On the Mitsubishi web site

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/media/evoinsider/08EvoBrochure1.pdf

Yeah this is pretty cool. My salesmen gave me one of these brochures when I bought got my X. :thumbup:

Interesting, MR gets "phantom black" trim for the interior. Perhaps a upgrade in the material used?

Nice. Stickied at the EVO X Generial section.

It lists "under floor air guide" under accessories.

what is that?

It lists "under floor air guide" under accessories.

what is that?

It's an accessory. Per Mitsubishi - "Redirects airflow from the front of the vehicle to the sides; helps downforce aerodynamics to keep your customer's Evo hugging the road."

They are basically two curved plastic vanes that go under the car on each side and force air out the side.

pretty :ghey: in my opinion

Ask your salesman for a copy of the December issue of Accelerator (the Mitsubishi Parts & Service mag) and you can see that and all the other accessories.

The MR has better brakes, better suspension, better interior, more features "such as bluetooth", SST.... basically what this is saying is that all you guys who bought the GSR will be kicking yourselves for not waiting. :godance::godance::godance::godance::godance::godance::godance::godance::wackoff ::wackoff::wackoff::wackoff::wackoff::computermad::computermad::computermad::com putermad:

lol... and the relevance to this topic is?

lol... and the relevance to this topic is?

:rock::rock::rock::rock:Read the brochure, the MR gets allll the above and beyond stuff. Somebody needed to stir the pot! Give me a few weeks and I will have all the MR owners at war with all the GSR owners. :rock::rock::rock::rock:

i dont know, most of the things in the mr version, will mostly be changed out for af parts, like the brakes, coilovers, etc, so is the mr worth it, not really

And c'mon, how can you get a car like that without a clutch?!

i dont know, most of the things in the mr version, will mostly be changed out for af parts, like the brakes, coilovers, etc, so is the mr worth it, not really

Why would you change out your brakes on the MR??? You would spend thousands and get just a little bit better performance. The reason most people are getting the MR is for that SST and the reason that it comes good to go for the track straight from the factory. Replacing some of the parts on the MR for a marginal performance gain would be a pointless waste of money. But if that's your thing go for it. :thumbup:

And c'mon, how can you get a car like that without a clutch?!

Ask that same question to a formula 1 driver.

:rock::rock::rock::rock:Read the brochure, the MR gets allll the above and beyond stuff. Somebody needed to stir the pot! Give me a few weeks and I will have all the MR owners at war with all the GSR owners. :rock::rock::rock::rock:
Lets keep the peace in these forums:)

Ask that same question to a formula 1 driver.
F1 Driver vs Daily Driver = HUUUUGE Difference, most DD's dont have to worry about taking turns at 150+ mph lmao

F1 Driver vs Daily Driver = HUUUUGE Difference, most DD's dont have to worry about taking turns at 150+ mph lmao

Rgory.... i may have to destroy you.
http://www.kenstillson.com/ken/pics/funnies/Kitty_cat_stickup.jpg

If I want the normal daily driver I would chop my nuts off and buy a prius, But I'm not, I hit the tracks as much as possible and the MR is the perfect combination right from the factory. I can drive the car to work and right when 5 oclock comes around, right to the track. Are you telling me you think the SST is over kill? Doesn't the SST make for an even easier daily driver being that I don't have to shift? In my opinion, the MR is well rounded in every aspect. If you just gottttta have a 3rd pedal then you just gotta have it.

If I want the normal daily driver I would chop my nuts off and buy a prius, But I'm not, I hit the tracks as much as possible and the MR is the perfect combination right from the factory. I can drive the car to work and right when 5 oclock comes around, right to the track. Are you telling me you think the SST is over kill? Doesn't the SST make for an even easier daily driver being that I don't have to shift? In my opinion, the MR is well rounded in every aspect. If you just gottttta have a 3rd pedal then you just gotta have it.
Seems like an oxymoron to me lol

I duno man, I mean sure you may get quicker shifts in the MR but the GSR takes more skill than just pushing a button and when you can master that skill you get a lot more credit in my book. So seeing how the Evo X ISN'T and F1 car i feel like the 5MT fits it better, but thats just my opinion

Also I'm not saying it doesn't take skill to race with the MR, I'm only referring to the shifts.

