: HOW TO: Defi Oil Pressure Gauge
- Parts Required
- 3/8 to 1/8 Adapter
- Teflon Tape
- Defi Oil Pressure Gauge
- Tools Required
- Allen Key Set
- Phillips Screwdriver
- Flathead Screwdriver
- Ratchets and Sockets
- Breaker Bar
- Recommended Number of People
- 1 Person
- Difficulty
- 5
- Time to complete
- 1 to 1.5 hrs
WARNING:Do this during an oil change. If allen key cap is removed, oil will drain
Preparation Step: Drain all oil. Replace oil filter and drain bolt, but do not refill with oil yet.
These are the locations of the places I am going to talk about. The top is the grommet through the firewall and the bottom is the location of the oil pressure sensor.
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1. Remove panels. Follow step 1 through 6 from the following link. http://www.ami-customs.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=4&Itemid=4
2. Connect the following wires.
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3. Remove the Allen keyhead with a 3/8 allen key. Try to use a breaker bar by using the allen key's on sockets. This cap is on there really tight. It took me a few good pulls to break it.
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4. Wrap the Adapter and sensor threads with teflon tape. Do not put too much or else it will not thread. I'd suggesting wrapping 2-4x. You should still be able to see the threads on the adapter. Do not connect the adapter to the oil sensor just yet. Insert the adapter to where you just removed the allen keyhead. Measure the adapter with the allen keyhead so you know when to stop turning it. For mine, it needed 2 threads to show. You don't want to install the adapter too far in.
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5. Once you have installed the adapter you're going to install the oil sensor into the adapter itself. Make sure you do not overtighten as the adapter may crack or your sensor might break.
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6. Once installed, it will look like this.
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7. Next, you're going to make an incision through the grommet through the firewall. You're gonna make an incision on the left side of the grommet, above the notch that is protruding from the grommet. Then you are going stretch it open with a phillips screw driver until you hit the other side. Be careful not to hit any wires, just go slow. Once you can push through, verify it went through by checking inside the car. Refer to the following picture. Use the following URL as a guide. http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-how-tos-installations/334057-how-firewall-access.html
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8. Route the line back to the gauge. Go to your engine bay and zip tie and route the line properly.
9. Refer back to Step 1 and put all your panels back on.
10. At this point, please refill your engine with the proper oil. Ensure your oil filter and drain plug is secure.
Thanks. I hope this can help some people out.
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dakoop 10-03-2009, 11:41 PM Nice write up.
TRUSTcompany9000 10-04-2009, 06:11 PM Great write up, I'll put it into PDF and make you official :)
hotdog 10-04-2009, 09:18 PM Beautiful, thanks!
TRUSTcompany9000 10-04-2009, 09:19 PM PDF is up :)
GO ON 3 10-04-2009, 09:35 PM beauty How 2 buddy!!
Thanks man!
narkotic 10-07-2009, 04:38 AM Great tutorial, minus the use of teflon tape. Not sure if that's such a great idea on a car part in such high-heat conditions. Usually you are suppose to use a tapered fitting so that it seals w/out the use of tape.
Great tutorial, minus the use of teflon tape. Not sure if that's such a great idea on a car part in such high-heat conditions. Usually you are suppose to use a tapered fitting so that it seals w/out the use of tape.
I thought about it but after much reading on different threads, I went with teflon tape, plus, the manual even says to use teflon tape. Thanks.
Vafpraky73 10-13-2009, 01:08 AM yes its me old engine thats what killed it in end so new bearings shud do trick wud like to get and oil pressure gauge just to keep eye on it lol but apart from that u reckon the new bearings shud do it?? thanks alotneways
AMI CUSTOMS 10-13-2009, 01:16 AM I love the gauge pod, who makes that??? Oh yeah, I do. LOOKS GREAT, AWESOME write up, I will be doing this in the future.
antics22 10-13-2009, 10:34 PM Not to hijack this thread but I happen to have a couple of these 3/8 to 1/8 npt adapters if anyone is interesed. They are not the home depot ones but correct metric fittings made out of aircraft grade 7075 aluminum. I picked up a couple extra for my gauges and they're just sitting around... PM me if interested.
hollywood_X 10-13-2009, 11:08 PM Great tutorial, minus the use of teflon tape. Not sure if that's such a great idea on a car part in such high-heat conditions. Usually you are suppose to use a tapered fitting so that it seals w/out the use of tape.
