PM irmerm: Cheers, I thought there might have been a secret number or something ;)
gunzo 09-18-2009, 12:23 PM This is how my car and probably most of the SSTs accelerate ..
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/th_Video000-1.jpg (http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/?action=view¤t=Video000-1.flv)
You're not the only one that has this issue ..
I've seen this .. hunting rpms when you're cruising .. jerking all the way when you're accelerating .. rpm goes up fast but speeds never go up as fat etc ..
Do this test for me please .. select SSport and see if you have this same issue ??
if it goes away it can be fixed .. but something is wrong to warrant a software fix ..
Check the map sensor and the airflow sensor (clean it if you need) .. these 2 are usually the biggest culplrits
ikaney 09-18-2009, 02:48 PM My word, S-Sport mode gets rid of the issue in full auto and semi-auto modes!
Thank you SO much! So how can the problem be fixed? Is it sensor related like you mention, or software?
gunzo 09-18-2009, 03:12 PM My word, S-Sport mode gets rid of the issue in full auto and semi-auto modes!
Thank you SO much! So how can the problem be fixed? Is it sensor related like you mention, or software?
Sensors ;) .. I hope :D
use this to prove to the dealer there is something wrong with the car .. you're welcome to use my vid to prove to them too :D
SSport gets rid of alot of these issues because SSport doesn't slip the clutches in gently .. it just engages :p
Sensors because the engine has to go to a pre determine torque/power as the clutches gently engages in other modes .. once these sensors go out of whack .. this is what you get
My worry is damaged clutches, springs or clogged valvebodies can also have similiar symptoms :(
Change the SST filter to see if it improves the situation if the sensor suggestion doesn't work ..
ikaney 09-20-2009, 05:17 PM Thank you for your help. A decent dealer is now looking into the issue with your advice and hopefully I'll have a 100% healthy Evo X again!
Cheers.
on2it 09-21-2009, 12:31 PM great advice as usual Gunzo!
ikaney 09-23-2009, 09:59 PM Thank you for all of your help!
ikaney 10-12-2009, 02:01 PM Ok, after many sleepless nights wondering whether to keep the car or not I decided to attempt to try and get the problem sorted, it's a great car otherwise.
I eventually ended up with Mitsubishi UK involved (TSR case opened) and a reasonably local garage took my vehicle and investigated the problem. They referred it to Mitsubishi UK and they decided they wanted the ECU packing up and sending to them for reflashing or something along those lines it seems.
Well, a week later and I finally pick the car up and guess what, it's exactly the same! They don't seem interested in the items gunzo mentioned as possible problem areas and so I'm now left exactly where I was, minus several days annual leave, a shed load of petrol money going back and forth and 70 pounds in hire care insurance charges. I know Evo's are expensive to run but this is taking the ****!
What I'd love to know, from people who haven't had their spirit crushed by crap customer service, is have I basically bought a lemon of a car and should I get rid as quickly as possible? Or should I persist with the dealer or Mitsubishi to get this sorted?
I'm just getting a gut feeling this isn't meant to be...
MicMcKee 10-12-2009, 02:14 PM That's just weird...
But it accelerates as normal?
ikaney 10-12-2009, 02:18 PM It accelerates, but instead of smoothly raising it ramps up in stages, spurt of acceleration, wait a moment, bit more, etc. As gunzo got me to test, it only does it in Normal and Sport modes, no nonsense in S-Sport.
A shame none of the garages are entertaining gunzo's suggestions, I'm pretty much certain he's right...
DBL R 10-12-2009, 03:12 PM I have this feeling that once I start modding my MR me and Gunzo will be messaging a lot, most likely he'll end up with some of my green due to help/tuning/software purposes haha
ikaney, I will see if my car does this on the way home. So far I didn't notice any acceleration problems in normal or sport mode. Have you tried a Cobb App to see if the problem persists? What did you drive before the X?
ak47m203 10-12-2009, 03:24 PM if you have a cobb ap center in your area, hopefully ask them if they can fix it...i m ean they can guarranty fixed... and buy their ap to flash it.
ikaney 10-12-2009, 05:09 PM Cyp: Thanks for trying that out for me, it's appreciated :)
I haven't got any tuning gear and of course being in the UK, tuners for Evo's seem few and far between in my area. I checked the Cobb Tuning web site and they only have GTR tuners in the UK it seems.
