As most of the old school people know I already have a track only Evo so I don't need to have the absolute most potential from my 2008 daily driven Evo with 28k miles. I chose not to have a wideband installed with my E85 upgrade to keep things stealth looking which Bryan also said he would give me his ultra conservative tune. Boost peak is 27 psi falling to 24.5 PSI at 7700 Rpms (car would get grumpy with higher redline boost because of the stock exhaust). AFRs are 11.8.

The car absolutely screams in the high end and it's not much louder than stock. From the outside and even under the hood you would not be able to tell it was a 450-500 crank HP Evo in disguise (subjectively calculated). Overall I'm super happy with how everything turned out power wise with the car and being as factory as it is.

Thanks to GST and SpeedElement without you guys this would never be possible.

I will someday take it to the Drag Strip for Trap Speeds only. It will never be launched. Edit: Trap times posted!

Mods:
Nisei UICP
Nisei LICP
GST boost pill
BBX Turbo
DW 1500s injectors
BlaqOps Single pump kit
Bryan @ GST tune (E85 only)
No Wideband
No Map switching
Stock downpipe
Stock Cat
Stock catback
Stock Cams
Stock FMIC
Stock Clutch

All Dynos were done at GST by Bryan.

E85 Touch Up Tune results: 370 WHP / 285 WTQ
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Previous Stock Turbo 91 Tune Dyno: 295WHP/ 309 WTQ
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Factory Stock Dyno: (yes 9.X AFRs)
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Factory looking engine bay:
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best trap with no launch 117.463 Trap. my 60' was a nice and slow 2.925 :godance:

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Very linear...looks nice and smooth!

Congrats man.... love the stealthiness .... graph looks great...

I don't understand how the torque decreases on E85. When you say "conservative", how conservative do you mean? I'm hoping Bill O'Rilley conservative...

not a lot of parts for big powa I wish we has e85 up here my fp green would be a beast.

Awesome! Another Bay Area Beast! :rock:

Damn your car puts down as much power as my car does on 91 with half the performance parts. Goes to show how nice (as well as rewarding) E-85 is. Love how stealthy the underhood looks too. This is a true sleeper! :clap:

wow the stock cat and muffler allow that much power. " World record Evo X with stock exhaust" :dancebanana:

I don't understand how the torque decreases on E85. When you say "conservative", how conservative do you mean? I'm hoping Bill O'Rilley conservative...

i lost most of my peak torque because of the bigger turbo not because of E85. Bryan would have to chime in on how much more "conservative" this tune is compared to others who said they would run a wideband so they could monitor AFRs as he normally requires.

I don't understand how the torque decreases on E85. When you say "conservative", how conservative do you mean? I'm hoping Bill O'Rilley conservative...

Torque doesn't decrease on E85, in fact, just putting E85 in, no changes in the tune, other then injector scaling usually gains 20wtq just by itself.

You might be comparing two different turbos.

I'm not sure why the Evo 10 interweb keeps thinking that torque is so low on these larger turbos. Perhaps stop looking at the peak torque and look at the torque gain under the curve and notice the torque gain overall.

This tune wasn't much more conservative then other E85 tunes I have done. Other then less boost and less timing then other evos that usually have full opened up breathing and flow mods. I wouldn't really call it conservative, I would call it tuning it for what it likes.

The car is basically just a stock housing turbo upgrade, IC pipes, and fuel upgrades and it's making +170whp / +130wtq at 7000 rpm over stock.

- Bryan

Good job bryan I was actually thinking of going on the same route.

amazing gains with a total investment of $4.5k for IC pipes, Turbo, Fuel upgrades, Tune and all labor costs.

when did DW released their 1500cc's or Im i late in the power curve again :( man..

when did DW released their 1500cc's or Im i late in the power curve again :( man..

I was a beta tester

Perhaps stop looking at the peak torque and look at the torque gain under the curve and notice the torque gain overall.


That's exactly it. They look at the peak of the boost spike on the stock turbo (preferably on a high-reading dyno) and then tell you that their stock turbo on pump is faster than your upgraded turbo on E85. Oh, and your tuner must suck. :ghey:

I was a beta tester

awesome.. how will i ever get to be a beta tester :) anyhow.. im glad you showed different way to achieve your power needs... appreciate the concept...

Im happy that theres another route people can take to achieve hp's/tqs.. and totally not maxed out their Credit :) I will be Da Bay this summer.. Daly City:D

pick me up at San bruno?? :neener:

I'm not sure why the Evo 10 interweb keeps thinking that torque is so low on these larger turbos. Perhaps stop looking at the peak torque and look at the torque gain under the curve and notice the torque gain overall.



that is it right there man.....so many people get wrapped up around "peak" numbers.

While I can see the allure of doing a totally stealth car like this, the price of a good, quiet aftermarket exhaust is pretty damn negligible for the power you'd probably have gained.

wut clutch are you running?

