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What is your current ETA for your first Evo Specific part, and what will it be?

Do you\Will you ship outside the US?

I thought you guys had color choices for the MBC... on the site I only see the red.

What is your current ETA for your first Evo Specific part, and what will it be?

Coming soon. We are close to having exhaust and rear sway bars available.

Much more coming.

Do youWill you ship outside the US?

Yes we do, just email, aim, PM or call me or my sales buddies Christina, Ken or Kristin.

I thought you guys had color choices for the MBC... on the site I only see the red.

currently we only have the red. if you really want it I might have a secret stash of one black one. PM me if you are interested.

do you have a boost guage kit with your mbc?I would like to see a one stop package for a boost control unit.

do you have a boost guage kit with your mbc?I would like to see a one stop package for a boost control unit.

That is a good idea! We can certainly bundle something like that for you. If you still want to do that, PLEASE ring me up at the office or speak to Ken.

503-693-1702 or even better e-mail me your contact information and I can get someone to ring you back ASAP.

Thanks for asking!

currently we only have the red. if you really want it I might have a secret stash of one black one. PM me if you are interested.
Do you still have a black one in stock?

Do you still have a black one in stock?

Contact John directly. If he said secret stash, I am SURE he meant secret stash!

Does the UNIchip have the abilty to tap into MIVEC mapping?

Can the UNIchip control fueling/spark maps for a small shot (50) of nitrous?

Update on Perrin Piggyback for sale?

Does the UNIchip have the abilty to tap into MIVEC mapping?

Can the UNIchip control fueling/spark maps for a small shot (50) of nitrous?

The UniChip can not control MIVEC as I understand it, but will check tomorrow.

It has an output that could work to activate a NOS system if programmed to do so. For the mapping, you would need the have a custom program for the NOS setup.

More information coming soon!

Update on Perrin Piggyback for sale?

Thanks for asking. Trying to have Jeff get all the final touches done this week. Expect a $499-$549 MSRP with the map switch. Adding Bluetooth switchable 5 maps, will run an additional $200.

Hope that helps! Thanks again!

where can we take out cars for protunes using the Piggyback? I'm in northern Nevada near the CA border.

Are you guys going to have some generic tunes for people that do not live anywhere close to have the car taken in to have it placed on the dyno? We do not have a 4 wheel dyno in the State of Oklahoma:(. I still would like to get an extra 30-40hp out of tune, but i would rather have a nice flat 20hp increase instead of a spike of 30-40.

^Sounds like that's exactly what he has. Myself I'm looking for an extra 80 to 100 whp with a bunch of bolt ons. I gotta' have a protune or a proper road tune

I would like to get a total of 60-70hp with all my mods. It has just been in my experience that generic tunes usually dont get the big numbers of a nice custom tune. I just want to make sure i get at least a solid 25-30hp bump with the tune that makes a nice flat curve, which improves on the smoothness of the car. If it is solid 40 with a good curve then that is great sign me up now even though my car hasnt arrived yet. I would still like to see a hand held device that let me change between factory and tuned setting like I have for the car Im about to trade in.

Are you guys going to have some generic tunes for people that do not live anywhere close to have the car taken in to have it placed on the dyno? We do not have a 4 wheel dyno in the State of Oklahoma:(. I still would like to get an extra 30-40hp out of tune, but i would rather have a nice flat 20hp increase instead of a spike of 30-40.

The ECU from us will have a dew different map choices. More on the maps when it goes on sale. But you will be able to choose from mild to wild.

I need to check with Jeff but I believe any UniChip tuner can re-program the UniChip in the field. They won't be able to extract and read our base maps, but they can put their own on it for the customer.

Our goal is to offer as many combinations of parts / maps as both become available and tested.

We will also be offering an exchange up-map program once things get rolling. So if you get a base car map now, and then upgrade later for a nominal fee and deposit, we will send you a new UniChip with the new mapping. You send back the UniChip in your car for core credit.

Hope that helps! Thanks again!

I would like to get a total of 60-70hp with all my mods. It has just been in my experience that generic tunes usually dont get the big numbers of a nice custom tune. I just want to make sure i get at least a solid 25-30hp bump with the tune that makes a nice flat curve, which improves on the smoothness of the car. If it is solid 40 with a good curve then that is great sign me up now even though my car hasnt arrived yet. I would still like to see a hand held device that let me change between factory and tuned setting like I have for the car Im about to trade in.

No issues at all. More information to come.

Thanks again folks!

Thanks for the info Adam.

So the exchange program is meant for someone who may get a chip for their stock setup then get a few bolt-ons and want a new chip?

How hard is this to install, and are there How To Pics anywhere?

Thanks for the info Adam.

So the exchange program is meant for someone who may get a chip for their stock setup then get a few bolt-ons and want a new chip?

Right. Or even if they go from mild Stage Two, to a large turbo etc. As long as we have done the dyno testing on the similar setup in house, then we can provide new mapping.

Thanks again!

How hard is this to install, and are there How To Pics anywhere?

Requires a bit of patience and time, but it is installable by anyone with both. Full write up coming soon!

From the many hours I have spent talking to Jeff about this product, I would say that most everything you guys would want for now will be addressed. There will definitely be cases where it may be difficult to get a good base map for a car that has parts that Perrin / Alta cant test themselves. These guys are very meticulous, and don't leave anything to chance, so you wont have to worry about anyone from Perrin giving you a half baked map that isn't tested.

How 'bout some names of dealers/tuners in Cali or Nevada that can throw my car on the dyno for a protune with the piggyback? I'm not gonna' settle for a 'map'....more like a couple hours on a Mustang'

How 'bout some names of dealers/tuners in Cali or Nevada that can throw my car on the dyno for a protune with the piggyback? I'm not gonna' settle for a 'map'....more like a couple hours on a Mustang'

I need to research how this will work. PERRIN/ALTA is the only US tuner at this point with the keycode(for lack of a better word) to tune the EVO X on the UniChip. WE lock our maps so they can't be "borrowed" by other tuners. So I need to check with Jeff how we can get the base mapping included and unlocked so a local tuner can not have to start from scratch.

Regardless, no big deal. PDXEVO may be better able to answer some of your concerns as well.

THANK YOU!

well I could drive up there. 580 miles, 1100 round trip. Thats around 45 gal of premium.

well I could drive up there. 580 miles, 1100 round trip. Thats around 45 gal of premium.

I like that idea a ton! Lets get Jeff to pop in here with a bit more, info and schedule a dyno day of sorts and maybe get a few guys up for a weekend?

thoughts?

I talked to Jeff about this yesterday and he is all for it! Just call in advanced to schedule something. If you need a place to stay Moose, let me know. I always have an open couch ;)

It would be cool to get a few more Evo X guys on the list. Be neat to see everyone in person!

When you call them, make sure you give Ken or Steve a really hard time if they answer the phone :)

One question Moose, are you stuck on 91 octane?

too bad all we have is 91. It bums me out when I hear all these guys in 93 states....kills me they can pull up and get the real deal anytime they want. We have fill our tanks piss.

It would be nice to have a 91 map, race gas map and stock map

too bad all we have is 91. It bums me out when I hear all these guys in 93 states....kills me they can pull up and get the real deal anytime they want. We have fill our tanks piss.

It would be nice to have a 91 map, race gas map and stock map

Sounds good! Sorry about the piss water!

It would be cool to get a few more Evo X guys on the list. Be neat to see everyone in person!

I'd be down for a meet sometime. Saving money for some exhaust then afterwards I'll be getting a tune-hopefully around the same time Moose comes up here to wonderful Oregon.

I'd be down for a meet sometime. Saving money for some exhaust then afterwards I'll be getting a tune-hopefully around the same time Moose comes up here to wonderful Oregon.

Kool! Look forward to it!

any updates on the "piggy back" unichip? ive read a lot on evom.net and on here.

thanks, foo

any updates on the "piggy back" unichip? ive read a lot on evom.net and on here.

thanks, foo

More info soon! Tons of new things happening right now and we want things to be 100%. Thanks for the interest!