My previous car was a Honda Integra Type-R, how I wish I hadn't of sold it :(
ak47m203 10-12-2009, 06:15 PM Cyp: Thanks for trying that out for me, it's appreciated :)
I haven't got any tuning gear and of course being in the UK, tuners for Evo's seem few and far between in my area. I checked the Cobb Tuning web site and they only have GTR tuners in the UK it seems.
My previous car was a Honda Integra Type-R, how I wish I hadn't of sold it :(
are you far from norris designs... call them. they are really good. but not sure if they have evo x as of now. i will do a vidz tom. to compare. how fast do you think your car go to 60mils?
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duncanjerry 10-12-2009, 10:31 PM My previous car was a Honda Integra Type-R, how I wish I hadn't of sold it
Thats funny my previous car was a 01 type-r. Don't worry about your current issues, stick with the evo x and you will soon see how supierior of a car it is.. When you first purchase the x it's a little rough around the edges===poor stock tune. Get the bugs worked out and you'll be very happy... I paid 29k and dumped about 8k into it and now I can walk my brothers GTR.
ikaney, I watched my speedometer and didn't notice any uneven acceleration. And If I missed it, well, at least throttle response and the feel of acceleration didn't feel uneven. Felt smooth the whole time. I have had my car for a year as of this month. Throughout the year, I have been comparing my X to my Z and feeling the Z was more quality of a car. However, the X is growing on me and I'm starting to enjoy the X more. I think I will love my X more once its paid off. That way I can customize it to my liking. It has lots of potential.
McCoy 10-13-2009, 01:14 AM Cyp: Thanks for trying that out for me, it's appreciated :)
I haven't got any tuning gear and of course being in the UK, tuners for Evo's seem few and far between in my area. I checked the Cobb Tuning web site and they only have GTR tuners in the UK it seems.
My previous car was a Honda Integra Type-R, how I wish I hadn't of sold it :(
The UK is huge on tuning with plenty of tuners right across the country. I find that hard to believe that there isn't one located near you, and even then how hard is it to drive to a tuner?
ikaney 10-13-2009, 01:58 AM The UK is huge on tuning with plenty of tuners right across the country. I find that hard to believe that there isn't one located near you, and even then how hard is it to drive to a tuner?
I can't even find a Mitsubishi dealer less 50 miles away to take a proper look at my car let alone tune it. Out of the two locally one said I was imagining it or it could be because the SST is so new technology wise that there's bound to be problems (even though I told him of the S-Sport 'fix') and the other dealer's diagnostic computer has broke, and it's still broke apparently, nearly a month later!
It certainly isn't hard to drive to a tuner but I'm that fedup dealing with inept companies and people that I just wanted a recommendation of a quality tuner and I'll happily drive and pay to get it sorted... I'd love to be able to do that! :)
juggler 10-13-2009, 07:56 AM Ikaney, where abouts in the UK are you??
The are plenty of tuners around who are very helpful and knowledgable in the UK. Mits dealerships are poor in the Uk, they know very little about the SST to be honest as it is a new box
ikaney 10-13-2009, 08:11 AM I suppose it would help if I told people whereabouts I was! ;)
I'm on the Wirral, near Liverpool. Hope this helps :)
gunzo 10-13-2009, 08:12 AM I can't even find a Mitsubishi dealer less 50 miles away to take a proper look at my car let alone tune it. Out of the two locally one said I was imagining it or it could be because the SST is so new technology wise that there's bound to be problems (even though I told him of the S-Sport 'fix') and the other dealer's diagnostic computer has broke, and it's still broke apparently, nearly a month later!
