Just out of curiousity - given the higher pricing and lack of options for the EVO X GSR in Canada - do we still have any takers for the Evo?

I love the car, I hate the pricing/option scheme (or at least what Mitsu Canada is insinuating to by doing business this way) ....

buying mine in the US

Buying MR prem.

I'm English, but I live in Toronto. I have a deposit on a PB EVo X. I originally had the deposit on the MR, but the power to weight ratio of the car meant that I decided it would require some power mods to make it more like I am used to. But the complexity (and possible fragility) of the TC-SST TCU linked to the ECU would make it more difficult than I wanted to deal with. So I decided the GSR was the way to go for me. So I changed the deposit to a PB GSR.

I'm not 100% that I will follow through w the purchase yet. I'm not happy about the rear bumper, the low wing, and the rumored grinding gears..And I really wanted that SSS option package, dammit!

buying mine in the US


Not anytime soon.

09......... i made the mistake of buying the first year of my cobalt and that wont happen again. As well the import regs still blacklist the 08 EVO for some reason.

09......... i made the mistake of buying the first year of my cobalt and that wont happen again. As well the import regs still blacklist the 08 EVO for some reason.


Rear bumber is different that's the main reason why. Good luck I've got to wait also as I have a master plan.

Rear bumber is different that's the main reason why. Good luck I've got to wait also as I have a master plan.

gotcha......... likewise, the whole buying a house thing is going to push back buying my EVO

Paying too much of a premium for an Evo in Canada. Wait a year and the pricing will adjust. I predict that the 09 the GSR will be the same price but will come with and SSS and Aero Package.

Had a X on order until Mistubishi decided to jack Canadians with the pricing and options. Still waiting to see the First EVO X on the streets in Vancouver. Anyone one know if they are selling well in Canada? I know there is a lot of deposits on them but will they all go thru with the purchase.

I'll drive my 08 STI for a year or two and see what will happen with the pricing and options next year. Then again I'm really starting to enjoy the STI might just decide to mod the hell out of it. :)

HRCboy Anyone one know if they are selling well in Canada? I know there is a lot of deposits on them but will they all go thru with the purchase.


In the Toronto Sun today there is a write up on the Evo, states 150 people across the country have deposts down of 5 grand or more down.

Rear bumber is different that's the main reason why. Good luck I've got to wait also as I have a master plan.

I though it was the front bumper because of the low speed bumper test. Hopefully this will change soon.

The rear bumper is also different to meet standards.

OK, so both bumpers are different. It means that Canada can still restrict importing US Evolution models until such time as they agree on the same standard of testing as the US. Or until the vehicle is 15 years old or older. Right now we can import vehicles from Japan that are over 15 years old. There are some pretty cool cars that can be imported.

Yeah, hopefully Transport Canada sticks to their word and reduces bumper regulation law this summer so we can import the 8 and 9, or else it'll be 15 years. Japan has some cool imports, I recommend checking out j-specimports.ca

Hmmm... now that you guys bring up the whole Transport Canada dealing with Bumper Regulation... I just did some quick research.... A globe and mail article pointed out that Transport Canada had mentioned its intention to revisit bumper regulations in the Canada Gazette ... looking it up, I found at the following link:

http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partI/2007/20071013/html/notice-e.html#i10

It's a good 8 page read... gives some decent background and info into the situation. Here's a short list of the options they're considering, and they explain it further as well:

"The Department is considering the following options and is interested in gathering comments:
1. Maintain status quo;
2. Maintain status quo but allow alternative compliance with the lower leg requirements of the gtr on pedestrian safety (since this portion of the gtr is the most advanced);
3. Rescind the Canadian bumper standard;
4. Rescind the Canadian bumper standard but regulate the lower leg requirements of the gtr on pedestrian safety as either mandatory or optional;
5. Amend the Canadian bumper standard to align the bumper impact test speeds with those of the United States; and
6. Amend the Canadian bumper standard to align the bumper impact test speeds with those of the United States and allow optional (or potentially require) compliance with the lower leg requirements of the gtr on pedestrian safety."

Last but not least, they request for people to give their comments and opinions... which was due on Dec 31st (the document itself dates back to Oct 13, 2007). And if you want to send it anyway.... send to :


"Comments, questions, and requests for additional information regarding this notice may be directed to Matthew Coons, Senior Regulatory Development Engineer, Road Safety and Motor Vehicle Regulation Directorate, Transport Canada, 330 Sparks Street, 8th Floor, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N5, 613-998-1961 (telephone), 613-990-2913 (fax); and Standards and Regulations Division, Road Safety and Motor Vehicle Regulation Directorate, Transport Canada, 330 Sparks Street, 8th Floor, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N5, 613-998-2268 (telephone), 613-990-2913 (fax)."

I put a deposit down over a year ago. At that time the dealer was advising a probable price range of 40K - 45K - and 50K for the MR Premium (when one US$ cost $1.20 Cdn). Struck me as fair then, but now with exchange parity and prices higher than projected - it a definite price gouge - though I haven't pulled my deposit yet.

I'm in between vehicles right now and would like a ride ASAP. Last week I test drove for a second time the 335xi and an Audi S4. Both are very impressive and comparably priced after dealer and manufacturer incentives. (BMW and Audi, like Mitsubishi, are both in denial about the prospects of continued exchange rate parity). Of course, both vehicles are about $9 - 10K more than the top Evo to buy in Canada, but I can import either of them from the U.S. for a little more then Mitsubishi Canada's price for MR premium here (and that includes BMW Canada's obscene charges for a new instrument cluster and recall letters).

Still, I'd really like to test drive the MR before I make the jump to the Audi S4.

Cheers,

FYI, the PB GSR I looked at today is supposedly available for sale in Vancouver. PM me for details if you want to know more. I asked for my deposit back after talking with the salesman, Andrew, nice guy. He said it was no problem and would be returned to my CC today. I said that the one on the floor must be sold already, but he said no, most everyone that placed a deposit with them either says they want a different colour or are waiting for the MR (most say they are waiting for MR).

The sticker on the window showed a 'market adjustment' of $3,000, i.e., mark-up, but for people that left deposits it was not charged. BS IMO, but any price is negotiable anyway. I would still try to get something less than MSRP. First thing is to kick the mark-up out of the picture, then start working on the MSRP, then start working on the dealer fees. If you do start dealing with someone and they try talking up the price, please have them take a look at the merchant forums here at evoxforums.com and have them see how many Evos are being sold and at what prices they are being sold. Not only at much lower MSRP (US prices) but also below MSRP!!! They will say that Canada does not get many, but I think that the Evo X is not going to sell as well as they hoped and you should expect the dealer to cough up some of their profit to make the sale.

Despite my problems with the price (and I talked about it with the Andrew as being a critical factor) it is still a great looking car and the performance sounds great. Not practical for cargo beyond a normal luggage set, but the rear seat is decent enough for passengers, as good as my Legacy when I have the driver seat where I like it.

Andrew offered for me to light it up in the showroom (he had opened the doors) but I didn't want to gas out the receptionist. I did turn on the accessories and look at the lit up instrument panel. The cockpit (seat, instruments, etc.) felt tight just like it should, and I could imagine driving it through the twisties with abandon. Oh well, maybe in a few years.

Interior still needs work, but for what you pay attention to when driving I think it is decent enough. For the sticker price you expect nicer, though.

Any Canadian EVO X owners yet on this board? I think it's over priced in Canada which will hurt their sales no matter how hot the car is. I want some of what the dealers are smoking if they can't get MSRP let alone a $3000 market adjustment. In Vancouver we already pay thru our nose for our homes, I really don't think there is too many people willing to pay $12,000 extra (with the $3000 markup) for an Evo X. Just because we are north of the 49th parallel it doesn't mean we like taking it up the A**.

Just because we are north of the 49th parallel it doesn't mean we like taking it up the A**.

Anybody paying $3,000 market adjustment is getting full on DP'd!

Anybody paying $3,000 market adjustment is getting full on DP'd!

:wallbash:

Taking it in the butt :idhitit: ... or DP ... Mitsubishi Canada just can't seem to get it right.... As the underdog in Canada, they should be much more aggressive - playing it safe won't get them anywhere...

No offense - if they can't even appease fans of the Evo ... how the hell do they expect to sell the MR to the Audi/BMW crowd when they're overpriced, under-optioned, and don't have the build quality and luxury those cars have?! (or how about height adjustable seats huh?)

Sorry guys - just had to vent a bit ... :|

No offense - if they can't even appease fans of the Evo ... how the hell do they expect to sell the MR to the Audi/BMW crowd when they're overpriced, under-optioned, and don't have the build quality and luxury those cars have?! (or how about height adjustable seats huh?)

Had the same conversation with an Evo salesperson, he doesn't see it appealing to that lux-performance crowd. I think there will be some takers, like MINI attracted some Porsche drivers into the MINI Cooper S. But not to the extent Mitsubishi is hoping, and not at this price!

Canada Mitsubishi definitely got a potential buyers shafted. It is like they don't even want to try to sell it.

I orginally heard that Mitsu was going to pricing their EVO X aggressively to steal marketshare from the STI in the first year in Canada. This was from a the Sales manager at a dealer. To my surprise they did the exact opposite with the pricing and pushed me to the competition.

It's too bad... I was leaning more towards the EVO X and still like it. For now I'm enjoying my new ride and don't regret the decision.

I orginally heard that Mitsu was going to pricing their EVO X aggressively to steal marketshare from the STI in the first year in Canada. This was from a the Sales manager at a dealer. To my surprise they did the exact opposite with the pricing and pushed me to the competition.

It's too bad... I was leaning more towards the EVO X and still like it. For now I'm enjoying my new ride and don't regret the decision.

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT TOO! It also makes sense for mitsubishi to do it. I bet it is because everyone put an deposit on an Evo X before the pricing came out.

Well, if all the GSR's sit unsold I'm sure they will start to drop the price at the dealer level. All these deposits are waiting for MRs that are never coming?

Well, if all the GSR's sit unsold I'm sure they will start to drop the price at the dealer level. All these deposits are waiting for MRs that are never coming?

True, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to explain why GSR are not getting sold here...CAUSE WE GET NO PACKAGES...

True, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to explain why GSR are not getting sold here...CAUSE WE GET NO PACKAGES...

+1.

It sounds like Mitsu doesn't really want to sell Evos in Canada. The pricing and package strategy sounds like this: wedontgiveafuckaboutyou, paythispriceandfeelhappyyouhavethecarmorons.

I just saw that same Phantom Black Evo X GSR is sitting in the Vancouver Mitsubishi showroom. Are they really not selling in Canada?

I asked Wolfe Subie about the STI sales last week and they said they had only sold two of them so far.

Car sales in general are down in Canada. I think people are waiting for a major shake-up in the car industry and hoping for more price reductions. Even with the MSRP reductions of Toyota, VW and Audi, their cars are still more expensive in Canada than in the US.

A year ago I thought for sure I would get one but after seeing the Canadian pricing, forget it. Very dissapointing.
$52K get's you into the range of some pretty nice cars, especially considering what you can import slightly used from the US.
The dealer here in Abbotsford sold the 1st one on the 1st day but I think once the initial wave of diehards get theirs they will not move many.

People are doing the smart thing for waiting. Mitsu Canada has no one to blame but themselves for the overprice-underoptioned GSR when compared to out the door prices for fully loaded GSRs over in the US (especially with the dollar right now!) I've been going back and forth with the GM @ one of the GTA Mitsu dealerships. For some reason I've read posts that this specific dealer has pre-sold 15..... That's funny to believe when they are currently trying to sell me one of the 3 they've had in stock since launch. None of which have sold as of yet.

I wonder what has happened with all the supposed Canadians that left deposits? Did they take it back? Because the amount of units that were supposedly pre-sold, is definitely alot more than actual sold units so far.

rally red frist one in western canada to own

Congrats!

(I dropped out of my purchase. The interest rates were too high for my liking.)

^^^

congrats!

Coming back from the Autoshow in Toronto yesterday, I'm completely disappointed at Mitsu Canada's overall attitude on the Evo.

I was set to go to the show to get a seat on the vehicle as I'm over 6 feet tall. The rep at Mitsu just told me "We have one coming next week, I can give you a call then."

He's aware that I'm ready to buy, but he refuses to let me sit on the car at the show, isn't this what the autoshow is about?

Upon asking when the car is coming and which color will be available. He simply told me along the line of "what we get is what we'll sell" and "we don't know what and when is coming so I can't give you an answer".

I'm willing to pay MSRP for the car is this is what he's telling me. Of course I told him about the US MSRP and he just gave me an answer such as "The base model GSR in the US doesn't even come with a wing." Like I give a fuck for $8000 MSRP difference?

He then proceeds to tell me the Evo is a Halo vehicle, and it's even more rare than a GTR as there's only 500 Evos coming in the country and there's 2500 GTRs coming.

What a crock of sh*t. Yeah I really want to be a unique and special snowflake by buying a $41K vehicle.

There's more to the story but this is pretty quick summary of it. I just want to vent here that Mitsubishi Canada is completely incompetent and anybody working there should feel ashamed.

mebius, I was also there yesteday and I totally agree. I love the fact we could sit in $100k+ vehicles, but the GSR and MR were both locked...

The part that bothered me the most was the fact that the red GSR on display had the aero kit package.. The same aero kit that is NOT being offered on Canadian GSRs! Like cmon Mitsu!

if you want to sit in one, just call Dixie/Mississauga Mitsu, Mid-Town Toronto Mitsu, or Ajax Mitsu and make an appointment to go look at theirs. I guarantee you they'll let you sit in theirs.

but if you agree to buy one, don't put down a deposit until they give you their interest rate and you are happy w it...(Good luck w that.)

The sales rep I spoke to at the autoshow was from Dixie, and he's the same guy that told me they sold a GSR for $5k over sticker price because some kid begged his daddy to buy it and he wasn't even on the waiting list. That was the last one that they had for now until next week he said.

I called around this afternoon and found out Mitsu Newmarket has 3 (all pre-sold), and Scarborough has 2 (both pre-sold, 1 in the showroom). I was tempted to go but this whole deal really gave me a bitter taste.

Yeah, knock yourselves out with paying up the butt for one. But I just feel incredibly silly to get on a waiting list for this Canadian only artificial hype.

Hey maybe in the next little while our government may loosen up the bumper regulation and I can shop for my X in the states!!! :godance:

I was also this close from signing the papers yesterday for a grey GSR.

Apparently, the previous person who had the deposit on the car changed his mind and he wanted a phantom black one instead. So the grey one was available for immediate purchase.

I'm still amused how good the salesman was doing his job, since the Evo is so hard to come by he shouldn't even be trying... I mean these cars just fly off the lot right?

They agree to do both lease & finance, whichever was more comfortable for me.

I was also this close from signing the papers yesterday for a grey GSR.

Apparently, the previous person who had the deposit on the car changed his mind and he wanted a phantom black one instead. So the grey one was available for immediate purchase.

I'm still amused how good the salesman was doing his job, since the Evo is so hard to come by he shouldn't even be trying... I mean these cars just fly off the lot right?

They agree to do both lease & finance, whichever was more comfortable for me.

What lease and finance rate did they quote you? And was it through Mitsubishi or an independent?

I would probably consider that lease option. Did they give you a rough est. on residual value and money factor?

The dealership I'm currently communicating with still has their first shipment of 3 (PB, GG and Rally Red.) None have sold..... which probably explains why they called me again yesterday morning.

I'm ready to purchase (if the price is right) but I just fear a substantial price drop come summer, or transport Canada suddenly changing the bumper regulations to accomodate Evo imports.

Damnit..

I didn't ask for the finance rate, so I assume it's the same as what's on the website 8.25%.

For leasing he gave me very little info. Basically he said if Mitsu can't do it I can find an independent co. that will do it.

yungstar:
I hear ya. I would be kicking myself if I bought one and these cars are sitting in the lot near the end of the year and they're throwing more incentives out there.

I didn't ask for the finance rate, so I assume it's the same as what's on the website 8.25%.

For leasing he gave me very little info. Basically he said if Mitsu can't do it I can find an independent co. that will do it.

yungstar:
I hear ya. I would be kicking myself if I bought one and these cars are sitting in the lot near the end of the year and they're throwing more incentives out there.

Don't go for an independent lease! If they are not a manufacturer's lease then they are typically open ended, and you are left holding the bag at the end of lease if your car has depreciated more than they thought. Also, any accidents that have been repaired will affect the value. A closed ended manufacturer's lease protects you from this.

RBC has something like a lease, but it's not a lease. Check it out.

I was told that the only reason why they are more in canada is the front bumper sensors?? I then went to the parts counter to price them out so i could import a GSR premium package and they quoted me 2100 for just the sensor no comp to run them. This is ridiculous aren't Canadian vehicles tested at the American facilities? both vehicles should have the same safety standards or at least built to the same specs if they are going gouge us.
I was quoted 48,500 for a GSR and 55,000 for a MR and that was before some dealer charge (possibly $5000).
Is the Canadian dollar not worth the same as the US dollar on Mitsubishi's planet.
I am thinking of buying a Subaru for the simple fact i can pick which options i want instead of being told what i can't get, like HID headlights, Nav, Upgraded stereo. Well at least we get Black as a colour option the only option.
This sucks i have been waiting to buy an evo since i turned 16 and now i am turned off by they controlling attitudes by Mitsu.
Sorry for the negative attitude but i was so excited but ended up pissed off at Mitsu. Oh and 8.9% is the lowest financing rate??? even BMW offered me 2.9%.

The price is just absolutely absurd.

The only way I will be purchasing an EVO is if the bumper regulations change and I can import one. Until that day, I will enjoy my C5 Z06.

Agreed, guy's.
I was looking forward to this car coming to Canada but to hell with them if they want to screw us like that. Maybe the bumper regs will change and I'll import one but other than that, no way.
I'll drive this instead.
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2760




and that was before some dealer charge (possibly $5000).

That really is crap. At least my dealer here in Abbotsford, BC didn't mention any extra dealer charges.

That really is crap. At least my dealer here in Abbotsford, BC didn't mention any extra dealer charges.

Vancouver dealer had an extra $3,000 on the window sticker for dealer mark-up. This is the first I'm hearing about a freebie package added in. They must be scrambling to understand where all the deposits and sales have gone.

The price is just absolutely absurd.

The only way I will be purchasing an EVO is if the bumper regulations change and I can import one.

:+1: