Hi guys,

Just incase any of you are interested in these MMC approved items that will not (should not) void your warrentee, here are the part numbers.


Front Strut brace.MZ568879


Rear Strut brace MZ574598


Side mirrors with indicators, unfortunately I have been given several part numbers for these which relate to colour codes ( I'll confirm colours soon). MZ587367 MZ587360 MZ587369 MZ587370 MZ587363


Pod Guages (X 3) (Psi, Oil and water temp) MZ592100
I'll let you know the final price I pay for these in two days although it will be in NZ$. I am expecting them to be more expensive than normal because it will be through NZ MMC and installed by them.

Hi guys,

Just incase any of you are interested in these MMC approved items that will not (should not) void your warrentee, here are the part numbers.

Front Strut brace.MZ568879Is this the stock one or an upgraded one?




Side mirrors with indicators, unfortunately I have been given several part numbers for these which relate to colour codes ( I'll confirm colours soon). MZ587367 MZ587360 MZ587369 MZ587370 MZ587363[/quote]

Awesome. I'll probably be picking these up if the price is reasonable.

Pod Guages (X 3) (Psi, Oil and water temp) MZ592100

Post pics of these when you get them.

Rear Strut Brace... why? they already have the chassis frame (thick bracing) go right over the struts on the X. I wouldn't dive on that option at all.

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I think this is upgraded, but Im still waiting for the details to come through.

Rear Strut Brace... why? they already have the chassis frame (thick bracing) go right over the struts on the X. I wouldn't dive on that option at all.

Yes I do know the evoX is supposidly 65% more ridged than the IX.
'But you can never be too stiff'

I'm planning some decent tracktime against a few mates that have Ferraris, Audi rs4's and R8's, so I do want as much traction as I can while hard cornering.

Awesome, side mirrors with indicators - that'll be my 1st mod :)

Mitsu should've fitted the cars with these from factory, like just about every other new car out there :)

There is such a thing as too stiff...however that will overcome the predisposition to Understeer from the Factory...A lot of cars are being built to understeer from the factory...Anyone remember the old S13 @_@...Better yet Nissan Sentra SE-R's X_X

There is such a thing as too stiff...

Is there? I'm no suspension expert, but it was my understanding that the stiffer the chassis the better, as any "flexing" should be the job of the suspension.

Is there? I'm no suspension expert, but it was my understanding that the stiffer the chassis the better, as any "flexing" should be the job of the suspension.

Yes I was under this impression also. ie you have the chassis as stiff as possible, then you use tune the suspension setup to suit..

But in saying that I think I read somewhere that the stiffest settings aren't preferable for drag strip racing, as you want some squatting and with a really stiff chassis the load transfer happens too quickly? (This will probably need to be clarified or disputed by a dragger in here). But thats what the forums here for to encourage knowledge sharing and discussion. I'm by no means a seasoned racer of any sort.

Why do I see no pics???!!?

It is my understanding that the evo x already has a v-brace behind the rear seats, which usually incorporates a strut bar. I have the cusco v-brace in my sti, and it bolts to the rear strut bar. Without the rear strut bar, there can be no v-brace. So, with that being said, to whoever said that you don't want the car to be too stiff, that is incorrect. Even in drag racing, a stiff chassis is beneficial. Strut bars and other chassis stiffeners have little to no effect on front to back weight transfer. They affect the side to side weight transfer. Going back to the drag racing thing, if you've ever seen insanely high powered rear wheel drive cars pop up into a wheelie on launch, you've most likely noticed that the chassis actually twists sometimes, which is terrible for the car. It can cause permanent damage, and having stiff lateral bracing can help combat this tweaking of the chassis. Typically, the only reason these cars sometimes don't have these braces is for weight reduction. Sad to subject the car to damage just for that .0001 second difference, but that's what drag racing is all about. Hope this was helpful, and let me know about the rear strut bar thing, pics please.

Awesome, side mirrors with indicators - that'll be my 1st mod :)

Mitsu should've fitted the cars with these from factory, like just about every other new car out there :)

agreed!