Review posted in the tuning session on the Unichip!

Ok when can we get our hands on the UNI Chip is there an ETA for this? I want especially with the blue tooth and the switching between multiple tunes. I also am ready for all the other Perrin Parts as well Im impatient lol. J/K take your time I would rather have really good well tested parts.

Ok when can we get our hands on the UNI Chip is there an ETA for this? I want especially with the blue tooth and the switching between multiple tunes. I also am ready for all the other Perrin Parts as well Im impatient lol. J/K take your time I would rather have really good well tested parts.

Hey thanks! Jeff was really busy on the RockStar Subaru's this week making some new secret weapons. But that should be done today or tomorrow in time for the first stages of the Oregon Trail Rally. Jeff and I will be back in full force on this stuff next week.

Sorry for the delay!

Any updates on ETA for this? I know I ask about once a week, but dammit I'm excited lol.

Any updates on ETA for this? I know I ask about once a week, but dammit I'm excited lol.

As you should be! I am excited too. We have another local satisfied client running around in addition to PDXEVO and another one going to be delivered on Tuesday.

Jeff (Perrin) holds the key to when I can start selling these. I will ring his neck on Tuesday.

Thanks again for your persistence.

Chat soon!

thanks for update. tell jeff its time. lol. ide like to order this with my mbc so i can have both ship at the same time.

Adam will this device beable to recieve updated tunes for the car as I add new parts via email? This is very important to me since I live all the way in Oklahoma, and have no access to a place to get any other flash type tunes. If not I will have to wait until accessport comes out::(

Adam will this device beable to recieve updated tunes for the car as I add new parts via email? This is very important to me since I live all the way in Oklahoma, and have no access to a place to get any other flash type tunes. If not I will have to wait until accessport comes out::(

Yes you can. We can just core exchange the ECU portion so there is no down time. Just a minor fee for the shipping and remapping.

Thanks again!

We are doing one more installation and then we are off! Those who are interested should give us ring and we can back order it for you!

Will the final product require lots of wire slicing? Im scared to death of messing the whole ECU up. Will u be sending detailed instructions,and a list of things we will need to install? Last are we going to be able to get the blue tooth thing right away also that ive heard about?

We are doing one more installation and then we are off! Those who are interested should give us ring and we can back order it for you!

do we have a price yet?

just installed Perrin fmic on my Evo x. Car was tuned before install. Before fmic boost was hitting 24.5 lbs at wide open throttle. It's now hitting 28.5 at wot !!!!!! Is this normal? I didn't think I would need to get it retuned for just a fmic but I guess I was wrong. Any input????

ideally you should go in for another tune.

28psi should be ok although right on the edge I would say, ExtremeBoost has reported higher boost in previous posts.. obviously I cannot link to that missing thread. :)

Other posts have had:
Stock =22-23psi
Tuned = 25p-27psi..

Has perrin given up on making their piggy back tune?

i drive my EVO everyday and i ahve no other car to use...how long does it take for the ECU to get re-mapped by perrin?? i could send it out of friday morning at the earlyest...but i would HAVE to have it back by monday....but i dont think that is possibale

If you are getting an off the shelf EcuTek tune.. it will be a drive in drive out option ( 2 hours max).. if you are getting a custom tune it will take longer.. perhaps a whole day. thats pretty stock timing.. Perrin may have more accurate time requirements to post.

well i dont think theres any ECU people (or perrin) in naples, Florida lol

how fast are the courier services out there? you could get a mail in flash?

well im not too far from Ft. Myres and about 90 miles from Miami..there the only places i believe that would have ECU tuners...

All I want to know is, when is Perrin putting out their turboback exhaust for the X??????/

Ive heard we should hear something in the next couple weeks through some emails.

Ken Jubb at Perrin added me to their contact list so I will know as soon as it comes out. You should do the same.

Hey, any plans on releasing intercooler piping?

Ken Jubb at Perrin added me to their contact list so I will know as soon as it comes out. You should do the same.

Ken recently left us! If you didn't get the information that you needed PLEASE let me know so I can help you further!

Hey, any plans on releasing intercooler piping?

Should be soon! Jeff was working on this recently! Thanks for asking!

Sweet. Come spring time, i wanted to order the TBE, FMIC, Inlet, and hopefully you'll have the piping by then as well. Perrin Evo FTW. lol.

I had your Perrin Equal Length Headers on my old 04 STi and i loved it. Awesome craftsmanship and sick mid/top end power. Was well worth the money.

Any update on the Perrin Heat Shield I saw floating around a while ago?

It looked like something I wanted...

Any update on the Perrin Heat Shield I saw floating around a while ago?

It looked like something I wanted...

I definitely want this to. I talked to Jeff about this awhile back though. I can not for the life of me remeber what he said about it, so that doesnt help at all.

Last i heard they are still working on someone to mass produce it...

Sweet. Come spring time, i wanted to order the TBE, FMIC, Inlet, and hopefully you'll have the piping by then as well. Perrin Evo FTW. lol.

I had your Perrin Equal Length Headers on my old 04 STi and i loved it. Awesome craftsmanship and sick mid/top end power. Was well worth the money.

Thank you! Appreciate the compliments and the future business! Let me know if I can help in anyway!

Any update on the Perrin Heat Shield I saw floating around a while ago?

It looked like something I wanted...

I definitely want this to. I talked to Jeff about this awhile back though. I can not for the life of me remeber what he said about it, so that doesnt help at all.

Last i heard they are still working on someone to mass produce it...

Working on it still! We will have it!

Thanks guys!

I bought the Cobb AP through Cobb tuning last month. I was wondering if I can buy the Perrin Stage 1 map for the AP from you guys. I saw that the Perrin Stage 1 map on the AP has a higher torque gain than the Cobb Stage 1 map. Thanks in advance

I bought the Cobb AP through Cobb tuning last month. I was wondering if I can buy the Perrin Stage 1 map for the AP from you guys. I saw that the Perrin Stage 1 map on the AP has a higher torque gain than the Cobb Stage 1 map. Thanks in advance
Im sure Perrin will chime in, but i read 180 buckaroos for it. :theeye:

I bought the Cobb AP through Cobb tuning last month. I was wondering if I can buy the Perrin Stage 1 map for the AP from you guys. I saw that the Perrin Stage 1 map on the AP has a higher torque gain than the Cobb Stage 1 map. Thanks in advance

Regular MSRP is $180 on the map. I can cut ya a bit of a break for being a evoxforums guy though right? :rock:

Send me a pm and we will work something out!

What's the status of the heat shield you guys were making?

JEff PERRIN: can you answer ^^^^^

Regular MSRP is $180 on the map. I can cut ya a bit of a break for being a evoxforums guy though right? :rock:

Send me a pm and we will work something out!
yu has PM. :tumbleweed:

any plans on releasing a stealth version of the exhaust?

any plans on releasing a stealth version of the exhaust?
YES! Currently by special order, but will be full release by Springs. Let us know!

YES! Currently by special order, but will be full release by Springs. Let us know!any details on it? will it be black or unpolished stainless? cost will be the same?

any details on it? will it be black or unpolished stainless? cost will be the same?

BLACK!

Within $50 of the polished.

More details coming soon!

Where is Jeff? Where is this heat shield thingy? LOL

I was going to get the perrin turbo inlet hose but i might also get the ECUTek flash in the future, which do you guys recommend first? also have you guys done the ECUTek flash on an EVO X MR yet, if so, how has the SST tranny handled it. Thanks. fyi, I have no performance mods so far.

Hey guys at Perrin I just wanted to no what gains I could expect from your AP tune and If you tune it can I just plug it in and it will work. Now I do have a Cobb AP protuner about a Block away I just want to get some options before I go over there,Because They are priceing me at 695 for the AP and 175 a hour for pro tunning they said about 2 to 3 hour to tune for they have used the AP since way back an just did the new gtr about a month ago.

