: Linux apps - One click install from web


Kooldino
07-13-2007, 04:01 AM
Very cool upcoming feature:

http://www.cypherbios.org/blog/?p=41&language=en

Kansei
07-31-2007, 02:23 PM
You tell me to check out this section and I do and what do I find?? a dead link! you monster!

Liquid_Ag
07-31-2007, 02:27 PM
indeed. page not foudn

Kooldino
07-31-2007, 07:31 PM
LOL, that's what happens when you're three weeks late on the post. I've been posting this gold all along that went unnoticed! </3

However, a quick google search pulled up this, which basically hits the same point:

http://www.debianadmin.com/applications-installation-in-one-click-using-easyubuntu.html

Kansei
07-31-2007, 07:36 PM
easyubuntu makes me cry.. it's as if ubuntu isn't already idiot proof enough, blah

easy 1-click installs of proprietary, will-never-be-open-source software.. yay?

For hardware compatibility it is a necessary evil sometimes but ubuntu already made that a one-click affair with the restricted drivers manager that auto alerts you about possibly restricted drivers that are available. click checkbox next to piece of hardware, click ok, it downloads, installs, prompts you for license agreement if needed (which it is.. for all of that stuff, so if they suppress the license agreement to make something truly 1-click they're likely violating the TOS), configures automatically.. sometimes you need to restart, sometimes not.. so easy?

You want the proprietary flash player? sudo aptitude install flashplayer-nonfree or go to the 'add/remove applications' menu, type flash, click the adobe flash player, done.

Kooldino
07-31-2007, 07:42 PM
I hear ya, and I use synaptic usually to get my programs. But it would be nice to be reading a write up on a certain program and have a link in the article which when clicked will install said app to your PC. The original article in the first post was talking about things along those lines.

Kansei
07-31-2007, 07:48 PM
it's doable by just linking to a .deb file which ubuntu will handle to install a package, but then you start to lose the beauty of a well-maintained and up-to-date package repository.

Kooldino
07-31-2007, 07:53 PM
Why is that?

Kansei
07-31-2007, 07:57 PM
apt won't really handle/manage applications that you installed yourself. Yeah you should be able to uninstall them using Synaptic/Aptitude/Adept/etc but it won't keep them up to date because you didn't install them from the repository.

Now if there was a system developed where you click the link and what you download is just a token to accurately identify the application, handled by a program (cross platform of course) to take that token and link it to a package in the software repository, from which it would then download and install.. it would be perfect :)

k-lea
07-31-2007, 07:58 PM
You are such a geek. It makes me happy inside. <3

Kooldino
07-31-2007, 08:00 PM
apt won't really handle/manage applications that you installed yourself. Yeah you should be able to uninstall them using Synaptic/Aptitude/Adept/etc but it won't keep them up to date because you didn't install them from the repository.

So the repository is kind of akin to the registry?

Now if there was a system developed where you click the link and what you download is just a token to accurately identify the application, handled by a program (cross platform of course) to take that token and link it to a package in the software repository, from which it would then download and install.. it would be perfect :)


Perhaps that's what they're doing.

Kooldino
07-31-2007, 08:01 PM
You are such a geek. It makes me happy inside. <3

pics of insides?

k-lea
07-31-2007, 08:02 PM
http://www.4x4globalchallenge.com/wp-content/vulturesatthesideoftheroad.jpg

Well..what's left of it..

Kansei
07-31-2007, 08:10 PM
So the repository is kind of akin to the registry?




Perhaps that's what they're doing.

Repository being the online mirrors that host all of the binary packages for your OS. Your computer syncs (daily usually) a database with a list of all the packages on the repository, so it knows where to grab stuff from when you want to install. It also lists any dependencies so other packages will auto-install to satisfy them. Any linux distro worth two shits these days operates one. Unlike windows update, it keeps eeeeverything on your system up to date. drivers, applications, the kernel, etc. You can usually select what level of 'up to date' you want. In debian, you can enable the 'testing' and 'unstable' repositories if you want to be on the cutting edge, but can disable them and refresh the packages to go back if you get too scared.

On ubuntu, the packages are basically just the pure .deb files you'll find all over the internet, but in one trusted location and with some ubuntu-specific patches usually (like making everything look chocolatey so I can vom on the ui).

Kansei
07-31-2007, 08:11 PM
and yeah, maybe that is what they are doing.. and maybe I should patent ideas that I write down so this stops happening to me :(

if only the original article wasn't reduced to a 404. Any idea what the system was called?

Kooldino
07-31-2007, 09:06 PM
Repository being the online mirrors that host all of the binary packages for your OS. Your computer syncs (daily usually) a database with a list of all the packages on the repository, so it knows where to grab stuff from when you want to install.

Ok, so that's what I'm updating and changing when I add different "package universes".

It also lists any dependencies so other packages will auto-install to satisfy them.

Which is my favorite part of apt-get. I used to hate getting rpms which required other packages to install, which required other packages to install, and so on.

Kooldino
07-31-2007, 09:07 PM
and yeah, maybe that is what they are doing.. and maybe I should patent ideas that I write down so this stops happening to me :(

if only the original article wasn't reduced to a 404. Any idea what the system was called?

I can't recall.

In the future, try to troll around the boards more frequently as I noticed many of these links have a short lifespan. :(