Pump gas
Kelford 214b and 1mm over valves

http://hbspeed.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&boost=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=373&rgb1=000000255

AWESOME Is that with Ethos?

Can you also post my graph on the Database?

Thanks Jon

Would be nice to see some more torque, but great looking power curve nonetheless!

Is this a 4th gear pull? Maybe that should be specified, since I believe Cobb said they usually do 3rd gear pulls with their dyno sheets on the database. It would be more accurate to compare graphs done in the same gear. Just a thought...

Would be nice to see some more torque, but great looking power curve nonetheless!

Is this a 4th gear pull? Maybe that should be specified, since I believe Cobb said they usually do 3rd gear pulls with their dyno sheets on the database. It would be more accurate to compare graphs done in the same gear. Just a thought...

4th gear, gear doesnt matter on a dyno that uses roll speed for a tacho
cobbs and mine do so.

Would be nice to see some more torque, but great looking power curve nonetheless!

Is this a 4th gear pull? Maybe that should be specified, since I believe Cobb said they usually do 3rd gear pulls with their dyno sheets on the database. It would be more accurate to compare graphs done in the same gear. Just a thought...

From the dyno's Ive been getting the majority of the shops are all 3rd gear pulls.

4th gear, gear doesnt matter on a dyno that uses roll speed for a tacho
cobbs and mine do so.

Boost curve is the one thing that stands out the most, Tim and I did 3rd and 4th gear pulls with my car and it made a difference for the spool.

Boost curve is the one thing that stands out the most, Tim and I did 3rd and 4th gear pulls with my car and it made a difference for the spool.
thats nice, its not that much of a difference on mine

Why wouldn't it matter? The turbo will spool faster in 4th gear over 3rd gear, so torque would peak sooner and the power curve would be slightly different...

Why wouldn't it matter? The turbo will spool faster in 4th gear over 3rd gear, so torque would peak sooner and the power curve would be slightly different...
i have a simulated road load, when in 3rd i load the dyno a bit more to accurately mimic the street and in 4th i leave it alone

Most dyno in 3rd because less load = less knock = better numbers = more sales. I am more concerned about the Tune and the saftey of the car WFO in 4th and 5th (where real issues come about )

i have a simulated road load, when in 3rd i load the dyno a bit more to accurately mimic the street and in 4th i leave it alone

Most dyno in 3rd because less load = less knock = better numbers = more sales. I am more concerned about the Tune and the saftey of the car WFO in 4th and 5th (where real issues come about )
Ok that makes sense then, thanks for explaining.

Most dyno in 3rd because less load = less knock = better numbers = more sales.

:priceless:

is this on pump?

Yes.

I think those valves are helping quite a bit, very nice!

impressive.

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I think those valves are helping quite a bit, very nice!

im going with a 2mm over exh valve

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im going with a 2mm over exh valve

On your personal car you are?

You are on a red right?

Damn, impressive numbers. Is the FP green capable of this power on pump gas too?

Damn, impressive numbers. Is the FP green capable of this power on pump gas too?

yeah i really want to see what the green can put down with similar mods and spool. i think some meth in there to bring the tq up should be real nice :rock:

Does he have a fuel rail/injectors/pump?

Does he have a fuel rail/injectors/pump?
i was going back to edit my post to ask this, you beat me too it.

also how is street driving with those cams?

Injectors, yes.

Fuel pumps, yes.

only walbro (single)

DannyH

Injectors, yes.

Fuel pumps, yes.

Yes...PUMPS. ;) double-pumper of vroom

DannyH

what injectors and how is the street drivablity with cams

what injectors and how is the street drivablity with cams
DW 800 and drives great!

i think this car on E85 would make over 500whp ( or meth)

DW 800 and drives great!
you can go with 1000 and jon can tune it the same as 800 right?

i think this car on E85 would make over 500whp ( or meth)
you guys keep on making my choices harder on what turbo now. only problem is meth doesn't help spool faster

amazing reds once could not do this now reds can hit 500 plus hp you really should see and I know this is time consuming etc what a green will do on this set up on the same car and then with a red it would answer so many questions for so many people. But I honestley never expected to see this on a dom or green. I think we are finally getting to the max on these tubos The dom at 450 green still unproven to hit this much but migt hit 460 and the red 515-520 I think is the max. It really looks like a stock frame turbo is the way to go unless you plan on upgrading internals and final drive ratio to get it's worth. The 4b11 is a beast. great job

amazing reds once could not do this now reds can hit 500 plus hp you really should see and I know this is time consuming etc what a green will do on this set up on the same car and then with a red it would answer so many questions for so many people. But I honestley never expected to see this on a dom or green. I think we are finally getting to the max on these tubos The dom at 450 green still unproven to hit this much but migt hit 460 and the red 515-520 I think is the max. It really looks like a stock frame turbo is the way to go unless you plan on upgrading internals and final drive ratio to get it's worth. The 4b11 is a beast. great job

For the most part its been the set ups lacking all the needed components. The turbos have been capable but when you strap them to a car lacking fuel or that has a flow restriction its not going to preform.

The 52-54 lb/min turbos are good for 400-430whp and it helps to log the correct g/s so you know if your over working the turbo because if you are getting more power then it was designed for it will severely shorten its life.

Your starting to see more power now also due to the fact people are finding out whats actually a restriction on the new engine design. For example the DP was a restriction before but not so much for our engines comparatively. However its becoming more and more clear head flow is a slight restriction and added cams / 1mm over valving is helping to flow better so your dropping the pressure that causes heat and making more power.

1mm over valving is helping to flow better so your dropping the pressure that causes heat and making more power.

I just picked up my +1mm head from MAP. Bob mentioned that it does flow quite a bit better up top than stock. I am waiting to get the numbers from him via email.

Damn, impressive numbers. Is the FP green capable of this power on pump gas too?
lets find out with some head work and cams :D

Nice numbers...

very

lets find out with some head work and cams :D

ummm yes please, or maybe corn fuel :shades:

Can't wait for my turbo. :dancebanana:

damn, 450whp and full boost at 3.5K rpm? thats the perfect setup.
can the green do that?

That is beast but the TQ is less than that of a stocker

That is beast but the TQ is less than that of a stocker

Thats how most stock frame turbos are unless you boost a bit higher than you did on the stocker...the stock turbo is a pretty torquey beast.

nice numbers for pump