Hey all,

I picked up a 2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback yesterday.

This will be a on-going project for me. The goal is for it to speak softly but carry a big stick, well, at least for a ralliart. :)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_032710/RA_SB_032710_01.jpg

Did some baseline pulls today. The car was 100% bone stock for this. 178 miles on the car. On the dyno was actually the first time it saw WOT. :beer:

Baseline:

192 whp / 210 wtq

17.7 psi peak tapering to 9.7 psi at 6200 RPM

12.5 AFR at peak boost (3300 rpm) tapering to 10.3 AFR (6200 rpm)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/RA_SB_032810/RA_SB_stock_032810_01safe.jpg

This is perfectly inline with all the 2009 stock Ralliarts that have been on this dyno so the 2010 seems to be making the same power stock.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_032710/RA_SB_032710_16s.jpg

Here are the stages I plan on going with this car:

1. 100% stock with custom tune

2. 100% stock with GST boost pill upgrade and custom tune

3. DW1000cc injectors, Blaqops single pump kit, GST boost pill upgrade, E85 and custom tune.

4. All of #3 plus start adding OEM Evo 10 parts like FMIC, IC pipes, etc

5. CBRD BBX?

I will be sharing all the data from these stages. I bought this car for my own development purposes, especially for SST development, to benefit all the RA and MR owners...

I'll be updating this thread as I go through the stages. :)

- Bryan

Can't wait to see it progress. I'm sure it will be sick.

Schweet

Interesting thing to note is that the 2010 Ralliart still has a aluminum valve cover where the 2010 Evolution moved to the black plastic composite valve cover.

- Bryan

Interested to see how this goes. Some very notable people in the X community are starting to pick these up lately, which I'm sure will mean big leaps in the next 6 months.

Also, don't know if you got my PM a couple days ago Bryan (inquiring about a tune). LMK if you didn't so I can re-send it.

when i bring my evo in for the CBRD BBX, Cams and all the other goodies for you to install, we can trade valve covers...make that your first Evo X stock part :D

Man, I wish they made an EVO version of the Ralliart.

Woo, nice pick up Bryan! Looks like you and Gates have some competition. :p

I have something for you Mr bryan ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/cbrd/DSC_2335.jpg

hee he

cb

^^^^^:confused2:^^^^^^^

Update:

While I'm busy putting some miles on the car to get ready for some tweaking (currently at 270 miles) I've been working closely with somebody to get access to more tables for the Ralliart. This person will remain unnamed for now so they won't get a ton of PM's. :D

Here is a sneak peak of some of the SST tables I will be able to really get into as far as testing on the Ralliart. One of the main reasons I bought this car:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/tech/2010_RA_SST_Tables_033010.gif

;):beer:

This weekend the car should have enough miles on it for me to do stage 1 and 2 that I outlined in the first post...

- Bryan

^ Awesome.

I know you want to keep trade secrets as trade secrets, but I'd love to hear how the SST changes are working for you and what you've found most beneficial. I know you've already been making changes with the X, but it would help us people way far away from you learn how to make the SST dance!

I know you want to keep trade secrets as trade secrets, but I'd love to hear how the SST changes are working for you and what you've found most beneficial. I know you've already been making changes with the X, but it would help us people way far away from you learn how to make the SST dance!

Yes this will all be shared in this thread. :)

- Bryan

:coffee: The MR guys are going to love you more Bryan!!! Might want by a bat to smack them back!

Sweeeeet! Hope this applies to all RA's in general, not just sportbacks, lol.

I'm happy to hear a local tuner is interested in the SST

moooar!

UPDATE: Completed stage 1, 100% stock with custom tune today:

Had to do the baseline again as our dyno computer crashed and we lost the data.

This is a custom tune, the car is still 100% stock down to the paper filter. It also has no boost pill upgrade yet.

223 whp / 241 wtq

Boost after tuning: 18.5 psi peak (3200rpm), tapering to 10 psi (7400rpm)

Boost factory stock: 17.5 psi peak (3400rpm), tapering to 9.5 psi (6500rpm)

Factory boost solenoid is at 100% currently

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/RA_SB_032810/040310/SportBack_040310.jpg

This is now making about the same horsepower as a stock Evo 10 on our dyno.

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Here is a WOT run 2nd gear through 4th and just into 5th gear, on the dyno.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/RA_SB_032810/040310/2nd_through_4th_intakeTemps_040310.gif

You can see the stock FMIC is ok for all of 2nd and all of 3rd but then can't keep shedding the heat anymore once into 4th.

Temp at the MAF stays constant but the Manifold temp raises 7*F

In a single 3rd gear pull the FMIC can keep up but not back to back pulls.

Keep in mind this is on our dyno, which has pretty big fans but obviously can't simulate the amount of frontal air flow deep in to higher gears and higher MPH. However, a good FMIC can still handle this as I have tested them in the same conditions on our dyno.

When I get some time, I'll do the same pull on the street.

It should be interesting to see the same data once I put the Evo 10 OEM FMIC on.

- Bryan

nice gain for a stocker! schedule my tune and if your interested in some stock evo parts im having a ton of work done :D

Great info! Plenty of RA's swap out our tiny FMIC for the Stock Evo X FMIC. Looking forward to see how they compare.

Wow looking good Bryan..you guys are the dyno gods for doing custom tunes!!

Man how i wished you guys weren't far..I need a good tune :(

Wow looking good Bryan..you guys are the dyno gods for doing custom tunes!!

Man how i wished you guys weren't far..I need a good tune :(


Not far. Maybe 6 hours away, and worth it. :coffee:

Not far. Maybe 6 hours away, and worth it. :coffee:

Doesn't sound that bad..do you have there address?

http://www.gstmotorsports.com/home/
2439 Industrial Parkway West, Suite A
Hayward, CA 94545
Tel: 510.264.9049

^^ thanks !! :)

Update:

Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors on their way, Evo 10 OEM FMIC and pipes ready to go in.

Testpipe on it's way as well...

So excited to see this sleeper, become a beast! When you plan on putting everything in? Would love to be there when she gets tuned Bryan. LMK!

Thats sweet lol. Nice sleeper

Another update: a Zeitronix wideband AFR and boost monitoring system is joining my little sportback project party as well.

GM 3 port boost solenoid with harness ready to go too. :)

- Bryan

Damn this RA is going to whoop my evo pretty soon, gotta get my e85 conversion fund started lol.

Small update:

I have about 800 miles on the car now. Took it for a drive out to Lake Sonoma in Healdsburg, which is off Skaggs Creek road, one of the best driving road in Northern California, IMHO.

In all honesty, I thought I was going to be really disappointed in the handling of this car but it really surprises me every time I have a chance to throw it around. I'll get this out of the way first, it's not my Evo by any means, but I never expected it to be. I haven't really pushed the car hard and really haven't put alot of heat through it. I know this is where it's going to seperate itself from the Evo, and I totally understand that and have no issue with that, but this thing still surprises me.

