: EVO X AccessPORT and AccessTUNER Enhancements Released!


COBB Tuning
11-12-2009, 02:35 AM
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COBB Tuning is pleased to announce significant updates to the Mitsubishi EVO X AccessPORT (http://cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3942) firmware and AccessTUNER (http://cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4916) software. Several enhancements have made it even easier to tune the EVO X across a wider range of modifications and fuels. Torque monitor disabling, improved boost control between shifts and access to cranking enrichment tables that should allow for finer tuning of alternative fuels like E85 all make it into this AccessPORT firmware and AccessTUNER software release.

COBB Tuning has responded to tuner requests to disable checking of the torque and airflow limit tables. The logic that checks to see if torque and airflow are within targets can now be toggled on and off through AccessTUNER software. This will make tuning the EVO X easier and prevent DTC's and limp modes from occurring when measured values are outside of table targets.

The EVO X MR receives upper and lower timing bound tables to better control boost during flat-foot-shifts with the Sport Shift Transmission. Retard tables can now be adjusted for shifting events, eliminating boost spikes between shifts.

Fans of ethanol based fuels will appreciate the new cranking enrichment table. This tables allows control of start-up fuel delivery, enabling the tuner to add the necessary fuel volume required for easy cold starting on ethanol.

Lastly, data monitors have been better aligned between the AccessPORT and AccessTUNER. "Low Det. Weight" and "Inj. Duty Cycle" monitors have been added to the AccessPORT to match AccessTUNER, while several AccessTUNER monitor names have been changed to match their AccessPORT equivalents.

To take advantage of these enhancements, the latest AccessPORT firmware and AccessTUNER software releases are required. Follow these instructions to ensure you have the latest versions:

AccessPORT Firmware: Plug the AccessPORT into your computer using a USB cable and start the AccessPORT Updater software. AccessPORT Updater will automatically download the latest version of the firmware and install it on your AccessPORT. Click HERE (http://www.accessecu.com/cgi-bin/download.cgi?download=support/AccessPORTUpdater.exe) to download the latest version of AccessPORT Updater.

AccessTUNER Software: Fill out the AccessTUNER Race Order Form (http://accessecu.com/register/cobb.php), making sure your email address and AccessPORT serial number are accurate. You will receive an email within 24 hours that contains a link to download AccessTUNER Race. Please be sure to check your spam folder in the event you have not received a download link email within 24 hours.

COBB Tuning is dedicated to meeting the tuning needs of the most demanding EVO X enthusiasts. More exciting news regarding the Mitsubishi EVO X AccessPORT will be announced soon!

#############UPDATE#############

COBB Tuning is happy to inform the Mitsubishi Tuning community that we have rectified issues with AccessTUNER and we have restored full functionality to AccessTUNER Race. The load and airflow limit tables can now be successfully disabled to eliminate the associated check engine lights and limp mode. Simply go to the AccessTUNER Race download page ('http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4916') and download a new copy of AccessTUNER Race. COBB Tuning would like to apologize for any inconvenience caused and we hope you will continue to use us as your EVOX Tuning Solution.

hotstix
11-12-2009, 02:40 AM
Awesome! When can we expect to see an accessport for the 2010 X ?

dcpatters
11-12-2009, 02:41 AM
Cheers COBB. :rock: I know this has been anticipated for awhile. :clap:

DBL R
11-12-2009, 02:44 AM
Awesome! When can we expect to see an accessport for the 2010 X ?



:yeahthat:

Farred
11-12-2009, 03:01 AM
woot. woot. woot.

on2it
11-12-2009, 03:58 AM
Thanks for the updates!

xPRimNT
11-12-2009, 04:10 AM
I'm not a AP user, but I am glad you listen to the community's requests. That's very important and you've definitely risen to the challenge.

Good on you.

prodigy1210
11-12-2009, 04:17 AM
I might now think of coming to COBB. Originally was targeting ECUFlash and EvoScan combo. Kudos COBB :bowlol:

hollywood_X
11-12-2009, 04:21 AM
:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

COBB Tuning is dedicated to meeting the tuning needs of the most demanding EVO X enthusiasts. More exciting news regarding the Mitsubishi EVO X AccessPORT will be announced soon!

