: SSP PRO SST CLUTCH PACKAGE (400whp) Stage 1
SSP Kris 10-23-2009, 08:06 PM SSP is proud to announce the official release of our new SSP PRO SST CLUTCH PACKAGE (400whp) Stage 1. Our new clutch package is the first stage in a long line up of performance products, coming out for the SC-SST transmission.
We now offer a full PDF for the clutch installation
SSP PRO SERIES CLUTCH PACKAGE OFFICIAL RELEASE PRICE w/steels
Retail pricing: 999.00 (12 sets in stock at this price)
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celica2evo 10-23-2009, 08:15 PM nice me likey!
Freebs 10-24-2009, 10:31 PM Never nice... and an even better price :D
I just have to find a shop that can do this for me.. As my engine building, tranny pulling days are over for me.
What is the torque ratting on these? I am looking for around 375-400hp / tq from my MR so these would work for the hp.. but how about the torque rating
hotdog 10-24-2009, 10:36 PM Kris. Dude. Remove that sound from the background on your webpage. I nearly shit myself, all over.
2fst4u 10-25-2009, 01:36 PM Good Stuff.
gmazloom 10-25-2009, 05:47 PM I like them, they are on my car already, 392 WHP
Thank you Kris;-)
evox44 10-25-2009, 06:04 PM ^Nice, can you post more info about your car? mods, tuner, etc.
gmazloom 10-25-2009, 06:58 PM Black EVO X 392 WHP
FP Red turbo
Custom Cold air intake
AMS 02 housing downpipe
MXP test pipe
MXP catback
Nisei UICP-Black
Cosworth MX1 cams
DW 1000cc injecters
Walbro 255LPH high pressure fuel pump
walbro fuel pump housing
AMS FMIC
Whiteline center roll kit
Whiteline 27mm Rear Swaybar
Cobb Accessport
StopTech 6 pistons
Ferodo DS2500 rear brake pads
Enkei NT03
KW clubsports
SSP Clutch
SSP trans cooler
After the install of the clutch (15 hours of labor) i was told to break it in for 100 miles
after that the transmission will slip under high torque, I called Kris at SSP and he explained that the SST needs to be reprogrammed, the clutch works fine but the transmission is programmed for stock power, so Kris called my tuner, Jon (HB SPEED) and they went over the ECU mapping and I end up reducing the WHP 5-8% for now until Jon gets more time to get it done, Also my time was very limited and i was in hurry to get my car out, I was told by Jon that I will get a new map very soon to handle 420whp without problems, I currently don't have the dyno sheets I will be get them very soon
I hope that helped
Yxd68 10-25-2009, 07:43 PM We now offer a full PDF for the clutch installation I would love to read this. Where is this file located?
y2khris 10-27-2009, 03:57 PM Black EVO X 392 WHP
FP Red turbo
Custom Cold air intake
AMS 02 housing downpipe
MXP test pipe
MXP catback
Nisei UICP-Black
Cosworth MX1 cams
DW 1000cc injecters
Walbro 255LPH high pressure fuel pump
walbro fuel pump housing
AMS FMIC
Whiteline center roll kit
Whiteline 27mm Rear Swaybar
Cobb Accessport
StopTech 6 pistons
Ferodo DS2500 rear brake pads
Enkei NT03
KW clubsports
SSP Clutch
SSP trans cooler
After the install of the clutch (15 hours of labor) i was told to break it in for 100 miles
after that the transmission will slip under high torque, I called Kris at SSP and he explained that the SST needs to be reprogrammed, the clutch works fine but the transmission is programmed for stock power, so Kris called my tuner, Jon (HB SPEED) and they went over the ECU mapping and I end up reducing the WHP 5-8% for now until Jon gets more time to get it done, Also my time was very limited and i was in hurry to get my car out, I was told by Jon that I will get a new map very soon to handle 420whp without problems, I currently don't have the dyno sheets I will be get them very soon
I hope that helped
Wow, that sounds hardcore. Were your stock clutches slipping with all that power you were putting down? Let us know how it turned out.