It certainly isn't hard to drive to a tuner but I'm that fedup dealing with inept companies and people that I just wanted a recommendation of a quality tuner and I'll happily drive and pay to get it sorted... I'd love to be able to do that! :)
If you can get hold of graham white on the lancer register forums .. he may be able to help out ..
or if you like to try diy .. I'll get you to fix your own rom :D
ikaney 10-13-2009, 09:47 AM Thanks to everybody for all the advice thus far, it's all SO appreciated. I'm desperately trying to love this car!
gunzo: I'll see if I can find Graham. But the DIY route interests me, what costs are involved, hardware required, etc? Also after you mentioning sensors, etc. being a possible culprit, do you think the ROM/ECU could be causing the problem? Or would doing the DIY route flag up any issues with sensors?
gunzo 10-13-2009, 09:58 AM Thanks to everybody for all the advice thus far, it's all SO appreciated. I'm desperately trying to love this car!
gunzo: I'll see if I can find Graham. But the DIY route interests me, what costs are involved, hardware required, etc? Also after you mentioning sensors, etc. being a possible culprit, do you think the ROM/ECU could be causing the problem? Or would doing the DIY route flag up any issues with sensors?
tactrix cable and a laptop ..
so far of all the SST that had issues that I looked at .. non were gearbox issues .. sensors, maintenance (ie filter clogged), but mostly it was software issues with the ECU ..
one of the biggest things on my mind was does the geabox have learned data because you can corrupt those data and the weird stuffs begin to surface .. I don't know .. but those with software issues were fixed after a base rom was uploaded and driven for a week or so ..
Your issue here is probably can the cable communicate with an FQ series .. Graham was telling me he had issues but I don't know which series he had issues with .. I know FQ360 is non issue coz I have that map :D
ikaney 10-13-2009, 10:05 AM Tactrix cable doesn't seem that costly, definately something to look at. My car is the stock UK spec FQ 300 SST, not sure if that helps determine if it would be compatible?
You mention the learned data, well it's strange that this behavior began after around 500 miles of motorway driving after my holiday in the summer. Would this learned data have been wiped when the ECU was reflashed by Mitsubishi though?
I'm also wondering would the issue I'm seeing be because the previous owner was possibly not using as high an octane petrol as myself? Super unleaded in the UK is generally 97-98 depending on where you go but I use Shell V-Power which is 99, is this possible?
Sorry for all the questions but I actually feel like I'm learning and possibly getting close to several possible resolutions :)
gunzo 10-13-2009, 11:14 AM Tactrix cable doesn't seem that costly, definately something to look at. My car is the stock UK spec FQ 300 SST, not sure if that helps determine if it would be compatible?
You mention the learned data, well it's strange that this behavior began after around 500 miles of motorway driving after my holiday in the summer. Would this learned data have been wiped when the ECU was reflashed by Mitsubishi though?
I'm also wondering would the issue I'm seeing be because the previous owner was possibly not using as high an octane petrol as myself? Super unleaded in the UK is generally 97-98 depending on where you go but I use Shell V-Power which is 99, is this possible?
Sorry for all the questions but I actually feel like I'm learning and possibly getting close to several possible resolutions :)
Hmm.. I don't know .. I just checked .. I got an FQ300 also .. but its the GSR
Definitely sounds cheaper than your rental :bowol:
that's definitely a possibility but I don't want to raise your hopes yet .. what happened to one of the guys I helped (I didn' do anything much actually ;) )
was he had slippage everytime he accelerated from standstill .. I put in a stock rom for him .. had the issues for 2 weeks and then he just said it was gone :D when I drove his car I was quite sure he broke the clutches .. but when I tested again after he said its gone .. car felt like normal ..
