: changing coolant
gixxer 10-10-2009, 02:04 AM It is almost time to change my coolant
Anyone have any suggestions on what type of coolant to use ?
Does anyone have the how-to for the instructions of doing this job ?
thanks for your input
hollywood_X 10-10-2009, 02:20 AM If your standing in front of the car facing it just behind the bumper on the bottom left of the radiator there is a drain for the coolant. Its a little winged plastic piece. When you unscrew it the coolant will drain just underneath it. Just be careful not to undo it all the way it will gush out all over the inside of your bumper making one hell of a glycol mess.
As far as what to put back in, use the GREEN coolant it works much better at keeping deposits out. Also don't use just regular tap water for the 50/50 mix. Get some distilled purified water.
gixxer 10-10-2009, 02:30 AM ^ thanks for the info
do I have to do any kind of flush of some sort or do I just drain the radiator and the secondary reservoir as well
Talon_66 10-10-2009, 03:01 AM ^ thanks for the info
do I have to do any kind of flush of some sort or do I just drain the radiator and the secondary reservoir as well
I dont think it would hurt to flush a litre or 2 of new fluid through the system.
You can buy premixed Prestone 50/50 Antifreeze.
dcpatters 10-10-2009, 04:38 AM Does the cooling system require bleeding after draining and re-filling?
nbpal3000 10-10-2009, 04:48 AM Do the cooling system require bleeding after draining and re-filling?
yeah
there is like a special funnel you can put a top on the radiator fill hole and let the engine run untill u get no more bubbles outta the system. I did that on my evo 8.
simons 10-18-2009, 10:15 PM I plan on using Peak Antifreeze 50/50 mix. Prestone is probably very similar.
As for bleeding the system. Can't you just leave the radiator cap off and run the car until no more bubbles are visible? So you don't have to get that special funnel you mentioned.
nbpal3000 10-19-2009, 01:16 AM I plan on using Peak Antifreeze 50/50 mix. Prestone is probably very similar.
As for bleeding the system. Can't you just leave the radiator cap off and run the car until no more bubbles are visible? So you don't have to get that special funnel you mentioned.
well you can, but its gonna overflow so if you are ok with that then it will be fine
hollywood_X 10-19-2009, 02:34 AM To get all the bubbles out be sure to have your heater on so it will circulate through that core also.
AMI CUSTOMS 10-19-2009, 03:07 PM How many months/mileage to change this for the evo X? Thanks
nbpal3000 10-20-2009, 03:40 AM manual says 30,000 miles. I'd say up to 50k is fine if you DONT beat your car everyday
jackfrog 04-19-2010, 04:07 PM If your standing in front of the car facing it just behind the bumper on the bottom left of the radiator there is a drain for the coolant. Its a little winged plastic piece. When you unscrew it the coolant will drain just underneath it. Just be careful not to undo it all the way it will gush out all over the inside of your bumper making one hell of a glycol mess.
As far as what to put back in, use the GREEN coolant it works much better at keeping deposits out. Also don't use just regular tap water for the 50/50 mix. Get some distilled purified water.
i wanna install some radiator hoses, do you have a picture showing where the winged plastic piece to drain coolant out?
thanks
Rogue 04-19-2010, 05:29 PM Put some water wetter in..
orthojoe 08-14-2010, 12:12 AM how do we drain the coolant? Isn't there a bolt to drain the engine block too? At least, that's what i've had to do with my prior cars. I thought it wasnt enough to just drain the radiator.
Golden 08-14-2010, 02:50 AM Usually the drain plug is lower than the engine.
boostin20 08-14-2010, 06:25 AM Adding to what someone else mentioned, the car calls for long life antifreeze. It has anti-oxidation properties for aluminum, and is designed to be able to be used in any type of vehicle. Regular green antifreeze (ethylene glycol) does not have those properties for aluminum.
Rogue 08-14-2010, 01:16 PM Adding to what someone else mentioned, the car calls for long life antifreeze. It has anti-oxidation properties for aluminum, and is designed to be able to be used in any type of vehicle. Regular green antifreeze (ethylene glycol) does not have those properties for aluminum.
Ahh good to know!
blk-majik 10-08-2010, 07:35 PM I'm pretty sure the OEM coolant is a eth glyc base, but does anyone know if it contains phosphates, or if it lacks silicates? A lot of the Jap cooling systems do both to reduce corrosion, but I believe Peak and most domestic fluids do neither.
