: Evo X vs Civic Hatch (H22)


VegetaX
03-02-2010, 03:21 PM
Here is the things guys, my cousin is building a h22 hatch all motor. He said he should be able to smoke me easily at the track with slicks. He are his mods: H22, stage 2 brian crower cams, brian crower pistons, bolts on, tune, and 125 shot of nos. What do you guys thing the outcome will be?

GO ON 3
03-02-2010, 03:39 PM
with thos mods, the out come will be, him blowing his engine and making a mess on the track, like all civics

get your ams test pipe on and complete the turbo back and get a tune, you will eat him up for breakfest lunch and dinner, make him look stupid

VegetaX
03-02-2010, 03:44 PM
with thos mods, the out come will be, him blowing his engine and making a mess on the track, like all civics

get your ams test pipe on and complete the turbo back and get a tune, you will eat him up for breakfest lunch and dinner, make him look stupid

im trying to get cobb ap rite now, how safe is to run stage 1?

dminor04
03-02-2010, 03:50 PM
im trying to get cobb ap rite now, how safe is to run stage 1?

Incredibly dangerous, well not really

Zhadow
03-02-2010, 03:51 PM
and record the match, it would be cool to see you beating that civic

hotdog
03-02-2010, 03:52 PM
If by "track" you mean 1/4 mile, he'd be really damn fast with slicks + light weight + NOS. I'd find it embarrassing to lose in a 40k car to a car worth less than my rims.

Just congratulate him on having an awesome ride and go about your business.

VegetaX
03-02-2010, 03:53 PM
Incredibly dangerous, well not really
:whipping:

VegetaX
03-02-2010, 03:54 PM
and record the match, it would be cool to see you beating that civic

i will record it and post it lol

dminor04
03-02-2010, 03:57 PM
stage 1 is fine just to clarify

GO ON 3
03-02-2010, 03:57 PM
i will record it and post it lol
very nice, and ya hurry up with that stage 1!
when are you racing him?

VegetaX
03-02-2010, 04:02 PM
very nice, and ya hurry up with that stage 1!
when are you racing him?

he said he be done by this month, i cant wait, im just undecided to get cobb ap or ams downpipe. :duh:

dminor04
03-02-2010, 04:05 PM
he said he be done by this month, i cant wait, im just undecided to get cobb ap or ams downpipe. :duh:

AP for sure, downpipe is a bitch to install anyways

-Evolved Boost-
03-02-2010, 04:25 PM
well i had a buddy with a CRX that had a h22 in it and that thing moved...i could almost be certain that unless your tuned...he would beat you even without spraying. i know the CRX is lighter but i dont think the civic hatch is too far. but can that car handle a 125 shot? im not too famaliar with how well hondas deal with nitrous.

VegetaX
03-02-2010, 04:27 PM
from that he said he said yes it can handle 125 shot with his mods.

-Evolved Boost-
03-02-2010, 04:34 PM
from that he said he said yes it can handle 125 shot with his mods.

well then i can say he will own you....unless you upgrade your stock turbo or add meth and cams and a nice tune. my buddies h22 CRX felt really good when i was in it and im pretty sure he only swapped in the h22. now your cousin is already gonna have a built motor plus on top of that a 125 shot.

VegetaX
03-02-2010, 04:37 PM
well then i can say he will own you....unless you upgrade your stock turbo or add meth and cams and a nice tune. my buddies h22 CRX felt really good when i was in it and im pretty sure he only swapped in the h22. now your cousin is already gonna have a built motor plus on top of that a 125 shot.
:wallbash:

Jeremy@SSP
03-02-2010, 06:04 PM
I love these hypothetical drag races....lol.

Who cares if he beats you.....at the end of the day he's got a CIVIC! I don't give a crap if it's got a blown V8 swap....it's still a Civic. And the fact that he has to run slicks, NOS, motor swap, cams, and god no's what else....just to beat an Evo with a couple bolt ons, is pretty sad.

Boston_eagle
03-02-2010, 06:14 PM
I love these hypothetical drag races....lol.

And the fact that he has to run slicks, NOS, motor swap, cams, and god no's what else....just to beat an Evo with a couple bolt ons, is pretty sad.
:amen:

shabarivas
03-02-2010, 06:34 PM
Do not underestimate those civic hatches ... they handle amazingly and are amazingly light... If i had to live w/ a FWD it would be one of those or a Gen4 lude... once you deal w/ the wheelspin off the line them things can be real fast...