I wonder if that would be me lol

Optiblue
11-12-2009, 06:49 AM
hmmm, reconsidering siding with cobb

legendary_wraps
11-12-2009, 01:30 PM
So.... just to be sure..... I can eliminate the torque limit tables that cause my SST to disengage when maximum torque is reached?

m3bmw99
11-12-2009, 01:45 PM
Awesome! When can we expect to see an accessport for the 2010 X ?

Hope you will have accessport for 2009 Evo X too!:rock:

Joelsevox
11-12-2009, 01:46 PM
Awesome! way to keep updating guys!

Kooldino
11-12-2009, 01:50 PM
COBB Tuning has responded to tuner requests to disable checking of the torque and airflow limit tables. The logic that checks to see if torque and airflow are within targets can now be toggled on and off through AccessTUNER software. This will make tuning the EVO X easier and prevent DTC's and limp modes from occurring when measured values are outside of table targets.


!!!

Awesome. Disabling those tables is going to make everyone's life much easier.

Xenozx
11-12-2009, 02:44 PM
bump for the 2010 support question :)

Bdub
11-12-2009, 03:25 PM
2010 FTW

Also waiting for 2010 updates =)

steven88
11-12-2009, 04:39 PM
2010 updates please!!!! haha i'm like the 5th one who asked in this thread

legendary_wraps
11-12-2009, 06:36 PM
So.... just to be sure..... I can eliminate the torque limit tables that cause my SST to disengage when maximum torque is reached?

bump for an answer to my previous question....

weebles
11-12-2009, 06:43 PM
So.... just to be sure..... I can eliminate the torque limit tables that cause my SST to disengage when maximum torque is reached?

I'm experiencing this same problem right now!

Would like to know more about this, perhaps we should start a new thread with the question rather than hijacking this announcement.

s2ksam
11-12-2009, 06:52 PM
2010 updates please!!!! haha i'm like the 5th one who asked in this thread

guess i'll be the 6th then...

COBB Tuning
11-12-2009, 07:50 PM
AccessPORT compatibility for the 2009 and 2010 models is still under development, but we forsee having a solid release date in the very near future. We will make an announcement as we roll out AccessPORTs for these model years.

Travis
COBB Tuning

COBB Tuning
11-12-2009, 07:54 PM
So.... just to be sure..... I can eliminate the torque limit tables that cause my SST to disengage when maximum torque is reached?

I believe this question has been answered, but yes, with this new update you can eliminate the functionality of the torque limit tables and the associated check engine lights. You can now make all the torque you want.

Travis
COBB Tuning

legendary_wraps
11-12-2009, 07:55 PM
thanks.

legendary_wraps
11-12-2009, 08:13 PM
ok... so the question is....

Look at my MOD list....

Will it work with my set up?

tony_16888
11-12-2009, 08:22 PM
i really hope you guys could make an update or something to work on the 2008 evo x accessports... i bought one thinking it would work on my 2009 evo x..

COBB Tuning
11-12-2009, 09:44 PM
ok... so the question is....

Look at my MOD list....

Will it work with my set up?

Well the AccessPORT and AccessTUNER tools certainly have the ability to tune your car with your listed modifications, however, we do not have an Off the Shelf map for larger injectors, cams etc. You will need custom tuning. Read the map notes on our webpage for more details on what maps we have available.

Travis
COBB Tuning

ScottSpeed21
11-12-2009, 09:56 PM
So.... just to be sure..... I can eliminate the torque limit tables that cause my SST to disengage when maximum torque is reached?
Edit: Yes you can modify the tables ↑↑ My previous statement was incorrect. That's what I get for assuming :duh:

thebigjones
11-12-2009, 10:06 PM
:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:



I wonder if that would be me lol

I saw your posts on their forum, way to rattle their cage!

Though, with all respect to Cobb, I know they didn't develop these things overnight and they probably kept things under wraps until the product was refined enough for release and to stay ahead of competition, or perhaps for other reasons...