Any suggestions on a good coolant for someone who tracks occasionally, has cold winters, and only wants to flush every 15-20k miles/2 years? Might just be best to use the OE to be safe unless there's a reason to use something else for performance reasons.
jeffro_jones 10-08-2010, 08:22 PM How many litres / gallons of coolant will drain from a system if it is full?
chetrickerman 10-10-2010, 06:48 PM sub'd
going to flush my system also soon.
chetrickerman 10-12-2010, 04:39 AM how do we drain the coolant? Isn't there a bolt to drain the engine block too? At least, that's what i've had to do with my prior cars. I thought it wasnt enough to just drain the radiator.
How many litres / gallons of coolant will drain from a system if it is full?
I'm pretty sure the OEM coolant is a eth glyc base, but does anyone know if it contains phosphates, or if it lacks silicates? A lot of the Jap cooling systems do both to reduce corrosion, but I believe Peak and most domestic fluids do neither.
Any suggestions on a good coolant for someone who tracks occasionally, has cold winters, and only wants to flush every 15-20k miles/2 years? Might just be best to use the OE to be safe unless there's a reason to use something else for performance reasons.
just consolidating all of these questions as i am interested in answers for all of them
blk-majik 10-18-2010, 01:52 AM I did a new radiator install today. Here's some answers:
1) To drain - there's a plug on the bottom of the radiator, passenger side, on the front. you have to take the bumper and some of the undertray off. There's also a sleeve on the engine and on the turbo which you should drain via drain plugs. The turbo might not be worth the effort if you don't put off a change too long, since you'll likely have to remove the turbo to install it. I ended up disconnecting the radiator hose from the right of the fill cap and just flushing it via that hose with water and some compressed air to try to force as much out as I could.
2) 2 gallons. 7.5L to be exact. Mine only ended up taking about 1.6G though
3) I just used 50/50 Peak. I never got a good answer, but since I changed the radiator and the hoses anyway, and the OEM stuff seemed to leave a lot of corrosion goup, I figured it can't be much worse :)
nystc23 10-18-2010, 02:12 AM sub'd
jojobanks 10-18-2010, 03:25 AM I did a new radiator install today. Here's some answers:
1) To drain - there's a plug on the bottom of the radiator, passenger side, on the front. you have to take the bumper and some of the undertray off. There's also a sleeve on the engine and on the turbo which you should drain via drain plugs. The turbo might not be worth the effort if you don't put off a change too long, since you'll likely have to remove the turbo to install it. I ended up disconnecting the radiator hose from the right of the fill cap and just flushing it via that hose with water and some compressed air to try to force as much out as I could.
2) 2 gallons. 7.5L to be exact. Mine only ended up taking about 1.6G though
3) I just used 50/50 Peak. I never got a good answer, but since I changed the radiator and the hoses anyway, and the OEM stuff seemed to leave a lot of corrosion goup, I figured it can't be much worse :)
I dunno about removing your bumper cover to drain your radiator... Are you talking about removing the whole radiator? Your coolant drain valve is usually at the lowest point of your cooling system, so you shouldn't have to do anything other than just opening that up and taking off your coolant cap to drain everything.
For flushing your cooling system, remove your thirmostat, start your car and turn your heater on, and take a water hose and spray it through the inlet side of your cooling system(pay attention to your thermostat when you take it out, whichever way your spring compresses is the direction of your coolant flow.). Keep dumping water in and wait for clean water to start coming out the other side. Once you're satisfied with the cleanliness, shut off the water and turn off the car. The water pump will pump most of the pure water out of the system once you stop putting water in, then you just put everything back togeather and fill er up.
As far as getting air out of your system, just leave the cap off and let it run the bubbles out. Refill with coolant as necessary as when air comes out your coolant level will go down.
jojobanks 10-18-2010, 03:36 AM As far as how much/what kind of coolant to use, just look in your owner's manual. It'll have all that info in it (I'd just post it but I don't feel like getting my manual out of my car and looking it up right now.). Only use OEM recommended coolant/mixture. There's no point other than making problems for yourself to use anything else.
chetrickerman 10-18-2010, 03:54 PM Good info
Yxd68 10-18-2010, 04:39 PM Acccording to the Service Manual, it looks to be slightly more complicated than what's posted above but not much. I suspect step 21 is incorrect - s/b Reinstall rather than remove. It
specifies long-life coolant and 7.9 Qts. total capacity:
1.Remove the engine room under cover front A (RH). (Refer to GROUP 51, Under Cover P.51-16)
WARNING
When removing the radiator cap, use care to avoid contact with hot coolant or steam. Place a shop towel over the cap and turn the cap counterclockwise a little to let the pressure escape through the vinyl tube. After relieving the steam pressure, remove the cap by slowly turning it counterclockwise.
