http://www.breitbart.tv/26-year-old-woman-disabled-by-flu-shot-reaction/

Not getting the shot. I feel bad for her though :(

Something funny about the whole flu shot thing... My one friend's school district pushed really hard to have the flu shot available for all the children. Well guess what... About 85% of his step-daughter's class (around 90 or so kids) is sick at home and missing classes.

It sucks when bad things happen to good people. Being in the military we're mandated to get the vaccine, although we have a the mist instead of the shot, which probably does not make a difference anyway.

Jesus that's awful.

Moreover, you'd have to hold me at gunpoint to get a flu shot, especially the H1N1 flu shot.

thats very odd and terrible. ive gotten the flu shot every year and have yet to get the flu (better safe than sorry) but its depressing watching her try to talk

jesus that sucks.

reminds me on my last deployment in '07 we had to get our small pox vaccine and one of the guys with us had a minor heart attack and developed a sack full of liquid on the bottom of his heart. on the next rotation of people relieving us, a friend of mine had a similar reaction where for about 2 weeks he had chest pain and all this crazy shit and the doctors determined that he literally had a 2 week long very minor heart attack.

crazy ass shit... fuck vaccines.

That is horrible! hopefully it passes soon, and they can find out why exactly that happened. When I was in the Marines they pumped me full of all kinds of crap, Anthrax, Small Pox, etc.... I'm just glad nothing like that happened to me.

I'm seeing a lot of research lately on vaccines and autisim.
Look at the statistics on how much autisim is increasing every year, scary shit.

I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu, but this wouldnt stop me from getting one. when you consider how many thousands/millions of americans get flu shots every year its actually amazing more bad reactions arent reported, most drugs have the potential for side effects hopefully she can get back to a somewhat normal life.

Flu shots still today have not been proven to prevent the Flu. Maybe lessen the severity. As far as vaccines and autism yes there may be a link, but kids could be dying left and right without them. I agree we need to study it more, and find a solution. The world is a better place with vaccines.

I'm sorry, I have to throw in the medical side of things here.

The authors of the papers connecting autism and vaccination have all rescinded their comments, and there has been no evidence of any link.

Vaccinations are generally safe, and the only big issue involves allergy to the substances that the vaccines were manufactured in (eggs in particular). That's why they make you hang around for a couple minutes after getting a shot.

Dystonia is a very complicated disease, which nobody really understands. Although it is awfully suspicious that that poor lady's disease manifested 10 days after a flu shot, nobody can determine whether the vaccine actually caused it. In fact, since the vaccine itself is inactivated flu virus, simply getting the flu could have triggered the same disease. I don't know for sure, obviously, but really all the vaccine does is get your immune system used to a particular pathogen and prepare it for future exposures. If she was predisposed to neurological damage from immune activation in response to an infection, it could have just as easily been caused by getting the flu.

I don't know, I just have an issue with fear-mongering in regards to vaccination. It has saved countless lives (mostly other vaccines, the flu is up in the air), even providing herd-immunity to those stubborn enough not to take advantage of the vaccines we have available. Yes, there are occasional issues, but the vaccination process is pretty damn safe due to regulations.

^Agreed I just did not want to get that technical lol.

Yes I understand that and have heard that same statement before from doctors. I just have a fear of things I don't understand, and have a real hard time taking anyones word for it.

I just look at things differently I guess. I think to myself in 100 years when people look back at our medical treatments what will they say?

"WTF were they thinking using radiation on people to cure cancer?"
"How could they not know those vaccines were making them all retarded?"
"If they only knew those cell phones were slowly destroying there ability to make rational decisions"

Just like we look back now and say;
"Who the hell thought it was a good idea to use leaches to cure people?"
"Wow those old tonics were mostly alcohol and herbs"

Anyways you get what I mean just looking back at all the changes in medicine and the downfall of a lot of societies most of it was from advise from the experts. Those being more advanced than they really should have been.

Hell look at the Romans, they were on top of the world and BAM. All the sudden the richest and most powerfull of them start dying off and can't reproduce. WTF?
Oh yeah I guess eating off of jewel encrusted "Lead" dishes all the time was a bad idea.