Oh .. bad fuel will cause this weird thing .. the car actually modulates te throttle to reduces instances of knock .. hmm now that you mentioned .. this guy also went thru a batch of bad fuel ..
another test for you then .. warmup the car every morning and drive it like an F1 guy (WITHIN LIMITS though !! :p) for about 5-10mins .. and then cruise the rest of the way to work or what .. at a steady rpm .. I think it takes about a week for it adjust though .. so it should have relearnt too :duh:
Anyway .. drive it like an Evo for a while :D ..
something for you to think about .. I still get this once in a while :D .. but its fun when it doesn't happen
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/th_LaunchSlowdown.jpg (http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/gunzo_photos/?action=view¤t=LaunchSlowdown.flv)
ak47m203 10-18-2009, 09:22 PM hey anything new to your problem?is it fixed?
This is FQ 300, can you do this acceleration?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NUVmbuySR8
Im just thiking it's MAF, this guy posted his problem in Evom, first it's like the tranny when they changed the MAF it is fixed, if you can swap you MAP with some other evo and run it to see the difference.Another thing it might be a big boost leak.
So far, this problem seems to have been caused by a bad MAF sensor. Mitsubishi replaced the MAF and while I haven't had the time to test the hell out of the car, it sure seems like these problems have been eliminated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-4lBExVXdc
ikaney 10-19-2009, 10:44 PM Ok, eventually I took the Evo to a relatively near tuning place and they ran some logging on it. There is definately an issue with the way the RPMs climb, however they've stated they can't see anything wrong with the readings from the MAF or the MAP sensors.
The company has now sent the logs to Ecutek (they apparently deal with the ECU's on the UK Evo's) to see if somebody there can shed some light. Fingers crossed...
gunzo 10-20-2009, 02:00 AM Ok, eventually I took the Evo to a relatively near tuning place and they ran some logging on it. There is definately an issue with the way the RPMs climb, however they've stated they can't see anything wrong with the readings from the MAF or the MAP sensors.
The company has now sent the logs to Ecutek (they apparently deal with the ECU's on the UK Evo's) to see if somebody there can shed some light. Fingers crossed...
you got PM
DBL R 10-20-2009, 08:11 AM wow this thread depresses me
ak47m203 10-20-2009, 02:23 PM Ok, eventually I took the Evo to a relatively near tuning place and they ran some logging on it. There is definately an issue with the way the RPMs climb, however they've stated they can't see anything wrong with the readings from the MAF or the MAP sensors.
The company has now sent the logs to Ecutek (they apparently deal with the ECU's on the UK Evo's) to see if somebody there can shed some light. Fingers crossed...
what they need to do is swap your MAF and drive it and see the difference. the reading might be right but it drives wrong. did you see the fq 300 vidz, means you can't drive like that.
ikaney 10-20-2009, 03:04 PM Here's an extra special treat for everybody! (cheer)
The tuning place sent me the logs they recorded from my vehicle whilst I was driving it and here they are in graph form. Check out the 'super smooth' RPM when the throttle angle hardly changes... :freak:
Apologies for the sarcasm, I just got off the phone from Mitsubishi UK to complain about the fact I've spent roughly 600 of my UK pounds in annual leave, petrol and various other factors whilst using several of their dealers trying to get the fault diagnosed and they're _still_ no further along. It's all in my imagination now apparently.
I'm just about ready to drive it to their HQ and insert the car somewhere!
Anyhow, I'm going to go down the MAF/MAP sensors routes as several have suggested (including gunzo at the beginning of the thread - thank you to EVERYBODY who has commented though, it's so appreciated!), purchase them myself (hey I'm already 600 down why not go the whole hog) and get them fitted by somebody who knows what they're doing (i.e. not anyone related to Mitsubishi UK)
If that doesn't work I'll just sell the piece of ****
Think happy thoughts...
ak47m203 10-20-2009, 03:13 PM dont give up. im enjoying mine why not yours... and you have fq300.
ikaney 10-28-2009, 11:59 AM The latest updates to this complete farce...
The tuning place I went to spoke to Ecutek and they've now ruled out that it's anything to do with the ECU and related systems. They're placing the finger of blame in the direction of the SST gearbox. Fantastic... Now starts the long painful process of getting Mitsubishi to actually acknowledge this...