Also I'm not saying it doesn't take skill to race with the MR, I'm only referring to the shifts.

once again... say that to a F1 car driver.... This is more of a argument of whats "cooler" not what makes the better performer. Go ahead and be fast and furious. But there is a reason that top end cars "lambo, Ferrari, Bugatti" use trannies like this... The last 6 cars I owned were all manuals, if I didn't think this would be better than a manual I wouldn't buy it. But then again, everyone's def of "better" will be different.
All I am saying is, Suck it GSR! :jk:

Truth is manual is more engaging and DCT if you want the fastest lap. Just personal reference after all.

Truth is manual is more engaging and DCT if you want the fastest lap. Just personal reference after all.

Exactly, it's more "engaging" You are more involved in the working of the car. Been there, done that, I want to try something new... and besides, the MR comes with upgraded everryttthing over the GSR.

Sean connery will say it all for me:
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once again... say that to a F1 car driver.... This is more of a argument of whats "cooler" not what makes the better performer. Go ahead and be fast and furious. But there is a reason that top end cars "lambo, Ferrari, Bugatti" use trannies like this... The last 6 cars I owned were all manuals, if I didn't think this would be better than a manual I wouldn't buy it. But then again, everyone's def of "better" will be different.
All I am saying is, Suck it GSR! :jk:
New flash its not an F1 race car:) lol
I duno man, I don't think its about the "coolness" but more about fun, clutching = fun, more to do = harder to race = better overall driver. I can't remember who it was but one guy that was doing a review that drove it said that he wasn't a good driver by any means and he could drive it like a pro. Lots of reviews have said the SST makes you look like your a better driver than you really are. I would rather be doing more work than the computers in my car, or at least at little bit more work than in the MR. But we are all entitled to opinions and thats mine. Again don't get me wrong I would take either of them any day and I have mad respect for the MR, I would even consider buying one over a GSR just because the fact that I don't go racing everyday and it would be my DD car so with that said I would prefer the SST for that reason. But when I wana gun it or to it to a track I would like to be in a manual:)

New flash its not an F1 race car:) lol
I duno man, I don't think its about the "coolness" but more about fun, clutching = fun, more to do = harder to race = better overall driver. I can't remember who it was but one guy that was doing a review that drove it said that he wasn't a good driver by any means and he could drive it like a pro. Lots of reviews have said the SST makes you look like your a better driver than you really are. I would rather be doing more work than the computers in my car, or at least at little bit more work than in the MR. But we are all entitled to opinions and thats mine. Again don't get me wrong I would take either of them any day and I have mad respect for the MR, I would even consider buying one over a GSR just because the fact that I don't go racing everyday and it would be my DD car so with that said I would prefer the SST for that reason. But when I wana gun it or to it to a track I would like to be in a manual:)

Are you seriously saying that an F1 driver is worse because he doesn't use a manual????? Good gosh..... a driver's ability is made from experience and skill, not what kind of tranny he uses. Please, grow up!!! I'm just trying to keep it to the facts, nooo opinions here please!!! The SST is merely a tool that allows you to keep both hands on the wheel and not need a knee replacement by age 35. I just don't see any admissible advantages to the 5spd manual over the 6spd SST. With the SST you can upshift and downshift in .6 seconds with both hands on the wheel! It removes any human error, it allows almost complete focus to the turns... I thought simplicity makes things quicker, when I remove the variable of clutch work, the vehicle becomes more efficient.

I'm a clutch kinda chick .. GSR is where it's at for me!

I'm a clutch kinda chick .. GSR is where it's at for me!

Just shut up and watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yioJQFrqMXM&eurl=http://www.facebook.com/inbox/readmessage.php?t=10616233932&mbox_pos=0

=P It's nice to see a lady in a forum full of sausage. :amen:

once again... say that to a F1 car driver.... This is more of a argument of whats "cooler" not what makes the better performer. Go ahead and be fast and furious. But there is a reason that top end cars "lambo, Ferrari, Bugatti" use trannies like this... The last 6 cars I owned were all manuals, if I didn't think this would be better than a manual I wouldn't buy it. But then again, everyone's def of "better" will be different.
All I am saying is, Suck it GSR! :jk:
top end huh? , those are Exoctic sport cars LUX sports carst hat dont have a clutch those are EXOTIC HIGH END CARS..
Ever heard of a Noble? or Lotus or TVR or Koenigsegg CCXR or Panoz or Saleen,<<<these are all true fast racing sports cars with a clutch and most of these cars are faster then a ferrari

top end huh? , those are Exoctic sport cars LUX sports carst hat dont have a clutch those are EXOTIC HIGH END CARS..
Ever heard of a Noble? or Lotus or TVR or Koenigsegg CCXR or Panoz or Saleen,<<<these are all true fast racing sports cars with a clutch and most of these cars are faster then a ferrari

How can you say that... BUGATTI VEYRON
http://voip-blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/uploads/bugatti-veyron-big.jpg
Need I say more?