First off good write up :thumbup:
Secondly I wanted to add a little something to this comment.
Typicall teflon tape is good for 550 degrees F, and the absolute max oil temps your car should see are 260 degrees F. Beyond that point your fully synthetic oil starts to fail (Conventional oil is around 240F).
Next the tapered aeroquip (AN) fittings are only to be used on equipment that has been machined with tapered matching ports. Now I see in the write up you say to use a 3/8" by 1/8" adapter, this will work and since it is a brass fitting it will fit but remember these cars are Metric based and the thread patters/Sizes are a bit different. I'm not sure of the actual size that would be but I am guessing its an M3x1.0 or so but I am rusty on my Metric cross overs.
antics22 10-13-2009, 11:29 PM ^ hollywood X, you are correct. the home depot adapter is not the correct thread to the block. The 4B11 block uses a british pipe thread (metric).
AMI CUSTOMS 10-13-2009, 11:41 PM What is the actual BSP size in the block then? Thanks
http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/18-npt-female-to-m-10p-10-male-adapter.aspx
I think this is the correct size, can anyone else confirm? Thanks
My conversion shows that 3/8 is M10
Malves85 12-09-2009, 12:42 AM /\
Is that the correct adapter? I'll be putting in the oil pressure gauge soon and want to make sure I got everything before I start.
AMI CUSTOMS 12-09-2009, 12:58 AM /
Is that the correct adapter? I'll be putting in the oil pressure gauge soon and want to make sure I got everything before I start.
No it is not the correct adapter, I ordered an M10 and it was way to small, needs to be alot bigger. I am going to be doing this soon and I am about to order a half of dozen different sizes until I get the right one since no one seems to know. The correct size will be metric. I am thinking like m16, but not sure. If you find out shoot me a PM. Thanks
Malves85 12-09-2009, 02:52 AM http://store.42draftdesigns.com/Lancer-EVO-18quot-NPT-Oil-Pressure-Adaptor_p_53.html
http://prosportgauges.com/oil-filter-adaptor-plate.aspx
http://www.greddy.com/products/display/?Category=oil&SubCategory=27
Any of these work?
AMI CUSTOMS 12-09-2009, 04:56 AM http://store.42draftdesigns.com/Lancer-EVO-18quot-NPT-Oil-Pressure-Adaptor_p_53.html
http://prosportgauges.com/oil-filter-adaptor-plate.aspx
http://www.greddy.com/products/display/?Category=oil&SubCategory=27
Any of these work?
That first link looks promising. I don't like the other two, they should work, but those are oil filter sandwiches, and I don't care for those. Let me know what you decide on. Thanks
Malves85 12-09-2009, 11:11 PM I'm probably going with the first one. Just going to do a little more looking around over the next few days and order over the weekend.
AMI CUSTOMS 12-10-2009, 09:39 PM I'm probably going with the first one. Just going to do a little more looking around over the next few days and order over the weekend.
I sent them an email and got them to send me one to test for them, they are not sure if it fits the evo X or not. So if you want to hold off I can let you know if it works?
Malves85 12-10-2009, 11:31 PM Sounds like a plan to me. Thanks for being the guinea pig.
livnpaintball2 01-09-2010, 03:11 AM if someone could just tell us what the thread pitch is! you could just buy that bolt for 4 bucks, drill it out, tap it. done..
AMI CUSTOMS 01-09-2010, 04:40 AM Not that simple, it is a 3/8 BSPT, so it is tapered.
livnpaintball2 01-09-2010, 02:23 PM Auto Meter 2269 - Auto Meter Metric Adapters (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-2269/)
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livnpaintball2 01-09-2010, 02:24 PM will that work?
livnpaintball2 01-09-2010, 02:25 PM Auto Meter 2268 - Auto Meter Metric Adapters (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-2268/)
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Estimated Ship Date: 1/11/2010
livnpaintball2 01-09-2010, 02:26 PM or this one?
AMI CUSTOMS 01-09-2010, 07:03 PM Not sure, best I can tell you is buy and try. I went with an oil filter sandwich just cause of the headache and I also striped the head out on the allen plug, so I had no choice really.
pmbaby24 01-23-2010, 07:39 PM do i need to buy a tee for this oil pressure? but i got the defi 52mm though.
AMI CUSTOMS 01-23-2010, 07:43 PM do i need to buy a tee for this oil pressure? but i got the defi 52mm though.
PM Sent!!!