Pricing arrived: ($NZ)
Frt strut brace $740.00 + gst
RR strut brace $720.00 + gst
Gauge pod set $1200.00 + gst
Exterior mirrors $465.00 + gst per pair



Note.. guages cant be mounted on the A Pillar if you have airbags there.
Will have to find somewhere else.. the stock place is to be mounted in the Single Din spot.. unfortunatley mines double DIN..



Note 2:
NZ WOF laws disallows having a you cannot have a guard repeater(which the X has) as well as an indicator on the mirrors, therefore it would not be able to pass its warrant .. plan B is to remove the guard indicator.

^ a bit pricey mate.

Is there? I'm no suspension expert, but it was my understanding that the stiffer the chassis the better, as any "flexing" should be the job of the suspension.


I was saying more from a stand point of civility....From a performance stand point I believe if theres too much stiffness eventually the car will oversteer or under steer all the time...because theres no flex or giving.....Basically the weight shifting techniques of racing become unuseable and if you've learned to drive counting on for example the weight to shift to use tire rebound then you end up just spinning.

Plus theres also the possibility that if nothings giving then it has nothing to do but snap? Now I know this is probably incredibly hard to do but thinking of it a little less then that....If you hit something in a Chassis that gives a bit then the risk of bending isnt as great as that in a chassis thats 100% stiff get what I'm saying?

I guess another way to look at it if 100% chassis stiffness was good wouldnt all manufactures do it...I do not know of a 100 % chassis stiff car other then maybe full blown acid-dipped race cars.

Also just for those that might not know. A strut bar limits the travel vertically and horizontally between the two towers of the suspension. The Pros obviously stated stiffer chassis less body roll improved turn-in responce

I was saying more from a stand point of civility....From a performance stand point I believe if theres too much stiffness eventually the car will oversteer or under steer all the time...because theres no flex or giving.....Basically the weight shifting techniques of racing become unuseable and if you've learned to drive counting on for example the weight to shift to use tire rebound then you end up just spinning.

Weight shifting is a function of suspension.

Also keep in mind that the X is far more rigid than the IX, and it handles even better..

Plus theres also the possibility that if nothings giving then it has nothing to do but snap?

Again, that's what the suspension is for.

I guess another way to look at it if 100% chassis stiffness was good wouldnt all manufactures do it...

Well, there's no such thing as 100% stiff. That's like saying you're making an engine that makes 100% horsepower. 100% of what?

Also, there are flaws in your logic. You're assuming that if manufacturers CAN do something that they will.

That said, universally, almost all car chassis are getting stiffer as time goes on.

Weight shifting is a function of suspension.

Also keep in mind that the X is far more rigid than the IX, and it handles even better..



Again, that's what the suspension is for.



Well, there's no such thing as 100% stiff. That's like saying you're making an engine that makes 100% horsepower. 100% of what?

Also, there are flaws in your logic. You're assuming that if manufacturers CAN do something that they will.

That said, universally, almost all car chassis are getting stiffer as time goes on.


Okay so they are using percentage as a comparison number not a value itself.

IE the X chassis is 69% stiffer then the IX....But it could be said 100% stiffer then to...

When I made the assumption about manufacturers applying and not apply what they know I was doing it under there very best of cars the car they absolutely want to shine no matter what (I understand this hits wall in there ability to go somewhere with improving the car in different years and trims) ...not the family carrier.

Well I guess I'll say this much I know I wouldnt want a chassis that was way to stiff...something just doesnt sound right about it...maybe I'm weird in that respect.

^ a bit pricey mate.

Youre telling me!!.. I suppose factory options via dealers are always more expensive than aftermarket.

When I made the assumption about manufacturers applying and not apply what they know I was doing it under there very best of cars the car they absolutely want to shine no matter what

Yes I agree, I wish manufactures had that purist view, creating the best of the best etc etc, IMO, the reality is though that the best car they would absolutley want would cost too much to make and to sell. Theres economies of scale in the mix, making the 'perfect' car will cost too much, (think Bugatti Veyron).

There will always be an aftermarket market because of that, ie everyone wants to 'better' or to personalise their purchases because products cannot be released 'perfect' from factory and those that come close cost an arm and a leg.