So the Transmission can be reprogramed??
gmazloom 10-27-2009, 11:47 PM I'm not a tuner to tell u exactly how is done but If I'm not wrong its is programed Via the ECU, the only person can help you with that is Kris @SSP
gmazloom 10-27-2009, 11:56 PM yes it was slipping bad, after installing the SSP clutch, that problem was gone but we had to work on the transmission not to disengage, it was matter of 15-20 minutes and the Voila.:-)
will let you know when i get the new map, also HB Speed has 2-3 MRs to tune in the next month or so if im not wrong, keep checking with SSP I'm sure they will post all results.
KingLou 10-27-2009, 11:56 PM So what is upgraded about these clutch packs over stock? Has anyone even determined what the stock clutches can handle with better cooling and reprogramming of the TCU?
I'm just wondering.
KiL
gunzo 10-28-2009, 02:20 PM So what is upgraded about these clutch packs over stock? Has anyone even determined what the stock clutches can handle with better cooling and reprogramming of the TCU?
I'm just wondering.
KiL
600NM at 3500rpms for the stock clutches.. don't know how long it will last though .. :D
all dash items have to be glued down or they become flying hazards :D
KingLou 10-28-2009, 07:11 PM 600NM at 3500rpms for the stock clutches.. don't know how long it will last though .. :D
all dash items have to be glued down or they become flying hazards :D
What is that......about 440 lb-ft? And are you saying that is what you are currently running on the stock clutches, and they have not given out yet?
KiL
DBL R 10-28-2009, 09:03 PM ya I would love to know what kind of numbers people are able to run with the stock clutches...and if it is due to programming or what
gunzo 10-29-2009, 01:38 AM What is that......about 440 lb-ft? And are you saying that is what you are currently running on the stock clutches, and they have not given out yet?
KiL
Don't know what's that in ftlbs .. but sounds about right ..actual wheel is about 360ftlbs ..
The protection feature kicks in once in a while though at 4th gear .. so it seems like its a fine line here ..
If its anyone else .. I'll guarantee they will be posting all over the boards saying their clutches are slipping ;)
y2khris 10-29-2009, 04:15 AM yes it was slipping bad, after installing the SSP clutch, that problem was gone but we had to work on the transmission not to disengage, it was matter of 15-20 minutes and the Voila.:-)
will let you know when i get the new map, also HB Speed has 2-3 MRs to tune in the next month or so if im not wrong, keep checking with SSP I'm sure they will post all results.
What kind of mods do you have and what kind of power are you putting down?
Don't know what's that in ftlbs .. but sounds about right ..actual wheel is about 360ftlbs ..
The protection feature kicks in once in a while though at 4th gear .. so it seems like its a fine line here ..
If its anyone else .. I'll guarantee they will be posting all over the boards saying their clutches are slipping ;)
600nm = 442.5 ft/lb. Chris Cobb is running 400 ft/lb on stock clutches with no problems so far. I'm looking forward to seeing what he gets, supposedly he is doing a fp red very soon.
boostin20 11-01-2009, 01:40 AM Makes me want to get a MR so I can install this.
Cataclysm 11-01-2009, 01:00 AM Good to know there are options out there. This isn't much different than upgrading the clutch packs in a motorcycle.
For now, my 2009 MR remains stock. At most, I'll be getting the Borla cat-back. I have a 550rwhp 2007 Mustang that tests my patience as is. Can't have my DD giving me troubles.
evox44 11-01-2009, 03:54 AM gmazloom, I hope you put down more than 420wtq with those mods and 450whp :D (a normal GSR would probably give 450whp with turbo+cams+supporting mods) MR does have more drivetrain loss, hope this all gets sorted out. (Also dont forget to post pics :D)
^ could you elaborate more on how the MR has more drivetrain loss?
gmazloom 11-01-2009, 01:28 PM We I won't b tuning the car for now, reason being is that it's on the ship on the way to Beirut Lebanon. But as I said HB speed have 2-3 MR to tune in the upcoming weeks and when he figures out how to fully program the trany he will update my map.
Im just waiting.
kozmic27 11-08-2009, 05:14 PM ...it's on the ship on the way to Beirut Lebanon....
Are you having the car armored?
gmazloom 11-08-2009, 05:33 PM Believe it or not Lebanon is very safe. As matter fact Beirut is the number one party city in the world and to prove it to you, google CNN Beirut Lebanon party town, watch those videos
SSP Kris 11-08-2009, 08:03 PM I was relayed the wrong info from the tuner. I apologize. :wallbash:
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DBL R 11-08-2009, 08:09 PM Update:
Dyno day today for the SST with clutch upgraded clutch discs. This SST is running the Pro Red fluid along with the Front mount trans cooler.