I wouldnt be too sure of a I/H/E Tune evo beating them on every track...

shabarivas
03-02-2010, 06:35 PM
oh... wait ... drag race?? I thought you were going to a track... like w/ turns...

Jeremy@SSP
03-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Do not underestimate those civic hatches ... they handle amazingly and are amazingly light... If i had to live w/ a FWD it would be one of those or a Gen4 lude... once you deal w/ the wheelspin off the line them things can be real fast...

I wouldnt be too sure of a I/H/E Tune evo beating them on every track...


I know how fast Civic hatches are...I had a gutted and caged hatchback, Greddy 18G turbo kit, type R trans and motor. Shit was wicked fast after you got done spinning 1st-4th. Couldn't drive it in the rain or you'd die, obviously that takes snow out of the equation....and last time I checked FWD cars still suck in gravel (my friend drove my crx off a 15 ft embankment on gravel). So basically if the weather is good, and you build the crap out of it....you could beat a fairly stock Evo...:duh: And guess what.....at the end of the day you still got a FWD Civic :(

speedfreak228
03-02-2010, 10:18 PM
this is kinda diff but a guy in town had a hatch w a k20 swap w boltons and he runs low 13's. so that will give you an idea. there was 5 hondas at the track this past weekend w loud ass exhuast and all they could run was high 15's

Zhadow
03-03-2010, 02:48 AM
After doing some research I think that the engine swap could help your cousin, and that mods can make him win, but as Jeremy said:



Who cares if he beats you.....at the end of the day he's got a CIVIC! I don't give a crap if it's got a blown V8 swap....it's still a Civic.

Just drag for fun and if you want to race at track it could be funnier, but that's what I think anyway

Good luck :D

joey
03-03-2010, 03:16 AM
if his ride dont blow.....he will probably win

nlp187
03-03-2010, 03:29 AM
civic will win....if you had equivalent mods...you would haha.

victor diaz
03-05-2010, 04:30 AM
haha the honda vs evo at a drag strip is just me being mad at how crazy fast those things are......well just cuz where i'm from everyone has built honda motors or turbo b-series that make hella noise.....i go with my friends to the track but you just gotta know who to race....my friend ran 15 flat in a hatch with just the b18 swap in it, then another guy in a stripped b20vtec crx ran high elevens.....but the 2.21 liter gt35r civic started "knocking" and didn't make it to the track....another ebay turbo hatch that would blow due to no way of regulating boost overheated on the way home......we talk alot of crap but at the end of the day, i still have a daily driven Evo.....so i'm happy.... and i can park wherever i want without getting jacked :)

Bandit09
03-05-2010, 04:55 AM
Get an FP Red :rock:

Enjoitk
03-05-2010, 07:53 AM
in the end, hes still driving the honda crx.. and you are driving the evo

victor diaz
03-05-2010, 08:14 AM
in the end, hes still driving the honda crx.. and you are driving the evo

edit: in the end he drives it about six times at the track in the spring or summer :)

Mitsuyager9
03-05-2010, 08:37 AM
Owning a fast honda is like coming out of the closet.....you may surprise some people but at the end of the day your still gay

alphaghost
03-05-2010, 01:16 PM
cmon guys ppl get what they can afford, I hate when ppl say, "it's just a this or that", b/c i can tell you that ppl say they dont care what an evo can do around racecourse its still a lancer with 20k in mods.

Enjoitk
03-05-2010, 05:48 PM
one really nice lancer with 20k in mods =]

Enjoitk
03-05-2010, 05:49 PM
Owning a fast honda is like coming out of the closet.....you may surprise some people but at the end of the day your still gay


LOL!!!

whitecomet
03-05-2010, 05:53 PM
If we smoe a sklyline we still have a lancer with 20k in mods from the factory and additional thousands on top of that it's still a econobox like a civic. As long as you like it it's all that matters honda makes more reliable cars than what we have.

Scooter
03-05-2010, 06:05 PM
If we smoe a sklyline we still have a lancer with 20k in mods from the factory and additional thousands on top of that it's still a econobox like a civic. As long as you like it it's all that matters honda makes more reliable cars than what we have.

Actually, with all the latest recalls from Toyota, Honda, and Nissan... It should be "used to make more reliable cars than what we have." Mitsu's recalls are mild compared to theirs right now.

As Jay Leno said, with all these recalls why is there still traffic on the road.