That's exactly it. They look at the peak of the boost spoke on the stock turbo (preferably on a high-reading dyno) and then tell you that their stock turbo on pump is faster than your upgraded turbo on E85. Oh, and your tuner must suck. :ghey:

Man, ain't this the truth.

wut clutch are you running?

still on stock clutch

pick me up at San bruno?? :neener:

PM me around that time before you go, so I can find out if we can meet up.

Nice, similar to what I'm going for.

PM me around that time before you go, so I can find out if we can meet up.

:thumbup:

Hmm, feeling a bit attacked here. First, I was thinking stock turbo, I didn't catch the upgrade. Hence my question. I'm rather knowledgeable about engines, turbos specifically, and I understand the value in the shape of the curve.

On the contrary, I think GST is one of the best around, and sets the precedent for most everyone else. This furthered my confusion.

Now, I do agree with the general comments about people only valuing peak numbers.

Hmm, feeling a bit attacked here. First, I was thinking stock turbo, I didn't catch the upgrade.

You made a snarky comment without bothering to read the mod list and then wonder why people responded defensively? lol

It looks like you are tuned on a fairly high-reading dyno, which probably colors your view. 380 isn't possible on a Mustang/Dyno Dynamics on a stock turbo.

On the contrary, I think GST is one of the best around, and sets the precedent for most everyone else.GST is a tuner. They do what the customer asks them to do, within reason.

It looks like you are tuned on a fairly high-reading dyno, which probably colors your view. 380 isn't possible on a Mustang/Dyno Dynamics on a stock turbo.



We actually hit 380 on the stock turbo on E85 on one Evo 10. The norm is 360-370 though.

The really strong stock turbo Evo 9's can make 400 whp on the stock turbo, on E85.

- Bryan

^Damn those stock 9 turbos...so big.

Hmm, feeling a bit attacked here. First, I was thinking stock turbo, I didn't catch the upgrade. Hence my question. I'm rather knowledgeable about engines, turbos specifically, and I understand the value in the shape of the curve.

I didnt think your question was snarky or harsh ;) , I read it as a reasonable question. all good mate, dont take too much to heart.

great numbers OP.. we all wish we had a track car and a DD weapon like you for sure.. sigh.. one day.

^ Well thanks, glad someone else can recognize when someone makes a mistake.

Anyhow, didn't mean to steer this thread in another direction; congrats OP (and GST).

^ Well thanks, glad someone else can recognize when someone makes a mistake.

Anyhow, didn't mean to steer this thread in another direction; congrats OP (and GST).

don't worry about it, hopefully I can find time soon to get some 1/4 trap speeds. That should at least give a good benchmark to quell some skeptics of how fast the car really is.

We actually hit 380 on the stock turbo on E85 on one Evo 10.

Do you recall if that one had light wheels or stock? Can make a big difference when you're on the edge.

The really strong stock turbo Evo 9's can make 400 whp on the stock turbo, on E85.

They got us whipped on power and weight. The Reds can hit 530 on the local Dynojet with fairly light mods. I threw the kitchen sink at my car and my expectations aren't that high.

If you tuned on MAP's you would hit 550whp i am sure. Off topic though, lol, sorry OP.

Do you recall if that one had light wheels or stock? Can make a big difference when you're on the edge.


18" Rota Torques

- Bryan

Alright, that's what I'm talking about!

Great to see some good numbers and a happy car!

heading to Sacramento Raceway on the 26th before 5 pm and leaving around 6:30pm with my X. I plan on going for trap speed with no launch. I'm excited to get some benchmarks on the car to put up against the dyno numbers.

The really strong stock turbo Evo 9's can make 400 whp on the stock turbo, on E85.

i have a 9 with the stock turbo, and some bolt ons on e85, im at 378WHP on a low reading mustang dyno

i have a 9 with the stock turbo, and some bolt ons on e85, im at 378WHP on a low reading mustang dyno

Sounds about inline with what I have seen here as well. congrats on the random post. ;)

- Bryan

best trap with no launch 117.463 Trap. my 60' was a nice and slow 2.925 :godance:

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best time with no launch 117.463 Trap. my 60' was a nice and slow 2.925

I don't know much about drag racing. Is that good? Did you run it on stock turbo?

The trap is good enough for a mid-12 sec pass, but he'd have to knock a second off that 60'!

I don't know much about drag racing. Is that good? Did you run it on stock turbo?

I don't have my own stock turbo runs, but a guy on our local forum says he trapped 106mph with only 308 whp on the GST mustang with stock turbo, 91, tuned, etc.

The trap is good enough for a mid-12 sec pass, but he'd have to knock a second off that 60'!

That trap is good for a low 12 sec pass. ;)

Honestly with a hard launch that trap is good for an 11.8-11.9 easily imo

I know - back from the dead. Nice setup! What intake are you running? ...it looks like a black powdercoated hard pipe.