93 octane: max power= 319.34 max torque= 325.23 at 24.11*
E85: max power= 355.20 max torque= 344.07 at 26.13*
uncorrected: 1.00
E85 dyno chart posted on page 8 of this thread

Curious to see how this goes on the stocker.

Let me know what they think about the EcuTek I might get one!! GL

i have a custom 93 oct. ecu-tek flash already. Dino tuned. and it's great. i had Vishnu tune on my evo x GSR and i think Dino's is better. spooled faster and pulled harder. we'll see how good Chris Black does?

Subscribed, Good Luck. I love the torque beast the X becomes on E85. It makes the car really put your head in the seat.

good! just hope the sst likes it. if not it will have to learn. Subscribed, Good Luck. I love the torque beast the X becomes on E85. It makes the car really put your head in the seat.

^I havent gotten to ride in Chris @ Cobbs SST with E85, but he says he is having no issue at 407wtq. Anywhere about 350wtq will give you a good kick in the ass. The M3 moves pretty good and it only puts down 250wtq.

400wtq. mmmm

^^^^^:rock:

Love my corn!

wish i would have went e85 a long time ago

I emailed AMS about a week ago and they probably won't put you much over 350 tq with the MR.

But I think you should be around 350 for both, maybe more. Thats just based on what I read.

wonder how cobb puts 407wtq to an MR

They adjust the limit tables in the SST and turn off the torque monitor, Cobb has that ability. One reason to go with accessport. No more limp mode cuz you are making big power.

should i get a better BOV? will the stock BOV hold with the psi e85 allows you to run?

ecu-tek can't do this yet?They adjust the limit tables in the SST and turn off the torque monitor, Cobb has that ability. One reason to go with accessport. No more limp mode cuz you are making big power.

It's not that they can't get you to 400, it's just what they suggusted in the email, to stay around 350.

Obviously when you talk to them you, I'm sure they will go into more depth. Be sure to report back, as I am interested in making this conversion as well.

How long are you staying up here? I live near AMS.

They adjust the limit tables in the SST and turn off the torque monitor, Cobb has that ability. One reason to go with accessport. No more limp mode cuz you are making big power.

If thats the case AP would be the way to go with the MR. Interesting stuff. Anybody else have any insight on this?

just thursday, hopefully if all goes well.It's not that they can't get you to 400, it's just what they suggusted in the email, to stay around 350.

Obviously when you talk to them you, I'm sure they will go into more depth. Be sure to report back, as I am interested in making this conversion as well.

How long are you staying up here? I live near AMS.

ecu-tek can't do this yet?

I believe that the ap is the only one that can turn the torque monitor off completely by a simple on/off, there is actually a menu for it in cobb atr, just a simple click of the mouse button. I am not 100% on what the other tuning solutions offer in the way of the SST, but I do know that Cobb makes it very easy to tune for on the MR.

Good Luck..... And By The Way Wats An E85??? Sorry Bt Im New In All This And Im Just Trying To Get All The Info That I Can Use In My Baby

Good Luck..... And By The Way Wats An E85??? Sorry Bt Im New In All This And Im Just Trying To Get All The Info That I Can Use In My Baby

Type of fuel like 93 octane, but E85 is more like 105 octane.

corn fuel

We Use 93 In Ma....

105 oct = more advanced timing + higher boost levels

Question...why EcuTek? Isn't it more than say a ECUFlash tune? I mean it has a licensing fee if I do believe.

theres an e85 gas in our local gas station can i use that? i got tuned at 93 oct. would it make a difference?

Please tell me you are not considering using E85 on the 93 tune....

They are so different that a completely different tune is needed. But from your list of mods u need injectors and a pump first.

i'll take care of the injectors once i got the fp redLiquid_Ag

They adjust the limit tables in the SST and turn off the torque monitor, Cobb has that ability. One reason to go with accessport. No more limp mode cuz you are making big power.

This isn't exactly true......


There are limitations programmed into the TCU of the SST; it has nothing to do with the ECU, so while you may be able to disable torque monitoring on the ECU the TCU will still protect the SST once too much power is detected. Cobb has not been to cooperative in sharing information on their 400wtq MR and needless to say I highly doubt it can consistently run numbers that high. There is only one person in this community who has even come close to cracking the TCU and that's gunzo (as far as we know anyways).

Indy, what were the results?

Indy, what were the results?

:yeahthat:

waiting on fuel pump. fedex fucked me. tune will be thursday the 4th now

Doesn't AMS have them in stock? That sucks.

Doesn't AMS have them in stock? That sucks.

Everybody and I mean everybody is out of stock on the 255 kits for the EVO X, did I say everybody...LOL. I was lucky to get mine last week. Alot of X's being modded right now.

AMS had the pump just was waiting on a fitting to complete the kit. i have all the parts now. E85 cum n soon.

LOL you said cum...

JK, anyway. How sure are we that the AMS kit is E85 ready. As discussed they don' change out any stock hosing. And Bryan at GST says the E85 eats the stock tubing....

google e85 stations, there are some in and around boston.