I like the SST more then I ever thought I would. Flying into a corner and dropping down gears by just tapping some paddles a couple times and without it upsetting the chassis just amazes me every time. I've been a die hard manual user all my life but this SST continues to impress me.

The low end grunt of this turbo coupled with the SST makes blasting out of corners with the back end wagging out just right and then clicking up through the gears is just straight up fun every time. The stock turbo loses all its fun dynamics at higher speeds like the freeway where the car feels slow as a snail, at least compared to my Evo.

The ride is much stiffer then I imagined it would be. It's not bad but you can tell this chassis is much stiffer then the CT9A, no surprises there. Having a quiet car has been great and I am going to try really hard to maintain that, which has been my game plan with this car and will continue to be.

The huge side mirrors create a TON of wind noise at highway speeds. It's actually a big annoying but i'll trade that for the relentless drone my Evo produces at the same speeds.

It seems really easy to invoke ASC in this car with it all stock down to the stock tires and it's a bit annoying when it starts kicking in so I just started turning it off when I am driving the car with fun in mind.

The car averaged 24 mpg on the way to the lake and back. It's up about 1-2 mpg with the tune. Not bad but I was expecting a bit more with the tune and the car being 100% stock. Keep in mind I am used to 17-20 mpg with my 400whp+ E85 Evo 8.

I've had a ton of use for the hatch already and it's AWESOME. I just throw crap back there and it's really easy to open the hatch and close it back up and go. The hatch just fits my lifestyle right now and to have a hatch with AWD and a turbocharged 4B11 is just icing on the cake. I love it.

This car so far gets much more looks then my Evo ever did, by just normal random average people. Probably because it's a bit odd looking and a bit different then other cars on the road.

This car is going to get really fun with E85 and more power......

- Bryan

Wish they made an EVO Hatch....sigh.

Wish they made an EVO Hatch....sigh.
:+1: from me
:+1: from Lady X

Update:

Zeitronix ZT-2 wideband and ZR-2 multigauge showed up along with Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors.

Trying to find some time to do the boost pill stage to get more data. Then swap to the Evo 10 FMIC and pipes and get some data collection with that. I've been swamped so it's not progressing as fast as I would like right now.

Some good news is that I have been tweaking a bunch of SST parameters over the last couple days and I am getting the car to shift/downshift pretty close to how I want it to in Sport Manual mode at cruise / part throttle and WOT, nice and smooth but firm. :)

- Bryan

in what way has the shift changed after tweaking the sst parameters? Is it grabbing sooner without slipping the clutch while cruising?

Ok a little update.

I've been swamped so I haven't had any free time to work on the car at all. Just been driving it and doing some ecu tweaks here and there. The car has 11XX miles on it now.

However I have been assembling a nice little pile of parts for the project.

Expect reviews / data / photos on the current list here soon, it's looking like it's going to be a fun project! ;)

1. Eibach prokit lowering springs (just need to lower the car a little, keeping it simple for now)

2. Injector Dynamic 1000cc injectors (for E85 conversion)

3. BlaqOps single pump upgrade (for E85 conversion)

4. Zeitronix ZT-22 Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Meter with ZR-2 Multi Gauge

5. Evo 10 FMIC

6. Evo 10 IC pipes

7. Evo 9 metal BOV

8. Mini-Battery

9. CBRD BBX stock appearing turbo upgrade. ;)

10. Test pipe with in-line mini-muffler

11. GM 3-port boost solenoid

12. Tephra Map-switching mod with knock light

That's about it for now. Hoping to do a big chunk of the things on the list in the next couple weeks.

- Bryan

Cool man!!!

The BBX will be quite a change in how it drives! You'll love the power, but you might even miss the get-up-and-go of that little sucker.

Let us know how TephraMODs works on the RA, it's a nice addition to the already expansive ECU parameters. Hopefully you don't get too many bricks ;) (Now that tephra has the USDM X "working", the RA is probably well on its way. I don't know if too many changes exist between the RA and X ECU)

13. CBRD FMIC and IC PIPES LOL!

Sweet project Bryan, don't know how I missed this thread but look forward to updates!

I've been so busy I haven't had any time to install anything on the Sportback lately but I'll throw up these photos as a kind of teaser:

Injector Dynamic 1000cc injectors:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/ID1000cc_050310.jpg

Zeitronix Wideband:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/zeitronix.jpg

GM 3-port boost solenoid:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/gm3port.jpg

Had some free time to do some installs on the sportback.

Installed the Eibach prokit springs. The rear is a pita.

Also installed a UR testpipe with mini muffler. I ran out of time to throw it back on the dyno but I did do some quick little street pulls today to clean up the tune.

It is now time to get this craptastic OEM FMIC off this car. The logs are unbelievable!

This is 1st through 4th gear WOT pull, and this in Fahrenheit:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/2010_RA/050910_MAT.gif

Blue is intake manifold temp sensor, orange is metered at the MAF.

yes that is 115F measured at the intake manifold once into 4th gear, while the air ingestion at the MAF is 67F

- Bryan

Lol! Yeah man that warm lol. Fmic please!

Finally got around to taking a photo with the Eibach springs on:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/RA_prokit_051610_02.jpg

Finally got around to taking a photo with the Eibach springs on:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/RA_prokit_051610_02.jpg
Love those Sportbacks. NIce job!

great looking drop.. Im still not sold on the rear of the hatch.. but great job so far.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/RA_TrunkFullOfParts_052310.jpg

;)

- Bryan

Looks like some nice stock 10 pipes. Is that factory IC for the 10? What's in the other two boxes?

Looks like some nice stock 10 pipes. Is that factory IC for the 10? What's in the other two boxes?

CBRD FMIC

Evo 10 turbo to send to Chad for BBX upgrade

Evo 10 Exhaust mani

:)

Took the Evo out of the garage today

BFF's:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/RA_SB_Evo_BFF_052310.jpg

- Bryan

UPS dropped off the box full of parts for the turbo swap:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/RA_TurboSwapPartsBox_052410.jpg

Now just to send the Evo 10 turbo core to Chad @ CBRD and get it transformed into a BBX!

NICE!!

nice pick up, did you happen to monitor the MPG? :D
just wondering how much better it is than the X

So Sunday we will hear about what she will do on the dyno right? Come on Bryan! J/k looks cool man.

Had some time to get my UMPC working in the Ralliart with the OpenPort 2.0 Cable, running Evoscan:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/01_viliv_052810.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/02_viliv_052810.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/03_viliv_052810.jpg

Couple new additions to the project I just picked up:

White 24mm rear swaybar:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/RA_Whiteline_RearSway.jpg

Evo 10 OEM 18x8.5 Enkei wheels:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/RA_evo10_Enkeis.jpg

My plan is to powdercoat the wheels satin black but I might mount some tires on them first to see how fitment is before I drop the coin for powdercoating

- Bryan

That UMPC is sexy!