Hey Perrin, I have a shorty antenna on back order witchyas and I want to see if you can sell me a MBC kit minus the boost controller. I bought the controller second-hand but I need the hose, instructions, and anything else that normally comes with. Invoice number for back ordered antenna is 00136871. PM me, thanks~!!

Hey Perrin, I have a shorty antenna on back order witchyas and I want to see if you can sell me a MBC kit minus the boost controller. I bought the controller second-hand but I need the hose, instructions, and anything else that normally comes with. Invoice number for back ordered antenna is 00136871. PM me, thanks~!!

NP. Sent you an e-mail along with a copy to my CSR.

Chat soon!

Do you expect to have a Stage 1 map that's compatible with the MR sometime soon? Reason for asking is because the AccessPort Manager identified the map not to be for an MR. The map was also grayed out and couldn't be selected with the AccessPort connected to the car.

Btw, I ordered my Cobb AP through you and also got the Perrin Stage 1 map emailed to me.

Do you expect to have a Stage 1 map that's compatible with the MR sometime soon? Reason for asking is because the AccessPort Manager identified the map not to be for an MR. The map was also grayed out and couldn't be selected with the AccessPort connected to the car.

Btw, I ordered my Cobb AP through you and also got the Perrin Stage 1 map emailed to me.


Thanks for asking! I am sure we can handle any concerns. Can you PM or e-mail me your details and I will get the proper person to get back to you ASAP!

Sorry for any inconvenience!

Thanks for asking! I am sure we can handle any concerns. Can you PM or e-mail me your details and I will get the proper person to get back to you ASAP!

Sorry for any inconvenience!
No worries and thanks for following up! I got the correct MR map sent to me now. :)

No worries and thanks for following up! I got the correct MR map sent to me now. :)

SWEET!!!!

Adam,

Is Perrin going to be making intercooler piping any time soon?

Thank you!

Heat shield?

Adam,

Is Perrin going to be making intercooler piping any time soon?

Thank you!

Heat shield?

Uhm Jeff? Care to make any new announcements to the group?;)

Hey no winking! What does wink mean?

Come on pretty please... LOL

Its coming along well. The first few were a little ugly and we have worked past that now. Not sure on a time frame though, but its on the top of the list! I would like to say a couple of weeks, but i think i said that about 8 weeks ago :)

On the boost tubes, we finally have some time around here to build them and do some testing. We plan on doing some testing of a prototype set when with the Blouch bolt on GT3071R. The back to back test will be done with about 380WHP on tap. This will be a good indication if the stock pipes are as bad as people say they are.

More to come!

:( So hard being patient.

Can you at least tell us if they will be a one piece design or two piece? I am getting the mod itch and you know how bad that can (and probably will) get.

This may end up sitting nicely with my "mod itch" timing...

If you have a one-piece and offer it in stealth black, I may have to order one along with that heat shield :)

^:+1: for single piece design in stealth black.

Dude you read my mind! LOL

Hey Jeff from Perrin, I'm about to order the Cobb AP for Evo X from you guys directly on your website and I noticed that you gave 3 stages of options when purchasing the AP. The problem I see is that I want to order it now with the Stage 2 mapping because I planned in the summertime to purchase your Perrin TBE system, but in the meantime I want to use your Stage 1 mapping till I can get the Perrin TBE installed in summertime. Will I have to pay extra to have both Stage 1 and Stage 2 e-mailed to me or am I only alotted one free stage mapping upon purchasing?

Also what the differences in Stage 1 Stage 2 and Stage 3. Would one require more mods than the other, if so what are the requirements to run each stage?

Ray, In my case anyway. As you buy products from Perrin they will usually update maps at no cost. So, if you buy the AP get their maps then buy exhaust I am sure Adam and Jeff would have no problem progressing you up the stage line. I know I am not the Perrin guys answering the question, but I would be willing to bet some money that I would be correct.

Thanks for the reassurance, so do you think I should purchase the AP with stage 1 mapping instead of buying it with stage 2 off the bat. This way I can use it the fullest till I can get a hold of the exhaust.

You should see what stage 1 feels like. It makes the Evo a totally different car. Then if you want more power then upgrade to stage 2.

I think you're misunderstanding what the AP does.

(Or, if I am, please correct me)

The AccessPort is not purchased "with stage 1 mapping". An AccessPort is an AccessPort. Once you receive the AP, you plug it into your car, choose which map you want to flash, and let it go!

However, if you buy a MAP from Perrin, you just buy the map.

These are the free maps currently available, with more to be added as time goes on.

http://www.accessecu.com/accessport/mitsubishi/AP-MIT-002/EVOXMaps.html

Hopefully that makes it easier for you to decide. You can get one now, flash with a Cobb stage 1, and when you get your exhaust, you can spring for the Perrin Stage II.

I think you're misunderstanding what the AP does.

(Or, if I am, please correct me)

The AccessPort is not purchased "with stage 1 mapping". An AccessPort is an AccessPort. Once you receive the AP, you plug it into your car, choose which map you want to flash, and let it go!

These are the maps currently available, with more to be added as time goes on.

http://www.accessecu.com/accessport/mitsubishi/AP-MIT-002/EVOXMaps.html

Hopefully that makes it easier for you to decide. You can get one now, flash with a stage 1, and when the Stage II is released and you have your exhaust, you can then flash with that.

I think you're misunderstanding what the AP does.

(Or, if I am, please correct me)

The AccessPort is not purchased "with stage 1 mapping". An AccessPort is an AccessPort. Once you receive the AP, you plug it into your car, choose which map you want to flash, and let it go!

These are the maps currently available, with more to be added as time goes on.

http://www.accessecu.com/accessport/mitsubishi/AP-MIT-002/EVOXMaps.html

Hopefully that makes it easier for you to decide. You can get one now, flash with a stage 1, and when the Stage II is released and you have your exhaust, you can then flash with that.

I know very well what the AP can do. My whole point was I wanted to own both Perrin Stage 1 and Stage 2 mapping but when you go purchase the AP from there website you have to choose 1 of there 3 stage mappings upon checkout. I wanted to plan ahead and purchase the AP with stage 2 mappings in hopes to use that for later when I do buy there Perrin TBE in summer time. But for the meantime I want to run there Perrin stage 1 mapping. My conumdrum is would I be able to get Stage 1 mapping for free or pay extra since I already decided on ordering the AP with Stage 2 mapping preloaded in it. Or else, if I can run Stage 2 mapping without a TBE, how would this affect my car performance wise and drivablity?

This is the link to purchasing there AP.
http://www.perrinperformance.com/products/show/638/AccessPORT?category=43&model=26

Ok, just making sure!

I didn't understand that you wanted both I and II from Perrin. I just wanted to make sure you knew about the free maps.


Good luck!

Thanks for the reassurance, so do you think I should purchase the AP with stage 1 mapping instead of buying it with stage 2 off the bat. This way I can use it the fullest till I can get a hold of the exhaust.

I bet if you called and talked to Adam or Jeff they would send you both maps. I never order online from them I always call so we are on the same page about what I want. Plus Jeff emailed me my maps anyway they were not preloaded.

Hey Jeff from Perrin, I'm about to order the Cobb AP for Evo X from you guys directly on your website and I noticed that you gave 3 stages of options when purchasing the AP. The problem I see is that I want to order it now with the Stage 2 mapping because I planned in the summertime to purchase your Perrin TBE system, but in the meantime I want to use your Stage 1 mapping till I can get the Perrin TBE installed in summertime. Will I have to pay extra to have both Stage 1 and Stage 2 e-mailed to me or am I only alotted one free stage mapping upon purchasing?

Also what the differences in Stage 1 Stage 2 and Stage 3. Would one require more mods than the other, if so what are the requirements to run each stage?