Whitewind
03-05-2010, 06:08 PM
Man I got some buddys down Texas that got some bad MF'ers. On guy (Try remember) got B18 (or like B16 with B18 head don't remember not into honda shit much) type R cams greddy exhaust P&P head and etc ALL motor with slicks ran 1/8 mile 8.5 don't remember MPH been 6-7 years ago. Hatch gutted with Roll cage.

But man they went through trannys all the time.. I remember that!

Enjoitk
03-05-2010, 06:14 PM
If we smoe a sklyline we still have a lancer with 20k in mods from the factory and additional thousands on top of that it's still a econobox like a civic. As long as you like it it's all that matters honda makes more reliable cars than what we have.

just like a civic:clap:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/tkenjoitk/127200265924PM57221.jpg

shabarivas
03-05-2010, 06:22 PM
How many Evos can do the quarter this fast?
1) 6.525 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-13337.html)*+ 213.500 4.206 170.180 1.014 Honda Civic EX coupe (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-13337.html) 2003 stephan papadakis 2) 8.411 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-8100.html)* 175.320 5.600 134.590 1.370 Honda Civic SI (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-8100.html) 2000 Stephanie Eggum 3) 8.680 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-17073.html)* 169.000 1.360 Honda Civic ex (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-17073.html) 2003 John Brown 4) 9.200 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-3654.html) 162.000 1.400 Honda Civic DX Hatch (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-3654.html) 1990 Jim 5) 9.439 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-15823.html)* 151.000 6.193 120.000 1.562 Honda Civic Coupe Dunlop NoLimit VTG (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-15823.html) 1997 Witold Karalow

...

Saying its just a civic is retarded... who cares what it is? All that matters is how fast it is and how well it drives... There used to be a video where Tsuchiya reviews a modded evo / sti / lotus / others and there is one fan who drove there in his Hatch w/ a swap from Chicago to Cali... well guess what? That was his fav among all the insanely modded cars...

Im not saying you are going to loose to your friend... all im saying is... there is a lot of irrational honda civic hate going on here... a properly built car is a properly built car... does not matter where you start...

Think about it... do Porsche owners just say... oh i got beat by an evo but who cares its just a lancer w/ mods lol...

NomadicMarine
03-05-2010, 06:29 PM
How many Evos can do the quarter this fast?
1) 6.525 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-13337.html)*+ 213.500 4.206 170.180 1.014 Honda Civic EX coupe (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-13337.html) 2003 stephan papadakis 2) 8.411 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-8100.html)* 175.320 5.600 134.590 1.370 Honda Civic SI (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-8100.html) 2000 Stephanie Eggum 3) 8.680 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-17073.html)* 169.000 1.360 Honda Civic ex (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-17073.html) 2003 John Brown 4) 9.200 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-3654.html) 162.000 1.400 Honda Civic DX Hatch (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-3654.html) 1990 Jim 5) 9.439 (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-15823.html)* 151.000 6.193 120.000 1.562 Honda Civic Coupe Dunlop NoLimit VTG (http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-15823.html) 1997 Witold Karalow


There's a large list of youtube videos of evos that do that. Any HEAVILY modded car can do that but by the time you finish the mods, it's just a civic shell or an EVO shell - everything else is replaced. Civics suck and making it crazy fast still makes it a civic. The fact that we are even talking about an EVO (40k) vs a Civic (12k) is a joke.

Scooter
03-05-2010, 06:33 PM
There's a large list of youtube videos of evos that do that. Any HEAVILY modded car can do that but by the time you finish the mods, it's just a civic shell or an EVO shell - everything else is replaced. Civics suck and making it crazy fast still makes it a civic. The fact that we are even talking about an EVO (40k) vs a Civic (12k) is a joke.

I have to agree with this... by the time you have hit these kinds of speed the cars are just shells with no real realtion to the car they were based on. Every part of the engine, suspension and transmission have been replaced or upgraded. Cages are added, safety equipment, etc. That goes for Hondas, Mitsus and everything else... Brent Rau's Eclipse bears no real relation to the street car.

Enjoitk
03-05-2010, 06:33 PM
its still a honda crx... LMAO

shabarivas
03-05-2010, 06:39 PM
So then your Evo is just a lancer (20k) with a bunch of mods that mitsubishi decided to install...

Dont miss the point here... Of course on a track / all weather / etc etc an evo reigns supreme... I just feel the whole "its just a civic" mentality annoying... What do you have to say to the p-car owners who say... oh its just a lancer lol... same shit right?

