: RWD Hyundai Tiburon!


Kooldino
07-31-2007, 10:10 PM
Awesome. This car will be a tuner favorite:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/07/hyundaitiburonreplacement.jpg

We've had rumors (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/26/hyundais-new-rwd-coupe-to-get-v6-power/) and spy shots (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/10/spy-shots-hyundais-rwd-coupe/) before, but up until now we really didn't have any confirmation that Hyundai's new Tiburon replacement would switch from a pull-me to a push-me. With the new rwd platform that the company recently developed for its Genesis luxury sedan, it was expected that the next generation of affordable sports car from Korea would ditch its fwd layout and get some true sports car manners. Well, Hyundai just confirmed that when that car shows up in late 2008 or early 2009, it will indeed be rear-wheel drive.

As predicted, the car will share its rwd platform with the already-announced Genesis sedan, which we should see in about a year. The Tiburon replacement should show up half a year to a year after the sedan, and might even come as a convertible. In fact, there is also a suggestion that we'll be seeing several models based on this platform. We're not sure if the coupe will share the sedan's new V8 in addition to the expected V6, but it would make an interesting competitor for the Mustang if it did. Hyundai has officially said no, but there are still whispers, and if not a V8, some kind of boosted V6 in the top models might suffice.


http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/30/confirmed-hyundai-making-tiburon-replacement-rwd/

Kansei
08-01-2007, 06:47 PM
It has been rumoured for yeeears that the next one was going to be RWD.. then came the rumours that it would be made into a turbo i4 and sold as a kia, and Hyundai would introduce a v6 or v8 rwd car (350z competitor) but under a new model name.

Tiburon + rwd = ftw. Depending on the styling (hyundai goes from awesome (97 tib) to ghastly (2000-1 tib) to awesome (2003-2004 tib) to just plain gross (2007 tib) far too often. Luckily, by that pattern, this new model should be awesome. Hopefully they can get the weight down though it isn't very likely :( the current tib is already 3k pounds with an all-aluminum v6 and a small fwd chassis. Add in standard 6 airbags, rwd, v8.. yuck.

If it was under 3100 pounds I think I could deal if I could get me some afforable rwd with independent, sporty suspension.

this is exciting, I'm glad it's finally confirmed since those spy shots appeared on the web 3 months ago.

I like the turbo 4 from the test mule..
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/bk12_902.jpg

to me, a turbo 4 means it isn't going to be that heavy of a car :)

the interior looks quite cool too: http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/bk14_165.jpg

everything I've read has said no turbo for the US market though.. or at least has said v6 in the base model.. maybe 230hp base model (3.3 from the Sonata) and 270+hp very turbo i4 sport model?
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/anational1178761434.jpg

p.s. the simplicity of intercooler piping on rwd cars makes me sick inside

Kooldino
08-01-2007, 11:49 PM
It has been rumoured for yeeears that the next one was going to be RWD..

Yup.

then came the rumours that it would be made into a turbo i4 and sold as a kia, and Hyundai would introduce a v6 or v8 rwd car (350z competitor) but under a new model name.

whoa whoa whoa...are kia and hyundai related, other than the fact that they're both korean?

Tiburon + rwd = ftw. Depending on the styling (hyundai goes from awesome (97 tib) to ghastly (2000-1 tib) to awesome (2003-2004 tib) to just plain gross (2007 tib) far too often. Luckily, by that pattern, this new model should be awesome. Hopefully they can get the weight down though it isn't very likely :( the current tib is already 3k pounds with an all-aluminum v6 and a small fwd chassis. Add in standard 6 airbags, rwd, v8.. yuck.

3K isn't bad at all.

If it was under 3100 pounds I think I could deal if I could get me some afforable rwd with independent, sporty suspension.

this is exciting, I'm glad it's finally confirmed since those spy shots appeared on the web 3 months ago.

I like the turbo 4 from the test mule..

[quote]
the interior looks quite cool too:


Hopefully it FEELS nice too. Hyundai tends to use cheap plastics that feel like junk.

everything I've read has said no turbo for the US market though.. or at least has said v6 in the base model.. maybe 230hp base model (3.3 from the Sonata) and 270+hp very turbo i4 sport model?

I thought the Sonata had a ~265hp V6?

p.s. the simplicity of intercooler piping on rwd cars makes me sick inside

No, that's just hunger pains.