And once again, what is faster than the cars you mentioned? F1 cars and their entire soullll purpose is for racing and racing alone.

what do you drive?

Are you seriously saying that an F1 driver is worse because he doesn't use a manual????? Good gosh..... a driver's ability is made from experience and skill, not what kind of tranny he uses. Please, grow up!!! I'm just trying to keep it to the facts, nooo opinions here please!!! The SST is merely a tool that allows you to keep both hands on the wheel and not need a knee replacement by age 35. I just don't see any admissible advantages to the 5spd manual over the 6spd SST. With the SST you can upshift and downshift in .6 seconds with both hands on the wheel! It removes any human error, it allows almost complete focus to the turns... I thought simplicity makes things quicker, when I remove the variable of clutch work, the vehicle becomes more efficient.

Dude your being kind of ignorant here, I'm not trying to offend you and why is what you say is magically a fact? You don't seem to be getting the idea that your not driving an F1 Race car. They are accelerating and taking corners wayyy to fast to be driving a stick, and there isn't even any room in there for one. It's an EVO not an F1 race car, not a lambo not a ferrari, not a bugatti an EVO you have more than enough time and room to shift vs an F1 car where you don't. Human error is what leaves room for improvement, you cant fuck up on pulling a paddle, you can with a MT which means when you can execute it perfectly you are a better driver than before. I'm not even saying that because you drive the MR your a bad driver, all I'm saying is that it is more difficult to drive a MT and you have to have more respect for those doing something more difficult. Like lets say you beat like guitar hero or some shit on easy...big whoop...you beat it on expert, thats more impression than easy, is it not? Your totally misunderstanding what I am saying. Can someone back me up on this?

You guys should just agree to disagree.

Some people can't live without the 3rd petal, while other prefers a car without it. It all boils down to preference. A "true" sport car shouldn't be define by the kind of transmission it has, I consider the veyron as a sport car because it is fucking fast, not because it has a DCT gear box. And cars like Koenigsegg CCXR that doesn't have DCT gear box doesn't mean it is any less of a sport car compared to Veyron.

The reason F1 cars has semi-automatic transmission is because humans can not possibly shift fast enough to match the F1 car speed. That is it. And like what I have said before, people get stick because they want to engage with the car more, while people get DCT because they want to go around the track as fast as possible, or they live in a heavy traffic area.

New flash its not an F1 race car:) lol
I duno man, I don't think its about the "coolness" but more about fun, clutching = fun, more to do = harder to race = better overall driver. I can't remember who it was but one guy that was doing a review that drove it said that he wasn't a good driver by any means and he could drive it like a pro. Lots of reviews have said the SST makes you look like your a better driver than you really are. I would rather be doing more work than the computers in my car, or at least at little bit more work than in the MR. But we are all entitled to opinions and thats mine. Again don't get me wrong I would take either of them any day and I have mad respect for the MR, I would even consider buying one over a GSR just because the fact that I don't go racing everyday and it would be my DD car so with that said I would prefer the SST for that reason. But when I wana gun it or to it to a track I would like to be in a manual:)

Now apply that to the same said skilled driver of the three clutch brand. LOL

Seriously if you want a more engaging car use your left foot for the brake that is a driving technique and an important track one as much as shifting correctly....The SST just allows for greater concentration over a manual...

It all boils down to preference though really... I like Manuals they're fun...but twin clutch automated manuals are the future. The X is not an F1 car but it still a car that can be quite competitive with cars 3 times its price. and now that the SST will remove driver inconsistencies its only faster.

what do you drive?