Damn Bryan now i need to get a fp red to keep up with you.

Alrighty I finally got some installs happening.

Today I installed the CBRD FMIC and Evo 10 OEM ic pipes!

From stock:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_09.jpg

to CBRD:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_02.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_01.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_03.jpg

Evo 10 IC piping:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/Evo10_IC_pipes_01.jpg

Before install comparisons. Just a tad bit of differences. ;)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_08.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_07.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/Evo10_IC_pipes_02.jpg

Before bumper went on:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_06.jpg

Install was VERY tight in places but I only had to do one tiny little modification.

Here is how close it is to the AC condensor part:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_04.jpg

One tab on the bumper beam has to be bent to clear the CBRD Fmic:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_051610/FMIC_and_Pipes/CBRD_FMIC_05.jpg

The FMIC also pushes down just slightly on the undertray. Every thing goes back on ok but the undertray buldges just a tiny bit underneath.

Also the long tab at the bottom of the CBRD Fmic does not work on the RA as there is nothing to attach it to. I'll have to look under a Evo 10 and see what the differences are.

Great FMIC from CBRD though. Chad is making some killer parts!

Will get actual performance data soon....

- Bryan

no one tell you yet ?? :p

The rims ain't gonna fit without those flared fenders..

Looks good Bryan!!!

no one tell you yet ?? :p

The rims ain't gonna fit without those flared fenders..

They fit. It's the tires you have to be wise about. ;)

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/128/l_e3ba61ce7fea45828592d4ce68a5eba1.jpg

Nice and flush!

thanks for posting the graph and the numbers. I had been wondering how my 09 ralliart would do on the dyno..

They fit. It's the tires you have to be wise about. ;)



Nice to know .. seen them on the normal Lancer GTS .. they stick out like dogs balls.. and definitely wasn't the tires :thumbup:

Maybe the idiots were running spacers :D

Got some data with the CBRD FMIC upgrade today.

HUGE difference over the stock FMIC as far as actually working like a intercooler. ;)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/2010_RA/060510/OEM_vs_CBRD_FMIC_060510.gif

Notice that with the CBRD data, the ambient temp at the MAF was approx 85F, where with the OEM it was approx 67F, so it was approx 20F warmer day, and the CBRD still never got heatsoaked like the OEM did pre-WOT.

Through 2nd and 3rd gear WOT, the CBRD FMIC never exceeds 10F warmer at the intake manifold then the temp at the MAF, where the OEM was almost 40F warmer then at the MAF!

Glad to finally have a proper intercooler on this car, espically with the summer temps coming... :)

- Bryan

Pimp man!

Put the RA on the dyno today after adding some parts.

The car sits with these mods currently, everything else is 100% stock:

Mitsu metal OEM bov (Evo 9/10)
Evo 10 upper/lower intercooler piping
CBRD FMIC
UR test pipe
GST Boost pill upgrade

It was about 30-35F warmer today (Approx 85F) then the last time (approx 55F) the car had been on the dyno. Which I'm sure skewed things a bit unfortunately.

I also think I might be over-spinning the dinky OEM turbo at this point and the larger FMIC might be a little too big for this toy turbo. ;)

It started getting warmer in the dyno room so I decided to end the session early. I think it's time to upgrade the turbo on this car. :)

Today it put down:

221 whp / 268 wtq
23 psi peak, falling to 12.5 psi

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/2010_RA/060510/RA_SB_testpipeFMIC_SAFE_060510.jpg

Here is today compared to last time when it was 100% stock but tuned (and approx 30-35F cooler out)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/2010_RA/060510/RA_modded_vs_stock_SAFE_060510.jpg

As you can see it gained a healthy amount of power (+27wtq / +20whp) in the low to mid range but struggled past 6,000 rpm.

The good news is the car is now making +70 wtq / +60 whp over 100% bone stock at 4,000 rpm which is pretty impressive for such a small turbo:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/2010_RA/060510/RA_vs_stock_SAFE_060510.jpg




I think it's time to get away from the stock turbo subaru type graphs and get a real turbo on this RA. :)

Bryan that is dope man! About the same as stop X now man! Cool beans!

Bryan that is dope man! About the same as stop X now man! Cool beans!

100% stock with a tune was the same as a stock 2008 Evo 10 on our dyno. Now it's making more torque. Of course, a 100% stock Evo 10 with just a tune would destroy it with +60 to +70 more whp. :(

Time for a real turbo.... ;)

- Bryan

Great progress - looking forward to watching the project develop.

100% stock with a tune was the same as a stock 2008 Evo 10 on our dyno. Now it's making more torque. Of course, a 100% stock Evo 10 with just a tune would destroy it with +60 to +70 more whp. :(

Time for a real turbo.... ;)

- Bryan

Well yeah man, X better with a tune lol. Get that turbo now!

I think the sst loosens up after a while, mine feels faster now with 20,000 miles

Another addition to the project, JDM emblem yo!

Going to replace the "Lancer" emblem on the back with this:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/2010_RA/sportback_badge_060910.jpg

100% stock with a tune was the same as a stock 2008 Evo 10 on our dyno. Now it's making more torque. Of course, a 100% stock Evo 10 with just a tune would destroy it with +60 to +70 more whp. :(

Time for a real turbo.... ;)

- Bryan

Oh really? What you thinking? I'll sell you a stock X turbo cheap ;)

Another addition to the project, JDM emblem yo!

Going to replace the "Lancer" emblem on the back with this:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/2010_RA/sportback_badge_060910.jpg

put that bitch on and post pics :D

While I am waiting for the turbo upgrade to come in I ended up having some free time and I took the "LANCER" emblem off and replaced it with this:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_071010/RA_SportbackEmblem02.jpg


Teaser:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/evo10wheels_black_071610.jpg

Nice. I'm so jealous. I wish I had the money to get one of these as well for my daily driver. I may look into it when the evo's paid off. Wheels are gonna look good.

Very nice man. I'll be tagging along for updates:rock:

Very nice!

Those wheels will look nice as heck on there.

Ok wheels and tires are on!

Took some quick crappy photos in direct sun today. Will shoot better at some point. ;)

The offset is pretty much spot on perfect for the RA. I'm really happy with how it came out.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback/RA_Evo10wheels_side_071910.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback/RA_Evo10wheels_RearSide_071910.jpg

Sweet!!

will gsr or mr front fenders bolt right up to this? would look sick with the fender vents.

will gsr or mr front fenders bolt right up to this? would look sick with the fender vents.

Yes but then you need Evo X front bumper, etc etc, then you have wide front fenders with normal rear fenders. ahha

- Bryan

Here is a shot down the side to show how the offset lines up so well, IMHO at least. ;)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback/RA_Evo10wheels_Fullside_071910.jpg

Nice wheels! Did you get them PC flat black, or is there a % of gloss in there?

I just found this thread.

Awesome!

Nice wheels! Did you get them PC flat black, or is there a % of gloss in there?

Satin black so not matte black but not gloss black. :)

Looking good Bryan! Maybe I can find me one as a DD now. What's price tag vs Evo? Never looked it up.

Brian, I have a complete stock turbo with manifold, all bolts, brackets and lines from an 2008 GSR with only 8.5k on it. Perfect condition! I'm located about 20min from you! PM your email and I'll send pics.

^^^^i think chad is already taking care of that...

Brian, I have a complete stock turbo with manifold, all bolts, brackets and lines from an 2008 GSR with only 8.5k on it. Perfect condition! I'm located about 20min from you! PM your email and I'll send pics.

Thanks for the offer but the CBRD BBX Lite just arrived from Chad and I already have all the install parts. :)

Looking good Bryan! Maybe I can find me one as a DD now. What's price tag vs Evo? Never looked it up.
ive heard of them going for like 23k-28k

That is so beautiful. Oddly, I thought I wasn't going to like the sportback.

ive heard of them going for like 23k-28k

Yup that's about right depending on options.

Mine was MSRP at 31k if you can believe it. (Recaro package which includes Recaros, HIDS and stereo upgrade) I think that's insane personally.

I got it for much cheaper then that, that's for sure. ;)

- Bryan

Looks great in a sportback.

Very nice Ralliart :)

cant wait to see more updates

Looking sweet!

More teasers:

CBRD BBX Lite

Going on the car next Friday! :)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/CBRD_BBX_lite.jpg

- Bryan

Nice, B!

Right on man! Still love this thread!

Ok so here is where the car sits with the CBRD BBX lite, so far, on 91 octane.

Mods:

CBRD FMIC
CBRD BBX Lite stock appearing turbo
Evo 10 OEM spark plugs (RA uses 7 heat range, Evo 10 uses 8)
Evo 10 Exhaust manifold
Specialty-Z 02-Downpipe combo
Ultimate racing test pipe with mini muffler
Stock catback and mid pipe
Injector Dynamic 1000cc injectors
Evo 10 Intercooler pipes
Evo 9 metal BOV
GM 3-port boost solenoid
AEM intake
Tuned using EcuFlash and Tephra V1 map switch + knock light rom upgrade + PSI-target boost control
91 octane

+ 120 whp gains at 7400 rpm!

+ 95 whp peak to peak gains

24.5 psi

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/RA_SB_032810/082110/me_SBRA_BBXlite_082110_safe.jpg

You can see the dip in the mid range that I couldn't dial out yet. I think there is some airflow issues there with the stock catback and this turbo. You can see the associated dip in boost in this chart:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/RA_SB_032810/082110/RA_BBXlite_PSIandGS_082110.gif

The boost plot is tuned with the strategy that I didn't want to bring the boost on as a spike or hit hard because of the SST trans. I did do a couple pulls where I brought it on pretty strong and it would hit target 24.5 psi at around 3900 rpm, in 3rd gear, which is only about 300rpm later then the stock RA turbo.

MAF grams/sec plotted as well. At 24.5 PSI it peaked at 365.7 which is 48.37 lb/min. The stock RA turbo peaks about 33 lb/min and the stock Evo 10 turbo around 41 lb/min for reference.

So far very impressed with this turbo. It's making great power with the limited amount of mods on this car and the stock catback!

- Bryan

Ok so here is where the car sits with the CBRD BBX lite, so far, on 91 octane.

Mods:

CBRD FMIC
CBRD BBX Lite stock appearing turbo
Evo 10 OEM spark plugs (RA uses 7 heat range, Evo 10 uses 8)
Evo 10 Exhaust manifold
Specialty-Z 02-Downpipe combo
Ultimate racing test pipe with mini muffler
Stock catback and mid pipe
Injector Dynamic 1000cc injectors
Evo 10 Intercooler pipes
Evo 9 metal BOV
GM 3-port boost solenoid
AEM intake
Tuned using EcuFlash and Tephra V1 map switch + knock light rom upgrade + PSI-target boost control
91 octane

+ 120 whp gains at 7400 rpm!

+ 95 whp peak to peak gains

24.5 psi

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/RA_SB_032810/082110/me_SBRA_BBXlite_082110_safe.jpg

You can see the dip in the mid range that I couldn't dial out yet. I think there is some airflow issues there with the stock catback and this turbo. You can see the associated dip in boost in this chart:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/evo_tunes/me/RA_SB_032810/082110/RA_BBXlite_PSIandGS_082110.gif

The boost plot is tuned with the strategy that I didn't want to bring the boost on as a spike or hit hard because of the SST trans. I did do a couple pulls where I brought it on pretty strong and it would hit target 24.5 psi at around 3900 rpm, in 3rd gear, which is only about 300rpm later then the stock RA turbo.

MAF grams/sec plotted as well. At 24.5 PSI it peaked at 365.7 which is 48.37 lb/min. The stock RA turbo peaks about 33 lb/min and the stock Evo 10 turbo around 41 lb/min for reference.

So far very impressed with this turbo. It's making great power with the limited amount of mods on this car and the stock catback!

- Bryan

Looks good bryan!

Hey, I need to talk to you about what you saw in my recent tune and what you think may be the issue. :confused2:

Very nice!

So 33lb/s -> 48lb/s represents a 45% increase in airflow

However for EvoX its 41, so going to 48lbs would only represent a 17% increase in airflow.

I would still be VERY interested in seeing how one performs on an X.

I also reckon once you fix that diving tq you will make more power on the top end ... (check your logs for timing pull, or tps pull)

I also reckon once you fix that diving tq you will make more power on the top end ... (check your logs for timing pull, or tps pull)

No timing or TPS pull shenanigans. ;)

- Bryan

just boost snafu then?

just boost snafu then?

Yea I think the flapper in the exhaust is not liking the airflow. Not sure.

I'm most likely putting a modded internal OEM muffler on soon and we'll see.

There is also some fine tuning still to be done. This was a pretty quick tune, I threw the car on the dyno after a long day of tuning others...

This turbo for sure has more then 48lb/min in it. It held 24.5 psi to 7800 and WGDC was only 66% there to do that.

It's going to see E85 soon here...

- Bryan

Very nice!

So 33lb/s -> 48lb/s represents a 45% increase in airflow

However for EvoX its 41, so going to 48lbs would only represent a 17% increase in airflow.

I would still be VERY interested in seeing how one performs on an X.

I also reckon once you fix that diving tq you will make more power on the top end ... (check your logs for timing pull, or tps pull)

nice results bryan ;)

results will come soon for the X when chad sends me the lite. still waiting :(

just read everything. sounds like a fun project! subscribed for sure!

these two ralliart version is really de tuned version of evo....look at those small intercooler, few mods will have a nice bump. that stock taper to 7psi is horrible.

The poor sportback got hit from behind this weekend, it was feeling down, so I took her out to the bar...

Now the real fun begins....