I mean civic : evo :: evo : p-car lol

Enjoitk
03-05-2010, 06:42 PM
....its still a crx

shabarivas
03-05-2010, 06:46 PM
and yours is still a lancer.... we can do this ALL day... Dont get me wrong... I have owned an X... owned a civic and know how crappy they are... Im just pointing out that its ALL relative...

Scooter
03-05-2010, 07:04 PM
and yours is still a lancer.... we can do this ALL day... Dont get me wrong... I have owned an X... owned a civic and know how crappy they are... Im just pointing out that its ALL relative...

No argument from me... I think cars should be compared based on Price. I expect a $100,000 dollar Porsche to outperform my stock MR. Plus different people want different things out of their cars.

I am a bit older and I appreciate what mitsu did for the Evo. It grew up a bit. Not to say I don't enjoy driving my VIII, but on long distance drives I can definitely appreciate the NAV and cruise controls in the wifes X MR.

I think what everyone here has been exposed to has jaded them a bit towards Hondas. Since they are inexpensive, they are easily accessible to the young and financially strapped crowd. Unfortunately these are the same dimwits that think that a fart can puts them in the same class as an Evo.

I had some kid in a Honda a few months back revving at me at a red light. And it wasn't a nice one either, it was a broken down POS. I rolled down the window and...

Me: "Know your place."
Him: "What?"
Me: "Know. Your. Place."
Him: Puzzled Look
Me: "Dude, I don't rev on Ferraris and Vipers. You don't rev on me. Do you now understand the nature of the universe?"
Him: "F**K you man!!!" Rev. rev. rev. peel out, NOT! blue smoke pours out of tailpipe. Small shitzu being walked by owner runs out and catches up to said car and proceded to rip off rear bumper and eat it. Local skateboarders practicing for the 2012 summer olympics use car as mobile ramp as car shifts into second gear. 3 minutes later car hits 3d gear and passes two girls on inline skates that took off from the same light he did.

OK, so everything up to the blue smoke is real, the rest I exagerated on - a little.

Whitewind
03-05-2010, 07:12 PM
LOL^^^^

shabarivas
03-05-2010, 07:15 PM
HAHAHAHAHHAH lol ok ... i will give you the whole... financially strapped part where people in their civics are jaded toward thinking an exhaust puts them up there with the evos and lambos lol...

I have no problem with any car... a civic can be well made and at the same time I have seen many an evo completely riced out ... it all depends on if its tastefully done and if its for function over form...

A good car is a good car... I will happily drive anything on 4 wheels thats well built, balanced and well taken care of...

Enjoitk
03-05-2010, 07:17 PM
no. its still a crx

droppinbottom
03-05-2010, 07:17 PM
There's a large list of youtube videos of evos that do that. Any HEAVILY modded car can do that but by the time you finish the mods, it's just a civic shell or an EVO shell - everything else is replaced. Civics suck and making it crazy fast still makes it a civic. The fact that we are even talking about an EVO (40k) vs a Civic (12k) is a joke.

sucks that you paid 40k I am in the 28.2k range after ttl.

shabarivas
03-05-2010, 07:32 PM
no. its still a crx

LOL... you obviously were president of the debate team where your from...

zero801
03-05-2010, 07:34 PM
im trying to get cobb ap rite now, how safe is to run stage 1?


Run stage 2. I am and I have stock exhaust. Runs fine. No cel's.

Scooter
03-05-2010, 07:35 PM
sucks that you paid 40k I am in the 28.2k range after ttl.

Maybe he has an MR, or maybe he bought it overseas where taxes are higher. ;) I was 36 K on the wife's MR with Tech before the crash. Sometimes you get a good deal and sometimes you can't.

Enjoitk
03-05-2010, 07:46 PM
LOL... you obviously were president of the debate team where your from...


I'm not trying to debate. Its still a piece of shit crx. Watching you type all this shit trying to justify its crappiness is hilarious. :thumbup:

shabarivas
03-05-2010, 08:20 PM
Dude... seriously? are you that thick headed? Im not saying its the best car ever made... Im just saying you realize you are doing the same thing that P-car owners do to us right?

Someone will always have a better car than you... and as far as there are people like you in the world someone will always be there to look down on someone else for taking pride and joy in their cars simply because they are "lesser" cars....

Sure a CRX is a POS... but in the right light so is your evo, my Z and someone Else's GTR...