I drive this car

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v64/113/105/1125060400/n1125060400_30077067_1712.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v64/113/105/1125060400/n1125060400_30077069_2355.jpg

Yes, It's a six speed twin turbo S4!!!!!!! Sex, really. Just pure sex. I've driven manuals all my life. I know how to drive them, i've been to several performance schools and classes. I just want the next level, and if SST is the future, if SST is what the big dogs are using, then I will embrace it!

You guys should just agree to disagree.

Some people can't live without the 3rd petal, while other prefers a car without it. It all boils down to preference. A "true" sport car shouldn't be define by the kind of transmission it has, I consider the veyron as a sport car because it is fucking fast, not because it has a DCT gear box. And cars like Koenigsegg CCXR that doesn't have DCT gear box doesn't mean it is any less of a sport car compared to Veyron.

The reason F1 cars has semi-automatic transmission is because humans can not possibly shift fast enough to match the F1 car speed. That is it. And like what I have said before, people get stick because they want to engage with the car more, while people get DCT because they want to go around the track as fast as possible, or they live in a heavy traffic area.

Agreed agreed!!! I will agree to disagree!!! I can understand that the SST might be "overkill" for a slower car like an evo, but never the less it just gives you one up in my opinion on the other cars in its class and range on the track and in traffic.

Nice car voodooman79, how many horsey are hiding under that hood?

EdiT: OH SNAP, I AM OVER 1000 POST AT LAST

SST = faster lap times... but boring.

I got a friend to translate the Best Motoring Video during the 08 EVOs and 08 STI track battle.

The driver of the SST says yes it shifts fast and is too easy to drive. He said he was very BORED driving the car. Just gas and brake.

I have to agree... If was a paid race car driver were tenths of a second count I would want the SST. But for track I'll give up a few tenths so I can have a more engaging time with my car. Nothing like rowing thru the gears down the straight and heel & toe down to the first turn FTW!

BTW my previous car was a B5 Audi S4 as well... love that car! Now that was a car that truly combined luxury with tuneable performance. EVOs and STI have step it up but still now were near Audis and BMWs luxury. Would of kept it if I didn't run into some many mechanical problems.

SST = faster lap times... but boring.

I got a friend to translate the Best Motoring Video during the 08 EVOs and 08 STI track battle.

The driver of the SST says yes it shifts fast and is too easy to drive. He said he was very BORED driving the car. Just gas and brake.

I have to agree... If was a paid race car driver were tenths of a second count I would want the SST. But for track I'll give up a few tenths so I can have a more engaging time with my car. Nothing like rowing thru the gears down the straight and heel & toe down to the first turn FTW!

BTW my previous car was a B5 Audi S4 as well... love that car! Now that was a car that truly combined luxury with tuneable performance. EVOs and STI have step it up but still now were near Audis and BMWs luxury. Would of kept it if I didn't run into some many mechanical problems.

This boils down to opinion and what you want... would you like faster lap times or a more engaging experience?

I love the S4, but shes gotta go! Shes up there in age and i'm sickkkk of replacing parts.

This boils down to opinion and what you want... would you like faster lap times or a more engaging experience?

I love the S4, but shes gotta go! Shes up there in age and i'm sickkkk of replacing parts.
:bowlol: thats exactly what I said before, its just an opinion, everyone has one.

:bowlol: thats exactly what I said before, its just an opinion, everyone has one.

No, you said a "better" driver would get a manual. And thats why I argued with you.

"in my book"

"but thats just my opinion"

New flash its not an F1 race car:) lol
"I don't think"

"But we are all entitled to opinions and thats mine."
Clearly I stated it was just my opinion of this hahah

I drive this car

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v64/113/105/1125060400/n1125060400_30077067_1712.jpg

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Yes, It's a six speed twin turbo S4!!!!!!! Sex, really. Just pure sex. I've driven manuals all my life. I know how to drive them, i've been to several performance schools and classes. I just want the next level, and if SST is the future, if SST is what the big dogs are using, then I will embrace it!


All this love for the MR and hate for the GSR .. yet there is no MR parked in your driveway .. just an .. s4.

All this love for the MR and hate for the GSR .. yet there is no MR parked in your driveway .. just an .. s4.