Although, even with my temp tags still on and not even my first payment made, I feel like this update is overdue and like I've been waiting on it for too long. The Evo has that strange power to speed up and slowdown time, and I am completely addicted to the driving experience it provides.

hollywood_X
11-12-2009, 10:34 PM
You can disable the airflow and torque limiting tables that can cause the engine to go into a limp mode. You cannot tune or modify any of the transmission tables with an AccessPort. So the answer to your question would be no.

Actually I think you can now, maybe Travis can chime in but I do believe this is how they got Chris from Cobb's car to put down 400+ WHP & WTQ on E85.

razorlab
11-12-2009, 10:52 PM
So.... just to be sure..... I can eliminate the torque limit tables that cause my SST to disengage when maximum torque is reached?

That has nothing to do with the airflow/torque limiter tables they are talking about.

The SST have seperate torque limiter tables that cause the clutch disengagement.

thebigjones
11-12-2009, 10:55 PM
Actually I think you can now, maybe Travis can chime in but I do believe this is how they got Chris from Cobb's car to put down 400+ WHP & WTQ on E85.

I'm pretty sure that you can and I'm about to find out tonight. Heck, even the graph in ATR looks like a torque curve...

Attached is a screen shot of the SST Torque limit tables. Note the units option was converted to standard measures, because although I work in N*m, I prefer to play in ft*lbs.

I just toggled off the Torque Monitor to first to see if this will fix my issue... About to try now.

Will report back.

Note torque monitor is hard to find, here's how:
Ctrl-A (or edit, advanced parameters), toggles (base) tab, find the box and click it to activate check mark and deactivate the monitor.

My original tune had it unchecked, I'm assuming that checked toggles the item off. Again, about to find out...

thebigjones
11-12-2009, 11:59 PM
It's official, you can adjust the torque tables functionally.

I scaled all three SST TqLim tables (ABC), in the last three load columns by 1.15. I toggled off TqMonitor for good measure, too.

This has enabled me to successfully perform an S-Sport launch since my mods. I could not do this before, all I got was the slow down message.

42Degrees F
Traction regular off (1-push)
Columbus OH altitude ~900ft above sealevel
S-Sport mode, manual

A bit of tire squeals, shift as best as I could (should have let TCM do it).

0-60MPH: 4.216s

Mods as per my signature. Expense of Cobb tuner worth every cent.

Pics attached. Sorry for low quality, all the iPhone could do and it's all I got.

PS Anyone familiar with these cars and ATR/Tuning want to show me safe ways I can sustain boost and flatten my TQ curve? (see my dyno post)

razorlab
11-13-2009, 12:36 AM
That table does look correct for SST.

I can verify that, as I've been playing with those in EcuFlash for about a month now. (thats for you Trey, don't cry) ;)

thebigjones
11-13-2009, 12:49 AM
That table does look correct for SST.

I've been playing with those in EcuFlash for about a month now. ;)

I'll bet... No doubt about open source being the cutting edge in many things. I just didn't have the time to invest in learning. Heck, I'll even bet that some of Cobb's tuners contribute or at least watch the open source tuning folks.

I remember my first time in open source and linux without a clue... major time sink for those that aren't knowledgable. I'd hate to fry my car's electronics or break hard parts without knowing what I'm doing.

hotstix
11-13-2009, 01:06 AM
AccessPORT compatibility for the 2009 and 2010 models is still under development, but we forsee having a solid release date in the very near future. We will make an announcement as we roll out AccessPORTs for these model years.

Travis
COBB Tuning

Got it. Thanks for the Reply! Please keep us posted. Looking forward to the release!

hollywood_X
11-13-2009, 03:32 AM
I finally loaded my new version and I see a way to toggle off the torque monitor but it says nothing about air flow. I assume this does both with one click but Ill have to do some runs to see.