ShomesomeSho 02-07-2010, 07:07 AM Step #3 states to use a 3/8' allen key. This is incorrect. I don't know if the original poster meant to say to use a 3/8" drive allen bit socket, but it is misleading. The correct size is 8MM(thanks AMI Customs)
Another thing maybe worth mentioning is how easy it is to strip this bolt. It is only brass(thanks again AMI CUSTOMS) and strip very easily. You have to make sure you are in perfectly straight and try not to pull at an angle.
th3whitestar 02-03-2011, 05:47 AM Great write up. Exactly what i've been looking for. Thanks!
Daskid 02-03-2011, 07:12 AM So anybody has the correct adapter size? I'll be putting mine in in a couple of days.
Xcited 04-21-2011, 01:44 PM So anybody has the correct adapter size? I'll be putting mine in in a couple of days.
I'm also wondering about this... any definitive answers?? I will likely just turn my own adapter, but need to know if the 3/8 thread is a 3/8 BSP? or BSPT? I have read both. I really don't want to drain all my oil just to gauge a stupid thread.
avatar2140 04-21-2011, 03:37 PM Step #3 states to use a 3/8' allen key. This is incorrect. I don't know if the original poster meant to say to use a 3/8" drive allen bit socket, but it is misleading. The correct size is 8MM(thanks AMI Customs)
Another thing maybe worth mentioning is how easy it is to strip this bolt. It is only brass(thanks again AMI CUSTOMS) and strip very easily. You have to make sure you are in perfectly straight and try not to pull at an angle.
It measured 8.35mm. It was 5/16 that worked in my case. It is nerve wreaking how much torque you need to get it off the car thanks to Loctite on the threads. Dino did the install for me and he is an excellent mechanic to say the least.
Go to home depot at look for a fitting with item number "776" 1/8 to 3/8 here is the link:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100137722/h_d2/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&keyword=brass+776&jspStoreDir=hdus&Nu=P_PARENT_ID&navFlow=3&catalogId=10053&langId=-1&ddkey=Search
Xcited 04-21-2011, 08:04 PM It measured 8.35mm. It was 5/16 that worked in my case. It is nerve wreaking how much torque you need to get it off the car thanks to Loctite on the threads. Dino did the install for me and he is an excellent mechanic to say the least.
Go to home depot at look for a fitting with item number "776" 1/8 to 3/8 here is the link:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100137722/h_d2/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&keyword=brass+776&jspStoreDir=hdus&Nu=P_PARENT_ID&navFlow=3&catalogId=10053&langId=-1&ddkey=Search
If that home depot adapter is a NPT thread and not a BSPT thread, then IMO it should not be used due to the difference in pitch...
I believe that the 3/8 does not need to be converted to a metric thread size, since BSP sizes can be fractional... 3/8-19 being a standard BSP size. It's the thread angle of the British Standard (55 degrees) that creates 1 more TPI, as opposed to the 60 degree NPT, which standard size is 3/8-18.
So you can see that using a 3/8-18 NPT male into a 3/18-19 BSPT female may not be the best idea... the difference in pitch would be .0015" which is still a mismatch of .013" between the first and last threads over a 1/2" length (please correct my math if it's incorrect). sure it would fit, but I'm sure the use of teflon tape restricts the feeling of threads mashing together lol.
Maybe just knowing that they are different bothers me about the whole thing lol.
So is it confirmed that the 3/8 thread is tapered?
avatar2140 04-21-2011, 08:27 PM I drove over 120 miles last night at 80+ and drove my car hard today with no issues to speak of.
Xcited 04-21-2011, 09:06 PM I drove over 120 miles last night at 80+ and drove my car hard today with no issues to speak of.
I'm sure it will function fine. I'm glad to hear it did, as I may end up going this route if I can't free up a lathe within the next couple weeks.
Besides, it's not exactly a bearing or anything where .001" here and there will really matter lol. Except maybe leaking oil (which is unlikely in any case it seems)... good thing that pressure gauge is installed! :neener: lol
avatar2140 04-21-2011, 09:26 PM I'm sure it will function fine. I'm glad to hear it did, as I may end up going this route if I can't free up a lathe within the next couple weeks.
Besides, it's not exactly a bearing or anything where .001" here and there will really matter lol. Except maybe leaking oil (which is unlikely in any case it seems)... good thing that pressure gauge is installed! :neener: lol
Locktite never hurts either :D
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