.... =(.... don't make me cry. I preordered my MR... just counting down the days so I can make sweet love to her. :godance:

I declare VooDooMan the winner of this one. BoyBeater got BEATEN!! :shades:

I declare VooDooMan the winner of this one. BoyBeater got BEATEN!! :shades:

Agreed, Thank you sir. :amen:

From Motivemagazine.com - http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature/first_steer/Motive_First_Drive_2008_Mitsubishi_Lancer_Evolution.shtml

"The primary difference between the GSR and MR models is one that enthusiasts are most likely to struggle with. The GSR is only offered with a five-speed manual and doesn't include the BBS wheels, two-piece rotors, Bilstein struts, Eibach springs, or the great Recaro seats — those are all unique to the MR model. The MR model, on the other hand, is only offered with the Twin-Clutch Sportronic Shift Transmission — which isn't going to play nicely with horsepower tweaks that some owners will want to make. In fact, Mitsubishi has told us it will be very difficult to tune the TC-SST models because of the transmission's torque limitations.

How big of a deal all of this is depends on which side of manual/purist debate you're on. Combined with the fact that our lap times were virtually identical between the GSR and MR versions, we say go for the former and get the stick. The five-speed's ratios are almost perfectly spaced, and a six-speed simply isn't necessary. And with the GSR estimated to cost $34,000 and the MR $39,000, the price differential alone leaves enough scratch in the budget to upgrade the Evo X GSR the way you see fit."

As always... there are good arguments on both sides.

It really depends on your needs. Maybe next year they will offer 6MT with the MR. I would be pretty pissed though.

From Motivemagazine.com - http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature/first_steer/Motive_First_Drive_2008_Mitsubishi_Lancer_Evolution.shtml

"The primary difference between the GSR and MR models is one that enthusiasts are most likely to struggle with. The GSR is only offered with a five-speed manual and doesn't include the BBS wheels, two-piece rotors, Bilstein struts, Eibach springs, or the great Recaro seats — those are all unique to the MR model. The MR model, on the other hand, is only offered with the Twin-Clutch Sportronic Shift Transmission — which isn't going to play nicely with horsepower tweaks that some owners will want to make. In fact, Mitsubishi has told us it will be very difficult to tune the TC-SST models because of the transmission's torque limitations.

How big of a deal all of this is depends on which side of manual/purist debate you're on. Combined with the fact that our lap times were virtually identical between the GSR and MR versions, we say go for the former and get the stick. The five-speed's ratios are almost perfectly spaced, and a six-speed simply isn't necessary. And with the GSR estimated to cost $34,000 and the MR $39,000, the price differential alone leaves enough scratch in the budget to upgrade the Evo X GSR the way you see fit."

As always... there are good arguments on both sides.

I'm locked in at $35,000 for my MR with my local dealer. I'm not really sure where you/they got 39,000 from.

35k? that is a fuggen awesome deal

depending on the source, you'll get a different winner every time but most of the love went to the MR version over the GSR.

I am concerned about modding an MR...but if what they say is true, that the SST can handle up to 347 lb/ft torque, then I will be one happy camper.

I just wish the MR version came in Octane Blue. I would definitely that Blue over Phantom Black.

35k? that is a fuggen awesome deal

Haha, I thought it was pretty decent. I'm sure people there will be even better deals than that as the MRs become available. You being in canada, must be drooling over an MR costing 35k.

Haha, I thought it was pretty decent. I'm sure people there will be even better deals than that as the MRs become available. You being in canada, must be drooling over an MR costing 35k.

35k in Canada gets me a Mazdaspeed 3 :bowlol::bowlol:

btw the brochure states that Phantom Black is MR exclusive...if it is, then that is cool.

Octane Blue for GSR models only

Phantom Black for MR models only

that's fair enough.

I have a Phantom black MR preordered.... joygasm! Too bad I have nooo clue when I will get it! The dealers can't give a straight answer as to when it will arrive. My salesmen said to me, "as far as I know it is still coming in at the end of this month (march) .... " which means he doesn't know anything at all.
(Fingers crossed)

I cant see alot of difference in the specs between here and US, im kinda stoked, being... we are usally the last on the plant to get anything :)

Phantom Black for MR models only

That was how it was originally going to be. However, PB is now available on the GSR for $250 extra.

That was how it was originally going to be. However, PB is now available on the GSR for $250 extra.

then Octane Blue should be available for the MR models then.

then Octane Blue should be available for the MR models then.

I remember hearing that Blue wasn't going to be available for the MR, but remeber why.