ScottSpeed21
11-13-2009, 08:17 PM
It's official, you can adjust the torque tables functionally.
Well hey, learn something new everyday :thumbup:
I finally loaded my new version and I see a way to toggle off the torque monitor but it says nothing about air flow. I assume this does both with one click but Ill have to do some runs to see.
If you open the Help file and go all the way to the bottom, it explains that the Torque Monitor toggle turns off the all the codes associated with the Airflow/Torque Limiting system. It also explains that a check mark in the box means the Torque Monitor is on and operates normally, while an unchecked box means it is disabled.

raytrix
11-13-2009, 10:11 PM
Now the used market for Cobb AP has went up in price by 50 bucks.

dcpatters
11-13-2009, 10:36 PM
Now the used market for Cobb AP has went up in price by 50 bucks.
:thumbup:

Seriously, I love my AP. Worth every dime. :godance:

Tunerhead
11-13-2009, 11:15 PM
Right on this is what I was waiting for.............thanks Cobb!

weebles
11-14-2009, 12:11 AM
Great news cobb! :yay:

Jasonsrt4
11-14-2009, 02:34 AM
I just got my updated tuner race, but they sent me a file for adm cars. I guess I will call net week.

razorlab
11-14-2009, 08:31 AM
I'll bet... No doubt about open source being the cutting edge in many things. I just didn't have the time to invest in learning. Heck, I'll even bet that some of Cobb's tuners contribute or at least watch the open source tuning folks.

I remember my first time in open source and linux without a clue... major time sink for those that aren't knowledgable. I'd hate to fry my car's electronics or break hard parts without knowing what I'm doing.

Indeed. Different strokes for different folks. I was just verifying that is the correct table for you. Nothing more nothing less. :)

(thats for you Trey, don't cry)

ScottSpeed21
11-17-2009, 09:55 PM
Hopefully the guys from Cobb can chime in on this...

I'm not so sure the new Torque Monitor toggle in AccessTuner Race works properly.

I've downloaded the new version of ATR, updated the AccessPort firmware, updated AP Manager and all that, converted my current maps to work with the new firmware.... basically have all the new stuff. I opened my maps in ATR and made sure the check box for the Torque Monitor was unchecked to turn it off, as stated in the Help file, and then went out to the car and flashed the map. I decided today to try it out. There's a spot in my Torque tables where I know it's not tuned to as much as it should be and will throw a P1241 every time, repeatable. 3rd or 4th gear, around 4000rpm and 5-10psi at part throttle. So with the Torque Monitor turned off, there should be no 1241.

I did the same thing, 4th gear at 4000rpm and 5-10psi at part throttle, and sure enough it popped the 1241 and limp mode.

So I figured maybe there's some confusion in the ATR Help file and maybe the box needs to be checked to turn off the Torque Monitor. So I open ATR and open my map, go and check the box this time to turn off the Torque Monitor. Only problem is, when I save the map and exit, I then re-open ATR and load in my map and the box is unchecked again.

Long story short: Unchecked Torque Monitor toggle doesn't turn it off. Checked box doesn't save to the map, so basically it can't be turned off.

I'm assuming Cobb would be the only ones that have any kind of answer for this. Any help?

Clipse3GT
11-17-2009, 10:29 PM
Go figure that the new feature would not work.

COBB Tuning
11-17-2009, 11:18 PM
I have alerted our tuners about this issue. Either they or I will post up with new information and we will confirm that this feature is or is not working.

Travis
COBB Tuning

thebigjones
11-18-2009, 05:17 AM
=)

GreeN YarN
11-18-2009, 11:55 AM
Cobb,
Any updates for us that us Macs?

Christian.
11-18-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm assuming Cobb would be the only ones that have any kind of answer for this. Any help?ScottSpeed21, thank you for letting us know about this. We've determined that we have a minor bug that we need to address. Correcting this is a priority for us. I will be sure to let you know when we have a revised software readily available for download.

Christian.

ScottSpeed21
11-18-2009, 08:22 PM
ScottSpeed21, thank you for letting us know about this. We've determined that we have a minor bug that we need to address. Correcting this is a priority for us. I will be sure to let you know when we have a revised software readily available for download.

Christian.
Sounds good. Thanks for the quick move towards fixing the issue :thumbup:

hollywood_X
11-19-2009, 06:30 AM
ScottSpeed21, thank you for letting us know about this. We've determined that we have a minor bug that we need to address. Correcting this is a priority for us. I will be sure to let you know when we have a revised software readily available for download.

Christian.

