I read that the 2010 MR is faster to 60 due to a reprogramed SST ? Has anyone else heard this ? It may have been japlonik....additionally can we reprogram our 2008 SSTs ?? Anyone Anyone ???

I don't think it would make the car any faster. The SST already shifts stupid fast, and at redline...saving a few miliseconds more wouldn't equate to a different 0-60 time

it stated the 0-60 had dropped to 4.5 due to software changes. Can you reread what you wrote becouse if you shave a few milliseconds that would result in a lower 0-60 time durr.;)

He he ok it was on here, this is the article...
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=10&article_id=8461

You could dial in a little more psi in first gear than how the 08' is programmed to give you that result.

Yeah I saw that Road and Track article and mentioned the faster times in another tread as well. Hope we can get the 2010 flash for our 08s. I think the 60 time was 4.6sec.

You could dial in a little more psi in first gear than how the 08' is programmed to give you that result.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!!! Seriously guys, get a tune...hell grab gunzo's base maps and throw them on your car and you'll see a big difference already. There's a whole lot of us who are doing 4.6-4.8s, 0-60 runs WITHOUT launch control.

verkion

Already have a tune wise guy!! Do some reading!!

it stated the 0-60 had dropped to 4.5 due to software changes. Can you reread what you wrote becouse if you shave a few milliseconds that would result in a lower 0-60 time durr.;)

A few milliseconds may not result in a change of the posted 0-60 time.
4.84 vs 4.81 is still 4.8 seconds. Make sense?

I don't care what Road and Track has stated. Different tests, different cars, different venue, different conditions blah blah blah = comparison to 2 years go not valid.

Well what I am interested in is if there actually is a programming change for 2010. I agree I am not concerned about milliseconds, tenths yes. If it is just a enviormental or tuning difference regarding the engine, ok I will buy that to a degree. What I was originally asking is if they have tweaked the tranny alone or is this just a engine retune issue. Of course the it will be faster if the engine is producing more power but I want to know if there has been some changes to how the tranny engages and shifts. FYI I am not trying to be a dick I am just a blunt and impolite engineer sometimes.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!!! Seriously guys, get a tune...hell grab gunzo's base maps and throw them on your car and you'll see a big difference already. There's a whole lot of us who are doing 4.6-4.8s, 0-60 runs WITHOUT launch control.

verkion

Whoa without launch Control!?!?

^yes its doable ;)

I'm going to have to talk to Gunzo

Well what I am interested in is if there actually is a programming change for 2010. I agree I am not concerned about milliseconds, tenths yes. If it is just a enviormental or tuning difference regarding the engine, ok I will buy that to a degree. What I was originally asking is if they have tweaked the tranny alone or is this just a engine retune issue. Of course the it will be faster if the engine is producing more power but I want to know if there has been some changes to how the tranny engages and shifts. FYI I am not trying to be a dick I am just a blunt and impolite engineer sometimes.

I guess no one knows..... I know I dont, but I would like to. Is the TCU programmed differently for 10's than 08's?

I guess no one knows..... I know I dont, but I would like to. Is the TCU programmed differently for 10's than 08's?

Im still looking for this answer...:whipping:

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Im still looking for this answer...:whipping:

no definitive answer to your questions .. BUT

The 09 / 10 cars are fast out of the box compared to the 07/08's

Once tuned .. the difference is very glaring .. the 09/10 cars gets trashed big time by the older cars ..

There's quite a few more limiters on the 09/10 roms than the 07/08 .. probably didn't expect people like us to mess with the ECU when they launched the X :bowlol:

I don't own a 09/ 10 so its the least of my priorities :yay:

no definitive answer to your questions .. BUT

The 09 / 10 cars are fast out of the box compared to the 07/08's

Once tuned .. the difference is very glaring .. the 09/10 cars gets trashed big time by the older cars ..