Kansei
08-02-2007, 01:10 AM
Yes, hyundai and kia are one in the same.. they weren't always though.

http://car-reviews.automobile.com/images/cars/ArtImages/59184/alt.jpg

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/02/12/210431.1-lg.jpg

there's the only model duplicate between the brands.

also the Accent and Rio are on the same platform as of the current generation, the Optima and Sonata are on the same chassis (though the Optima V6 is the 2.7 from the Tib (170hp)), and lots of parts are shared all around. It's no badge engineering like GM, but they are 'together'

And the Sonata has a 3.3 with ~235hp

silvreclipse
08-02-2007, 03:53 AM
i had a tib for 6weeks they just pain sucked imo.i think huinday is way overdo for a fast competitor car.the tibs have always been the underdogjust like the eclipse withe the 420a.

Kooldino
08-02-2007, 04:13 AM
Yes, hyundai and kia are one in the same.. they weren't always though.

http://car-reviews.automobile.com/images/cars/ArtImages/59184/alt.jpg

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/02/12/210431.1-lg.jpg

there's the only model duplicate between the brands.

also the Accent and Rio are on the same platform as of the current generation, the Optima and Sonata are on the same chassis (though the Optima V6 is the 2.7 from the Tib (170hp)), and lots of parts are shared all around. It's no badge engineering like GM, but they are 'together'

And the Sonata has a 3.3 with ~235hp

When did they "merge"?

And why are Hyundais so much more reliable than Kias?

Kooldino
08-02-2007, 04:15 AM
i had a tib for 6weeks they just pain sucked imo.i think huinday is way overdo for a fast competitor car.the tibs have always been the underdogjust like the eclipse withe the 420a.

Yeah, but at least the eclipse had higher end models featuring the 4g63.

This car is just what hyundai needs to break through into new markets.

Kansei
08-02-2007, 01:27 PM
i had a tib for 6weeks they just pain sucked imo.i think huinday is way overdo for a fast competitor car.the tibs have always been the underdogjust like the eclipse withe the 420a.

No doubt the tib with the 2.7 170hp engine isn't very fast, but you can easily get it from the 145-150whp it has stock to 180whp with just intake, header, midpipe, exhaust. Plus the PLETHORA of great supercharger kits available for that engine.

I might be biased though, my best friend back home has an 04 Tib in yellow that is over 260whp and totally daily driveable, comfortable, etc. Yeah the interior plastics aren't perfect but it isn't like they are General Motors bad, and plus you do need to compromise somewhere to sell a fully loaded tib for like 20k

silvreclipse
08-02-2007, 05:17 PM
Yeah, but at least the eclipse had higher end models featuring the 4g63.

This car is just what hyundai needs to break through into new markets.

true but they just stop putting them in the eclipse through 99 kept it in some models though.in the later years. and yeah why are the huindays more relaible then kias.also how much money would you have to spent before you have some decent amount power.i know the concept of spending to make power but if they are going to compete in the automarket why not bring something that can be at that level of other manufacturer models.

Kansei
08-02-2007, 05:33 PM
If you drop 2500 on a V6 tiburon you can be at ~220 whp, totally tolerable daily driver

silvreclipse
08-02-2007, 05:44 PM
so i've been reading that the tib may not keep the name.whats that about.theres some sitesthat state this i think its hogwash.what enigne is going to be in it some sites say a 3.8 300hp

Kansei
08-02-2007, 05:48 PM
so i've been reading that the tib may not keep the name.whats that about.theres some sitesthat state this i think its hogwash.what enigne is going to be in it some sites say a 3.8 300hp

It wouldn't take much to get the 3.8 v6 to 300hp, it's already 270something isn't it? and that's on the azera where it was all about being quiet, on the tib (or whatever they name a future coupe thing) they could have a louder intake and a bit less quiet of an exhaust... plus they could require premium fuel if the azera doesn't already.

As for dropping the tiburon name.. yeah, I've heard a lot about that over the years as well. If you make it too big and heavy PLUS rwd you're kinda straying from the formula of the previous tiburon generations a bit much.

silvreclipse
08-02-2007, 06:01 PM
i would not doubt if it could make past 400 with the right parts.but yeah once the line changes from time to time its a replacement of a car instead of a newer model of the same car.it will not fall under the same class anymore.i wonder what the retail is going to be on them as if they are not volume cars.

Kooldino
08-02-2007, 06:05 PM
so i've been reading that the tib may not keep the name.whats that about.theres some sitesthat state this i think its hogwash.what enigne is going to be in it some sites say a 3.8 300hp

Where did you hear about the possible name change?

I'd be suprised if it was 300hp. But I'm expecting 250hp or better at this point.

silvreclipse
08-02-2007, 09:14 PM
i'll look it up again i saw that like a month ago.they did not mention what the new name if any would be.but it was stated that the name may change.

Kooldino
08-02-2007, 09:15 PM
Gotcha

silvreclipse
08-03-2007, 04:04 AM
ok so that page was taken down for some reason.might of been a claim or something.i'll keep looking for one with this info.

Liquid_Ag
08-03-2007, 01:55 PM
i almost bought a tib. they are nice cars, easy to mod and sound nice. rwd would make this a definate competitor for my next car

Kansei
08-03-2007, 02:10 PM
i almost bought a tib. they are nice cars, easy to mod and sound nice. rwd would make this a definate competitor for my next car

Tiburon stock = pretty nice sound.
Tiburon + tanabe cat-back exhaust = melon shooter mufflers + really nice sound
Tiburon + tanabe cat-back + headers = zomg that growl!!!
Tiburon + tanabe cat-back + headers + catted midpipe = ok this is getting a little ridiculously loud but sounds so good.
tiburon + tanabe cat-back + headers + catted midpipe + stage 2 Alpine supercharger = *sploodge*

edit: loud supercharger whine that can overpower all that exhaust work is AMAZING. it sounds incredible.. go on youtube or google video and watch vids of supercharged tibs, there's a whole lot of awesome car noise pr0n lol

Liquid_Ag
08-03-2007, 02:33 PM
i know. i often wake up kicking myself for not buying one :(

k-lea
08-03-2007, 02:38 PM
GTO + Supercharger = OMGWTFWHATTHAT?!

Rosshole
08-03-2007, 02:38 PM
this is something that I would consider for my next whip

What kind of price range?

k-lea
08-03-2007, 02:38 PM
25ish?

Rosshole
08-03-2007, 02:41 PM
that could work.

Kooldino
08-03-2007, 03:11 PM
Tiburon stock = pretty nice sound.
Tiburon + tanabe cat-back exhaust = melon shooter mufflers + really nice sound
Tiburon + tanabe cat-back + headers = zomg that growl!!!
Tiburon + tanabe cat-back + headers + catted midpipe = ok this is getting a little ridiculously loud but sounds so good.
tiburon + tanabe cat-back + headers + catted midpipe + stage 2 Alpine supercharger = *sploodge*

edit: loud supercharger whine that can overpower all that exhaust work is AMAZING. it sounds incredible.. go on youtube or google video and watch vids of supercharged tibs, there's a whole lot of awesome car noise pr0n lol


I can't stand supercharger whine. :(

It reminds me too much of kristin.

Liquid_Ag
08-03-2007, 03:13 PM
burn!

k-lea
08-03-2007, 03:15 PM
I can't stand supercharger whine. :(

It reminds me too much of kristin.

Atleast I don't sound like a turkey.






...I have nothing...

Kooldino
08-03-2007, 03:29 PM
Yeah...neither does my car. I don't have the MSP turbo setup. :-P

Of course you'd have known that had you made it to Carlisle.
:thinkbubble:

Rosshole
08-03-2007, 03:30 PM
I can't stand supercharger whine. :(

It reminds me too much of kristin.

:ohsnap:

k-lea
08-03-2007, 03:32 PM
Yeah...neither does my car. I don't have the MSP turbo setup. :-P

Of course you'd have known that had you made it to Carlisle.
:thinkbubble:

I had my reasons..

silvreclipse
08-03-2007, 11:55 PM
I can't stand supercharger whine. :(

It reminds me too much of kristin.

haha i actually love the sound of the supercharger.especially on the classic muscle cars.

Kansei
08-06-2007, 01:22 AM
http://www.windingroad.com/images/issue_21/300x250/21-genesis_04.jpg

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 02:04 AM
are you serious?