Yeah same issue here getting codes and box isn't staying checked.
As someone mentioned above the directions say unchecked is off but on the other items to toggle checked = on? Not sure on whats what with the DTC's

livevil
11-19-2009, 07:18 AM
Cobb,
Any updates for us that us Macs?

i second that

COBB Tuning
11-19-2009, 06:20 PM
We appreciate that some of our users are Macintosh faithful, however, the vast majority of our users run Windows-based systems. We will consider again looking at OSX support when we have the latest 64-bit Windows 7-based software 100% finalized.

Travis
COBB Tuning

Farred
11-19-2009, 06:49 PM
mac ftl.

saytheb
11-19-2009, 07:49 PM
I see some of you guys are hitting 1241 -- No one is seeing 1235 with this? (I realize it's not working). I'm having a heck of a time remapping to fix the 1235.. every time I'm just about finished with it, some area on the power band throws the code suddenly. I am also getting U0167 (IIRC) with it.

Will this fix help me at all? Or do I need to play with the airflow tables more? =)

hollywood_X
11-19-2009, 08:06 PM
The U0167 is just a communication error, you can get this by hitting the back button on the AP to early when viewing the monitior section. Nothing to worry about....

I am also seeing the 1235 with this but again its just not working :(

saytheb
11-19-2009, 08:34 PM
Thanks Hollywood. I am still somewhat skeptical it is a Cobb issue for me -- I am hitting about 30-31psi after popping on a Buschur IC and upping the boost a bit (my Zeitronix is reading -6.5 with engine off instead of 0.. so we added it to the boost levels it saw otherwise.. and had AP confirm it. Whoops!)

ScottSpeed21
11-19-2009, 10:20 PM
I see some of you guys are hitting 1241 -- No one is seeing 1235 with this? (I realize it's not working). I'm having a heck of a time remapping to fix the 1235.. every time I'm just about finished with it, some area on the power band throws the code suddenly. I am also getting U0167 (IIRC) with it.

Will this fix help me at all? Or do I need to play with the airflow tables more? =)
I've got my 1235's pretty well tuned out, I just know exactly where the car will throw the 1241, so I decided to test it out.

The 1235 has to do with the airflow limit tables.

Freebs
11-20-2009, 12:53 AM
:P if only I knew how to use the AccessTUNER.. I submitted my serial number and such and did the download but nothing past that.. Haven’t even looked into updating it, I just don’t trust my ability to tune my car ahah to I am too scared I will blow my engine up. I build engines, but tuning I let someone else take care of that.

But this is good news for us MR owners. Although I still only want to make around 350whp/350lbs.tq *on a mustang dyno

hollywood_X
11-20-2009, 01:57 AM
I've got my 1235's pretty well tuned out, I just know exactly where the car will throw the 1241, so I decided to test it out.

The 1235 has to do with the airflow limit tables.

Apparently the air flow limits are being turned off with the torque limits in ATR. Thats my understanding from reading their PDF.

ScottSpeed21
11-20-2009, 02:10 AM
Apparently the air flow limits are being turned off with the torque limits in ATR. Thats my understanding from reading their PDF.
Right... 1234, 1235, 1238, 1241 are all the codes associated with the Airflow/Torque Monitor system which gets turned off as a whole....when everything gets worked out.

I was just saying I probably woundn't have popped a 1235 anyways, since I have the airflow tables adjusted pretty well. My torque tables could be better and while boosting at part throttle it'll still pop a 1241 in the same spot.

saytheb
11-20-2009, 04:24 AM
1238 - shouldn't have played with the torque maps I guess!

contagius
11-24-2009, 12:47 PM
are the bugs worked out yet on these new features?

Clipse3GT
11-24-2009, 02:55 PM
When will the update for the 2010 be out?

COBB Tuning
11-25-2009, 12:00 AM
COBB Tuning is happy to inform the Mitsubishi Tuning community that we have rectified issues with AccessTUNER and we have restored full functionality to AccessTUNER Race. The load and airflow limit tables can now be successfully disabled to eliminate the associated check engine lights and limp mode. Simply go to the AccessTUNER Race download page ('http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4916') and download a new copy of AccessTUNER Race. COBB Tuning would like to apologize for any inconvenience caused and we hope you will continue to use us as your EVOX Tuning Solution.