There's quite a few more limiters on the 09/10 roms than the 07/08 .. probably didn't expect people like us to mess with the ECU when they launched the X :bowlol:

I don't own a 09/ 10 so its the least of my priorities :yay:

So your saying, a stock 09-10 is quicker than a stock 07-08?
But 07-08s are much more responsive to mods because the newer roms on the 09-10s are more limiting?

no definitive answer to your questions .. BUT

The 09 / 10 cars are fast out of the box compared to the 07/08's

Once tuned .. the difference is very glaring .. the 09/10 cars gets trashed big time by the older cars ..

There's quite a few more limiters on the 09/10 roms than the 07/08 .. probably didn't expect people like us to mess with the ECU when they launched the X :bowlol:

I don't own a 09/ 10 so its the least of my priorities :yay:dont worry buddy you can help me
:neener:

Supposedly the 2010 MR is tuned to allow 1st gear to launch with more torque. The 2008-2009 MR had the torque limited in 1st gear to save the transmission. This is what one of the guys at Mitsubishi head office told me. Maybe it is true.

I think someone posted that the 2010s run a little leaner at the midrange\ beginning to get into boost. This may account for that.

Link:
http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=89148.0

no definitive answer to your questions .. BUT

The 09 / 10 cars are fast out of the box compared to the 07/08's

Once tuned .. the difference is very glaring .. the 09/10 cars gets trashed big time by the older cars ..

There's quite a few more limiters on the 09/10 roms than the 07/08 .. probably didn't expect people like us to mess with the ECU when they launched the X :bowlol:

I don't own a 09/ 10 so its the least of my priorities :yay:

Sorry for the n00b question: Just to be sure. These limiters you mention... they are linked directly to the SST tranny, right? And therefore these limiters are nowhere to be found on the 2010 GSR model, correct? (I plan on putting down an order for an 2010 GSR in 3 months from now)

B/R,
Frederik Dannemare, Sweden

Supposedly the 2010 MR is tuned to allow 1st gear to launch with more torque. The 2008-2009 MR had the torque limited in 1st gear to save the transmission. This is what one of the guys at Mitsubishi head office told me. Maybe it is true.

you got it wrong way round.. the 2010 models are limited..

Stock for stock the 2010 is better because of slightly better mapping ..
tune up both and you'll see the difference between the 2 ..

I'm just lazy to figure it out as I have to send myfindings to HBSPeed.. he does everything and let me know the outcome..

I'd be more proactive if I am running the 2010 roms in my car :D .. then I'll be really quick to remove any limits .

GSRs have another form of limiter though .. but its not hard limit ;)
You overtorque and the ecu limits you to 10psi regardless of what you do :D .. you have to get OUT of the overtorque condition and go WOT again ..

would it make any difference if i activate lean spool in my 08 wil my tune get a bit leaner?
i ask cause the only difference in the maps between 2008 and 2010 is leanspool?
what else could make the 2010 faster?
thanks

oh and how do i enable leanspool in my 08? what do i need to touch on the map? do i just put a 1 where the the 0 is?

i ask this cause i wanna make my car faster but with the oem tune i anit interested in someones else tune until i get a wideband and boost gauge which as of now i dont have.
thanks

would it make any difference if i activate lean spool in my 08 wil my tune get a bit leaner?
i ask cause the only difference in the maps between 2008 and 2010 is leanspool?
what else could make the 2010 faster?
thanks

there is no 'leanspool' in the 2008's ..

It is not really a leanspool function like the evo 8/9 .. but works similiar ..
It is used to limit the car to prevent it from making too much power.. or at least thats what I found out ..

when I have time to spend on the new program .. I'll check further

there is no 'leanspool' in the 2008's ..

It is not really a leanspool function like the evo 8/9 .. but works similiar ..
It is used to limit the car to prevent it from making too much power.. or at least thats what I found out ..

when I have time to spend on the new program .. I'll check further


thanks gunzo please keep me updated with this.:D

thanks gunzo please keep me updated with this.:D

ok .. spent 1 hr looking at the so called lean spool ..

muahaha .. you're better off without it ..

it starts adjustments above 2700+rpms ..
4 additional functions really ..
2 are used to ADD fuel regardless of what you do to the fuel map :D

there is a timer/switch attached to it .. so its a one run wonder .. though some 'tooners' claim its not .. whatever ..