Flu shots still today have not been proven to prevent the Flu. Maybe lessen the severity. As far as vaccines and autism yes there may be a link, but kids could be dying left and right without them. I agree we need to study it more, and find a solution. The world is a better place with vaccines.

Maybe you medical guys can help me with this one.
I read an atricle yesterday out side my PA's office about the flu shot and Mercury. It was basically saying the most of what is in the flu shot is a huge dose of Vitamin D, since they have proven people who are Vitamin D defecient are the ones who get it. Then it went on to talk about not getting the shot for several reasons. One being it contains large levels of mercury due to the fact that the vast majority of vitamin D comes from fish oils the comapnys that produce the shot get lots of mercury from it to.

It also went on to talk about dosages and how all people get the same dose. Men, women, children, etc. No matter on age, or body mass everyone the same. This is where the issues of mercury come in and how it can severly effect children and their grey matter.

Any thoughts?

That poor woman; damn that is depressing to see. Perhaps she may have had underlying health issues that she did not know about and getting the flu may have triggered something in her body?

I think the worst shot(s) I've had were definitely my series of Anthrax shots. F that shit dude. For all of you who were not in the military, it feels like someone injecting a syringe full of hot magma into your arm. About 10 minutes after the first shot my arm swelled up like the fvcking hulk and stayed that way for like 5 hours. haha. Id say the only thing worse is what we call in the Marine Corps the "peanut butter shot." Given its name because it feels like someone is injecting peanut butter into you..and it goes into your ass cheek, and the docs show no mercy. That shot will drop you pretty quick, lol.

I work in a hospital ER. I see H1N1 and all the other flu's on a daily basis. Now, I never had a flu vaccine of any kind, our ER does not mandate you need to wear a mask for H1N1, so hospitals do. I know there is generally high risk involved with any vaccine. Generally safe, means you are lucky if you have no side effects.

Only really high risk individuals should be getting the flu vac, the rest should be getting nothing since you immunie system is strong enough if there is no underlying disease processes that would make you at risk if you would get the flu.

This is a terrible case of a adverse reaction, this was not a side effect. A side effect is mild, adverse reactions cause damage to the human body.

I have nothing against people that get vaccinated. But if you don't have to, there is no need to get a vaccine.

As well as the media blew everything out of proportion. H1N1 is just like any other flu, effects the very young, the very old, immunodeficient, and the individuals with underlying complications.

Maybe you medical guys can help me with this one.
I read an atricle yesterday out side my PA's office about the flu shot and Mercury. It was basically saying the most of what is in the flu shot is a huge dose of Vitamin D, since they have proven people who are Vitamin D defecient are the ones who get it. Then it went on to talk about not getting the shot for several reasons. One being it contains large levels of mercury due to the fact that the vast majority of vitamin D comes from fish oils the comapnys that produce the shot get lots of mercury from it to.

It also went on to talk about dosages and how all people get the same dose. Men, women, children, etc. No matter on age, or body mass everyone the same. This is where the issues of mercury come in and how it can severly effect children and their grey matter.

Any thoughts?

If it was from credible journal or source I would maybe believe it, but sometimes these things are published my journalists. Do I know if it true or not, I don't know. However, Mercury does have a poisonous effect in ALL individuals in high does. Read: people with less body mass (children) will be affected more than a adult that gets the same does. (I am talking about average adults and children, not McDonald's fed fat people). I would say it might be a plausible theory, but I doubt there is a way to prove it.

That poor woman; damn that is depressing to see. Perhaps she may have had underlying health issues that she did not know about and getting the flu may have triggered something in her body?

I think the worst shot(s) I've had were definitely my series of Anthrax shots. F that shit dude. For all of you who were not in the military, it feels like someone injecting a syringe full of hot magma into your arm. About 10 minutes after the first shot my arm swelled up like the fvcking hulk and stayed that way for like 5 hours. haha. Id say the only thing worse is what we call in the Marine Corps the "peanut butter shot." Given its name because it feels like someone is injecting peanut butter into you..and it goes into your ass cheek, and the docs show no mercy. That shot will drop you pretty quick, lol.

I feel you on that. You know how they say one round of the 6 shot series is good as long as you get a booster shot yearly? I've had three rounds of the 6 shot series in 3 years. Each time I was heading overseas for something, the freakin army would say it didn't matter that it was in my medical record, I had to do it again. Since I'm technically attached to them when I head out there, I don't have a say in the matter.