Jeff can explain in greater detail on the differences in each stage, but if you buy the AP from us now, get the map you need right now. Then when you update the car to Stage Two or Three and buy the parts from us, we include the proper map at no addl. charge! So no addl. costs.

Ray, In my case anyway. As you buy products from Perrin they will usually update maps at no cost. So, if you buy the AP get their maps then buy exhaust I am sure Adam and Jeff would have no problem progressing you up the stage line. I know I am not the Perrin guys answering the question, but I would be willing to bet some money that I would be correct.

True!

Thanks for the reassurance, so do you think I should purchase the AP with stage 1 mapping instead of buying it with stage 2 off the bat. This way I can use it the fullest till I can get a hold of the exhaust.

Stage One!

You should see what stage 1 feels like. It makes the Evo a totally different car. Then if you want more power then upgrade to stage 2.

Everyone needs MORE power!:thumbup:

I bet if you called and talked to Adam or Jeff they would send you both maps. I never order online from them I always call so we are on the same page about what I want. Plus Jeff emailed me my maps anyway they were not preloaded.

Yeah! Whatever works best for the client works best for us. You can always order online, or if you want a more personal touch, ring me, Jeff or Chris up and we can gladly take care of you!

Thanks guys! BTW: 10% coupon expires tomorrow. Some items don't take the code online, so PM me for those!

Hey Adam, COBB just release their Stage 2 map, just a removal of the pill an flash. How does this compare to your stage 1 AP map??? Thanks. Im trying to figure out if is worth upgrading to it, or stay as it is.

Or are you guy making a similar map, with the pill remove. If so, will the current stage 1 owners get free upgrades? Thanks.

Adam-

I bought my Cobb AP from you guys but never got the map emailed to me- PM me if you need my info again...

Hey Adam, COBB just release their Stage 2 map, just a removal of the pill an flash. How does this compare to your stage 1 AP map??? Thanks. Im trying to figure out if is worth upgrading to it, or stay as it is.

Or are you guy making a similar map, with the pill remove. If so, will the current stage 1 owners get free upgrades? Thanks.

I am going to have Jeff pop in here momentarily, but as I understand it the PERRIN Stage One produces more HP and doesn't require the removal of the pill. Our Stage Two moves to additional parts (Turbo-Back, etc.) Again Jeff will be in shortly.


Adam-

I bought my Cobb AP from you guys but never got the map emailed to me- PM me if you need my info again...

e-mail chris.cone@perrinperformance.com including inv# and daytime tel#. He will get back in touch with you ASAP with that map.

Sorry for any inconvenience!

Hey Adam, COBB just release their Stage 2 map, just a removal of the pill an flash. How does this compare to your stage 1 AP map??? Thanks. Im trying to figure out if is worth upgrading to it, or stay as it is.

Or are you guy making a similar map, with the pill remove. If so, will the current stage 1 owners get free upgrades? Thanks.
All our maps are built with the restrictor in place. We found that it worked just fine with it there. With that said we did do some testing with our EBCS and got more boost at redline (6500-7000), but it didin't net any additional power. This is because the turbo is starting to run out of air and become less efficient. With the stock turbo, and stage 3 setup, we hit the wall at 350WHP. WE did lots of things and from about 6000 on up, more power couldn't be had. So we feel the restrictor is just fine being installed.

Where we do think more power can be had is if a water/meth kit was installed. This can help overcome the turbo running less efficient, more timing can be added, and more boost might make some more power. At this point its custom tune time and our EBCS would be a great addition to get a little more boost.

Hope that make sense!

^Have a chance to try out the Dominator 2.0 Turbo yet. I can not wait to get that stuff from you, as long as the tax man does not take me to jailor the poor house that is.

Just found this thread lots of good info in here. I just ordered my AP from Perrin this afternoon and should have it around thursday. I wanted to add that they were very helpfull on the phone and the fact that when purchasing the AP from them you get their staged maps for the AP at no extra charge was a deal closer!! I have been driving my EVO X stock for a year now and can not wait to get the extra power. I came from a 380WHP EVO 8 so my X has felt like a slug.

Just found this thread lots of good info in here. I just ordered my AP from Perrin this afternoon and should have it around thursday. I wanted to add that they were very helpfull on the phone and the fact that when purchasing the AP from them you get their staged maps for the AP at no extra charge was a deal closer!! I have been driving my EVO X stock for a year now and can not wait to get the extra power. I came from a 380WHP EVO 8 so my X has felt like a slug.

Thank you Scott! Let me know if I can help in the future!

All our maps are built with the restrictor in place. We found that it worked just fine with it there. With that said we did do some testing with our EBCS and got more boost at redline (6500-7000), but it didin't net any additional power. This is because the turbo is starting to run out of air and become less efficient. With the stock turbo, and stage 3 setup, we hit the wall at 350WHP. WE did lots of things and from about 6000 on up, more power couldn't be had. So we feel the restrictor is just fine being installed.

Where we do think more power can be had is if a water/meth kit was installed. This can help overcome the turbo running less efficient, more timing can be added, and more boost might make some more power. At this point its custom tune time and our EBCS would be a great addition to get a little more boost.

Hope that make sense!
Makes sense, thank you.

Im just don't want to deal with the water/meth system for a DD.

Any plans to offer the exhaust with polished tips?

Do you have dyno numbers for the stage 2 package?

Any plans to offer the exhaust with polished tips?

Thanks for asking. The polished systems ALL have polished tips and plumbing. The Stealth is ALL black and no polished at all.

POLISHED:
http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/620/1246_large.jpg

BTW: The Stealth version is absent from my website right now, but IS available! So call me to order until it goes live later today.

Let me know how I can help further!


Do you have dyno numbers for the stage 2 package?

We DO. I don't have a link to the results. I will have Jeff post that up shortly.

Thanks for asking. The polished systems ALL have polished tips and plumbing. The Stealth is ALL black and no polished at all.

POLISHED:
http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/620/1246_large.jpg

BTW: The Stealth version is absent from my website right now, but IS available! So call me to order until it goes live later today.

Let me know how I can help further!




We DO. I don't have a link to the results. I will have Jeff post that up shortly.

Sorry bout that... for some reason I coulda swore the last time I looked a few weeks back the tips werent polished. Great news for me though!

Good info in here. I am in the market for a AP myself. The only reason I don't have one yet is I was holding out to get a stage 1 with AMS intake map. I paid $300 for an intake and I don't want it just sitting around doing nothing. I know there is some testing going on from other vendors on this very thing.

I guess my question is if i get the AP from you guys, are there plans to offer intake maps later? If so, would they be free of charge if I get the regular stage 1 map now?

I read through most of the thread, sorry if this has been asked before.

I am not a 100 percent on this, but the answer to your question is No. Ive talked to Jeff several times about getting a map with an intake. They do not feel comfortable sending out OTS maps for intakes.

I am not a 100 percent on this, but the answer to your question is No. Ive talked to Jeff several times about getting a map with an intake. They do not feel comfortable sending out OTS maps for intakes.

Probably due to the fact that the intakes tend to lean out the car anyways, overleaning it even on accident could end up with a blown engine. Having the car on hand, where its gonna be run.... a custom tune could tune in with the intake and not be overly dangerous, but a mail-in map is just too risky.

What kind of finish is on the stealth version? High temp paint, ceramic coating, etc.? Can you make it stealth except for the tips? I ask cause I don't like seeing the muffler section hanging down from behind the car and with it stealth I don't think you would notice it. Do you have any pictures from behind with the car on the ground? Thanks....

I am not a 100 percent on this, but the answer to your question is No. Ive talked to Jeff several times about getting a map with an intake. They do not feel comfortable sending out OTS maps for intakes.


Yeah thanks. I can certainly understand their concern on this.......just sucks for me I guess.

