Can't wait to see it on the TV show, but this will have to tide us over until then...

(Kudos to Gumbo for the article scans)

No problemo :thumbup:

I am surprised at how alike the 2 cars are.

if the money is not an issue i would pick the "baby veyron" for sure :)

Thanks GUMBO!

GTR is the sex :hititsign:

I am surprised at how alike the 2 cars are.

The only thing I think they have in common (besides being japanese turbo awd cars) is the fact that they're both "cheap speed" compared to the more expensive cars that they can outdo.

That said, the GT-R is a step above the X in about every objective way.

:hititsign: Both of them, raw-dog without protection

:hititsign: Both of them, raw-dog without protection
no sir...wrap your tool please

The only thing I think they have in common (besides being japanese turbo awd cars) is the fact that they're both "cheap speed" compared to the more expensive cars that they can outdo.


You forgot about the twin-clutch tranny. :-)

You forgot about the twin-clutch tranny. :-)
hmmm I'm thinkin 5M/T is the way to go...just depends on who you are..

hmmm I'm thinkin 5M/T is the way to go...just depends on who you are..
:+1:

I think he means twin clutch as far as something else they have in common :-P

if the money is not an issue i would pick the "baby veyron" for sure :)



the baby veryon that beats the mother veryon... so what do we call the evo x, sister m3.

Skyrine, lmao!

The writer sounds a bit like the William Gibson of automotive journalism. Interesting read. Did he not get to drive the GT-R?

That was quite a whimsical story. By the way he talked about it, it almost sounded like he was upset that he wasn't the one driving the skyline... pretty emotional

:bowlol:

GTR is nice, but $70-90 g's... damn, if you got it, go for it.

I'm prayin for an EVO X babyeee! :godance:

no sir...wrap your tool please

With those beauties I might have to take my chances.:jk:

Thats Jeremy Clarkson :D
Oh I Think He Did
Can't Wait to see the New season of TOPGEAR.
FQ-400 sounds nice.
Like the EVO VS Lambo http://youtube.com/watch?v=s1ZWJjC648I :thumbup:
I think they have FQ-360 and FQ-320 Evo X in japan :(

GTR is nice, but $70-90 g's... damn, if you got it, go for it.


Yeah, it looks like the first ones are going to be hit with heavy dealer markup in some places.

I bought this TG Mag today just for this article, its a good one.
The back of the Evo is starting to look appealing :P

Thats Jeremy Clarkson :D
Oh I Think He Did
Can't Wait to see the New season of TOPGEAR.
FQ-400 sounds nice.
Like the EVO VS Lambo http://youtube.com/watch?v=s1ZWJjC648I :thumbup:
I think they have FQ-360 and FQ-320 Evo X in japan :(

The article wasnt written by Jeremy and there are at present no plans to produce and FQ400

For $70-90k would you buy the GTR or go for something else? 2 evos maybe? ehhh, ehhh lol

no plans to produce and FQ400

Yeah i Know but they have FQ320 & FQ360 good enought

Yeah i Know but they have FQ320 & FQ360 good enought
Just posted up the first review of the 360 on here :thumbup:

Right on! I will stay tuned for this episode.

oops sorry its uk spec still nice
:shades: (http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/evolutionX/overview.asp) http://www.channel4.com/4car/rt/mitsubishi/lancer+evolution+x/18059/2

http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/evolutionX/overview.asp (http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/evolutionX/overview.asp)

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-X-UK-Price,-Specs.html

I Guess The MR cant handle the power i read it somewhere but i cant find it.

I like the pics of the evo getting dirty:) schecsy

I bought this TG Mag today just for this article, its a good one.
The back of the Evo is starting to look appealing :P

Really? I think it is the worst view of the Evo. I love the front and side, but the rear needs some work. Too high, narrow, too econo-box, and the wing doesn't save it. Sure, it can grow on you, but I don't like it. Just one man's opinion.

