: What up with the S-sport mode?


draz46
01-16-2010, 08:01 PM
Is it just me but how come you can't switch to S-sport mode while the MR is running?I don't get why you can toggle to Sport mode anytime you want but have to be at a dead stop to get to S-sport mode.Can anybody enlighten me on why this is so or is there some secret Hadoken way to S-sport my MR while already cruising?

aevo86
01-16-2010, 08:03 PM
lol you dont need to be dead stopped.I've switched at about 5mph or under

draz46
01-16-2010, 08:11 PM
5mph is pretty much a stop.That's what I mean,how come you can be doing ,ahem,"sort of" the speed limit on the highway and switch to Sport mode but you can't do the same into S-sport mode?

Modify
01-16-2010, 08:12 PM
lol you dont need to be dead stopped.I've switched at about 5mph or under

You have to be in Sport below 10 kph and keep holding the switch for more than 3 sec.

Regards
Modify

ak47m203
01-16-2010, 08:32 PM
tranny safety, can you imagine doing 60mph then switch to SSport to redilne it.

contagius
01-16-2010, 08:46 PM
The transmission would probably shift down 2 gears to redline if you were just cruising along and switched to s-sport. just a safety feature.

aevo86
01-16-2010, 08:49 PM
:yeahthat:

IndyEvo
01-16-2010, 08:58 PM
you really should read a little about your evo in the manual. lot of things you will wonder about can be ansewered in it.

draz46
01-16-2010, 09:27 PM
This thing came with a manual? I thought that was a door stop!hahahah!
....Saftey,right...:slaphead: Thanks guys!

IndyEvo
01-16-2010, 09:45 PM
yea i know. this was the first car i ever even opened the manual on.

madfast
01-17-2010, 01:50 AM
The transmission would probably shift down 2 gears to redline if you were just cruising along and switched to s-sport. just a safety feature.

WATCH OUT! you can replicate this if you are cruising in S-Sport Manual and then use the stick to go to S-Sport Auto...

i did this once and it scared the living shit outta me! once in auto mode it downshifts to the lowest possible gear and redlines it. i went from like 3k to 6k in a blink... hope nothing happened to my engine...

Yxd68
01-17-2010, 04:57 AM
First off, 6K is not yet red-line. That's not until a wee bit past 7K.

Second, the SST gerboix will never over-rev the engine. It may frighten you, but it will do no damage.

S-Sport mode is designed for track use and not for the street.

izzyevo
01-17-2010, 06:20 AM
According to a well known car magazine. S-Sport definitely slips the clutch. So, to lessen wear Mitsu programmed it to make it a step more just so you don't take it for granted.

gunzo
01-17-2010, 11:23 AM
According to a well known car magazine. S-Sport definitely slips the clutch. So, to lessen wear Mitsu programmed it to make it a step more just so you don't take it for granted.

the 'wellknown' magazine is WRONG..
and it is not programmed by Mitsu .. :p

Your worst slip is in NORMAL .. followed by SPORT .. and almost 0 in SSPort

contagius
01-17-2010, 11:48 AM
First off, 6K is not yet red-line. That's not until a wee bit past 7K.

Second, the SST gerboix will never over-rev the engine. It may frighten you, but it will do no damage.

S-Sport mode is designed for track use and not for the street.

first nobody said 6k was redline
second nobody said it ever over revved the engine

just why would you unnecessarily and potentially do damage to your vehicle if you dont need to.

alktrio06
01-17-2010, 12:25 PM
yea i know. this was the first car i ever even opened the manual on.

:+1:, I hear ya brotha!

bondoa6
01-17-2010, 03:38 PM
I would say not to try it...

FYI: the gearbox is German.

madfast
01-18-2010, 09:32 PM
first nobody said 6k was redline
second nobody said it ever over revved the engine

just why would you unnecessarily and potentially do damage to your vehicle if you dont need to.

:yeahthat:

the fact is that if you are in S-Sport manual and switch it to S-Sport auto the tranny is so aggressive that it can downshift to the lowest possible gear and redline it. in my case it downshifted to about 6k. did it overrev? no. did the rpms jump by THOUSANDS in a matter of milliseconds? yes! revs, the engine can handle. sudden "extreme" changes in revs? thats a whole nother story... how many of those can the engine take? maybe that's why the car has to be stopped/creeping to go into S-Sport? because its just so damn aggressive...?