What kind of finish is on the stealth version? High temp paint, ceramic coating, etc.? Can you make it stealth except for the tips? I ask cause I don't like seeing the muffler section hanging down from behind the car and with it stealth I don't think you would notice it. Do you have any pictures from behind with the car on the ground? Thanks....
The coating is a high temp powder coat. Its a special powder that it good to 1200+ degrees and has very good corrosion properties. Its perfect for a catback that doesn't see those high temps like a header. For a header or turbo housing, or even the downpipe this coating wouldn't hold up. THat is where a Ceramic coating comes into play.

We do have some new pics on our site. Here is one of them. But the one from directly behind the car is awesome. Its as though nothing is there!
http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/685/1718_large.jpg

Yeah thanks. I can certainly understand their concern on this.......just sucks for me I guess.
Eventually there will be some maps for intakes. But initially there were too many issues that caused erratic AFR, timing and other issues, when we tested the intake. BUt that is not to say we are not going to offer mapping or an intake that does work perfect. The tuning software is much more efficient now which means it won't take 4 hours to tune a car! With that said we can spend our time more wisely and develope an intake map much quicker and better!

Thanks Jeff!

Heat shield coming along too?

A couple questions....saw some stuff over at that other site...

1) You never really answered the power rating for Stage 2?
2) Is there a Stage 3 AP map coming?
- If so what other stuff do you need compared to the stage 2?
3) Is the a 10% off deal going on for the AP????

Just got my Cobb AP today from Perrin with their stage 1 map and the car feels like it gained alot more that 30-40whp. I am very impressed, the car just wants to rev and pulls so hard now. The AP is perfect for me....just plug and play, later when I put some mods on the car I can get a custom tune, if I need to go to the dealer I can go back to stock in 5 min and if I sell the car I can sell the AP and get some money back. I had been on the fence for some time now on what to do as far as a tune and I really think I nailed it with the AP. Plus I am so busy all the time I did not know when I was going to be abe to find the time to take my car to get a tune.......10 minutes later and I was done.

I do have a question or two while I am posting if someone can answer them for me:
1. Is the AP always on while it is plugged in even when the car is off?
2. Can i plug th AP in while I am driving the car and begin to moniter or does it have to be plugged in before i start the car?
3. When I change maps not uninstall, will the AP save the current map back to the AP. For example I installed the Perrin map but want to change it the Cobb map, will the AP automatically save the Perrin map back to the AP before it installs the Cobb map? Also do I follow the same install steps to do this as when I initially installed the AP?


P.S. I am a very satisfied customer from Perrin. Everything they said they would do, they did. From answering my questions on the phone about the AP, to sending me the AP in the timeframe that they said they would, to sending me my custom Perrin map.

A couple questions....saw some stuff over at that other site...

1) You never really answered the power rating for Stage 2?
2) Is there a Stage 3 AP map coming?
- If so what other stuff do you need compared to the stage 2?
3) Is the a 10% off deal going on for the AP????

1) I do not know the answer to that one. Stage 3= around 350whp on a
aggressive map. (Dynopack Dyno). So probably around 340s.
2) They have stage 3 maps and for their stage 3 you need FMIC and
Turboback Exhaust.
3) I have no clue about their sales.

Just got my Cobb AP today from Perrin with their stage 1 map and the car feels like it gained alot more that 30-40whp. I am very impressed, the car just wants to rev and pulls so hard now. The AP is perfect for me....just plug and play, later when I put some mods on the car I can get a custom tune, if I need to go to the dealer I can go back to stock in 5 min and if I sell the car I can sell the AP and get some money back. I had been on the fence for some time now on what to do as far as a tune and I really think I nailed it with the AP. Plus I am so busy all the time I did not know when I was going to be abe to find the time to take my car to get a tune.......10 minutes later and I was done.

I do have a question or two while I am posting if someone can answer them for me:
1. Is the AP always on while it is plugged in even when the car is off?
2. Can i plug th AP in while I am driving the car and begin to moniter or does it have to be plugged in before i start the car?
3. When I change maps not uninstall, will the AP save the current map back to the AP. For example I installed the Perrin map but want to change it the Cobb map, will the AP automatically save the Perrin map back to the AP before it installs the Cobb map? Also do I follow the same install steps to do this as when I initially installed the AP?


P.S. I am a very satisfied customer from Perrin. Everything they said they would do, they did. From answering my questions on the phone about the AP, to sending me the AP in the timeframe that they said they would, to sending me my custom Perrin map.
1) Yes
2) Yes you can plug it in why you are driving.
3) Yes, and you just go to tune section and press change maps
It brings up all maps stored on AP and you just choose one.
The map that is currently on the car is still on the AP all the time
unless you change it.

i think the stealth looks real good but im a bling kinda guy. i like to pop the hood and see the nice shiny pieces

Jeff,

For your AP Maps.... do you have any for high altitude drivers like myself in Denver that are practically forced to run 91 octane?

Also... if I buy the full turbo back system as well as the AP and get the stage 1 map, later on if I get another competitors FMIC and piping, would I still be able to use the Perrin maps like stage 2?

Also... do you work with carcareone at all?

Hey Perrin Guys! Can you get any better sound clips of the exhaust? I still can't quite tell what it sounds like. DCSandman's clips make it sound really freakin' loud, but your video makes it sound really quiet and mellow. I'm planing to pull the trigger next week on yours or Specialty X's. Thanks for the help.

Hey Perrin Guys! Can you get any better sound clips of the exhaust? I still can't quite tell what it sounds like. DCSandman's clips make it sound really freakin' loud, but your video makes it sound really quiet and mellow. I'm planing to pull the trigger next week on yours or Specialty X's. Thanks for the help.

Man that is a tough one! I don't want to say DC's is wrong, or ours is wrong either. Might just come down to where and how the mic is placed etc.

I can say the system is mellow, and NOT loud or harsh (like the EVO 8/9 cars) and my wife and kids can ride in it and not be annoyed. Yet I can roll the window down and enjoy the sound of performance (again without setting off car alarms or alerting the local police)

Maybe some other clients can chime in with their unbiased opinions as well!

Let me know if I can help further!

Which video did you hear of mine? The one on the dyno or the other one? The exhaust is really not that loud. It is louder than stock and definitely at wide open throttle, but I also have downpipe with HFC. The performance is definitely worth it. I cannot deniy that specialty is is great looking as well, but I am a extremely satisfied customer.

I heard a couple of yours sandman. The dyno video is kind of washed out by the sound of the rollers though. Also Sandman, is your exhaust polished or not? It doesn't look polished in your videos. If your family can ride in your car and not complain, then maybe your system is for me. Oh, will this system pass emissions? Seb at SX told me that his high flow cat would likely not. You have two in your system I believe. I'm in PA, so they test annually. Thanks guys. Might have to take advantage of that Valentine's sale!

I heard a couple of yours sandman. The dyno video is kind of washed out by the sound of the rollers though. Also Sandman, is your exhaust polished or not? It doesn't look polished in your videos. If your family can ride in your car and not complain, then maybe your system is for me. Oh, will this system pass emissions? Seb at SX told me that his high flow cat would likely not. You have two in your system I believe. I'm in PA, so they test annually. Thanks guys. Might have to take advantage of that Valentine's sale!

To start off there is only one cat on the downpipe in the final production model. I am also betting it would not pass emsions, but I doubt any high flow cat will with stringent testing. The exhaust is not loud, and you tube videos really do not give you an idea of how it sounds. At idle it sounds really low and barely louder than stock. Its a louder on acceleration, but not really louder at crusing just a deeper sound. To gain good performance its going to be a little louder just due to better flow. My tips are polished its just with all my pics and pics on the dyno the weather was awful and they are caked with grime. I do not think the tips are as pretty as the specialty X once or the new borla, but they are nice and fit the back of the car well. My kids have never been in my car cause they are not allowed lol. Me and the wife use my car for date night and other than her hating the car she doesnt mind the new exhaust note. I will say I love t hear the car just idle now.