Yesterday myself and one of the technicians from the tuning place went to the local dealer and he's basically opened a TSR with the data we've logged. However we both came away feeling rather underwhelmed and without much hope. From what I've heard the SST gearboxes are on the expensive side so it's a warranty repair or nothing for me.
However, I'm of the current mindset that it'll be a cold day in hell before Mitsubishi admit there's a problem with the gearbox. If they do actually admit it, I'll take them to the cleaners with regards to the amount of time and money spent trying to get this problem diagnosed and fixed. I'll also pay particular attention to the fact that 3(!) different dealers all fobbed me off stating there was nothing wrong and their expert technicians can't spot a faulty frigging gearbox!
So, I'm awaiting a phone call today with an update...
gunzo 10-28-2009, 02:17 PM The latest updates to this complete farce...
The tuning place I went to spoke to Ecutek and they've now ruled out that it's anything to do with the ECU and related systems. They're placing the finger of blame in the direction of the SST gearbox. Fantastic... Now starts the long painful process of getting Mitsubishi to actually acknowledge this...
Yesterday myself and one of the technicians from the tuning place went to the local dealer and he's basically opened a TSR with the data we've logged. However we both came away feeling rather underwhelmed and without much hope. From what I've heard the SST gearboxes are on the expensive side so it's a warranty repair or nothing for me.
However, I'm of the current mindset that it'll be a cold day in hell before Mitsubishi admit there's a problem with the gearbox. If they do actually admit it, I'll take them to the cleaners with regards to the amount of time and money spent trying to get this problem diagnosed and fixed. I'll also pay particular attention to the fact that 3(!) different dealers all fobbed me off stating there was nothing wrong and their expert technicians can't spot a faulty frigging gearbox!
So, I'm awaiting a phone call today with an update...
I won't be surprised if you ask them to tune your car this problem will 'magically' disappear ;)
Tell them to either increase the loading for the ECU-SST between 12-30% TPS ..
OR
reduce timing between loadcells 80-140 from 1750rpms to 3000rpms back to stock :p
Remember I was telling you I had similiar issues with a SST too ?? thats how we fixed it .. FQ300 was done a year ago .. with not much understanding to the ECU .. EVEN by ECUTek .. it is now that people starts opening up the SST tuning that alot of stuffs are being discovered ;)
ikaney 10-28-2009, 05:12 PM Everything is still at stock though?
Ecutek have stated tuning/remapping will not resolve the issue. You'll have to excuse any ignorance, this is a different world. One I'm not happy in...
You stated a DIY route, but this isn't possible with the UK models, is that correct?
gunzo 10-29-2009, 01:45 AM Everything is still at stock though?
Ecutek have stated tuning/remapping will not resolve the issue. You'll have to excuse any ignorance, this is a different world. One I'm not happy in...
You stated a DIY route, but this isn't possible with the UK models, is that correct?
Yes .. everything is still stock ..
I have not done the DIY thing on the UK model so I don't know if it'll work on yours ..
Basically remove the ECUtek mapping and put back stock mapping ..
I think it took about 2 weeks before everything went back normal ..
You've been through alot .. and I do not want to disappoint you .. so I'll just add it may also be they are right that the gearbox is broke (YEAH RIGHT :p )
ikaney 10-29-2009, 12:30 PM Will pass this info onto the tuning place and see what they say.
Thanks for your help again gunzo :)
(still waiting for the call from Mitsubishi...)
ak47m203 10-29-2009, 07:09 PM you should enjoy what other mr owner enjoyed. it's a lemmon car. can you just get a gsr?
ikaney 10-29-2009, 07:12 PM The model line loses me with this car across the different markets.
It's the FQ 300 GSR SST, we only have the GS and GSR trims in the UK and just variants in HP otherwise, 300, 330, 360 and 400.
ak47m203 10-29-2009, 07:14 PM The model line loses me with this car across the different markets.
