Does anyone possibly have an extra HKS SSQV Fin Insert lying around?
I'm not looking to buy (actually I may be) - but looking to do some investigating.
I'm specifically looking for specific diameters on either end of the insert (should* be the same on both sides), but who knows.

Also -if nobody gets back too soon, would anyone be willing to unscrew their SSQV to get the answer? I know it's a lot to ask - but maybe someone has one just hanging out waiting to be installed or sold.

Thanks in advance,
Ryan

The SSQV fin is exactly 1.5" in diameter. I have a purple fin if you want it. PM me.

http://www.gethome.no/~vidarg/leon/img/parts/b/ssqv_purple_b.jpg

The SSQV fin is exactly 1.5" in diameter. I have a purple fin if you want it. PM me.

http://www.gethome.no/~vidarg/leon/img/parts/b/ssqv_purple_b.jpg

Thanks for the dimensions - I PM'ed you. I don't really like the sound so much of the purple or gold ones - but it's really for an experiment and nothing else.

I have a silver one lying around, and I know what you're thinking. Let me know how it turns out. Hell, I might try it in a couple weeks when I go up to the shop in md.

I have a silver one lying around.

oooooh really? that's the one i was hoping to get. the purple one doesn't sound quite as cool to me from what i've heard on youtube. it's really just for experimenting, but if it works, i'd definitely want a silver one.
could i get that from you by any chance?

It's in md at the shop, and I won't be up there until the 9th. I can save you a little time (with shippingand such) and post if it fits or not when I go up there. If it doesn't fit and you want to do some mold work or something, let me know and I can still send it to you if you pay shipping.

It's in md at the shop, and I won't be up there until the 9th. I can save you a little time (with shippingand such) and post if it fits or not when I go up there.

i've actually got a purple one coming my way that should be here before then. i'll let you know if i still want it. as soon as i get the purple one, i'll be heading out to get the other required parts for fitment and then slap it on immediately to find out if it's what i want or worth sharing with everyone else. if it's successful - i'll let you know and i'd definitely appreciate if you'd pick it up when you're there on the 9th.
thanks,
R

i've actually got a purple one coming my way that should be here before then. i'll let you know if i still want it. as soon as i get the purple one, i'll be heading out to get the other required parts for fitment and then slap it on immediately to find out if it's what i want or worth sharing with everyone else. if it's successful - i'll let you know and i'd definitely appreciate if you'd pick it up when you're there on the 9th.
thanks,
R

Sounds good, let me know how it works out for you.

The purple insert makes the SSQV quieter because the small valve vents through the round hoop instead of through the fin. On the stock valve, it'll vent through the hoop and the fin all at the same time, so it should make the sound noticeably louder. I guess we'll find out...

Just wanted to mention the gold fin is identical to the silver one, the gold is just for looks- they sound the same.

Just wanted to mention the gold fin is identical to the silver one, the gold is just for looks- they sound the same.

really? from what i've heard on YT, it's noticeably different. interesting...

really? from what i've heard on YT, it's noticeably different. interesting...

It is different, I had a gold one for a little bit, and didn't like how high pitched it was. The silver one is my favorite pitch of the three. The purple is lowest pitch, silver is medium, gold is high pitch.

ScottSpeed21 :clap::clap::clap:

thanks so much for helping me out. got the purple HKS SSQV insert today.
i'll be swinging by a shop hopefully tomorrow to pick up what i need to make my idea work. i'll post pics of the install and prices, step-by-step etc, and then sound/video (whether it's good or bad) just so everyone will know.

fingers crossed... hope this works.
AND i'll be driving to the mountains this weekend, so i'll get to test the limp mode factor. * can you believe the ski resorts starting opening YESTERDAY! SOOO early this year. love it.

I'm glad I could help :thumbup: Let us know how your idea works out.

Are you trying to make the duck call 4 the HKS!!!! LOL! I really hope not

Are you trying to make the duck call 4 the HKS!!!! LOL! I really hope not

no.

what is the idea that you are comming up with then?

what is the idea that you are comming up with then?

you'll see...

oh really...
why so secretive?

oh really...
why so secretive?

it's actually not at all.
i'm going to take the stock BOV VTA, plug the recirc hole, attach the SSQV insert to the BOV outlet and see if it makes the same sound as the HKS (or similar). then i'm going to take that same assembly and recirculate it to see what the sound is like. this would be a really cheap way for someone with light mods to keep the stock BOV, but get the HKS sound. and possibly if allowed to recirc - avoid any of the potential problems of the HKS (reportedly)..
may be a stupid idea, but i figured wth.
i'll post all my findings/clips when i'm done.
if it's a flop, no skin off my teeth... if it's a success - hopefully this can help a lot of people with some decisions.

hmmmm not a bad idea
looking forward to the results!

I took it from HKS, they say the gold sounds the same as the silver, and that it's just for "visual appeal".