I hope this is ok to post this here.
I made a short video of the exhaust from my Evo X. I am using the stock cat.
It was very cold outside when I made this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOEV8oQuiYE
I took out my Radio Shack SPL meter and I got 84db from idle (from 5 feet from the car).

can I order the stage 2 package w/the stealth catback option?

can I order the stage 2 package w/the stealth catback option?

YES!

PM me and I will handle it for you!

I hope this is ok to post this here.
I made a short video of the exhaust from my Evo X. I am using the stock cat.
It was very cold outside when I made this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOEV8oQuiYE
I took out my Radio Shack SPL meter and I got 84db from idle (from 5 feet from the car).

GREAT video! Thank you for posting it!

I hope this is ok to post this here.
I made a short video of the exhaust from my Evo X. I am using the stock cat.
It was very cold outside when I made this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOEV8oQuiYE
I took out my Radio Shack SPL meter and I got 84db from idle (from 5 feet from the car).

I noticed that your car after you rev does not have the throttle/rev hang that the EVO X is notorious for. Anyone else notice that or just me. If I was revving my car like that the revs would hang before they came back down.

are you going to make a dp/tp that is catless?

are you going to make a dp/tp that is catless?

Thanks for asking. We do not manufacture catless upgrades. With catalyst technology coming so far in recent years, there really isn't a performance gain in doing so.

Thanks again for asking and let us know if we can help in anyway further!

I ordered the Accessport from you guys last week with stage 1, 93 oct. The Car is stock accept for a perrin panel air filter. Will this be okay to run with your stage 1.

What happened to this heat shield that was getting all hyped up?

I have the Access Port, but when i upload the Stage 1 Perrin map i'm not able to monitor. Is there an update for the Perrin Map? Access Port is up to date.

I ordered the Accessport from you guys last week with stage 1, 93 oct. The Car is stock accept for a perrin panel air filter. Will this be okay to run with your stage 1.

Our map is OK to run on our panel filter. It does change things a little, but not enough so you need a different map, thanks!

I have the Access Port, but when i upload the Stage 1 Perrin map i'm not able to monitor. Is there an update for the Perrin Map? Access Port is up to date.

I should have sent you a new version of our map last month. Did you reflash the car with that map? Otherwise, it still won't work.

I have a question about the Access Port. If I were to flash the ECU with the Perrin Stage 1 EVO X w/93 octane map and then later flash it back to stock map, would the dealership know I did this? Does the ECU log the info or alter the checksum or whatever it called? Thanks.

I have a question about the Access Port. If I were to flash the ECU with the Perrin Stage 1 EVO X w/93 octane map and then later flash it back to stock map, would the dealership know I did this? Does the ECU log the info or alter the checksum or whatever it called? Thanks.
no one has found anyting that says they would know, and we have yet to hear of a waranty getting denied due to flashing, not sure if you'll get a better answer.

if your truely worried about your warranty of course the safest route is to stay stock.


With catalyst technology coming so far in recent years, there really isn't a performance gain in doing so.


orly?

I beg to differ, there have been proven gains by multiple venders over stock, and over "high flow" cats.



how about an Axle back exhaust, plan on making anything that will hook up to the stock pipes but replace the horrible stock muffler?

how about an Axle back exhaust, plan on making anything that will hook up to the stock pipes but replace the horrible stock muffler?


They have one? Check their website out....

no one has found anyting that says they would know, and we have yet to hear of a waranty getting denied due to flashing, not sure if you'll get a better answer.

if your truely worried about your warranty of course the safest route is to stay stock.




orly?

I beg to differ, there have been proven gains by multiple venders over stock, and over "high flow" cats.



how about an Axle back exhaust, plan on making anything that will hook up to the stock pipes but replace the horrible stock muffler?

With our testing, we have found that on a STi, we could get over 400 whp with our dual cat setup! It would be safe to say that our cats will not restrict the exhaust to cause you to lose power.

Also as of right now we aren't planning on making just an axle back exhaust for the EVO X, just the cat back. Thanks!

What happened to this heat shield that was getting all hyped up?

bump

Our map is OK to run on our panel filter. It does change things a little, but not enough so you need a different map, thanks!

i talked to u earlier on the phone, lol

anyways, changes things a little in a good way, bad way, or what?

i talked to u earlier on the phone, lol

anyways, changes things a little in a good way, bad way, or what?

It makes the car run a tiny bit leaner, but not enough that it's going to do damage, or need a new map.

Do you guys have any intercooler piping in the works? I think someone has asked this before but I can't find it. Thanks.

Do you guys have any intercooler piping in the works? I think someone has asked this before but I can't find it. Thanks.

Thanks for asking! Jeff and Chris are working on that product right now! I will have them pop in here and update everyone ASAP!

Thanks again!

Hey adam... pm for that package i pm'd ya about... looking to pick up an AP :)

Hey adam... pm for that package i pm'd ya about... looking to pick up an AP :)

Got it! Check your PM's!

Hi Perrin guys,

I have been on your stage 2 map for about a week now, and got a cat inefficiency CEL yesterday, which you guys are already helping me with (thanks). I don't know if it happened simultaneously or not, but my boost only seems to be peaking at 23 psi now and the car seems to be running a bit richer (mid to low 10's A/F). Obviously the car feels a bit slower. Do you think this is just a result of the ECU learning or what? The car felt unbelievable right after the TBE went on, but it seems to have changed a lot. I have stock everything except for the TBE. Thanks for any advice you can offer!

Heat shield?

Hey guys, can i run a catback exhaust with your Stage 1 AP map??? I only have a drop in filter, and i would like to add a catback to change the sound a bit. Thanks.

Lester, that does seem a little low. I wouldn't trust the AF readings on the AP. If you send me a datalog accelerating from 2000 RPM all the way to redline if you can in 3rd gear, I can have Jeff check it out for you. My e mail is maps@perrinperformance.com. Thanks!

Hey guys, can i run a catback exhaust with your Stage 1 AP map??? I only have a drop in filter, and i would like to add a catback to change the sound a bit. Thanks.

Yes you can, you can only run the stage 2 map on a car with the turbo back exhaust, thanks!

Hi Chris,

I have a wideband installed in the car - that is where I'm getting the A/F's. They've been getting richer as the days go by. I will datalog tomorrow after work for sure. I am hitting about 19 - 20 psi peak in 2nd gear and 23 in 3rd and 4th for some reason. My car does not seem to be experiencing any knock issues and I definitely have been getting a more robust smoke cloud in my rearview as time goes on. My boost was hitting 25-26 psi at peak two days ago. Weird! Maybe I should reset the ECU? Thanks for the quick response as usual. You guys have been great. I plan to have a 100% Perrin Evo!

Hey guys, can i run a catback exhaust with your Stage 1 AP map??? I only have a drop in filter, and i would like to add a catback to change the sound a bit. Thanks.

Yes you can, you can only run the stage 2 map on a car with the turbo back exhaust, thanks!

With the Stage 1 map, can you use the K&N or Works Drop-in filter along with the catback exhaust?

With the Stage 1 map, can you use the K&N or Works Drop-in filter along with the catback exhaust?

Thanks for asking! I happened to be checking things so wanted to reply, but I need to check with PERRIN_Chris to be sure but I think you are fine with either choice and our Stage one mapping. If you order the map, Chris will contact you via phone before sending it out to confirm everything.

Hope that helps! Thanks again!

With the Stage 1 map, can you use the K&N or Works Drop-in filter along with the catback exhaust?

Actually I had a customer see that his Works filter was giving him more knock correction than with the stock filter would, so I wouldn't recommend that filter with our maps. But the PERRIN and K&N filter seem to be OK and don't need a specific map. Thanks!

Actually I had a customer see that his Works filter was giving him more knock correction than with the stock filter would, so I wouldn't recommend that filter with our maps. But the PERRIN and K&N filter seem to be OK and don't need a specific map. Thanks!


wow surprising but good info.