You want the body, stiff as possible. Also you want to keep the suspension geometry stay, as much as possible even under hard loading. So the strut bars etc. will always help for handling.

i like the triangle strut bars . i think they are the most effective ones. Funny but i think the factory front is seeems enough for me . and the rear i use the cusco one. / i have IX by the way/

Hi guys,

Just incase any of you are interested in these MMC approved items that will not (should not) void your warrentee, here are the part numbers.

Front Strut brace.MZ568879
Rear Strut brace MZ574598
Side mirrors with indicators, unfortunately I have been given several part numbers for these which relate to colour codes ( I'll confirm colours soon). MZ587367 MZ587360 MZ587369 MZ587370 MZ587363
Pod Guages (X 3) (Psi, Oil and water temp) MZ592100I'll let you know the final price I pay for these in two days although it will be in NZ$. I am expecting them to be more expensive than normal because it will be through NZ MMC and installed by them.
Right on this is good to know. :thumbup:

I'm planning some decent tracktime against a few mates that have Ferraris, Audi rs4's and R8's, so I do want as much traction as I can while hard cornering.

All you need is 18x11s with 335s, they won't know what hit em... :godance:

I priced out the MZ592100 from MMNA,,,it was $1815.19 USD!!!! OMG

Hi guys,

Side mirrors with indicators, unfortunately I have been given several part numbers for these which relate to colour codes ( I'll confirm colours soon). MZ587367 MZ587360 MZ587369 MZ587370 MZ587363I'll let you know the final price I pay for these in two days although it will be in NZ$. I am expecting them to be more expensive than normal because it will be through NZ MMC and installed by them.


I installed my mirrors this past weekend along with my other goodies... NOT A FUN INSTALL at all, but i did take pics and will have a HOW-TO soon.

Here are the part numbers in relation to colors:

MZ587367 - White Pearl
MZ587360 - Cool Silver Metallic
MZ587369 - Lightning Blue Mica
MZ587370 - Phantom Black Pearl
MZ587363 - Rally Red Metallic

Not sure how close the color match is to USDM colors, but my red ones matched perfectly...

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/15351/Picture%20051.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/15351/Picture%20052.jpg

oh.. very nice.. Im hoping to install my mirrors in a couple of weeks.
They are just thinking of shaving off my other side indicators to pass legal requirements.

I priced out the MZ592100 from MMNA,,,it was $1815.19 USD!!!! OMG

wow.. way over priced.

My pricing was - Gauge pod set $1200.00 + gst (in$NZ) = US$947

I installed my mirrors this past weekend along with my other goodies... NOT A FUN INSTALL at all, but i did take pics and will have a HOW-TO soon.

Here are the part numbers in relation to colors:

MZ587367 - White Pearl
MZ587360 - Cool Silver Metallic
MZ587369 - Lightning Blue Mica
MZ587370 - Phantom Black Pearl
MZ587363 - Rally Red Metallic

Not sure how close the color match is to USDM colors, but my red ones matched perfectly...

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/15351/Picture%20051.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/15351/Picture%20052.jpg


Nice, can't wait to see how-to #2.

I'll be honest as nifty as that looks that is definately one of those not my cup of teas....it looks like they cut a little section out of the stock mirror and fit a light in there...It looks great for you man but I'll definately skip out on side-mirror blinkers...besides and upgrade to a CF one would be easier HAHAHAHA

I installed my mirrors this past weekend along with my other goodies... NOT A FUN INSTALL at all, but i did take pics and will have a HOW-TO soon.

Here are the part numbers in relation to colors:

MZ587367 - White Pearl
MZ587360 - Cool Silver Metallic
MZ587369 - Lightning Blue Mica
MZ587370 - Phantom Black Pearl
MZ587363 - Rally Red Metallic



How much was it?

Do you think it would look bad to have a WW EVO X with PB Side mirrors?

Is there any way you can get the part number for the auto folding mirrors that the USDM folks dont get?

Is there any way you can get the part number for the auto folding mirrors that the USDM folks dont get?
:+1:

?Really? Didnt the US get autofolding mirrors?

I had a quick look through the catalogue I had.. no part numbers for the 'normal' folding mirrors. There seemed to be electric adjusting mirrors.. but it didnt seem to indicate that it could fold.