EVO SST made 420 whp and 400 foot pounds torque with factory turbo at 26 psi. We are experiencing no clutch slippage at all on all dyno runs. :godance::godance:
We will be posting up information on this.
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those numbers with the factory turbo? wow SSP FTW!
weebles 11-08-2009, 08:38 PM Update:
Dyno day today for the SST with clutch upgraded clutch discs. This SST is running the Pro Red fluid along with the Front mount trans cooler.
EVO SST made 420 whp and 400 foot pounds torque with factory turbo at 26 psi. We are experiencing no clutch slippage at all, on all of our dyno runs. :godance::godance:
We will be posting up information on this.
SSP Performance
I won't be the first to say this but there is no way you guys made 420whp with the stock turbo.
SSP Kris 11-08-2009, 08:50 PM Ssp Performance
john13x 11-09-2009, 12:04 AM I want too see a Dyno video.
weebles 11-09-2009, 10:18 PM I was relayed the wrong info from the tuner. I apologize. :wallbash:
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No worries <3 SSP! :)
Jeremy@SSP 11-11-2009, 04:56 PM My transmission should be here in a couple hrs.....Shipped it out last week for Kris to install clutches and steels. Cant wait to start putting it back in.
kozmic27 11-12-2009, 10:37 PM Believe it or not Lebanon is very safe. As matter fact Beirut is the number one party city in the world and to prove it to you, google CNN Beirut Lebanon party town, watch those videos
I was just giving you a hard time. I have very close friend who lived in Lebanon for 13 years (Hamana), about a 30 minute drive east, in the mountains. You could see the road to Damascus bridge from her roof. You should see the looks at the Arabic restaraunt when the blond blue eyed chick speaks arabic to them. LoL.
gmazloom 11-12-2009, 10:45 PM So u know how it is there now? My closest friend from hammana to.
kozmic27 11-14-2009, 01:36 PM So u know how it is there now? My closest friend from hammana to.
We still have friends that live there, so yes.
Jeremy@SSP 11-14-2009, 09:36 PM Installing the trans today, cant wait to get her back together.
DBL R 11-15-2009, 02:00 AM So close to dyno videos :)
Great work so far fellas. Keep it up and keep us posted
kozmic27 11-15-2009, 07:05 PM Great work so far fellas. Keep it up and keep us posted
Having a dyno graph showing when the new clutch pack slips would be helpful to tuners who can then tune the car just under that level.
Also, since you have a Stage 1 clutch, there must be a Stage 2. Any hints on when? Christmas maybe?
Jeremy@SSP 11-15-2009, 07:31 PM Having a dyno graph showing when the new clutch pack slips would be helpful to tuners who can then tune the car just under that level.
Also, since you have a Stage 1 clutch, there must be a Stage 2. Any hints on when? Christmas maybe?
Yes, both of the SSP Evo X MRs both have Stage 1 SSP clutch packs. Stage 2 is undergoing testing at this time. We're currently working on new software development so we can offer that as part of the stage 2 upgrade :thumbup: Can't give you hint's on a release date yet.
jzack 11-17-2009, 04:43 AM how long does an install take?
Jeremy@SSP 11-17-2009, 02:29 PM how long does an install take?
12 professional hours. Keep in mind your pulling the motor and trans from your car. If all this seems a bit over whelming for you, we can help there too. SSP can arange for pick up and transport of your entire car, or just the transmission for those who are mechanically inclined. And if those options don't work for you, we can even fly to your location for the install !! Seriously.....we've flown all the way to Hong Kong to install clutch packs before.
DBL R 11-17-2009, 04:27 PM 12 professional hours. Keep in mind your pulling the motor and trans from your car. If all this seems a bit over whelming for you, we can help there too. SSP can arange for pick up and transport of your entire car, or just the transmission for those who are mechanically inclined. And if those options don't work for you, we can even fly to your location for the install !! Seriously.....we've flown all the way to Hong Kong to install clutch packs before.