Thanks

Actually I had a customer see that his Works filter was giving him more knock correction than with the stock filter would, so I wouldn't recommend that filter with our maps. But the PERRIN and K&N filter seem to be OK and don't need a specific map. Thanks!

sweet. i will be getting it very soon.

how about just using a test pipe and k&n filter with the stage 1 tune?

You can use a test pipe to replace the cat with a K&N, and use the stage 1 map. You will only use the stage 2 map if you do a complete turbo back exhaust.

i've had my perrin mbc for a few now and i'm finally gonna install it tonight.
Question? what is the (psi)spring pressure set at when you guys ship it out

I have a cobb AP. How would I go about getting your Stage1 map?

Actually I had a customer see that his Works filter was giving him more knock correction than with the stock filter would, so I wouldn't recommend that filter with our maps. But the PERRIN and K&N filter seem to be OK and don't need a specific map. Thanks!

Sorry if this was repeated before. I would like to be 100% sure if I got this right.

Using the Cobb Ap, I would have no issues with using the K&N Drop-in Filter with the Perrin Stage 1 map, Perrin Catback exhaust and stock cat.

That is what I was told also is that its cool to run perrin stage 1 with their drop in or k&n drop in with cat back.

Perrin,

I am sure I'll get flamed for this, but I have slightly different goals.

I am considering your cat back exhaust and like the sound I have heard on-line. I have also heard that cutting or removing the spot weld on the cat'e heat shield is neccessary for install.

If I purchase an exhaust I want it to be 100% reversible with no signs of it ever being installed.

Do you / can you make this exhaust with a 2.5" flange to eliminate the need to modify the cat's heatshield?

Perrin,

I am sure I'll get flamed for this, but I have slightly different goals.

I am considering your cat back exhaust and like the sound I have heard on-line. I have also heard that cutting or removing the spot weld on the cat'e heat shield is neccessary for install.

If I purchase an exhaust I want it to be 100% reversible with no signs of it ever being installed.

Do you / can you make this exhaust with a 2.5" flange to eliminate the need to modify the cat's heatshield?

just go to an exhaust shop and have one welded on.

You can use a test pipe to replace the cat with a K&N, and use the stage 1 map. You will only use the stage 2 map if you do a complete turbo back exhaust.

will i pick up any power by doing this or is it really tuned for stock filter and cat?

Sorry if this was repeated before. I would like to be 100% sure if I got this right.

Using the Cobb Ap, I would have no issues with using the K&N Drop-in Filter with the Perrin Stage 1 map, Perrin Catback exhaust and stock cat.

Yes, you will be OK to run the K&M panel filter with our map. I haven't heard from any of my customers with more than normal knock correction with that panel filter.

If you do decide to change it back to stock later on, you can have a new spot weld made, but we don't make our exhaust in a different way so you don't have to modify that heat shield, sorry!

Perrin,

I am sure I'll get flamed for this, but I have slightly different goals.

I am considering your cat back exhaust and like the sound I have heard on-line. I have also heard that cutting or removing the spot weld on the cat'e heat shield is neccessary for install.

If I purchase an exhaust I want it to be 100% reversible with no signs of it ever being installed.

Do you / can you make this exhaust with a 2.5" flange to eliminate the need to modify the cat's heatshield?

will i pick up any power by doing this or is it really tuned for stock filter and cat?

You will get good power out of doing that, but it is best to replace the whole catback for the most power.

When you guys were developing the MR stage 1 map, did you see any output differences on the dyno depending on what setting the transmission was in (Normal, Sport, S-Sport)?

The MR actually makes the same power in all of the different settings, it's mostly throttle response that is different to make the car feel faster. Thanks!

I'm guessing you guys stopped working on a heat shield for the X?

The MR actually makes the same power in all of the different settings, it's mostly throttle response that is different to make the car feel faster. Thanks!
Good to know thanks! :)

I'm guessing you guys stopped working on a heat shield for the X?


I just spoke to Jeff about this a minute ago, and we were working on this last summer, and it is on hold for now. But it is something that we are planning on making. I'm just not sure when it will be ready for production though, sorry!

I just spoke to Jeff about this a minute ago, and we were working on this last summer, and it is on hold for now. But it is something that we are planning on making. I'm just not sure when it will be ready for production though, sorry!

:(

I'll go bug Jeff again about it, I know you guys are waiting for it!

if i have an exhaust and test pipe but stock dp can i use the stage 2 or is it nessicary to have the dp?

Jeff,

For your AP Maps.... do you have any for high altitude drivers like myself in Denver that are practically forced to run 91 octane?


bump - looks like this question was not answered

Sorry guys, for some reason I don't get notifications from EVOX.

Farred, you can only run a stage 2 map if you have a full turbo back exhaust, including the downpipe. Doing a cat delete and cat back will add power to a stage 1 map though.

CO guys, our maps will work in high elevation, but if you have any overboosting issues, we can make small changes in the maps and e mail them out to you quickly.

how would dropping in a kn air filter affect stage 1 map? would it make it worse?

Crusher,

You can add a K&N filter with one of our maps. It will change things a little, but not enough to need another map. Just don't do the Works filter. Thanks!

any eta on when the turbo manifold heat shield will be ready?

Perrin guys,

Been looking at your downpipe and could not really tell from the pictures if you guys had an extra bung welded on for a wideband or is that somethiing that I can tell you and can make for me upon request.
This is gonna be the next mod for the x so any help here would be appreciated. thanks guys!!!

I cant believe perrin dicontinued the stealth exhaust wtf. I had ordered it saturday , and it took till today for me to find out after waiting to receive confirmation for 4 days and I had to call them and find out. This is total BS talk about a waste of my time waiting. When and why is this discontinued and when will it be produced again if at all.:rant:

I cant believe perrin dicontinued the stealth exhaust wtf. I had ordered it saturday , and it took till today for me to find out after waiting to receive confirmation for 4 days and I had to call them and find out. This is total BS talk about a waste of my time waiting. When and why is this discontinued and when will it be produced again if at all.:rant:

Hey thanks for the business! The part isn't discontinued, just on backorder. It might be a bit for them to be available again, but you can still get one. PM me your details and I will see what I can do to help you.

Thank you!

Are you guys open on weekends? Im flying back to Oregon to introduce the Fiance to the family and was thinking of swinging by since I will be staying in Lake O with some friends.

Hello,

Good question. Currently we are not open on weekends but we are here most Saturdays working on our own cars and toys. Give us a call or PM here and let us know when you want to come in and we will make sure we open the door for you.



Are you guys open on weekends? Im flying back to Oregon to introduce the Fiance to the family and was thinking of swinging by since I will be staying in Lake O with some friends.

Adam anymore info or eta date on the turbo manifold heatshield?

Crusher,

You can add a K&N filter with one of our maps. It will change things a little, but not enough to need another map. Just don't do the Works filter. Thanks!


Would the Perrin Panel filter change things a bit too?
I am thinking about picking up one instead of the K&N drop-in I am currently using.

The PERRIN drop in filter will be OK for our maps and the stock maps too. It will be similar to the K&N, where it will make a small change, but is safe! Plus our filter does a better job at filtering out dirt than the K&N ever will! Thanks!

Thanks for the new parts! I love them all!

Link to review: http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=162119

Thanks Turbo! We appreciate the business and the support!

Anytime! Pleasure doing business with you. I'll be calling you guys for the Perrin 3-Port EBCS when i go get a protune.

Marko

Can you use the perrin stage 1 map with a catback exhaust, turbo inlet pipe and an uicp without any a/f problems.

I asked the exact same question already through E-mail and was told that those will not affect A/F much and will work fine with Perrin stage 1 map.

Sami, you're right. Since the changes are done after the MAF, you are OK running our stage 1 map with an aftermarket inlet pipe and intercooler pipes.

We DO. I don't have a link to the results. I will have Jeff post that up shortly.


Adam,

I have been looking high and low for gains that your complete stage 2 gains over stock. If you had an article (much like your stage 1 article) that would be very useful to prospective buyers.

