One of my first mods is going to be a gauge cluster and I'm looking for one of the tri-gauges the runs along the edge near the driver window.

Basic question: What brands are good and what should I avoid with gauges? Thanks!

If you're referring to the A-pillar that runs along your windshield, you might want to re-consider since it looks like you are here in the US... In which in its case, it will have a side curtain airbag in the location you are speaking of.

The only place I can think of at the moment for any type of gauges would be right on top of your dash board, in the lower cubie under the HVAC controls, or on your steering wheel column....

Defi is one of the top brands in Japan, it has a peak hold, warning light, warning alarm, 3 mins of recording & replay.
http://www.nippon-seiki.co.jp/defishop/

The only mount that you should use is probably the tri-gauge mount that mounts on top of the dash.

You can see my Defi gauge here in my post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctvAb_j-Qfc

Well it would only be a problem if the airbag deployed right? :P

Thanks for the link SiC!

oOo nice find

very nic SiC

I had Blitz gauges in my previous evo 2. Worked a treat. Defi looks good. I'm actually purchasing the catalogue MMC ones. Its all your taste really. I just want to keep my interior as factory looking as possible. Usually the big name brand ones are the safest. ( especially the race proven ones)

I think ill reuse the Zeitronix module that was in my 9. It reads boost, afr, egt, and lambda in a nice digital display.

the actual airbag isnt mounted in the a-pillar, its up top of the headliner.

the actual airbag isnt mounted in the a-pillar, its up top of the headliner.

Well, if this is true, then there is nothing to worry about. Thanks for the info!

Just think about it guys. why would Mitshu make it deloy off the a-pillar.
even if you dont have a gauge cluster there, the a-pillar plastic cover would hurt alot wont you think?

Dealer recommended to me not to mount gauges on the A Pillar.

I assume the plastic comes off with the airbags.. yes.. I think it would hurt :)

Dealer recommended to me not to mount gauges on the A Pillar.

I assume the plastic comes off with the airbags.. yes.. I think it would hurt :)
yep...especially when airbag travels close to 200mph when its deployed...
you dont want anything between you and the airbag...

The pillar does blow off but the way it is mounted it deploys down towards the top of the dash not at the driver or passenger, so it would be safe to assume that an aftermarket a-pillar would do the same. The top part has the bag not the bottom so common sense would dictate that the pressure on the top portion would cause it to fly straight down towards the dash not out towards the drivers seat. If that was the case I don't think the lancer would have passed saferty inspections.

then why would they have the panel bolted to the actual pillar? if the airbag were to cause the panel to move while it was bolted on, wouldnt it cause it to crack and possibly cause sharp plastic debris to fly all over inside the caR?

my cobalt had curtain airbags. there's a "side curtain airbag" sign on the a pillar but there's a boost gauge on the a pillar stock. i think we will be fine to mount gauges here. just my .02

my cobalt had curtain airbags. there's a "side curtain airbag" sign on the a pillar but there's a boost gauge on the a pillar stock. i think we will be fine to mount gauges here. just my .02


thats true my homie has a cobalt

I personally love the HKS CAMP2 system that is out now.

http://www.hksusa.com/images_products/Past-Mode.jpg
http://www.hksusa.com/images_products/Graph-mode2.jpg
http://www.hksusa.com/images_products/analog-mode.jpg
http://www.hksusa.com/images_products/Digital-mode.jpg
http://www.hksusa.com/images_products/Fcon-mode.jpg
http://www.hksusa.com/images_products/camp2_part2-lo-res.jpg

WOW. Im getting it. Wideband in it right?

Here is what I have from my last car:

http://www.zeitronix.com/theone4.jpg

Zeitronix.Com (http://www.Zeitronix.Com)

My Gauge

Me tuning then Racing With Zeitronix

That's really nice Mike. I think Dino was telling me about that the other day. I'll prolly still go with A-pillar gauges just because I don't like having stuff on the dash or around the radio area. I don't know why, but I just don't like looking that direction....

Zeitronix is nice, but Camp2 is the shizzle. I have to figure out how I can start selling those.

Besides boost, what other gauges have the most priority? Between Pressure, Temp and exhaust temp what two are most important? I thought I heard something about the X being difficult to set up both oil pressure and temp gauges, is this true? Would it be best to start with Boost, Oil Pressure and Exhaust temp?

Besides boost, what other gauges have the most priority? Between Pressure, Temp and exhaust temp what two are most important? I thought I heard something about the X being difficult to set up both oil pressure and temp gauges, is this true? Would it be best to start with Boost, Oil Pressure and Exhaust temp?