2.Drain the water from the radiator, heater core and engine after unplugging the radiator drain plug and removing the radiator cap.
3.Remove the engine room under cover front B. (Refer to GROUP 51, Under Cover P.51-16)
4.Remove the air cleaner intake hose. (Refer to GROUP 15, Air Cleaner P.15-10)
5.Remove the turbocharger compressor bracket. (Refer to GROUP 15, Exhaust Manifold and Turbocharger Assembly P.15-16)
6.Disconnect the turbocharger water return hose and drain the coolant in the water jacket.
7.Remove the radiator condenser tank and drain the coolant.
8.Drain the coolant then clean the path of the coolant by injecting water into the radiator from the radiator cap area.
9.Securely tighten the drain plug of the radiator.
10.Reinstall the radiator condenser tank.
Do not use alcohol or methanol anti-freeze or any engine coolants mixed with alcohol or methanol anti-freeze. The use of an improper anti-freeze can cause corrosion of the aluminum components.
11.By referring to the section on coolant, select an appropriate concentration for safe operating temperature within the range of 30 to 60%. Use special tool MB991871 to refill the engine coolant up to the top of the radiator port. A convenient mixture is a 50% water and 50% antifreeze solution [freezing point: −31°C (−23.8 °F)].
Recommended antifreeze: Long Life Antifreeze Coolant or an equivalent
Quantity: 7.5 dm3 (7.9 quarts)
NOTE:
For how to use special tool (MB991871), refer to its manufacturer’s instructions.
12.Tighten the radiator cap securely.
13.Remove the radiator condenser tank cap, and add the engine coolant up to the "FULL" line.
14.Turn the A/C switch to OFF position to start the engine and warm up until the cooling fan operates.
NOTE:
This step opens the thermostat fully.
15.Rev the engine several times and then stop it. Check that there are no coolant leaks.
16.Remove the radiator cap with the engine cool, and then refill the engine coolant up to the top of the radiator port.
17.Tighten the radiator cap securely.
CAUTION
Do not overfill the radiator condenser tank.
18.Remove the radiator condenser tank cap, and add the engine coolant up to the "FULL" line.
19.Install the turbocharger compressor bracket. (Refer to GROUP 15, Exhaust Manifold and Turbocharger Assembly P.15-16)
20.Install the air cleaner intake hose. (Refer to GROUP 15, Air
21.Remove the engine room under cover front A and engine room under cover front A (RH). (Refer to GROUP 51, Under Cover P.51-16)
chetrickerman 10-18-2010, 05:33 PM Good info, just need some pictures to go along with the words
Yxd68 10-18-2010, 08:37 PM Good info, just need some pictures to go along with the words Look in the [service] manual - it's posted (a link to) here on this site. Search for "Coolant Change". Pictures and all.
blk-majik 10-18-2010, 08:44 PM You probably dont' have to remove the bumper. You might be able to just remove the front passenger side undertray. However, it might be difficult to get the drain plug out, and when you do, you'll end up with coolant all over your bumper. Taking the bumper off is a lot easier than it sounds.
Check the radiator hose that feeds near the LICP (bottom driver side). Unhook it after all the fluid is drained and check for sludge. With the factory setup, I had a bunch of gunk in there =/ Sort of makes me question the OEM coolant.
chetrickerman 10-18-2010, 10:59 PM Look in the [service] manual - it's posted (a link to) here on this site. Search for "Coolant Change". Pictures and all.
done. Thanks!
You probably dont' have to remove the bumper. You might be able to just remove the front passenger side undertray. However, it might be difficult to get the drain plug out, and when you do, you'll end up with coolant all over your bumper. Taking the bumper off is a lot easier than it sounds.
Check the radiator hose that feeds near the LICP (bottom driver side). Unhook it after all the fluid is drained and check for sludge. With the factory setup, I had a bunch of gunk in there =/ Sort of makes me question the OEM coolant.
also good info.
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