Good Luck..... And By The Way Wats An E85??? Sorry Bt Im New In All This And Im Just Trying To Get All The Info That I Can Use In My Baby

which m3 put down 250wtq? is it the e92?


^I havent gotten to ride in Chris @ Cobbs SST with E85, but he says he is having no issue at 407wtq. Anywhere about 350wtq will give you a good kick in the ass. The M3 moves pretty good and it only puts down 250wtq.

Can I Use E85 On A Stock Ecu??

which m3 put down 250wtq? is it the e92?

Yes, was browsing dynos.

I believe that the ap is the only one that can turn the torque monitor off completely by a simple on/off, there is actually a menu for it in cobb atr, just a simple click of the mouse button. I am not 100% on what the other tuning solutions offer in the way of the SST, but I do know that Cobb makes it very easy to tune for on the MR.

Ecuflash can turn off/tweak torque/airflow limit tables as well as SST torque and both clutch engagement/disengagement parameters. It's just not released to the general public yet. ;)

- Bryan

Can I Use E85 On A Stock Ecu??

For sure you can. You have to tune for it.

Ecuflash can turn off/tweak torque/airflow limit tables as well as SST torque and both clutch engagement/disengagement parameters. It's just not released to the general public yet. ;)

- Bryan

Any idea of when this will be released? Can you pm me a price to help me to tune my X MR a little better. DLL says 310/305 I'd sure like to go above 350/375.

For sure you can. You have to tune for it.


what parts do i need???

1000cc injecter, upgraded fuel pump, tune

1000cc injecter, upgraded fuel pump, tune


just that??? would this increase HP???

+40whp ish +20wtq ish on the stock turbo, yep that's it. great mod if you have e85 close to your house

+50whp ish +75wtq ish yep that's it. great mod if you have e85 close to your house

I WONT NEED A REFLASH ON THE ECU???

I WONT NEED A REFLASH ON THE ECU???

Relax on the caps locks.

Yes, you need a tune afterwards.

Here In The Stata Ma We Use 93 Oct..

so i could take an e92 from dig? the v8 one?

Yes, was browsing dynos.

How sure are we that the AMS kit is E85 ready. As discussed they don' change out any stock hosing in the AMS kit. And Bryan at GST says the E85 eats the stock tubing....

Bump for question to above...

E85 actually ate the UR tubing they supply in their kits. However the black OEM tubing was sticky as well so better safe then sorry

- Bryan

Bryan do you make a fuel kit for E85? I was looking thru EE, and it looks like there was some research into proper tubing but eventually I gave up going thru the thread trying to piece together the proper tubing, filter, ect. So looking for a "kit" to make it easy. I'm actually looking to join the E85 army eventually if you don't mind, haha.

AMS told me the stock fuel pump would be fine with e85. i sure the AMS kit is good for e85. i know you have done alot of e85 evos. do i need to replace anything on the stock pump. can i buy just a new line if that's all i need? i saw the thread with the UR fuel line turning brown that was said to be the stock line. this the first i've read about a problem with the stock line. clear this up for us all.E85 actually ate the UR tubing they supply in their kits. However the black OEM tubing was sticky as well so better safe then sorry

- Bryan

E85 actually ate the UR tubing they supply in their kits. However the black OEM tubing was sticky as well so better safe then sorry

- Bryan

What hoses?

One hose that is truly rated for submersion in E85 is the Gates hoses that cost $26 for 1 ft (part numbers available from the thread on EE). If I remember right, they have to have a spec of SAE30 R10 to be submersible in E85. I think Blaqops uses this hose in his kits. Buschur also started using this hose in his double pumper kit after he did the research for himself. The more commonly available SAE30 R9 spec hose is good for the transport of E85 but is not designed to be submersed in E85.

Having said that, the stock corrogated black hose seems to be holding up for people running the AMS in-line pump. This tubing was sticky to the touch when GST opened it up. Who knows how long it will last with E85.

please post the part # for the e85 gates hose.

I'm at AMS right now getting tuned. Anybody have probs with aem wideband sensor going out? Mine is two months old and AMS says mine is bad. It won't hold a reading. Do these go out often

please post the part # for the e85 gates hose.

You guys should really check out the thread on the other forum...plenty of links if you want to roll your own setup. For the money I think that's a waste of time and you should just buy a kit from BlaqOPs.

The sensors I've heard can go bad.

now there saying it's the gauge not the sensor

Mine sometimes has a "bad connection" to the power source. I need to rewire mine... That could be one of the issues, bad ground or power supply. Also if you made a home serial output for logging...maybe something got crossed. Many things can be wrong for the gauge to not hold a value.

So what happened Indy? I sure hope you didn't drive there and couldn't get a tune.

Your having some bad luck!