If it was from credible journal or source I would maybe believe it, but sometimes these things are published my journalists. Do I know if it true or not, I don't know. However, Mercury does have a poisonous effect in ALL individuals in high does. Read: people with less body mass (children) will be affected more than a adult that gets the same does. (I am talking about average adults and children, not McDonald's fed fat people). I would say it might be a plausible theory, but I doubt there is a way to prove it.

I have to go back and look but I believe it was from the Mayo clinic. The basic point to it was that if people took ownership of their own bodies and kept a healthy diet getting all the vitamins they needed that they wouldn't need the flu vaccine. Overall the majority of people who get the flu are lacking vitamin D in their daily intake because of the lack of the foods that naturally have it in their diet.

I couldn't find it on line but here is some good info on Wiki;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D_and_influenza

I feel you on that. You know how they say one round of the 6 shot series is good as long as you get a booster shot yearly? I've had three rounds of the 6 shot series in 3 years. Each time I was heading overseas for something, the freakin army would say it didn't matter that it was in my medical record, I had to do it again. Since I'm technically attached to them when I head out there, I don't have a say in the matter.

Dude, I had 3 rounds of it in like a span of 4 months! haha.

This story is terribly sad and tragic. Hopefully they will get more help when they go to Mayo clinic.

While I'm not trying to detract from it, I believe a person is more likely to be struck by lightning than have a reaction like this to a flu shot.

I've been vaccinated for the flu with my current company every year like clockwork in October for the past 12 years with no issues. I used to get the flu every couple of years, but since taking flu shots, I've been lucky to not have it once...

The news has been sensationalizing everything around the flu this year, from a gross overreaction about H1N1 to pointing all fingers to the single person who has a terrible reaction to a flu shot amidst thousands who have not.

I'm unware if the flu shot contains supplemental Vitamin D. Vitamin D had been implicated in the functioning of the innate immune system, so there is legitimate theory behind Vit D supplements and the immune system. However, vaccination is an adaptive response.

Although Vit D might be beneficial, it may actually get rid of the vaccine before an adaptive response is formed! This is great if faced with the actual virus, but I predict that it would be detrimental for forming an immunologic memory.

But yes, people should be getting more Vitamin D, which involves diet and going into the sun once and a while! Anything that boosts your immune system, whether innate (Vit D) or adaptive (vaccines) are xPRimNT approved!

Oh, and Clipse.

The reason healthcare providers (I'm not sure exactly what you do) are recommended to get vaccines and wear masks is only slightly targeted to keep you healthy. You are likely quite healthy, late 20's or early 30's, healthy immune system. It's more about the frail 73 year old lady that comes in with a hip fracture. By immunizing healthcare workers, transfer is reduced between patients.

However, I do appreciate your stance on this stuff. The "not for me but I understand why" is fine by me!

So I was browsing the net trying to find a credable source for flu shot ingredients and though I couldn't find any that listed the actual amounts I did come across this. Remember people never take any owrd from the internet as "Truth" do your own research and develop your own educated opnions.

http://drbenkim.com/flu-shot-ingredients-dangers.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5GS7nZi924&feature=player_embedded

that is a sin that poor girl gotta live like that the rest of her life wow unreal

Oh, and Clipse.

The reason healthcare providers (I'm not sure exactly what you do) are recommended to get vaccines and wear masks is only slightly targeted to keep you healthy. You are likely quite healthy, late 20's or early 30's, healthy immune system. It's more about the frail 73 year old lady that comes in with a hip fracture. By immunizing healthcare workers, transfer is reduced between patients.

However, I do appreciate your stance on this stuff. The "not for me but I understand why" is fine by me!

As long as you keep healthy, have a semi good diet, exercise, and not immunodeficient. You should be be okay with any flu to run it's course, unless it is a biological weapon. For health poviders, taking precautions is key. Washing hands, wearing a mask, gloves, etc... goes for every patient you see.

I seen many patients with H1N1, however taking precautions is key. ;) Plus working in a hospital you immune system gets a nice boost and work out most of time from all the bugs it sees, make you a bit more resistant to getting most minor colds and illnesses.