I guess this is the difference between a car enthusiast and someone who purchased a car and wont hear word one of how its not the best in every way shape or form...

joey
03-05-2010, 08:23 PM
I like hondas. They are pretty good little cars and can be extremely fast if built right

robertmhall2
03-05-2010, 08:36 PM
I like hondas. They are pretty good little cars and can be extremely fast if built right
:+1: I am just a fan of fast cars. and civics are crazy easy to build.

Zhadow
03-05-2010, 08:46 PM
Yeah, I really like the "Know your Place" thing
Surely if you have a highly modified car you don't need to show off every time you can

Anubis
03-05-2010, 08:50 PM
I love 1/4 pissing matches....1/4 races fo' life!

shabarivas
03-05-2010, 10:06 PM
We live our lives 1/4 mile at a time dont we?

Whitewind
03-05-2010, 10:15 PM
Ahhh hate that movie just for that saying.

shabarivas
03-05-2010, 10:16 PM
LOL me too ... and not just for that saying ... for all the sayings LOL

VegetaX
03-06-2010, 04:59 AM
damn did i miss something? lol

whitecomet
03-06-2010, 05:23 AM
For those ten seconds or less nothing else matters. lol

Zhadow
03-06-2010, 06:14 AM
For those ten seconds or less nothing else matters

LOL F&F style :D

fishstix
03-06-2010, 06:27 AM
You're going to get spanked by a Civic and he's going to taunt you about it all the time and all the Honda fanboys will be posting the video on their forums to show how Civics own X's and all the Evo fanboys will lower their heads in :(

shabarivas
03-06-2010, 06:39 AM
come on ... they only try and impress evo owners cus they are worth being impressed :) at least thats how i look at it anyway ...

Enjoitk
03-06-2010, 07:12 AM
dont race him and embarrass us. last thing we need is a thread about a shitty honda crx beating an evo x

Mitsuyager9
03-06-2010, 01:10 PM
Dude... seriously? are you that thick headed? Im not saying its the best car ever made... Im just saying you realize you are doing the same thing that P-car owners do to us right?

Someone will always have a better car than you... and as far as there are people like you in the world someone will always be there to look down on someone else for taking pride and joy in their cars simply because they are "lesser" cars....

Sure a CRX is a POS... but in the right light so is your evo, my Z and someone Else's GTR...

I guess this is the difference between a car enthusiast and someone who purchased a car and wont hear word one of how its not the best in every way shape or form...

Haha why are we feeding the hondatard troll still?

fishstix
03-06-2010, 06:40 PM
dont race him and embarrass us. last thing we need is a thread about a shitty honda crx beating an evo x

It's going to happen eventually anyway. He might as well be the object of ridicule so none of us have to.

VegetaX
03-06-2010, 07:37 PM
It's going to happen eventually anyway. He might as well be the object of ridicule so none of us have to.

im not going to lose dont worry, its the driver that makes the car.

Enjoitk
03-07-2010, 02:28 AM
It's going to happen eventually anyway. He might as well be the object of ridicule so none of us have to.


good point

Enjoitk
03-07-2010, 02:28 AM
im not going to lose dont worry, its the driver that makes the car.


dont let us down, or else.. :whipping:

fishstix
03-07-2010, 02:42 AM
If you lose it's the ban hammer for you!

mantella
03-07-2010, 03:14 AM
hell if I had to race in a straight line I would pic my 1500.00 civic to beat my evo by a embarassing amount. How ever since i allready had the civic when i bought the x I guess it shows that 1/8th or 1/4 mile do not do qanything for me. As a warning for knocking civic sohc motors using 80.00 vitara pistons and basicly ebay turbos are running in low 11s with a good driver

Doubl-0
03-07-2010, 05:41 AM
Pretty funny thread to read but as Shabarivas said, regardless of what kinda car you have, someone out there has a much better car than you. For some, it is a passion and commitment to a specific make or brand and others it is the best that money can buy. If those enthusiasts have a fast car passion on a broke down budget, then they do the best they can with what they got (sometimes a pretty damn good performance car regardless of its original value, credibility as a make/brand or lack thereof). It's all about a hobby and being an enthusiast. I had a civic as a teenager and did the whole hot import nights scene, then upgraded to a denali and did the whole DUB car show scene and now to the Evo X MR-T. All of it is a total waste of money, civic to evo's but in the end, we have and drive the cars we are passionate about at the moment and for that reason alone, you can't knock another man's passion. Now if he disrespects, then eat the rice hungry MF'er and throw the deuce out the window as u blow past him! :jk:

Seriously though, who cares what people drive. Just be happy with what you drive and you will live to see another day without any unnecessary drama.