: Tarmac Black, Phantom Black, Graphite Gray


delkat
01-17-2008, 01:17 AM
With the news of Phantom Black becoming available as an option for the GSR, I'm very interested in getting my X in PB. There seems to be a lot of confusion over what Phantom Black looks like. Many people (including my dealer) seem to think the dark metallic gray/black is the Graphite Gray. I believe it is either Tarmac Black or Phantom Black because I have seen pictures of Gray cars that are slightly darker than Silver and look similar to the GG in the IX.

Does anyone have pictures that clearly show the difference between Graphite Gray and Phantom Black?

Thanks

_Chris_
01-17-2008, 01:30 AM
Heres a color chart from the LA Auto show...
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=614&d=1197224685
pic taken by MEVOX

Jackygor
01-17-2008, 02:02 AM
http://www.chaosquake.de/files/temp/i-cant-see-shit.jpg from the reflection!!

on2it
01-17-2008, 02:50 AM
phantom black is black/black.

Tarmac is black/charcoal

Tarmac =

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd250/on2it/IMGP4376.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd250/on2it/IMGP4238BC.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/reviews/mitsubishi/7196258/0710_z+2008_mitsubishi_evolution_x+front.jpg
phantom black =

http://thegarageblog.com/garage/wp-content/uploads/evo-x-black.jpg

Jackygor
01-17-2008, 03:16 AM
So phantom black is blacker than tarmac black?

Kooldino
01-17-2008, 03:31 AM
Phantom Black is blacker than Air4orce1z is blacker than Tarmac Black is blacker than Graphite Gray.

Jackygor
01-17-2008, 03:37 AM
Phantom Black is blacker than Air4orce1z is blacker than Tarmac Black is blacker than Graphite Gray.

Ah ok I get it now. :bowlol:

SiC
01-17-2008, 04:27 AM
I always thought that Phantom Black, Tarmac, & Phantom Black Pearl (JDM) were all the same color, just named differently in different regions.:slaphead:

LowUFO
01-17-2008, 04:31 AM
I've seen a Lancer in Tarmac black and it was basic black without any metallic flake at all. I thought Phantom black pearl which obviously has some metallic flake in it would be lighter, then GG would be lighter again.

wickedchimp
01-17-2008, 01:13 PM
Now im really confused.:wtfsign:

Kooldino
01-17-2008, 01:19 PM
^Why so?

In the US, Tarmac Black is not an option on the X. It is, however, an option on the base Lancer.

LowUFO
01-17-2008, 02:20 PM
Right. Tarmac black is a regular Lancer color. Phantom Black (Pearl) and Graphite Grey are EVO colors.

Kooldino
01-17-2008, 03:02 PM
Well, Graphite is also available on regular lancers as well.

So to reiterate

US Evo X - Graphite Gray, Phantom Black
Overseas Evo X - Graphite Gray, Tarmac Black
US Base Lancer - Graphite Gray, Tarmac Black

LowUFO
01-17-2008, 03:07 PM
So US and Canadian EVOs black is Phantom Black Pearl. But overseas they get Phantom Black Pearl too. Remember that guy in HK?

Kooldino
01-17-2008, 03:19 PM
Was the HK guy definitely PB? Because on2it has Tarmac black.

I just know that what I listed for the US is correct.

LowUFO
01-17-2008, 08:22 PM
God knows. It was WAN888. He calls it black pearl.

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=906

on2it
01-18-2008, 04:36 AM
I asked for phantom black. It wasn't available in NZ for the Evo X. Only Tarmac. No regrets with Tarmac though.

on2it
01-18-2008, 04:41 AM
Well, Graphite is also available on regular lancers as well.

So to reiterate

US Evo X - Graphite Gray, Phantom Black
Overseas Evo X - Graphite Gray, Tarmac Black
US Base Lancer - Graphite Gray, Tarmac Black

I have a feeling this is correct.

delkat
01-18-2008, 06:18 AM
I saw the black on the base lancer and it is solid black with no metallic, not the same as the Tarmac Black on the Evo X from New Zealand. So the question still remains, what is Phantom Black?