Thanks

We don't have any stage 2 dyno sheets up currently, but we do have a stage 3 dyno sheet here: http://perrinperformance.com/products/show/540/Intercooler-Stealth-Black?category=39&model=26

Crusher,

You can add a K&N filter with one of our maps. It will change things a little, but not enough to need another map. Just don't do the Works filter. Thanks!

Hi Jeff,

I puchased the AP from you guys with the stage 1 93 oct, I have a ITG panel filter and everything else is stock. Should I do a datalog and send to you for verification just to make sure all the parameters are okay.

I just need your help on how doing the datalog.

thanks-you very much for your amazing customer service

Users of the Stage 1 map that did the fuel pump relay swap to the green one, do we need to worry about anything? Have you checked into if there are serious differences that affects the tune intended for the original black relay vs the green one? Will you provide an updated map if so?

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17957&page=20

Swedemix,

I'm going to have Jeff take a look at that thread and let you know what he thinks, thanks!

Swedemix,

Jeff told me that you should be fine if you replace the relay to another one, since as long as the relay is working, it should work just like the original one and won't need a change in the tune, thanks!

any word on that IC piping?

Any word on the heat shield they have been working on forever? Looks like R&D has stopped...

Hey Chris, I was wondering if you had any more news or ideas about the Perrin Stage 3 Map that I have.

Thanks, Jason Moyers

any word on that IC piping?

We are actually working on that! Jeff has been doing some prototyping in the last few weeks! We don't have a date that they'll be ready for production yet though.

Any word on the heat shield they have been working on forever? Looks like R&D has stopped...

We have been searching for a way to make them look pretty, and recently have found a way to do this! Expect this to be ready in the next several months!

Hey Chris, I was wondering if you had any more news or ideas about the Perrin Stage 3 Map that I have.

Thanks, Jason Moyers

Jason,

I spoke to Jeff about this, and he actually would like to get a back to back datalog with our map compared to the COBB map. If you could do the log on the same road in the same gear, and send that to me, that will actually be the best. It could be that COBB tweaked their maps a little, and we need to do a little more tweaking too. Thanks!

That will be great Chris. I will make the logs tomorrow when my wife sends me to the store to get things for thanksgiving that she forgot.

I hope this is not a newb question but I just put your catback on my 2008 MR and I have just a cosworth drop in as my only other mod (aside from your rear sway ;)) I just installed the catback today and I am getting moderate backfire now is this something to be concerned about or just normal??

Also the exhaust looks crooked (Yaw and Roll), I am assuming I just need to swivel the short pipe to fix this?

I hate having other people work on my car grrrr. I love love the sound though and almost no noise at cruise until you unleash the beast.

Wicked,

That is normal! That happens with the stock exhaust too, but since it's so quiet, you can't hear it very well.

There's a lot of adjustment that can be done with that exhaust, you'll want to loosten up the connections at the v bands to take care of the mis alignments, thanks!

Ok, I figured it was normal, just wanted to be sure.I am such a fan of your products and being a Aerospace QA Manager myself I recognize the high quality product Perrin produces. Thanks for the response.

Any updates on FMIC piping?

thanks!

Also the exhaust looks crooked (Yaw and Roll), I am assuming I just need to swivel the short pipe to fix this?

I hate having other people work on my car grrrr. I love love the sound though and almost no noise at cruise until you unleash the beast.

Near my house they're doing some construction on a bridge that goes over I-95 in my area, and they have jersey barriers on either side of the little 1-lane road that they left open...all windows down, cruising in 3rd and dropping to 2nd, the acoustics are so sweet it's practically unholy. Every time I hear it I have 100% confidence in my choice of exhaust. :)

Near my house they're doing some construction on a bridge that goes over I-95 in my area, and they have jersey barriers on either side of the little 1-lane road that they left open...all windows down, cruising in 3rd and dropping to 2nd, the acoustics are so sweet it's practically unholy. Every time I hear it I have 100% confidence in my choice of exhaust. :)

right on brother! jersey barriers, underpasses, and tunnels are way too tempting for me also. i kind of miss my trucks with the side exhaust. i could use any vehicle next to me for the same purpose. the evo sings a beautiful song of its own.

Any updates on FMIC piping?

thanks!


Dave,

That's something that we're still working on getting made. It's a process from getting a prototype made to getting a final product, thanks for your patience!



Ttsumibishi, I know what you're talking about!!:D

Dave,

That's something that we're still working on getting made. It's a process from getting a prototype made to getting a final product, thanks for your patience!



Awesome, looking forward to the release:rock:

Hey guys,

looking at picking up the Stage 2 kit on the website, wondering if theres anyway i can get the coupon deal you got going but with a stealth black instead of the SS for the turbo back. PM or let me know.

Thanks

JD

i need an air filter cleaner for perrin .. UNI filter cleaning kit.. can i get it 4 free shipping heheh .

I have a few questions with the stage 2 and stage 3. Pm'd you

Hey guys,

looking at picking up the Stage 2 kit on the website, wondering if theres anyway i can get the coupon deal you got going but with a stealth black instead of the SS for the turbo back. PM or let me know.

Thanks

JD

PM sent!


niperWolF(+);434767']i need an air filter cleaner for perrin .. UNI filter cleaning kit.. can i get it 4 free shipping heheh .

Sorry, no free shipping, but shipping should only be around $5-7, thanks!

Hey Chris,

Any ETA on the intercooler piping yet? Back in January you guys were still prototyping, etc. for release. Anything new?

Thanks,
Dave

Dave,

It's still not ready for production yet, and I don't have an ETA at this point, sorry!

Dave,

It's still not ready for production yet, and I don't have an ETA at this point, sorry!

Ugh, ok, I'll keep waiting then.

Hey guys my question is about paypal, I was going to purchase from you last week but my paypal is Canadian, it is verified but your site would not let me use paypal, can anything be done?

Hey guys my question is about paypal, I was going to purchase from you last week but my paypal is Canadian, it is verified but your site would not let me use paypal, can anything be done?

Morning,

Thanks for asking! Yes we can work with you on that. Simply e-mail Christina.Barlow@PERRINPerformance.com and she can help with all aspects of an international order.

Thanks in advance for the business!

Adam

Hey Adam, are the drop-ins still going for 41$?

The $41 is still going on as of this minute on the website here (http://perrinperformance.com/products/show/542), but we're going to change it soon. If it's already changed by the time you want to place the order, just give us a call to order it up, thanks!

Thanks Chris...ordering now :)

Thanks for the response, I'll do that.

I need your absolute best price shipped on a polished Perrin turboback to 27401. Sales pricing, whatever...I'm shopping for the absolute best price from any vendor right now.

I'd like to stick with 100% Perrin for my car's power parts.

Thanks guys,
Dave

Just ordered a polished Perrin turboback for my car. Can't wait to slap it on, thanks guys :)

Best price for H&R spring ship to 90703.. Thank's

Could you give me info on ur stage 1 AP map.... how much it is and gains over the cobb stage one and is it sent via email?

KARo7 PM sent!

Best price for your Perrin Front mount 10977

Just want to say, CUSTOMER SERVICE ROCKS, you guys were great in answering questions and resending forggot stuff. Anyone considering Perrin products, i highly reccomend them :yay:

Best price for your Perrin Front mount 10977

PM Sent, Thanks so much.

Just want to say, CUSTOMER SERVICE ROCKS, you guys were great in answering questions and resending forggot stuff. Anyone considering Perrin products, i highly reccomend them :yay:

Thank you! :yay:

KARo7 PM sent!
Ditto on the Excellent Service to Chris!!
I'm the one with newly installed Perrin front mount with the boost questions!
Btw... talking about forgotten stuff, is the front mount supposed to come with a vinyl template to spray the Perrin logo? It's not in the box..
Not a real problem... but I thought I'd give u guys free advertising in Singapore, if you don't mind sending it to me...:thumbup: