: Anyone know what kind of HP increase from Cobb's Stage 2 E85 maps?


koach
04-02-2010, 01:15 PM
They list HP gain for all of their maps except the E85 ones. Also does anyone know if the map can be run year round if your area uses E70 in the winter?

Thanks.

saytheb
04-02-2010, 03:19 PM
I use a more aggressive(more timing, more boost, stronger mivec) version of their map with E70 in Colorado.. no problems!

I gained roughly 35whp/50wtq from their map from where I was originally (modified 91 octane) but YMMV

SkyFlakes
04-02-2010, 03:31 PM
I will come back and update you when I get result..

koach
04-02-2010, 04:32 PM
I use a more aggressive(more timing, more boost, stronger mivec) version of their map with E70 in Colorado.. no problems!

I gained roughly 35whp/50wtq from their map from where I was originally (modified 91 octane) but YMMV

That's good to hear.

Just to be clear, are you saying you gained 35whp/50wtq over a stock car, or over a previous non-E85 (stage 1 or stage 2?) 91 map, or over their E85 OTS map?


I will come back and update you when I get result..

ETA?

SkyFlakes
04-02-2010, 04:44 PM
That's good to hear.

Just to be clear, are you saying you gained 35whp/50wtq over a stock car, or over a previous non-E85 (stage 1 or stage 2?) 91 map, or over their E85 OTS map?




ETA?

tonight hopefully!

saytheb
04-02-2010, 04:49 PM
That's good to hear.

Just to be clear, are you saying you gained 35whp/50wtq over a stock car, or over a previous non-E85 (stage 1 or stage 2?) 91 map, or over their E85 OTS map?




ETA?

Over a previous none E85 Stage 2 91 octane modified COBB OTS map

koach
04-02-2010, 06:34 PM
Over a previous none E85 Stage 2 91 octane modified COBB OTS map

Nice. And that stage 2 is about 50-60 or so above stock right?

saytheb
04-02-2010, 07:02 PM
Nice. And that stage 2 is about 50-60 or so above stock right?

I never got a baseline.. so I am not sure. Felt a heck of a lot better though!

SkyFlakes
04-03-2010, 12:23 AM
here you go as promised... but don't be discourage my car has problems!

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29434

kmart888
04-03-2010, 06:06 PM
AP OTS Stage 2 map:
CA91 = 316.3hp/298.8 ft-lb
E85 = 347.9hp/367.7 ft-lb

Custom tune, same car:
CA91 = 336.3hp/324.4 ft-lb
E85 = 370.4hp/392.3 ft-lb

The E85 #'s were on a Dynapack so I expect the torque figures are high but the HP #'s are comparable

koach
04-03-2010, 09:03 PM
AP OTS Stage 2 map:
CA91 = 316.3hp/298.8 ft-lb
E85 = 347.9hp/367.7 ft-lb

Custom tune, same car:
CA91 = 336.3hp/324.4 ft-lb
E85 = 370.4hp/392.3 ft-lb

The E85 #'s were on a Dynapack so I expect the torque figures are high but the HP #'s are comparable

Nice numbers, surprised the custom tune had that much more in it. But that could be accounted for because they were different dynos. did you get a baseline hp/tq number?

mlomker
04-03-2010, 09:42 PM
The E85 #'s were on a Dynapack so I expect the torque figures are high but the HP #'s are comparable

I dunno...they don't look that high to me, assuming your car has most bolt-ons. TQ is normally higher for E85 just like the numbers in my sig.

on2it
04-03-2010, 11:32 PM
Nice numbers, surprised the custom tune had that much more in it. But that could be accounted for because they were different dynos. did you get a baseline hp/tq number?

custom tunes almost always get better numbers than OTS maps.

Good numbers Kmart..

koach
04-03-2010, 11:34 PM
custom tunes almost always get better numbers than OTS maps.

Good numbers Kmart..

I understand that, but I have seen a lot of threads where people got custom tunes for their AP from Cobb or AMS or others and the gain was like 5-10whp max HP, albeit with a greater increase in the lower RPM band. I've never seen such gains for max HP from OTS to custom.

kmart888
04-04-2010, 04:07 PM
Nice numbers, surprised the custom tune had that much more in it. But that could be accounted for because they were different dynos. did you get a baseline hp/tq number?The comparison between cobb OTS and custom tune were on the same dyno for the respective fuel. By baseline do you mean factory tune? I would have to go back to stock before the TBE; about 255hp before any mods.

kmart888
04-04-2010, 05:22 PM
I understand that, but I have seen a lot of threads where people got custom tunes for their AP from Cobb or AMS or others and the gain was like 5-10whp max HP, albeit with a greater increase in the lower RPM band. I've never seen such gains for max HP from OTS to custom.
I am dependant on the tuner(s) (different tuners for CA91 and E85) to provide an accurate reflection of the numbers the car got when brought in with the Cobb OTS map vs. the final custom tune. I shall take it to the 1/8 mi drag strip, maybe this Thursday (I'm not a drag racer but it is fun!) and compare the real world acceleration of the OTS E85 map as compared to the custom E85 map.