The HKS SSQV silver triple-fin discharge design produces a powerful and unique aggressive blow-off sound along with added visual distinction. Additional triple-fin inserts are available in gold (standard high frequency sound) for visual appeal and in purple metallic (emits a lower frequency sound than both the standard and gold SSBV inserts) for an alternate sound and appearance. SSQV inserts are easily interchangeable within minutes.

it's actually not at all.
i'm going to take the stock BOV VTA, plug the recirc hole, attach the SSQV insert to the BOV outlet and see if it makes the same sound as the HKS (or similar). then i'm going to take that same assembly and recirculate it to see what the sound is like. this would be a really cheap way for someone with light mods to keep the stock BOV, but get the HKS sound. and possibly if allowed to recirc - avoid any of the potential problems of the HKS (reportedly)..
may be a stupid idea, but i figured wth.
i'll post all my findings/clips when i'm done.
if it's a flop, no skin off my teeth... if it's a success - hopefully this can help a lot of people with some decisions.
I hope this works for you, its a good idea. Im just glad ur not doing the duck call.

I hope this works for you, its a good idea. Im just glad ur not doing the duck call.

well shit... failure!
everything's hooked up, and it's a bit louder than recirc, but it doesn't make the "chirp" of the HKS. must be something about how the air is diverted through the HKS SSQV and not the fins themselves. Pictures soon.
:mad:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/Rayda/EVO%20X/DSC01234.jpg

so it doesn't make the HKS sound :(. oh well... worth the try, and from now on, nobody else will try it either.

looks pretty good - if i were to keep it, i'd definitely paint it and clean it up some, but for the test period it's good enough. doesn't jostle around or anything like that.

i'm going to keep it VTA for a couple weeks and test it in the mountains to make sure my car doesn't have the limp mode problem... if not, i'm going to go ahead and buy the HKS SSQV... if it does, i'll just return it to stock recirc and be out $5.

well shit... failure!
everything's hooked up, and it's a bit louder than recirc, but it doesn't make the "chirp" of the HKS. must be something about how the air is diverted through the HKS SSQV and not the fins themselves. Pictures soon.
:mad:

I think it's the way the ssqv shoots air at it that makes the difference. Try reversing your BOV and place the insert on the "bottom" end of it. That will make it a straight shot from the valve instead of being let out after a 90 degree turn... That might do it since that's kinda the way the ssqv opens.

:+1:

↑↑ Yeah try that.

Did the purple insert make it any louder at all, or did it still sound the same as without it?

There is A LOT of pressure pushing across the insert on the hks because of the bottleneck design between the diaphragm and the insert. I think that's the reason you're having an issue.

There is A LOT of pressure pushing across the insert on the hks because of the bottleneck design between the diaphragm and the insert. I think that's the reason you're having an issue.

yeah, i figured that was probably the case - but wanted to try it anyways.

↑↑ Yeah try that.

Did the purple insert make it any louder at all, or did it still sound the same as without it?

the insert didn't make any difference. going VTA compared to recirc was VERY MINIMAL. i have a ram air intake, so the turbo and stock bov are still noticeable, but definitely not aftermarket sound.

I think it's the way the ssqv shoots air at it that makes the difference. Try reversing your BOV and place the insert on the "bottom" end of it. That will make it a straight shot from the valve instead of being let out after a 90 degree turn... That might do it since that's kinda the way the ssqv opens.

i don't think i follow.
there's the intake outlet and the exhaust outlet (not sure if those are the right terms, but you know what i mean). you want me to reverse the BOV and put the exit outlet into the intake hose? that doesn't affect how the BOV reacts?

Yeah you get the idea, the BOV would open in a similar way to the SSQV if you turn it around. However, that might cause more surge since there will be boost pressure holding the valve closed, rather than pushing it open. I guess another thing you could try is putting the fin right before the BOV, so it's sandwiched somewhere between the long rubber hose and the valve. That way when your BOV opens the air would run through the insert evenly, but that might make a funny noise when you get on the boost too :p

I could've told you it wouldn't work before you bought it. Anyone knowledgeable in musical instruments can chime in.

The whistle sound is caused by a rush of air hitting a focal plane at a certain angle. Much like a flute.

I could've told you it wouldn't work before you bought it. Anyone knowledgeable in musical instruments can chime in.

The whistle sound is caused by a rush of air hitting a focal plane at a certain angle. Much like a flute.

fortunately I didn't have to pay for it.
And you got me... I don't know shit about music - except what sounds good.
Either way I'm glad to have done it so I'll know if my car run good VTA - which it does. More testing to come - but I'll most likely just break down and get the hks one of these days.

I wouldn't go as far to say it runs well as much as that it doesn't run noticeably worse.....

I wouldn't go as far to say it runs well as much as that it doesn't run noticeably worse.....

I'm referring to all the noticeable problems others have had.
It's a never ending argument - but if I feel a difference - I'll ne swapping back faster than you can say 'i told you so'.