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/E85/RA_SB_FirstTankOfE85_090710.jpg

- Bryan

:D Now your talking!

you got hit from behind? sounds like that turbo isn't big enough to make a quick get away :D

hope the damage isn't too bad...

you got hit from behind? sounds like that turbo isn't big enough to make a quick get away :D

hope the damage isn't too bad...

I forgot to post this snippet here:


Did a 560 mile round trip this labor day weekend to Mt. Shasta and back in the Sportback. It's first road trip.

Happy to report the car averaged 24.8 MPG there and 25.3 MPG back, average speed 65 mph according to the dash but I was cruising most of the time on the hwy at 75mph. This was with a bit of WOT fun as well in the mountains.

Very happy with this from a car making 120+ whp then stock and running 1000 cc injectors.

Trip was great until on the way back, a girl in a honda accord decided to run into the back of me *after* we where both stopped in traffic on the hwy.... she hit me hard enough to shove my car forward even with me on the brakes and have her plate numbers formed into my bumper cover, lmao.. {pcfreak} :(

Time for a new rear bumper cover and beam, hoping nothing else...

- Bryan

The poor sportback got hit from behind this weekend, it was feeling down, so I took her out to the bar...

- Bryan

how bad was the damage?

What size tires did you put on your GSR wheels? Any rubbing issues?

Ok went to finally tune the RA on E85.

Unfortunatly I ended up maxing the fuel system out pretty quickly for some odd reason. Not sure why, I'm going to have to look over everything as this same fuel setup is good for a little over 400whp and 28psi or so on the Evo 10's, on E85 I've tuned on our dyno.

On the good side, at only 25psi (only .5 psi more then my 91 octane tune) the car made:

358 whp / 311 wtq

Which is pretty impressive to me with the "low" boost and still having the stock catback.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/CBRD_BBX_LITE/me_SB_RA_E85vs91_100210.jpg

When I get some time I'm going to look through the fuel system and see what's going on.

She sure zips along with 360whp though. :)

- Bryan

Wouldn't mind making this kinda of powah!!!

Wow, big numbers! Can the stock ralliart SST handle all that power?

Good job B! Still one of the most dope thread there is!

Holy F-balls!! So my buddy was almost sold on the X MR-T but he wants to save some money and can't live without fold down seats, so he's looking at the Ralliart Sportback and asked what we could do to bring it to "like" evo power. Naturally I'm reading your thread and it makes ME want a sportback. That drop and wheels are dead sexy on white, and the gains from modest upgrades are awesome!! Subscribing to hear more developments!!

The CBRD intercooler - is that the same one they sell for the Evo X?

Following this thread as I'm now a Sportback RA owner!

Question for you Bryan. I'm not sure if this is obvious or not, but do the normal RA exhausts also fit on the sportback RA?

Great question, I was wondering that myself just this afternoon!!

Question for you Bryan. I'm not sure if this is obvious or not, but do the normal RA exhausts also fit on the sportback RA?

As far as I know, yes.

Good info, thanks. I have a buddy who just bought a SBRA and this will be helpful for him.

Good info, thanks. I have a buddy who just bought a SBRA and this will be helpful for him.

eh hem. I wonder who that is lol

Holy F-balls!! So my buddy was almost sold on the X MR-T but he wants to save some money and can't live without fold down seats, so he's looking at the Ralliart Sportback and asked what we could do to bring it to "like" evo power. Naturally I'm reading your thread and it makes ME want a sportback. That drop and wheels are dead sexy on white, and the gains from modest upgrades are awesome!! Subscribing to hear more developments!!

The CBRD intercooler - is that the same one they sell for the Evo X?

yes our same intercooler!

we are adding a bracket for additional support on the RA.

we are also developing a stock housing turbo for the RA so you dont need to upgrade to the evo X turbo setup ;)

CBRD is picking up an RA shortly... then all heck will break loose ;)

Thanks to Bryan,

we have an informational headstart!

cb

yes our same intercooler!

we are adding a bracket for additional support on the RA.

we are also developing a stock housing turbo for the RA so you dont need to upgrade to the evo X turbo setup ;)

CBRD is picking up an RA shortly... then all heck will break loose ;)

Thanks to Bryan,

we have an informational headstart!

cb

:+1:

I'm liking what I'm hearing. Hope to see some good stuff soon! Which model year RA are you guys picking up?

Looking forward to seeing some more development on the RA platform!

ours has gone through some testing..

baseline 187-194whp and 210-219wtq...

we tested bov's...

tested our fmic (evo X, that bryan is using... which picked up 12-14whp peak.. little more at redline)...

this week we will be doing more testing!

Our RA upgraded turbo will be coming along ;)

cb

ours has gone through some testing..

baseline 187-194whp and 210-219wtq...

we tested bov's...

tested our fmic (evo X, that bryan is using... which picked up 12-14whp peak.. little more at redline)...

this week we will be doing more testing!

Our RA upgraded turbo will be coming along ;)

cb
:rock: :godance:

First trip to the snow with the RA... here is to many more... not much snow on the roads yet but hey it's only the start of December. :)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/Tahoe_120410/01_tahoe_120410.jpg

Reason #457 I love my Sportback:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/Tahoe_120410/02_tahoe_120410.jpg

Obviously the MPG gauge is a bit off with larger injectors and E85. ;)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/Tahoe_120410/03_tahoe_120410.jpg

Car actually averaged about 19mpg to and from Tahoe on E85. Not bad at all.

The white/black looks awesome!! Especially in the snow. Really digging the sportback.

Looking good :)

awesome bryan,

and i need to thank tephra, for getting me a 2011 rom file.. and bryan for calling me an idiot and telling me how to fix my logging lol!

I will have pics this week hopefully of ours with the X MR bbs' on it and advan tires (thanks advan)

cheers

cb

I am quite jealous of the ralliart..I am thinking I will pick one up for my dd after I pay off the retard build.

I am not a ralliart owner(evo X) but I have been following this thread since before I was a member, and just wanted to say props for a great build.

Made a quick video today to show just how quiet this car really is at WOT.

Quick pull to under 60mph (http://vimeo.com/18311155)

What's that mounted on the dash trim? Not sure if the video just can't display it correctly or what.

What's that mounted on the dash trim? Not sure if the video just can't display it correctly or what.

Zeitronix ZR-2

The camera does the same thing with the OEM clock as well. Must not like LEDs...

Ahhh excellent, I was looking at those. Well, the digital multiline display for the controller, anyway.

I'm driving the Evo all this week, letting the RA take a break.

Snapped a quick photo of them together today.... awww so cute together.. ;)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/images/BrotherAndSister.jpg

I now know what your cheek looks like.

And I am pleased.

Made a quick video today to show just how quiet this car really is at WOT.

Quick pull to under 60mph (http://vimeo.com/18311155)

whole lotta shakin and bouncing going on in that video. Yes, it's very quiet

whole lotta shakin and bouncing going on in that video. Yes, it's very quiet

Yea, bit of a old bumpy road there. ;)

Is that stock muffler with mod?

Is that stock muffler with mod?

100% stock catback, no mod.

100% stock catback, no mod.

Nice, didnt you also tune some guy with a fpRed to 370whp with full stock exhaust? Stock X/Rally exhaust flows good.:rock:

BUMP for Update?

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Nice, didnt you also tune some guy with a fpRed to 370whp with full stock exhaust? Stock X/Rally exhaust flows good.:rock:

CBRD BBX, 100% stock exhaust, meaning OEM downpipe, OEM cat, OEM catback. 370 whp on E85. Trapped 117.

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I've just been driving it and doing slight tune tweaks, mainly for SST.

I do still need to get the fueling sorted. Waiting for the larger single pumps to come out to so I can test one.

I've just been driving it and doing slight tune tweaks, mainly for SST.

I do still need to get the fueling sorted. Waiting for the larger single pumps to come out to so I can test one.

Assuming it uses the same fuel tank / system as the evo x you dont think the Blaq Ops single pump kit with Walbro 255 is good enough on the build? Im not sure what your goals are considering you just go with the flow on the build it seems.

Assuming it uses the same fuel tank / system as the evo x you dont think the Blaq Ops single pump kit with Walbro 255 is good enough on the build? Im not sure what your goals are considering you just go with the flow on the build it seems.

It is currently using the single pump kit with a Walbro 255.

So I threw the Sportback back on the dyno today just to check the AFR and clean it up a little if I had to. 3rd gear was all good, pretty much running right in spec power wise from last time.

Also did a pull in 4th to make sure everything was ok.

I'm still impressed by the power this thing is making at the boost level and still with stock catback.

370whp / 326 wtq in 4th gear.

26.5 psi peak and I taper it to about 24.5 psi up top to keep the Injector duty cycles under 100%.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/020511/me_SB_020511.jpg

The little dip in 4th gear at 6500 is because I have the boost error correction tight to make sure I don't max out the IDC's up top.

I am now getting a little bit of logged clutch slip but I can't feel nor do I see it really register in the power curve (yet). I really wish the RA had S-Sport mode to get the clutch pressure up a little higher. I would love the added pressure with the power the car is making.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/020511/Slip_RA_020511.gif

I did another 4th gear pull on the street to show how well the CBRD BBX lite spools in 4th.

26psi in 4th at 3500rpm.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/020511/BBX_Lite_4th_RA.gif

^^nice...and with stock catback.

It is currently using the single pump kit with a Walbro 255.

Roger that! Must have over read that tid bit :duh:


Nice Numbers on the stock cat back... Where the SB is at now would you try to make a run with it? I am curious on the 60' and trap speed it would make.

Roger that! Must have over read that tid bit :duh:


Nice Numbers on the stock cat back... Where the SB is at now would you try to make a run with it? I am curious on the 60' and trap speed it would make.

One of these days I might take it out to car bowling. It's not really my thing though.

One of these days I might take it out to car bowling. It's not really my thing though.

Why bother man. Its hard on the parts and u get to waste a bunch of money driving in a straight line which you could have done for free on a local highway.

Why bother man. Its hard on the parts and u get to waste a bunch of money driving in a straight line which you could have done for free on a local highway.


Im curious to how it compares to EVO Xs making comparable power. My main question here is acceleration from a stand still to 60ph and then trap speed. Im just curious on how its panning out also with the drive train also with the slight slip on the readings also.

Finally installed the Thule rack.

Great fit with the OEM mounting points.

Also put some clear vinyl down at the contact points to reduce any possible wear to the paint.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/thule_rack/01_thule.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/thule_rack/02_thule.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/thule_rack/03_thule.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/thule_rack/04_thule.jpg

Looks really good on the car.

Your winter car shames my winter car.............. :theeye:

Accent :fail:

Some photos from the this last weekend:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/Tahoe_022711/01_Tahoe_022711.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/Tahoe_022711/02_Tahoe_022711.jpg

Are fic 900 plenty for e85 on a evo X with stock turbo and cams?

yeh easy...

Haven't done anything to the project, just been driving it, some new photos from Tahoe this weekend.... most snow since the 50's:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_Tahoe_032711/Tahoe_01_032711.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_Tahoe_032711/Tahoe_02_032711.jpg

Sick build! Nice to see some RA's getting in on the fun!

I'm moving to El dorado Hills the end of may, I think you pass through on the way to Tahoe.

I'm moving to El dorado Hills the end of may, I think you pass through on the way to Tahoe.

That's a nice area. I lived in Tahoe for awhile and worked in Placerville. I always liked the foothills area. Much less snow to deal with, and cooler in the Summer than the valley.

i need to win the lotto so i can finish my RA so i wakes up out of its coma and becomes a true sleeper.

That's a nice area. I lived in Tahoe for awhile and worked in Placerville. I always liked the foothills area. Much less snow to deal with, and cooler in the Summer than the valley.

Holy shit the valley gets hot :tumbleweed: I switched to E85, thanks to Goldens tuning prowless so I'm ready for the move.

Holy shit the valley gets hot :tumbleweed: I switched to E85, thanks to Goldens tuning prowless so I'm ready for the move.

Good luck with your move Tim. I think you will like it up there.

:)

Looks great, i have been following this build on EvoM for a while. Great progress so far!

Little teaser of the next mod for the project:


http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/PBR_C5_Calipers/01_KORE_PBR_C5.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/PBR_C5_Calipers/02_KORE_PBR_C5.jpg

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/PBR_C5_Calipers/05_KORE_PBR_C5.jpg

Coming right along! I really would like to buy a Sportback for the wife..

any new news

any new news

Brake calipers going on soon. I've been spending most of my time doing R&D on SST tuning so....

aw yeah i hear ya on that one..damn SST is something else of course im sure ya know brother

Brake calipers going on soon. I've been spending most of my time doing R&D on SST tuning so....

Hi Bryan.

Still working on the SST tweaking? Awesome... I look forward to seeing the results! :)

Rich

Hey Bryan,

I know you added the BBX Lite Turbo and Injectors at the same time so I'm wondering if the stock injectors on the RA would be enough to support the BBX Lite. Also, are the RA stock injectors the same size as the Evo X's?

Hey Bryan,

I know you added the BBX Lite Turbo and Injectors at the same time so I'm wondering if the stock injectors on the RA would be enough to support the BBX Lite. Also, are the RA stock injectors the same size as the Evo X's?

No the stock injectors are not enough to properly support a BBX Lite.

The RA OEM injectors are the same as the Evo 10.

No the stock injectors are not enough to properly support a BBX Lite.

The RA OEM injectors are the same as the Evo 10.


May I ask which injectors you put in?

May I ask which injectors you put in?

ID1000cc

Which are also maxed out, on E85. The car has more power in it, I'm currently limited by the injectors. Only running 26.5psi boost because of it.

On pump gas they are fine.

Another question. Is the stock RA intake good enough for a BBX Lite or will I need to upgrade that also? That would mean battery relocation wouldn't it?

What about the stock RA intake with a stock Evo X turbo? Same deal?

Another question. Is the stock RA intake good enough for a BBX Lite or will I need to upgrade that also? That would mean battery relocation wouldn't it?

What about the stock RA intake with a stock Evo X turbo? Same deal?

OEM Evo 10 intake system is so cheap to get used (I just picked up one for $60 shipped with everything, induction tube, maf houseing, box, filter, bracket) you should just use that. You need to relocate the battery to use the OEM airbox though. If you use everything but the OEM airbox and just buy a 3" filter, that will bolt straight onto the OEM Maf housing.

I currently use a AEM Evo 10 intake which is also good.

If you use a mini battery it opens up many options for you.

OEM Evo 10 intake system is so cheap to get used (I just picked up one for $60 shipped with everything, induction tube, maf houseing, box, filter, bracket) you should just use that. You need to relocate the battery to use the OEM airbox though. If you use everything but the OEM airbox and just buy a 3" filter, that will bolt straight onto the OEM Maf housing.

I currently use a AEM Evo 10 intake which is also good.

If you use a mini battery it opens up many options for you.

Is that what you're doing right now? The mini battery? Or would the OEM Evo intake work with the stock battery?

Is that what you're doing right now? The mini battery? Or would the OEM Evo intake work with the stock battery?

Yes currently using a Evo 10 AEM intake with a mini battery layed on it's side:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_BBX_AEM_082010.jpg

As soon as somebody makes a battery bracket I'm relocating the mini battery by the ECU and finally putting the AEM airbox on.

Nice. Looks good. Sorry for all the questions. I'm just really serious about doing this and I want it done right. So which mini battery are you using? AMS or Braille?

Also, here's a good question...any risk to running the battery on its side like that? I always thought that wasn't the best of ideas?

And is it a direct bolt in or did you need to fashion some sort of bracket or tie down to get it to fit on its side? I know the AMS battery kit for the RA has the tie down etc to keep it upright..not sure if you did some custom work here?

The mini batteries are solid cell so you can mount them upside down, inside the cabin, on your trunk.... doesn't matter.

I'm using the AMS tie down kit with a Hawker Genesys battery.

In all honesty you can make your own tie down for $10 of parts. I was being lazy.

It's a strip of aluminum and two bent rods threaded with butterfly bolts.

All of your info has been much appreciated Bryan. Thanks :)

Bitsu - now you just gotta find out cost to upgrade stock Evo X turbo to BBX-Lite.. :)

Bitsu - now you just gotta find out cost to upgrade stock Evo X turbo to BBX-Lite.. :)

Working on it! Chad is out for the weekend!

Anyone else know how much they charge for the conversion?

Does anyone know if the fuel pump on the RA is the same as that on the EVO X? I know Bryan didn't mention changing the fuel pump at all before switching over to E85, but just wondering if the RA fuel pump will provide enough fuel with 93 octane.

Does anyone know if the fuel pump on the RA is the same as that on the EVO X? I know Bryan didn't mention changing the fuel pump at all before switching over to E85, but just wondering if the RA fuel pump will provide enough fuel with 93 octane.


All seemed the same to me when I took it out. I can check the number on the pump to make sure if you like.

All seemed the same to me when I took it out. I can check the number on the pump to make sure if you like.

If its easily accessible that would be cool. Otherwise, no big deal. I just had that question asked of me from the people doing my install and I had no idea what to tell them

Catback is on the car!

I decided to try out the Magnaflow in hopes it would be the quietest of the bunch. Plus I got a great deal on it from Mike@RRE. Thanks Mike!

I wasn't too crazy about the side inlet on the muffler which causes the odd bend of the piping off to one side, but in the end, you can't see it too much unless you squat down or sit down behind the car. The slip fittings were also not my first choice but I think they will be fine. At some point I will also take out the neck-down right where it comes off the cat.

What I do love is the OEM style tips. They are the perfect size, not too big, and fit in the Sportback exhaust bumper cutouts perfectly.

I've only driven it for abour 20mins so far but it's actually much quieter then I imagined it would be. I think the 'mini-muffler' test pipe I have is helping this. I have a feeling I might still put a small resonator in the midpipe to mellow it out a little bit when on throttle.

So far so good. :) Here are the photos. Pardon the dirty car.

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_Magnaflow/01_RA_Sportback_Magnaflow_072411.png

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_Magnaflow/02_RA_Sportback_Magnaflow_072411.png

Where's the dyno sheet after the exhaust? :p

A bunch of people on the interweb have not believed some of the E85 mileage numbers I have been posting over the last year in my RA Sportback.

Most state that they get low teens in mixed driving and I always reply that is horrible and that I get 16-17 in mixed driving and 19-20 on hwy. Some people have been crying foul about my statements and that it is "unbelievable".

Well, it looks like putting the new catback on has given me even better mileage, which makes sense since the car flows better.

I decided to take some photo proof of my mixed driving mileage so no crying foul is allowed now. ;) So here we go. Looks like I gained about 1-2mpg.

18.31mpg, mixed driving.

Mixed meaning I used the loud pedal more then once or twice. aka, still had fun with the car. ;)

Proof is in the pudding:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_Sportback_E85_MPG_072711.png

and in sport mode lol

Exhaust looks good, Bryan! Do you think it sounds like my Buschur?

Bryan I never doubted your ability to get decent gas mileage but I think you baby it more than some, well myself at least, lol. I am surprised people call you out on that though like its impossible haha.

I have zero doubts though that your tune is far better/suited to mpg's compared to mine.

My tune probably just isn't/wasn't a full full tune in order to fix some spots while cruising.

Maybe I will test it out when I get my car back. I will check mileage then pay you to do a clean up tune on mostly my normal driving shit and see what happens :)

Exhaust looks good, Bryan! Do you think it sounds like my Buschur?

It sounds almost the same. The magnaflow has resonated tips so it changes the tone a little.

and in sport mode lol

I drive in Sport Manual 99% of the time.

Bryan I never doubted your ability to get decent gas mileage but I think you baby it more than some, well myself at least, lol.

If using every on-ramp as a drag strip is babying it more than some, then sure. ;)

If using every on-ramp as a drag strip is babying it more than some, then sure. ;)

Well myself it would be but I am sure that is the norm for most evo people :)

That is solid gas mileage if you run it WOT that much even.

Like I said, I might need you to look mine over, more gas mileage isn't a bad thing :)

Well myself it would be but I am sure that is the norm for most evo people :)

That is solid gas mileage if you run it WOT that much even.

Like I said, I might need you to look mine over, more gas mileage isn't a bad thing :)

I'd be happy to help. It's not rocket science it's just experience, and I don't mean that in a cocky way what so ever.

Finally installed the brake upgrade today.

The size difference in the rotors is a bit funny:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_BrakeUpgrade/01_BrakeUpgrade_073011.png

Installed:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_BrakeUpgrade/02_BrakeUpgrade_073011.png

nice and much needed...