:+1:

Besides boost, what other gauges have the most priority? Between Pressure, Temp and exhaust temp what two are most important?

Between those 3, a Wideband O2 is most important. ;)

Seriously though. Wideband > *.

I thought I heard something about the X being difficult to set up both oil pressure and temp gauges, is this true?

I wouldn't even sweat the water temp.

Would it be best to start with Boost, Oil Pressure and Exhaust temp?


Boost + Wideband.

Besides boost, what other gauges have the most priority? Between Pressure, Temp and exhaust temp what two are most important? I thought I heard something about the X being difficult to set up both oil pressure and temp gauges, is this true? Would it be best to start with Boost, Oil Pressure and Exhaust temp?

Boost, wideband, is a must... oil temp. egt are very important gauges if you road race.
Once your oil pump goes (Its a Wrap), no need to get oil pressure gauge, volts, and water. Unless you want a car full of gauges.

My 2 cent

All you really need is a boost and AFR wideband

Thanks guys! That's just what I was looking for!

What is a good wideband? The defi gauge set I was looking at doesn't have one of those... soooo I'm looking for the best of the best :P

Is there any way to get some program that taps into the nav screen where you can switch to a mode that shows you all sorts of gauges and stuff?
Is it necessary to have them visible all the time or do you only use them when you do mods/tune or race?
I think its cool to have gauges but I dont want to look like I came from the fast and furious movie. Like you guys were saying two would look cool but I think it would be sick to see everything on the nav screen. Lets find some hackers and modders to work together.

Is there any way to get some program that taps into the nav screen where you can switch to a mode that shows you all sorts of gauges and stuff?
Is it necessary to have them visible all the time or do you only use them when you do mods/tune or race?
I think its cool to have gauges but I dont want to look like I came from the fast and furious movie. Like you guys were saying two would look cool but I think it would be sick to see everything on the nav screen. Lets find some hackers and modders to work together.


thats what that HKS CAMP2 system does... it connects to your nav screen under the aux input and shows you all that stuff on the screen itself...

Here-in-lies the problem that I anticipate though... it looks like it connects via auxiliary A/V inputs... but since we dont have a video-in-motion hack for the U.S. yet, wouldnt it be fair to say that this will not display while the vehicle is in motion either???

just some food for thought.

wouldnt it be fair to say that this will not display while the vehicle is in motion either???

That's exactly what I've been thinking this whole time! But why does HKS claim you can use it with "factory monitors"?

That's exactly what I've been thinking this whole time! But why does HKS claim you can use it with "factory monitors"?
Alot of "factory monitors" (navi systems) have aux inputs. All you have to do is connect the Camp 2 to this input of your monitor.

But none of them work (without modification) when the car is in motion...

What exactly is this HKS thing? Anyone got a link? Is it just a bunch of graphs showing temperatures and readings? I would imagine it works like the gps. Select what readings you want to see then start driving and as you drive you can only see those select readings and cant change anything. If you want to see boost control instead of engine temp you would have to pull over and change the guage image like a gps would only change if ur under 20mph.

Uh.. This is my assumption...

1)The CAMP2 just outputs the "gauges" as a video signal (NTSC here in North America) like a DVD player or game console...

2) The Mitsubishi NAV has a video input (apparently not on the EVO X, but can probably be easily wired up) for you to hook up external equipment like a video game console. I don't know for sure, but it would make sense if this screen/mode is not allowed when the vehicle is in motion.

Link: http://www.hksusa.com/info/?id=3474 (Google is your friend)

That is a good assumption you are making ken830. If you put the NAV unit in AUX mode, when you start driving, the screen will go black, and some text will appear stating the following:
"Not allowed while driving"

That is a good assumption you are making ken830. If you put the NAV unit in AUX mode, when you start driving, the screen will go black, and some text will appear stating the following:
"Not allowed while driving"

actually the assumption was mine... yes im keeping score :bowlol:

I agree.. antics was the first to say it... I was just thinking it... ;)

:D

Crap...so guys planning on doing the CAMP setup are going to either need to hack the PEM NAV or get an aftermarket setup.

Wow the CAMP is really cool. Not a bad price either. Im def getting that stuff when it comes out. With the whole no funtion in motion deal. Isnt there a wire that you can snip to disable it. I would think it needs a wire connected to a sensor on some moving part. I remember when I was looking at getting an altima coupe people found a manual way to override the nav system. I gotta look tonight and see if there were any updates.

Im not sure how difficult it is to disable the lockout on the device. I am sure it has been done, if it is possible.

I started working with a very talented group of designers at Audio Integrations this week though, and hope to have a nice 3 pod boost gauge panel done soon.