so last nite im driving my car i get home and then nothing my car wont go into gear. i can start my car with the clutch in and then nothing the car wont go into gear. so this is what i have to do put my car in first push the clutch in just for the car to start and the car rolls forward and it starts while in gear i then i have to slip it into gear without using the pedal. so the clutch isnt slipping at all while its in gear but i dont know whats up with the pedal so then im thinking its the master cylinder but i dont know. i have a fx300 clutch masters and i dont have the ams ring on the master cylinder.

All I can tell you is that when my master cylinder burst, the peda lost all pressure and went straight to the floor and stayed there until I reached down and pulled it back up with my hand.

Assuming you still are on the stock clutch, I don't think there's anything wrong with your X. I've been facing the exact same thing every morning for over 45000 miles. It's been like that when it was brand new, and it still is the same now.

It gets easier to engage if you do change your gearbox oil and then progressively harder to engage as the mileage piles up.

All in all, definately nothing to do with the master cylinder.

Assuming you still are on the stock clutch, I don't think there's anything wrong with your X. I've been facing the exact same thing every morning for over 45000 miles. It's been like that when it was brand new, and it still is the same now.

It gets easier to engage if you do change your gearbox oil and then progressively harder to engage as the mileage piles up.

All in all, definately nothing to do with the master cylinder.


Nothigng wrong with his X are you nuts??? ya dude that doesnt sound good at all, are you saying when you engage your clutch and go to put it in first is wont go in?

Nothigng wrong with his X are you nuts??? ya dude that doesnt sound good at all, are you saying when you engage your clutch and go to put it in first is wont go in?

Yup, nothing wrong at all. A notchy, impossible to shift unless you force it in, cold transmission is the norm for an X. It gets better as the transmission warms up though.

yeah dude it sounds like the master cylinder. thats mitsubishis great cost saving idea of a plastic master cylinder. from what i've found the options for the MC are OEM plastic:(, Evo IX $$$, and someone on the M used a Tilton MC but I dont remember which one. Oh and SSP and AMI are working on one if you can wait, it should be a direct bolton swap if I remember correctly.

EDIT: found the SSP/AMI thread http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20514&highlight=master+cylinder&page=11

He mentions nothing about his car being cold, he states he was just driving it. I understand what your sayin and how its a bitch, but something must be wrong with your cars b/c under cold start up its a pain but still goes into gear and isnt that much of a struggle.

He mentions nothing about his car being cold, he states he was just driving it. I understand what your sayin and how its a bitch, but something must be wrong with your cars b/c under cold start up its a pain but still goes into gear and isnt that much of a struggle.

my bad. i was fixated on the impossible to shift transmission when cold transmission :nerd: and lost focus of his situation.

pleasseee don't let this be another typical evo problem. we already have a notchy/grindy gearbox, chance of fire from the fuel pipe, cheap fuel pump relay, and bursting master clutch cylinders. my heart can't take much more of this.

You should try to get the 9 master cylinder upgrade now that yours is shot.

Oh and just so you know........the AMS ring does not stop this from going out. Its a common misconception

ok so the car is at mitshu right now they say it both the slave and master cylinder. funny thing is on my way to the shop bang somehow it freed up and the clutch started working again wierd. and props to dan georger mitshu ted the shop manager is the man. he asked if i had a extended warranty i said no he said dont worry about it lol. all the guys love my car. ill post again when i get the car back.

so finally got the car back. just put in a new clutch replaced my old clutch masters fx300 with a spec 3+. got the clutch masters light weight flywheel resurfaced. overall i love this clutch. its really hard to get used to the instant engagment but overall doing good. cant wait to get her broken in. so the problem with my car was of course the clutch was going and also my release bearing in the pressure plate pulled out. i wonder if clutch masters would reimburse me???

how many miles were on your clutch masters clutch?

I doubt it. My clutch releases early also and I wouldnt have it any other way. Yeah it was a PITA to get used to but I like it.

Joey have you had any issues with your MC?

Also interested if MC work properly with AMS ring?

Interesting to hear, thanks for the follow-up. In my last car, I had a similar issue when the MC started to go, but then it got better the next morning and was fine for another 2 weeks when I was going UPHILL in traffic and the pedal went to the floor. About 1/4 mile from my highway entrance. Thank god I didn't get on the highway!! And of course it happened literally 10 feet past the shop I was going to bring her to for a new clutch anyway. UGH!! So I couldn't even roll back into the shop in traffic...hahaha

Also interested if MC work properly with AMS ring?
I've had my MC fixed with AMS ring and it lasted only 3 or so months. Mind you, in Moscow there's lots of traffic, so half the time you're in a traffic jam, so lots of stress on the clutch.
I was hoping that the AMS ring would solve it, but no - the other day my second MC died.
I guess, I'll have to change another one until they release an aluminum one.

Thanks for information Mojito. I am waiting for my ring and hope it will last for some time.

i had about 20 k on the clutch. so it lasted a while. but wierd how the release bearing pulled out.

ill post some pics tommorow

Well... without driving your car I cant give you too much advice. A clutch should begin to engage about 1/2 the way up from the floor and be fully caught a little before being fully released. There should be just a tad-bit of play in the pedal at the top, and at the bottom. Also if it wasnt working properly before i.e. your master cylinder going bad then it would be hard to compare now and then.