: First track day, what do I need.


linjy2
10-30-2009, 07:15 AM
Ok, I am planning to do a road course with some of my buddies.

What should i prepare for or bring? Do I need to flush my coolant to some type of redline water wetter?

Do I need to get new pads? I have 8600miles on the stocker.
What pads and fluid do you guys recommend?

I already have coilovers so i plan to readjust my settings with more camber and a new alignment. probably -2.5f -1.5r

got a new set of z1 starspec, so rubbers are good to go.

How many gallons of gas do we typically go through? i'm probably going to bring two 5 gallon of gas plus one full tank. overkill or just right?

other stuff i'm bringing, chair, food, helmet, gloves, shoes, jackstand, racing jack.

MrBonus
10-30-2009, 11:32 AM
The OEM pads aren't optimal but they'll work for your first event. I personally run PFC01/97s but that's probably overkill for your first event. If I were to buy a fresh set of track pads for street tires, I would try Carbotech XP10/8s or 12/10s.

As for fluid, I like ATE Super Blue/Gold. It's cheap and has a high boiling point. Motul RPF600 is also nice and has a slightly higher boiling point but is more expensive. I recommend flushing your fluid frequently between events. I usually do it after every 2 day event.

Be prepared to go through a few tanks of gas per day. Due to our car's tendencies to slosh fuel off the pick up, I fill up after every session (I usually blow through a half tank every 30 minutes on-track). Your track should have a gas pump although expect to be gouged by their prices.

Don't spend too much time fiddling with your coilovers. You want to learn to drive your car. There are already going to be so many variables from lap to lap that rebound and compression adjustments are the last thing you need to touch from session to session.

Otherwise, it looks like you've got everything you need. A handful of tools to fix minor problems may also be useful too. Don't forget your tire pressure gauge; you'll want to check your pressure before and after every session.

kuvesh
10-30-2009, 05:02 PM
prob good to put in some steel braided brake lines. the first time i went to the track with my evo x i boiled the brake fluid and i have seen a few of my friends do the same their first time out. otherwise stock setup should do the trick for a fun day.

also dont tun on less than 1/2 tank fuel otherwise risk fuel starvation which is quite common especially on fast hairpins.

linjy2
10-30-2009, 05:30 PM
do you know where i can buy the pads and fluid for cheap online? pm me

i'm going to copy your setup then mrbonus, ate super blue and pfc01/97s, can i run these on the street or u recommend swapping out?


i dont really want to mess with the braided lines just yet, with the upgraded fluid, i dont think i will boil them anymore, at least i hope so.

i guess i'll need to make sure to bring enough fuel since i'm running e85.

MrBonus
10-30-2009, 11:58 PM
prob good to put in some steel braided brake lines. the first time i went to the track with my evo x i boiled the brake fluid and i have seen a few of my friends do the same their first time out. otherwise stock setup should do the trick for a fun day.

also dont tun on less than 1/2 tank fuel otherwise risk fuel starvation which is quite common especially on fast hairpins.

I agree with your fuel comment. I've hit fuel starvation and with linjy2's big power setup, he will not want to risk running abruptly lean.

However, stainless steel lines are for feel but they won't affect fluid boiling. Fluid boiling is a function of temperatures and your fluid's resistance. Running hotter pads without the right fluid can lead to boiling as can inadequate cooling. I've been pretty fortunate but will be running the OEM cooling guides next season.
do you know where i can buy the pads and fluid for cheap online? pm me

i'm going to copy your setup then mrbonus, ate super blue and pfc01/97s, can i run these on the street or u recommend swapping out?


i dont really want to mess with the braided lines just yet, with the upgraded fluid, i dont think i will boil them anymore, at least i hope so.

i guess i'll need to make sure to bring enough fuel since i'm running e85.

You can get the PFC pads from AMS. You'll need Girodisc pad adapters for the rear as PFC does not have an X-specific rear pad yet.

You can run them on the street but they are going to make a ton of noise and dust. They'll be downright obnoxious, especially if the car is a daily driver. The dust will also tear up your wheels, paint, and accelerate wear on rotors during normal street driving. I recommend keeping a spare set of street pads around.

Also, considering the noise they'll make, don't bother putting your shims back in. Just drop the pads in and punch the retaining pins back in. They'll clunk a bit but with the amount of noise they make, who cares?

I get Super Blue from ogracing.com. I usually order it in bulk, alternating between blue and gold for ease of flushing. You should be able to bleed the brakes with just under a full liter. I usually use a power bleeder for ease.

GSXR
11-02-2009, 05:41 AM
Make sure you start with a full tank on every session especially if you're running e85. You may not even make the full session without fuel starvation depending on the track. On my first session, I started at 3/4 tank on 91 and I fuel starved 10 minutes into the session. For the rest of the sessions, I filled the tank and never had an issue. I must have gone thru 20-25 gallons so if you're running e85, I'd bring at least 30 gallons.

I'm pretty hard on brakes and I used the ATE blue without boiling. No stainless lines - wasn't an issue. My problem was with brake fade and chatter. I used the Carbotech XP10/XP8 combo and they turned ash white. I also officially have Brownbos after one track day. If I had better cooling the pads should have been fine. I only got fade near the end of each session. I'd recommend getting the cooling scoops and removing the brake shields or get some cooling ducts. Slotted rotors also help keep them cool.

ripnbst
12-04-2009, 03:36 PM
Wow, if you are running the ring you will definately need lots of fuel. Much more than an extra 10 gals. Along with shoes and gloves I also recomend a shirt and pants. Your fellow drivers will thank you for bringing and using those items:thumbup:

Sounds like you have everything you need. I would recomend some common tools as was already mentioned. I would get some brake cooling ducting in there, ESPECIALLY if you are on the ring. The speeds you will see on that course brake heat is going to be a real issue. Good luck and let us know how it goes.