It's the FQ 300 GSR SST, we only have the GS and GSR trims in the UK and just variants in HP otherwise, 300, 330, 360 and 400.
just bring this to the coorporate as the dealer is incompetent, your 100 percent not satisfied with the car, you want a new one. get a 360 manual.
ikaney 10-29-2009, 07:21 PM Spoken to Mitsubishi UK several times, they're not interested. No lemon law in the UK.
Stuck with seats falling apart, not accelerating properly and a dubious service book, and this was bought from a Mitsubishi dealer!
If they would take it back they could have it, I've lost any love I had for the car.
Well, if that's the case then see if you can trade her for something else. That's what I wold do. Any replacement cars in mind?
ak47m203 10-29-2009, 08:35 PM Well, if that's the case then see if you can trade her for something else. That's what I wold do. Any replacement cars in mind?
trade it with STI.lol or a ford focus RS.
ikaney 10-29-2009, 09:00 PM It took me several years to decide on what to replace my beautiful Honda Integra Type-R with!
Haven't a clue to be honest, might just get another Honda. Some would say boring but they're bloody reliable!
ikaney 10-30-2009, 07:47 PM Spoke to Mitsubishi today to ask them why it's taking so long for any type of response. They've asked for the car to be booked into a dealer for a road test (again). Phoned the dealer to book it in, he asked whether Mitsubishi had authorized it because he's not interested unless somebody is paying for it. I stated I wasn't sure what they wanted me to do, he stated I haven't a clue what they want us to do about it!
Sadly the last straw, I'm writing to the MD of Mitsubishi UK and Mitsubishi Japan as well as the Department of Fair Trading. They can have the car back. This issue has been going on for 2 months and they're no closer to fixing it.
Thanks everybody for your support :)
celica2evo 10-30-2009, 08:20 PM man I just read through these 7 pages of hell and all I can say is I am sorry to hear this happened!
I hope everything works out for you in the end and you find your love for the evo's again!
Cataclysm 11-02-2009, 04:54 PM It's always shitty to hear of bad experiences. I bitch about my Mustang I modded all the time, but then go on the forums and see that there are people that have spent far more money, far more time dealing with issues much more sever than mine (slight driveability issues...). Best of luck to you.
Remember, this can happen with ANY car, any make. Keep your head up.
ikaney 11-13-2009, 02:08 PM It's been a while but I finally got some information. Basically I got a garage (formerly Ralliart UK) with another SST in there to go and drive it and told him exactly how to reproduce the issue. Would you believe it, that did it as well!
Maybe Ecutek have fooked up the entire Evolution range in the UK by fannying about with it, or maybe Mitsubishi can't do automatics that accelerate properly. Either way it's an absolute disgrace. I'm absolutely fuming now, I had a cheap ass Honda Civic automatic as a courtesy car that behaved better than this piece of crap. The finance company won't let me remap the vehicle to try and rid it of this issue so the only course of action is to get rid.
Thank you to everybody for their advice and kind words, they've meant a lot to me after the course of the 2 months I've been dealing with this 'issue'.
You're a fantastic community and a credit to the car, I hope you all have great fun with yours :D
Took me a year to decide on the Evo. I just can't think of any other car out there that has 5 doors, quick and fun to drive. Lots of nice cars out there, but many of them are boring to drive
ikaney 01-22-2010, 09:59 PM Well, back again. My rage subsided and I calmly let the finance company have a go after submitting a detailed log of what I'd done thus far.
Today I finally heard back from Mitsubishi UK after their investigation. The whole transmission needs replacing and they've proceeded to order the parts needed. They're also going to fix the seats, etc.
Fair play to MMC they've stepped up and really got things moving so hopefully I'll get my car back fairly soon and I can begin to enjoy owning an 'Evo', although I've got an FQ360 GSR to drive whilst mine is getting repaired. Rude fuel consumption, but boy it goes like a ******!
I thought I'd let people know here after all the support, comments, info and help. Cheers.
dcpatters 01-22-2010, 10:24 PM An FQ360 is a real stonker. Glad to hear your troubles will be sorted.
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