Well you might be coming to little Wenatchee Washington
anyone in California certified to install those clutch packs?
gmazloom 11-17-2009, 04:53 PM Yes SP Eng (626)*333-5398
bit pricy but they do great job
Jeremy@SSP 11-17-2009, 05:58 PM anyone in California certified to install those clutch packs?
HB speed (ask for John)
www.hbspeed.com (http://www.hbspeed.com)
10595 Lawson River Ave, Fountain Vally, CA 92708
Phone: 714-378-3966
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Works Motorsports
Worksmotorsports.com:
29673 Arnold Dr. Sonoma, CA 95476
Phone: 415.226.2500 E-Mail: info@worksmotorsports.com
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www.sp-power.com (http://www.sp-power.com)
424 Turnbull Canyon Rd. City of Industry, CA 91745
Phone: 626-333-5398 (ask for Eugene)
eugene@sp-power.com
Scooter 11-17-2009, 06:04 PM Works Motorsports
Worksmotorsports.com:
29673 Arnold Dr. Sonoma, CA 95476
Phone: 415.226.2500
Fax: 415.226.2501
E-Mail: info@worksmotorsports.com
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SP Engineering
www.sp-power.com (http://www.sp-power.com)
424 Turnbull Canyon Rd. City of Industry, CA 91745
Phone: 626-333-5398 (ask for Eugene)
eugene@sp-power.com
How about Florida?? Some of us live on the other side of the country. :D
Jeremy@SSP 11-17-2009, 06:15 PM How about Florida?? Some of us live on the other side of the country. :D
As for Florida we would recommend
Horse Power Logic
www.horsepowerlogic.com
583 105th Ave. N unit #6, Royal Palm Beach, FL 33411
Phone: 561-842-8333 (ask for Jack)
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gunzo 12-23-2009, 03:34 AM Kris .. just a question .. why is the top steel plates from the clutches need to be reused ??
The thickness is different from the other steel pieces .. any reason why the 2 pieces were not included ?? Can we change that steel piece too ?
TheSin - Did you change all the steel or followed the instructions ?
Thanks and merry christmas
Modify 12-23-2009, 09:36 AM Kris .. just a question .. why is the top steel plates from the clutches need to be reused ??
The thickness is different from the other steel pieces .. any reason why the 2 pieces were not included ?? Can we change that steel piece too ?
TheSin - Did you change all the steel or followed the instructions ?
Thanks and merry christmas
The freeplay of the hydraulic piston will be adjusted with the thickness of the top steel plate (for both clutches).
They are mostlikely always different.
Regards
Modify
gunzo 12-23-2009, 11:33 AM The freeplay of the hydraulic piston will be adjusted with the thickness of the top steel plate (for both clutches).
They are mostlikely always different.
Regards
Modify
Doesn't make sense then because all the rest of the steel can be slightly thicker so there is less free play
Does that mean then the thicker steel will also mean higher clamp force or this is regardless ?
Is the pressure plate fail open or fail close ??
If it fails open, then the thickness of the plates will have little effect because it is pressurised closed..
If it fails close, then the thickness will affect the eventual torque holding capabilities .. plus the likelihood of binding if its too much ..
Modify 12-23-2009, 02:09 PM Doesn't make sense then because all the rest of the steel can be slightly thicker so there is less free play
Does that mean then the thicker steel will also mean higher clamp force or this is regardless ?
Is the pressure plate fail open or fail close ??
If it fails open, then the thickness of the plates will have little effect because it is pressurised closed..
If it fails close, then the thickness will affect the eventual torque holding capabilities .. plus the likelihood of binding if its too much ..
The clutch is normally open, or as you said failed open.
But the touchpoint of clutch is affected by the thickness of the whole clutch pack. And always remember, there is Software in the trans, which deals with clutch torque, therefore the sw has to know, where the touchpoint is.
Regards
Modify
gunzo 12-26-2009, 10:19 AM The clutch is normally open, or as you said failed open.
But the touchpoint of clutch is affected by the thickness of the whole clutch pack. And always remember, there is Software in the trans, which deals with clutch torque, therefore the sw has to know, where the touchpoint is.
Regards
Modify
OK .,. thanks for the info .. the clutchpacks are installed ..
I'll change the touchpoint and see how it affects the engagement ..
I'll see how much more I can get out of this gearbox then ..
If its much more .. then I'll change my clutches too ..
And a Merry Christmas to you too ..
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