The car from the AZ lot is definitely Graphite Grey but are the others Phantom Black or are they the Tarmac Black like the car from NZ?

_Chris_
01-18-2008, 12:19 PM
Well, Graphite is also available on regular lancers as well.

So to reiterate

US Evo X - Graphite Gray, Phantom Black
Overseas Evo X - Graphite Gray, Tarmac Black
US Base Lancer - Graphite Gray, Tarmac Black

I have a feeling this is correct.


:+1:

LowUFO
01-18-2008, 12:24 PM
Clearly Tarmac and PBP are not the same. But the question remains which countries get which black.

paulanthonyyy
01-19-2008, 04:07 AM
phantom black has three coatings, first one is like a metallic gold, then black, then a clear coating i believe? i know the gold gives it a metallic shine.

Kooldino
01-19-2008, 04:17 AM
I saw the black on the base lancer and it is solid black with no metallic, not the same as the Tarmac Black on the Evo X from New Zealand. So the question still remains, what is Phantom Black?

The car from the AZ lot is definitely Graphite Grey but are the others Phantom Black or are they the Tarmac Black like the car from NZ?

I want to say pics #2 and 3 are PB.

Kooldino
01-19-2008, 04:19 AM
phantom black has three coatings, first one is like a metallic gold, then black, then a clear coating i believe? i know the gold gives it a metallic shine.

I heard on the radio that the gold base coat is made from gold acquired from leprechauns at the end of the rainbow.

Thuan
01-23-2008, 04:06 AM
I hope that The EVO PB come close to these 3, the last one is the best

http://www.cartype.com/images/page/phantom-black_carbon.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6069/rollsroyceblackphantom24gj.jpg
http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/6_Rolls_Royce_Phantom_2405.jpg

Meero
01-23-2008, 05:53 AM
I heard on the radio that the gold base coat is made from gold acquired from leprechauns at the end of the rainbow.

LOL

You guys r funny! This is what I'm reading: "I'm hoping that Phanthom Black is like Shiny BLack on black with a touch of dark black but not too Black!

nasty n8
01-23-2008, 02:27 PM
I just saw the phantom black pearl MR at the Detroit Auto show, and I've got a friend with a tarmac black IX

Tarmac Black is your basic black with a metallic flake

Phantom Black pearl looks more like a mix between graphite gray and tarmac black. It's black...but it's definitely not as dark as the tarmac black is.

I was able to get the Evo X brochure from the sales rep and the available colors in the US are

Phantom Black Pearl
Octane Blue Pearl (GSR only)
Rally Red Metallic
Apex Silver Metallic
Graphite Gray Pearl
Wicked White

cksdayoff
01-23-2008, 02:37 PM
I just saw the phantom black pearl MR at the Detroit Auto show, and I've got a friend with a tarmac black IX




would have been great if you took some pics but thanks for the info.

nasty n8
01-23-2008, 02:43 PM
ask...and you shall receive! I'm uploading pics off of my camera phone right now. It'll just be a few minutes.

I'll have better quality pictures once my girlfriend sends me the ones off of her digital.

here you go!

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/n8pompe/0121081211_0001.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/n8pompe/0121081208_0001.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/n8pompe/0121081207a_0001.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/n8pompe/0121081207_0001_0001.jpg

kiadaw
01-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Damn Confusing, all the different types of black. Not really a concern to me as I be getting mine in Red ( & don't ask me what red).

cksdayoff
01-23-2008, 11:36 PM
nasty n8, thanks for those pics, you have a nice cellphone camera!

nasty n8
01-24-2008, 03:23 AM
don't mention it!

The color looks even better in person...in fact, the whole car does! I can't wait to start seeing these things on the road