Why the Kore3 and not the X brembo's bryan? Is it a bolt pattern / spacing issue?

Might be nice not to have to turn the rotors the exact same amount on each side (for fixed) if the calipers are floating? Maybe they last longer?

Purty

Why the Kore3 and not the X brembo's bryan? Is it a bolt pattern / spacing issue?

Might be nice not to have to turn the rotors the exact same amount on each side (for fixed) if the calipers are floating? Maybe they last longer?

Yea the brembos need to be modified to work. These C5-C6 calipers bolt right on with the bracket. Also have C6 Z06 6-pistons available too but I don't need that much brake.

O man i really want a sport back now!!

Hey Bryan, whats the offset on those Enkei rims you have? Also, what size tires are you running? Its time to change my stock wheels out and I'm looking for something that'll be flush, or at least close to it.

Hey Bryan, whats the offset on those Enkei rims you have? Also, what size tires are you running? Its time to change my stock wheels out and I'm looking for something that'll be flush, or at least close to it.

18x8.5 +38

235/40/18

Will 11.9 dia fit with 17inch?
Looking to do a brake upgrade after winter.

Sneak peek of a new addition to the project. ;)

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/Evo10_GaugeCluster.jpg

2010 evo display?

2010 evo display?

Yes, 2010. My RA is a 2010 as well, so both color displays.

This one, however, is a Evo combo meter. ;)

My RA combo meter looks like this:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/albums/RA_Sportback_032710/RA_SB_032710_05.jpg

Yes, 2010. My RA is a 2010 as well, so both color displays.

This one, however, is a Evo combo meter. ;)

That's what I was referring to, lol

That's what I was referring to, lol

Ah.

Yea. I got a good deal on it and I always thought it would be nice to have the Evo sweep, numbers and higher visual redline.

I just noticed the Evo combo meter has translucent needles where the RA has red needles. :duh:

I wonder if I can swap the needles...

Ah.

Yea. I got a good deal on it and I always thought it would be nice to have the Evo sweep, numbers and higher visual redline.

I just noticed the Evo combo meter has translucent needles where the RA has red needles. :duh:

I wonder if I can swap the needles...

It can be done, it just takes time and determination, lol

Do the 2010 ones work on 2008's? Maybe I could buy your left over one if it would work. I want color!

I think Golden confirmed some time ago that any dash will work with any older / newer model year, it's plug and play. Find one with a similar odo and there is no need for that send in to verify BS. All mileage is in that unit, not on the ecu side.

What is really cool about the 2010+ color displays is that you can show coolant temp along with the other screens, in the 08 version you can't see coolant temp until you cycle to it's own screen.

yeh i have installed a 2011 dash into my 2008/2009...

yeh i have installed a 2011 dash into my 2008/2009...

Is 2011 finally color in Australia?

lol - we just got electricity as well :)

nah 2010 was colour :)

lol - we just got electricity as well :)

nah 2010 was colour :)

I don't think the RA's are color in 2010 in Australia, and even Europe I believe.

I always thought it odd.

Awesome! Just wondering if anyone found the number on the ra fuel pump. I'm planning on doing the evo x swap. I was told I needed to upgrade and was confused.

Sweet build I want to get a Ralliart sportback for a DD and put all my Evo x stock parts on it

ok this is a great build man but i have a few questions?... i am contemplating upgrading my injectors and fuel pump and doing a tune and switching to E85. my questions are could i run 800cc injectors with my stock turbo and on E85 and also what kind of HP numbers do u think i would be looking at if it was a stock RA with the injectors fuel pump and then tuned and on E85?

Yes, you can run upgraded injectors on the stock turbo

nice man!

Update on the car.

I've been chasing an exhaust leak for some months now. Thought it was the gasket from TP-CB since the CB necks down.

Found out this weekend it's from the downpipe as I have a failure somewhere... most likely the flex section.. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:forums.evolutionm.net/get/images/smilies/frown.gif

*sad panda*

Bryan, how did you determine the location of the leak. I'm still trying to find mine...

we use this in the oilfield to test for natural gas leaks on new piping installs. It's like a smoke that you can use at all your joins/unions/welds etc. Would probably do the trick for you for a hard to find exhaust leak. There is probably something similar and cheaper but this is what we use.

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/ProductDetail.do?D7=0&N5=SEARCH_CONCAT_PNO|BRAND_KEY&N4=Z273910|ALDRICH&N25=0&QS=ON&F=SPEC (http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/ProductDetail.do?D7=0&N5=SEARCH_CONCAT_PNO%7CBRAND_KEY&N4=Z273910%7CALDRICH&N25=0&QS=ON&F=SPEC)

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/prodimages/z/z273910.jpg

Bryan, how did you determine the location of the leak. I'm still trying to find mine...

Went to Tahoe this weekend and was warming up my car Saturday morning and saw steam coming out the bottom of my car. So I looked under and it was all coming from up on the downpipe, nowhere close to the flange. :(

Played in the snow the last couple days:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_Tahoe_031912.png

Played in the snow the last couple days:



Bryan you need to come up to Alberta and visit us Canucks. I can tell you obviously aren't afraid of the snow. Keep it in mind, the beer is always cold up here!
I raise you your snowed in RA with mine =D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/pounder/IMG_1671.jpg

Went to Tahoe this weekend and was warming up my car Saturday morning and saw steam coming out the bottom of my car. So I looked under and it was all coming from up on the downpipe, nowhere close to the flange. :(

Is that how you determined it was the flex joint, or are you still trying to lock it down?

Is that how you determined it was the flex joint, or are you still trying to lock it down?

Haven't looked closer yet.

Bryan you need to come up to Alberta and visit us Canucks. I can tell you obviously aren't afraid of the snow. Keep it in mind, the beer is always cold up here!
I raise you your snowed in RA with mine =D



I'll raise you your snow covered RA with my snow covered Evo! ;)

http://bryanmedway.com/thelightneverforgets/albums/random_iphone_photos/012110/012110_02.jpg

I don't see an evo.

I see a grey park bench, but that's it.

Dude Bryan I think you have us beat for snow. I didn't have piles of snow beside my sidewalk that tall ay all this winter...

Dude Bryan I think you have us beat for snow. I didn't have piles of snow beside my sidewalk that tall ay all this winter...

Well, I live at sea level so I see no snow outside my house. Those photos are from the cabin I rent in Lake Tahoe, which is at 6900ft and 3 hours away from my house. :)

Well, I live at sea level so I see no snow outside my house. Those photos are from the cabin I rent in Lake Tahoe, which is at 6900ft and 3 hours away from my house. :)

Party at your house for us Canadians? Also when are you gonna post some more updated Dyno sheets and pics of your ra?

Played in the snow the last couple days:

http://norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/2010_RA_Sportback/RA_Tahoe_031912.png

Are you still rockin' the DWSs?

Are you still rockin' the DWSs?


Yup