Kooldino
08-06-2007, 03:21 AM
That's not bad. The "cheekbones" are a little high, but it looks sharp overall.

Kansei
08-06-2007, 04:10 AM
That's not bad. The "cheekbones" are a little high, but it looks sharp overall.

That's one of the only things to stay constant throughout all tiburon models.. the original ones had it, the weird lookin ones had it, the 03+ have it (well at least in the sense that there's a significant bulge that you can see from inside the car)

I think it looks excellent, and I really like the grille shape, it's a little unique which is what hyundai needs.. something unique to plaster across all their cars so that they are at least a little bit recognizable as one family of vehicles.

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 01:43 PM
and it looks better than when suby did it. thats a HOT car

Kansei
08-06-2007, 01:47 PM
and it looks better than when suby did it. thats a HOT car

That's definitely a "omg mazda please come out with an mx-6 rwd on an extended mx-5 chassis so I don't have to buy a hyundai" car..

not that there's anything wrong with hyundai but I love the driving feel of Mazdas too much..

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 02:20 PM
heh or omg chevrolet please dont make the new camaro gay

Kansei
08-06-2007, 02:29 PM
heh or omg chevrolet please dont make the new camaro gay

Well you know how I feel about the transmarobird... they can give it all the power in the world but I guarantee it'll have shit steering feel, a chassis like butter, and subpar handling (though it's going fully independent, which is impressive for an American!)

edit: plus no need to even mention the reliability of a chevy v8, because well the engine is only a small piece of the equation and if I wanted reliability Chevy is the last place I'd look.

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 02:51 PM
10 bux chevy v8 more reliable than fsde ;) i just want a fast car. a fast car thats cheap to make faster.

Kansei
08-06-2007, 02:54 PM
buy a mustang gt?

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 03:01 PM
http://dcglobal.webmakerx.net/DCImages/DealerImages/2007%20Mustang%20GT(1).jpg < http://www.rawhorsepower.com/chevrolet-camaro-concept-2009.jpg

Kansei
08-06-2007, 03:17 PM
you picked a bad example mustang and a concept camaro photo.. congrats :P

the Mustang GT can be made to look quite nice http://firsttraderegistry.com/forsale/8_06/07mustang/2007%20mustang%20black%20014.jpg

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 03:32 PM
thats a shelby gt500. a little outof my pricerange

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 03:35 PM
and htats a mustang gt. thats what most of them look like

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 03:36 PM
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/2009_camaro.jpg

Rosshole
08-06-2007, 03:43 PM
yeah, but I have test drove a couple tiburons in the past and they felt heavy for a small car and sloppy in the handling dept.

Kansei
08-06-2007, 03:43 PM
still just concept photos.. I don't care if it's a working model or not. I doubt those mirrors would be legal in the u.s., no matter how cool they look. aside from the fact that they'd poke people's eyes out, I doubt you can see anything through them.

Kansei
08-06-2007, 03:44 PM
yeah, but I have test drove a couple tiburons in the past and they felt heavy for a small car and sloppy in the handling dept.

The current model does feel sloppy and heavy.. it's over 3000 pounds

Rosshole
08-06-2007, 04:14 PM
still just concept photos.. I don't care if it's a working model or not. I doubt those mirrors would be legal in the u.s., no matter how cool they look. aside from the fact that they'd poke people's eyes out, I doubt you can see anything through them.

+1

concept to production = entirely different car.

Kansei
08-06-2007, 04:27 PM
+1

concept to production = entirely different car.

concept to production = remove all metal bits from interior, replace with chevy cobalt parts

Kooldino
08-06-2007, 04:53 PM
The current model does feel sloppy and heavy.. it's over 3000 pounds

That's why I don't date plus sized models.

But to each his own.

Kooldino
08-06-2007, 04:53 PM
concept to production = remove all metal bits from interior, replace with chevy cobalt parts

lol

Rosshole
08-06-2007, 05:10 PM
gotta love the general!

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 10:51 PM
i said wed see. but if it looks close enough to that, im jumping from the mazda boat. in a heart beat. weve all seen what hte mazda boat does anyways :

http://www.pacificenvironment.org/img/original/listed%20ship%20copy.jpg

Kooldino
08-06-2007, 10:52 PM
:ohsnap:

Liquid_Ag
08-06-2007, 10:55 PM
holla