No one else finds anything wrong with article but me... all he does is talk about how much better the GT-R is... These aren't in the same class, both car companies have said so. And on that note I will compare the GT-R to the Veryon, guess what the Veryon is better...

There seem to be NO reason for the Evo to even be in the write up. It was about one man's love for a car. I think it was written by Daniel Steele...

I think it was written by Daniel Steele... :)

Most articles I've read state that Nissan created the GTR this time around to directly compete pound for pound against the 911 Turbo.

Based on this I agree that a direct comparison probably isn't logical. However this article also goes on to show that for the $ value.. the evo is up there with the rest of them.

Each to their own.

I like the pics of the evo getting dirty:) schecsy
:+1:
http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/M/mitsubishi/evo/03-large/08-evox-2car-f3qa.jpg

No one else finds anything wrong with article but me... all he does is talk about how much better the GT-R is... These aren't in the same class, both car companies have said so. And on that note I will compare the GT-R to the Veryon, guess what the Veryon is better...

There seem to be NO reason for the Evo to even be in the write up. It was about one man's love for a car. I think it was written by Daniel Steele...

I agree I was surprised when I saw that it was a comparison between these too cars. And I really did not like most of the wording of this article. It really seemed to beat around the bush, as a lot of these types articles do when they try to get all artsy and poetic. I get too interested when reading these things sometimes I need them to just come out and tell me like it is. I don't like to wait to the very last sentience for the whole thing to be summed up. I want info first, then maybe tell me a story if theres time left afterward. :shades:

Article now up on Top Gear Website -
http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2008/03/stories/12/1.html?text

good find.

I agree I was surprised when I saw that it was a comparison between these too cars. And I really did not like most of the wording of this article. It really seemed to beat around the bush, as a lot of these types articles do when they try to get all artsy and poetic. I get too interested when reading these things sometimes I need them to just come out and tell me like it is. I don't like to wait to the very last sentience for the whole thing to be summed up. I want info first, then maybe tell me a story if theres time left afterward. :shades:

You're absolutely right. It's all and well to compare an Evo to a GT-R if the writer could be absolutely impartial about it. We know the GT-R is heavier, more powerful and ultimately in a different price class than the Evo X.

I really had to read between the lines in this article to see him say that the Evo was better in the turns and on twisty roads due to its weight but then he goes on to say mournfully that it's not the GT-R.

It seems like a bad shake for the Evo X to get compared to the GT-R and the guy who wrote this article has taken almost every opportunity to say how flimsy the car is compared to the GT-R.

Owing to the fact that I own an Evo X and have put some kms on it already (read 2200) I can easily say that everything on the car feels very tight. From the steering, to the suspension, and yes, even the doors. In fact the doors feel fairly heavy compared to a Madza3 and even a VW Jetta that I drove around in last year. It takes very little force to close the door because of the momentum it gains on the Evo. I often find myself closing it too hard and that doesn't bother me because it doesn't feel flimsily built at all.

/rant

Why is the GT-R compared to the EVO. EVO vs STI please, GT-R vs the other high powered cars please...how about the Z06?

Words by Matt Master

I hope we see an actual review by Jeremy C.

^^^ Can't wait! He certainly can't like it any less than the WRX.

I hope we see an actual review by Jeremy C.

Seconded. He'll like it, as he did when he reviewed the 9.

If he does a WRX comparison, hes sure to think of some hillarious description of the Scoobs looks :P

Aidan go check out the Stig's Domain for what he has to say on the WRX.