ScottSpeed21
11-26-2009, 09:12 AM
Excellent! Just submitted my download form. Thanks to Cobb for the quick fix :thumbup:

hollywood_X
11-26-2009, 05:10 PM
COBB Tuning is happy to inform the Mitsubishi Tuning community that we have rectified issues with AccessTUNER and we have restored full functionality to AccessTUNER Race. The load and airflow limit tables can now be successfully disabled to eliminate the associated check engine lights and limp mode. Simply go to the AccessTUNER Race download page (http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4916) and download a new copy of AccessTUNER Race. COBB Tuning would like to apologize for any inconvenience caused and we hope you will continue to use us as your EVOX Tuning Solution.

Thanks Travis :D

contagius
11-26-2009, 06:12 PM
COBB Tuning is happy to inform the Mitsubishi Tuning community that we have rectified issues with AccessTUNER and we have restored full functionality to AccessTUNER Race. The load and airflow limit tables can now be successfully disabled to eliminate the associated check engine lights and limp mode. Simply go to the AccessTUNER Race download page (http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=4916) and download a new copy of AccessTUNER Race. COBB Tuning would like to apologize for any inconvenience caused and we hope you will continue to use us as your EVOX Tuning Solution.
Word.

Inner Control
11-28-2009, 09:43 PM
ok, maybe cobb will chime in and help me wiht this.. maybe it is a little quick fix..
i updated all my firmware and software... i have been trying to connect my ap back to the ecu and t keeps giving me the following message:
"cannot find dongle to update. retry or cancel"
anybody got that?

hollywood_X
11-28-2009, 10:18 PM
ok, maybe cobb will chime in and help me wiht this.. maybe it is a little quick fix..
i updated all my firmware and software... i have been trying to connect my ap back to the ecu and t keeps giving me the following message:
"cannot find dongle to update. retry or cancel"
anybody got that?

Mine did something like this and I actually had to unhook the dongle from ECU port a few times to get it working.

saytheb
11-28-2009, 10:43 PM
Awww, just when I got it fixed too.. Thanks guys!

Captain-NOKTURNAL
11-28-2009, 10:49 PM
this looks good can wait till I get my COBB

Inner Control
11-29-2009, 02:44 AM
thanks holywood x.. will try that tomorrow...
good to always count on someone here..

chindian
11-29-2009, 06:42 PM
Just as an update, thank GOD Cobb got this figured out. I went to LSI on friday and Cam did a finall tune on my car. It hasn't been running right since I put the big turbo on, p12## codes every time I stepped on the gas. Now we ended up with 440whp and 460ft/lbs. Wow what a difference.
I wonder how long this stock clutch will last,,,haha

ScottSpeed21
11-30-2009, 09:52 PM
↑↑ 460ft/lbs. of torque on the stock clutch?? :theeye:

I'm assuming that's the bolt on 3076R you're running? What RPM does that torque peak at? And how much boost?

chindian
11-30-2009, 10:25 PM
It is the bolt on 3076. Peak torque is @ 4750rpm. peak 29psi, holding 27-28psi to 7000rpm thanks to the ATP divorced WGA.

kidneythief13
12-02-2009, 06:47 PM
Cobb,
Any updates for us that us Macs?

I know this response is a bit late, but you can get Parallels & a copy of Windows if you don't have access to a PC at all. If the AP loads an icon anything like a USB stick would, you can choose to open it in either the Mac or PC side. I have not been able to do this myself (since I unfortunately do not have an AP yet), but theoretically it should work (if it acts like a USB device that is).

weebles
12-02-2009, 06:53 PM
I know this response is a bit late, but you can get Parallels & a copy of Windows if you don't have access to a PC at all. If the AP loads an icon anything like a USB stick would, you can choose to open it in either the Mac or PC side. I have not been able to do this myself (since I unfortunately do not have an AP yet), but theoretically it should work (if it acts like a USB device that is).

Just run a copy of windows with bootcamp, I've done this and it works.

Excalibur
12-06-2009, 11:49 PM
This is good news. The reasons to stick with ecuflash are dwindling imo.