STItoEVOX
01-18-2010, 09:45 PM
Is it just me but how come you can't switch to S-sport mode while the MR is running?I don't get why you can toggle to Sport mode anytime you want but have to be at a dead stop to get to S-sport mode.Can anybody enlighten me on why this is so or is there some secret Hadoken way to S-sport my MR while already cruising?


i think you guys are missing the point here. the Hadoken is performed by doing a quarter circle forward motion (QCF) on the d-pad + any punch button. by the looks of your post you migh want to use the Fierce Punch (FP).

so in review, you should go with QCF + FP.

DBL R
01-19-2010, 12:08 AM
Lmao ^^

Yxd68
01-19-2010, 12:12 AM
just why would you unnecessarily and potentially do damage to your vehicle if you dont need to. It doesn't do any damage - get over it. This engine is perfectly competent to do 6K all the time - for months at a time. That's well within design parameters. It would make more noise and use more fuel though.

the fact is that if you are in S-Sport manual and switch it to S-Sport auto the tranny is so aggressive that it can downshift to the lowest possible gear and redline it. in my case it downshifted to about 6k. did it overrev? no. did the rpms jump by THOUSANDS in a matter of milliseconds? yes! revs, the engine can handle. sudden "extreme" changes in revs? Milliseconds? Maybe 1000 milliseconds? It doesn't d/shift as quickly as it upshifts as it needs to rev the engine first.

Yes - it can handle sudden increases in RPM. That's just like free-reving an engine.

And BTW - it takes about 0.9 seconds to go from 750 RPM to 7500 RPM , no-load, under WOT. So it didn't change THOUSANDS in "milliseconds" unless you mean 500 or so milliseconds.

If you're worried that an occasional burst to 7000 RPM is going to damage your engine, then don't drive it. Cold-starts are much worse that 7000 RPM in a warm engine as far as engine wear.

Cataclysm
01-19-2010, 12:43 AM
When you buy a nice car, it's best to READ THE FVCKING MANUAL!

draz46
01-19-2010, 12:49 AM
Hey Cataclysm,do you have spell check? You spelled fvcking wrong...

draz46
01-19-2010, 12:52 AM
i think you guys are missing the point here. the Hadoken is performed by doing a quarter circle forward motion (QCF) on the d-pad + any punch button. by the looks of your post you migh want to use the Fierce Punch (FP).

so in review, you should go with QCF + FP.

Finally somebody with the right answer!:yay:

TheSin
01-19-2010, 12:52 AM
I think he spelt fvcking right as he spelt it fvcking, how ever if he was meaning an other word... :P jk

DBL R
01-19-2010, 02:53 AM
fvcking. I love Fvcking. or is it spelt.. f....nvm

madfast
01-19-2010, 04:59 PM
It doesn't do any damage - get over it. This engine is perfectly competent to do 6K all the time - for months at a time. That's well within design parameters. It would make more noise and use more fuel though.

Milliseconds? Maybe 1000 milliseconds? It doesn't d/shift as quickly as it upshifts as it needs to rev the engine first.

Yes - it can handle sudden increases in RPM. That's just like free-reving an engine.

And BTW - it takes about 0.9 seconds to go from 750 RPM to 7500 RPM , no-load, under WOT. So it didn't change THOUSANDS in "milliseconds" unless you mean 500 or so milliseconds.

If you're worried that an occasional burst to 7000 RPM is going to damage your engine, then don't drive it. Cold-starts are much worse that 7000 RPM in a warm engine as far as engine wear.

ok here's exactly what happened. all numbers i state are approximate. no hyperbole intended. make what you will of it. all im saying is that you can put a lot of strain on your engine in S-Sport...

ok so i was cruising in 6th gear S-Sport Manual about 3k. i believe a red light was ahead so i was coasting/beginning to brake. since i was close to home i decided to put it back to auto mode with the stick. i forgot i was in S-Sport AND i didnt know the SST would do what it did next. right after i pushed the stick to auto mode the revs shot up to around 6k. that sudden downshift to the lowest possible gear with a 3k rpm throttle "blip" scared the sh*t outta me. was the car well within limits? sure. is it healthy to do that to the engine regularly? im assuming no...