I honestly dont think people realize how big the markup price is on this car.... ya msrp 70-90k? um no... the markup starts around 160-170k in the U.S., think im full of crap? go to an EXOTIC car dealership (if you can find a place that has one) same goes with the R8 with an msrp of 120k, my uncle owns an exotic car dealership, it starts around 180k. like love9stick said compare the gt-r to a z06, better yet the new zr1. not an evo lol

which car are u talking about?
the official price in Italy of the GT-R is 75355 euro ($119000) so i'm pretty sure in Usa will be less than that.
(just to give u an idea, the evo X gsr is going to cost 45000 euro here, that's $70000)

pricing is completely different in other countries. supply and demand. the evo cost more money in europe than it does in the u.s. because we have so many of them. the gt-r cost so much money here because we have none of them lol. and did i just see you type 70k for an evo x gsr in the united states? plz tell you made a typo. my evox cost 33k out the door...

sorry i didnt state im in Italy.
here we have plenty of Evo up to IX, which did cost 43000 euro ($67000).
up to now we dont have any GT-R at all and those going to book it now will receive it on spring 2009.
i meant here in Italy the X gsr is 45000 euro that is $70000, i know there in Usa is half the price. so as all other japanese and american cars, in Usa are half the price than here in Italy.

dang lucky you are in italy, i wish i was too hahaha. thats crazy the evo x is twice the price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have you seen anybody with the evo x in italy yet?

dang lucky you are in italy, i wish i was too hahaha. thats crazy the evo x is twice the price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have you seen anybody with the evo x in italy yet?

yeah unfortunately any jap or american cars here is twice the price (ex: Z06 here is $140000).
i didnt see any X yet, officially they're going to sell them from autumn '08

pricing is completely different in other countries. supply and demand. the evo cost more money in europe than it does in the u.s. because we have so many of them. the gt-r cost so much money here because we have none of them lol. and did i just see you type 70k for an evo x gsr in the united states? plz tell you made a typo. my evox cost 33k out the door...
It's not supply and demand, its taxes and custom duties. The prices are prettiy much the same in almost all countries. 70K for an X in Russia too, for example. Only in US cars are sold at half price :mad: :D

so taxes and customs are what make the car almost 100k markup on the gt-r? i believe it can make up for around half of that. (and yes thats what it is here in the U.S. ive seen the sticker). personally i dont think so lol, they just know filthy rich people are willing to pay that much for the gt-r. they know they are getting pretty much 0 of the cars in stock, why sell the only gtr they get for around the msrp price. its like the bmw 135i, base model 34.9k im pretty sure, but a base model at newport bmw is like 42k. i asked why so much? they said why not? people are willing to buy it

I wish they were markups, then I could negotiate/wait/or buy a car with less demand. But unfortunately high demand results in long wait times here for popula cars.
In my country prices are mostly set by the companies and not by dealers. You can, for example, check the prices for Chrysler lineup. This is Chrysler site, not a site of some deler:
http://www.chrysler.ru/prices.html
Then compare with US prices. No markups, just *&^%ing taxes...
When I was shopping for a 335i, a reasonably optioned car was just under 100k. In US it would be about 47K - that's, like, 30K Euros. Even in Germany it costs more than that.

jeeeez thats so much money for a 335i

I honestly dont think people realize how big the markup price is on this car.... ya msrp 70-90k? um no... the markup starts around 160-170k in the U.S., think im full of crap? go to an EXOTIC car dealership (if you can find a place that has one) same goes with the R8 with an msrp of 120k, my uncle owns an exotic car dealership, it starts around 180k. like love9stick said compare the gt-r to a z06, better yet the new zr1. not an evo lol

seems the GT-R in USA starts from $69.850
http://www.kcsummersnissan.com/New-VehicleResearch.aspx?StyleId=1061748

seems the GT-R in USA starts from $69.850
http://www.kcsummersnissan.com/New-VehicleResearch.aspx?StyleId=1061748


if without a mark up i can see the light of owning it with in two years. i might pay 75% and loan the 25%, i tried to search other niissan dealer and they still don't have in their inventory.

but where is the USDM MR until now?

thats base msrp lol. I wish it was that price I'd save for one of those. but thats pretty much the bold price they put on the sticker to get your attention, then at the very bottom in small print is the real price

the * note just says "excludes destination charge", it shouldnt be that much