I'm sure he got his tune. If AMS doesn't have a WB to use just to tune..then how do they tune cars that don't have permanent installs? I'm guessing they either used a WB up the tail pipe or something if his wasn't working.

it was the gauge not the sensor. AMS never seen that before so when the wide band was acting up they just thought it was the sensor. swapped out sensor and it didn't fix it. yes, they had another gauge and it worked fine. they prob had a whole new engine if it was needed, there shop was pretty amazing. they do put a wideband up the exhaust if you don't have one but that don't work with dual exhaust. anyway, car is tuned for 93 and E85 I'll post the dyno sheet in first post.

What's holding you back, that is much lower than I expected. DCSandman has similar mods and is at 400 on E85.

How's it run and is your car a GSR or MR, I forget.

^^^Indys got an MR

What's holding you back, that is much lower than I expected. DCSandman has similar mods and is at 400 on E85.

How's it run and is your car a GSR or MR, I forget.

Umm Dcasandman has a dom 2.0 turbo upgrade and cams, also he is on pump gas not e85.

An upgraded turbo is gonna make more than the stocker..

Didn't think DC had a turbo, confused this morning.

Umm Dcasandman has a dom 2.0 turbo upgrade and cams, also he is on pump gas not e85.

An upgraded turbo is gonna make more than the stocker..

This is correct. E85 may come this year. Hope your enjoying your car. You should definitely feel 40 more whp and 20 more wtq.

dyno chart :)

http://amsperformance.com/amsperformanceimages/3/NicY-stockturbo-e85-MR.jpg

What do we have to do to switch between E85 and 93? Yea, I know the maps, but what about the fuel. Meaning how low do you have to be to switch maps?

Do I have to be on fumes?:theeye:

The best thing you can do when switching fuels is to run the car down as far as you can and then.

Fill up with whatever gas you are switching to (e85 or pump gas)
Switch to the correct map for that fuel
RUN OUT THAT ENTIRE TANK OF GAS
Fill up again, and you should be all good.

The EVO X fuel system is ridiculously hard to drain without making a crazy apparatus. What I did for the OP was drive the car until it ran out of fuel on the dyno... It runs for quite a while after there are no more bars left on the infometer...

So basically for 1 tank of gas you just need to be careful. Then from there you are good.

Obviously trying to get the car as empty as possible before switching fuels.

Hope to let you work on my MR in the next few months.

thanks for posting the dyno chart Chris. car feels great, very smooth and fast. no more overboosting!!! great sucess! :dancebanana:

yep 40whp + 20wtq i can definitely feel the difference. exhaust smells a bit different to, kinda like alcohol. when i go wot it doesn't leave the smog cloud behind car. filled up with e85 on the way home for $2.35/gal. while crusing on the interstate car doesn't seem to use gas much faster but when i start hammering on it bars disappear fast. go for it dcasandman. This is correct. E85 may come this year. Hope your enjoying your car. You should definitely feel 40 more whp and 20 more wtq.

thanks for posting the dyno chart Chris. car feels great, very smooth and fast. no more overboosting!!! great sucess! :dancebanana:

Yes!
:thumbup:

Looking good!

I love how flat that Dyno looks. Nice elongated curve.

it feels as smooth as it looks

wow!

thinking about ordering a fpgreen while they are on sale and throwing it on with a dp. i just need more! its so addictive.

I'm sure you can always find a turbo "on sale" but since you are E85'd I'd go with a red as those seem to be making crazy numbers on E85...

Very nice looking graph, interesting how the MR's are held back quite a bit by the trans, it will be cool when they unlock the full tuning of that so you dyno near the GSR's:)

Great results, E85 ftw!

i just need more! its so addictive.

Then you look at your savings account and think...hmm, do I need to ever retire? holla

thinking about ordering a fpgreen while they are on sale and throwing it on with a dp. i just need more! its so addictive.


If you're looking for a ported fp red, and ams dp let me know.

yep i can't waitVery nice looking graph, interesting how the MR's are held back quite a bit by the trans, it will be cool when they unlock the full tuning of that so you dyno near the GSR's:)

Great results, E85 ftw!

i'm done after this!


untill i put on a trans cooler Then you look at your savings account and think...hmm, do I need to ever retire? holla

Very nice looking graph, interesting how the MR's are held back quite a bit by the trans, it will be cool when they unlock the full tuning of that so you dyno near the GSR's:)

Great results, E85 ftw!

With SST torque table tweaking, the MR's on our dyno are now making the same power as the GSR's, mod for mod.

- Bryan

You have some more tables I don't have yet Bryan?

With SST torque table tweaking, the MR's on our dyno are now making the same power as the GSR's, mod for mod.

- Bryan

Sweet, good deal for MR owners, now I can't make fun of them for lacking power:)

Sweet, good deal for MR owners, now I can't make fun of them for lacking power:)

Yup, have to tease them for being too lazy to shift instead. :jk:

You have some more tables I don't have yet Bryan?

Hoping to release them soon. :)

- Bryan

YAY! I have a few customers that desperately need that :)

can't wait for this, Chris let me know when you get these tables.