the point is that in S-Sport auto mode you have to be careful because it tries to stay above 5k rpm no matter what. so you have to be mindful of what gear you are in, what rpm, what mode etc. when switching from manual to auto mode, cuz if it's in S-Sport you're gon be surprised...

saytheb
01-19-2010, 06:03 PM
ok here's exactly what happened. all numbers i state are approximate. no hyperbole intended. make what you will of it. all im saying is that you can put a lot of strain on your engine in S-Sport...

ok so i was cruising in 6th gear S-Sport Manual about 3k. i believe a red light was ahead so i was coasting/beginning to brake. since i was close to home i decided to put it back to auto mode with the stick. i forgot i was in S-Sport AND i didnt know the SST would do what it did next. right after i pushed the stick to auto mode the revs shot up to around 6k. that sudden downshift to the lowest possible gear with a 3k rpm throttle "blip" scared the sh*t outta me. was the car well within limits? sure. is it healthy to do that to the engine regularly? im assuming no...

the point is that in S-Sport auto mode you have to be careful because it tries to stay above 5k rpm no matter what. so you have to be mindful of what gear you are in, what rpm, what mode etc. when switching from manual to auto mode, cuz if it's in S-Sport you're gon be surprised...

I regularly fling from about 3k to 6k rpm in 1st on my SST, and dyno to around 7500rpm on stock internals.. I've done at least 60 pulls, 1/4 8 times, and spike from 3-6k almost every time when I'm in manual in 1st gear. No issues.

DBL R
01-19-2010, 09:19 PM
No lemon for you ^

LinuxRacr
01-21-2010, 03:08 PM
Good to know the SST can handle it.

Cataclysm
01-21-2010, 03:18 PM
Most forums censor swears, so there are some simple ways around it that look fairly normal. Sh!t is another example.
I didn't bother to try the actual word, only to have it censored.

rubioEVOX
02-12-2010, 05:08 AM
Indeed

Fuman
02-12-2010, 06:04 AM
ok here's exactly what happened. all numbers i state are approximate. no hyperbole intended. make what you will of it. all im saying is that you can put a lot of strain on your engine in S-Sport...

ok so i was cruising in 6th gear S-Sport Manual about 3k. i believe a red light was ahead so i was coasting/beginning to brake. since i was close to home i decided to put it back to auto mode with the stick. i forgot i was in S-Sport AND i didnt know the SST would do what it did next. right after i pushed the stick to auto mode the revs shot up to around 6k. that sudden downshift to the lowest possible gear with a 3k rpm throttle "blip" scared the sh*t outta me. was the car well within limits? sure. is it healthy to do that to the engine regularly? im assuming no...

the point is that in S-Sport auto mode you have to be careful because it tries to stay above 5k rpm no matter what. so you have to be mindful of what gear you are in, what rpm, what mode etc. when switching from manual to auto mode, cuz if it's in S-Sport you're gon be surprised...
im sure the engine/transmission can handle it. 6K rev isn't even at redline.
Stuff like this will break the engine if one don't maintain their car properly though.

Mazda 3s can handle operations like this, i'm sure the Evo can too.

Modify
02-12-2010, 09:09 AM
im sure the engine/transmission can handle it. 6K rev isn't even at redline.
Stuff like this will break the engine if one don't maintain their car properly though.

Mazda 3s can handle operations like this, i'm sure the Evo can too.

We drove the evo engine in 24h race always between 4000 and 7000 rpm under full throttle conditions without failure indications after complete dissassembled engine and trans for inspection.
The evo engine is made for that, (keep in mind, please always drive it smooth to 80°C engine oil temp and always drive it cold after hard driving for cool down).

This engine is very reliable, and if this would lead to accelerated wear or failure, nobody of mitsu engineers would put the rev limiter to 7500 rpm.

Thats my opinion

Regards
Modify

SinisterEvoX
02-17-2010, 03:09 PM
I'm sure that the tranny can handle this kind of sudden RPM change, but why not just wait to come to a stop at a light to switch instead of worrying so much about it? :P