There's a few other functions attached to it .. too lazy to go through them ..
but generally .. there's your 'leanspool' :coffee:

ok .. spent 1 hr looking at the so called lean spool ..

muahaha .. you're better off without it ..

it starts adjustments above 2700+rpms ..
4 additional functions really ..
2 are used to ADD fuel regardless of what you do to the fuel map :D

there is a timer/switch attached to it .. so its a one run wonder .. though some 'tooners' claim its not .. whatever ..

There's a few other functions attached to it .. too lazy to go through them ..
but generally .. there's your 'leanspool' :coffee:


thanks for looking this up

so if i put a number 1 where the 0 nothing happens? i dont understand this post,so you mean nothing happens on the 2008 models?
thanks gunzo:thumbup:

thanks for looking this up

so if i put a number 1 where the 0 nothing happens? i dont understand this post,so you mean nothing happens on the 2008 models?
thanks gunzo:thumbup:

Hi .. there is no such program in the 2008s .. they put it in from the 09 onwards .. I have no idea why ..

Its like cecal appendix .. its useless while its there .. and when you do use it .. it gives you alot of problems :D .. maybe I haven't figure out how to use the functions yet haha..

This is all goobly gook to me.

Hi .. there is no such program in the 2008s .. they put it in from the 09 onwards .. I have no idea why ..

Its like cecal appendix .. its useless while its there .. and when you do use it .. it gives you alot of problems :D .. maybe I haven't figure out how to use the functions yet haha..


ok i see well i will wait for you to figure it out:yeahthat::rock:

thanks gunzo

I asked dealer yesterday about getting the upgrade-they said they'd try but didn't think it would work...someone has to be able to get this for the '08 X's...has to be just matter of time

I asked dealer yesterday about getting the upgrade-they said they'd try but didn't think it would work...someone has to be able to get this for the '08 X's...has to be just matter of time

A6 / EA6 cockpit in your avatar?? :D

VT-7 '94

A-6E TRAM Intruder....what did you fly after TRACOM? How did you get your commission?

Also, from what i have read, you seem to be the tip of the spear for ROM...can you help me get more from my Evo?

PS Great pic of your Evo as avatar!!!

A-6E TRAM Intruder....what did you fly after TRACOM? How did you get your commission?

Also, from what i have read, you seem to be the tip of the spear for ROM...can you help me get more from my Evo?

PS Great pic of your Evo as avatar!!!

A4 skyhawks :bowlol: Actually I was an exchange student :D
And then I transitioned to USAF ;) .. Guards in Arizona and then ACC ..
Still remembered what I was told :D .. "flare to land = squat to pee" :freak:

Yea .. let me know what you need ;) ..
Fellow aviators get priority orly?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Mitsubishi-evo-2.0T-FQ-330-GSR/240293/

read

"Perhaps most significant, however, is that the torque limiter, which allowed only 50 per cent of twist in first gear on early FQ-300 models, has gone."

I assume this is the same change made to US MR's for 2010

Yeah that is it exactly. Allowing the car to launch harder is what makes the new cars faster! Instead the dreaded clutch slip and hesitation off the line, you get proper launches! Now if only we could tune this hesitation out of the 08 SSTs....

Yeah that is it exactly. Allowing the car to launch harder is what makes the new cars faster! Instead the dreaded clutch slip and hesitation off the line, you get proper launches! Now if only we could tune this hesitation out of the 08 SSTs....

lol, we can... guaranteed my 08 MR would smoke a 2010 off the line.

Its not a bad idea to keep the 1st gear psi limited if your planning to launch lots, unless you want to shatter the 1st gear...

since we are on this topic,

i've placed an order for an old stock 08 SST, will be collecting it next mth.
Are we able to flash the firmwares of the ECU and TCU to latest version? is that a good move or shd i stick to my original ROMs?