Rumor has it that the X is still being tweaked, and is now showing 325ft-lbs of torque with 315HP. If that's the case, I think a lot of people will be very happy. Only time will tell.

This is a question that I could easily find out and I'm sure I can guess right-on but what price range is this thing going to be?

prolly 34k - 36k.

I like the HP rumors though...

Which is totally affordable..*eye roll*

ARGH.

I was just guessing, but it will have to be a couple thousand more than the 9

Which is totally affordable..*eye roll*

ARGH.

If you can't afford the X, there's always the Ralliart.

I was thinking more around the $26k mark.

If you can't afford the X, there's always the GTO.


fixed.

I was just guessing, but it will have to be a couple thousand more than the 9

It's supposed to be in about the same ballpark.

fixed.

Actually, the goat is no more, so not really.

Also, :fail:

Well, new they are in the $30's but they depreciate rather quickly because they are lot-rats..

SO, give it some months and they drop rather drastically. (In my case, atleast)

i was reading an article earlier today and they said 300hp give or take 10hp and 300ft-lbs of torque.and the price said expected on the 40's that too damn much.instead of the 20" tires an 18 will come in its place.it would be better with 18 instead of 20 that will be too heavy for street use.

No way will these cars be in the 40's. At least not once the price is settled in.

315hp and 440NM torque
as you requested, its shows around 340 at the crank,
325 at wheels

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/lemmonevo9/evoXdyno342atcrank325atwheels.jpg

At 315 bhp (or even 310) I am in. The key $ issue is not what the sticker says but what the transaction price will be. No way any of the models sticker for more than $40k, but a loaded version might top out in the low 40s.

do you mean likean MR edition type Evo?

is this the one in other forum quoted in japanese mitshu site but nobody can interpret japanese to english or the leaked dyno vids but was taken out by mitshu on line for copyright issues???



Rumor has it that the X is still being tweaked, and is now showing 325ft-lbs of torque with 315HP. If that's the case, I think a lot of people will be very happy. Only time will tell.

315hp and 440NM torque

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/lemmonevo9/evoXdyno342atcrank325atwheels.jpg

If this is true and makes it to production, I'd be amazed. *crosses fingers*

At 315 bhp (or even 310) I am in. The key $ issue is not what the sticker says but what the transaction price will be. No way any of the models sticker for more than $40k, but a loaded version might top out in the low 40s.

Yeah, I'm thinking if you get it fully loaded it will hit $40K or so. But if you skimp on the options, $31K or so should be doable.

Yeah, but just like every other car, you can get it in two styles, with nothing, or with everything..

I guess we'll see.

Me - I'd like the NAV/MP3 player package along with the FAST system. I'd consider a sunroof as well.

What options are we talking about here? Fully loaded these things shouldn't not even hit 35k. Who are we kidding? I'd rather own a fully loaded IS250 and boost it.

I think the options are getting pretty plentiful on this one as opposed to the IX.

Nav, the FAST system, MP3 players, sunroof, the SST trans, leather, probably bigger wheels, etc. You know how dealers charge when it comes to options.

Yea but to me if your buying a new car (esp. in that price range) it should have all those options.

Nah, it's not really worth it to me.

Hell, you can get a new GTI that costs $30K.

Here in Australia they say the EVO X will be priced at $65-75000 AUS we really get ripped of on car prices .

Cheers
Michael

That looks like $50+K in USD. Ouch. I thought the exchange rate used to be about 1:2, but those days are long gone.

Originally Posted by jho0001
Got this from another forum...

Estimation arrival date nov-dec in Singapore
3 Models
RS 5MT
GSR 5MT
GSR TC-SST (twin clutch sst 6AT with padel shift)

Size.Weight
L - 4495mm
W - 1810mm
H - 1480mm
Wheel base - 2650mm
Front and rear - 1540mm
Weight
RS = 1420kg
GSR = 1520kg
GSR TC-SST = 1540kg

Engine
TYPE - 4B11MIVEC I/C/T/C
VALVE SYSTEM .No. of Cylinder - DOHC 16V INLINE 4 CYLINDER
Inside Diameter x operation - 86.0 x 86.0
Total Displacement - 1998cc
Compressure Ratio - 9 : 1
Max Power [NET] kW/rpm- 206[280PS]/6500
Max Torque (N.m/rpm - 422[43.0kg-fm]/3500
Fuel Supply Sytem - ECI-Multi (Electronic Control Injection)
Tank capacity
RS - 50
GSR/GST TC-SST - 55

Driving System
Steering - Rack and Pinion
Suspension
FRONT - MC PHERSON STRUT
REAR - MULTI LINK

Ventilated Disc Brake
RS -15" (front and rear)
GSR/GSR TC-SST - front 18" , rear 17"

Tire Size
RS - 205/60R16
GSR/GSR TC-SST - 245/40R18

DRIVELINE
RS/GSR 5MT
1st - 2.857
2nd - 1.950
3rd - 1.444
4th - 1.096
5th - 0.761
Reverse - 2
892
Final Recuced change gear ratio - 4.687

GSR 6 Speed Twin Clutch SST
1st - 3.655
2nd - 2.368
3rd - 1.754
4th - 1.322
5th - 1.008
6th - 0.775
Reverse - 4.011
Final Recuced change gear ratio - 4.062

So it appears as if there are going to be multiple trims of the X itself?

RS 5MT <--Base X
GSR 5MT <--upgraded X
GSR TC-SST (twin clutch sst 6AT with padel shift) <--GSR with the fancy trans

Man, gears 1-4 of the SST gear box are close. Should accelerate nicely.

As for weight, shouldn't be as bad as expected....

RS = 1420kg = 3130 lbs
GSR = 1,520 kg = 3,351 lbs
GSR TC-SST = 1540kg = 3,395 lbs

As for the power output of "280ps", that seems low.

However, 422 newton meter = 311 foot pounds. I can live with that.

18" front brakes on the GSRs? Good lord.


How reliable is your information?

Too many choices!!! All I know is that I want one of them. Any of them!

^Sell a car.

What options are we talking about here? Fully loaded these things shouldn't not even hit 35k. Who are we kidding? I'd rather own a fully loaded IS250 and boost it.

What the hell are you talking about dude??? A fully loaded IS250 is probably around $35k too, and it doesn't have anywhere near the performance of a EVO X, or any EVO at that and boosting it isn't cheap. Please don't make any more stupid comments.

^I think he was replying to the idea of a fully loaded X dipping into the $40K range. And if that were the case, he'd be right - a $25K IS250 + a $5K turbo setup would cost about the same.

Again, prices on the X are all speculation, but he was just making a point.

Welcome to the forums.

What the hell are you talking about dude??? A fully loaded IS250 is probably around $35k too, and it doesn't have anywhere near the performance of a EVO X, or any EVO at that and boosting it isn't cheap. Please don't make any more stupid comments.

^I think he was replying to the idea of a fully loaded X dipping into the $40K range. And if that were the case, he'd be right - a $25K IS250 + a $5K turbo setup would cost about the same.

Again, prices on the X are all speculation, but he was just making a point.

Welcome to the forums.

Exactly.

Lexus > Mitsubishi

Welcome to the forum.

Those cars are rather different and would have two very different customers. I can't see the EVO X going into the $40s it has to stay competitive with the Subby Sti and that would push it right out of the class it and Subby own. Plus since Mitsu is going after the base WRX with the Ralliart Lancer, 40 grand would be insane MR or not...

Those cars are rather different and would have two very different customers. I can't see the EVO X going into the $40s it has to stay competitive with the Subby Sti and that would push it right out of the class it and Subby own.

Valid point. OTOH, I know how car companies love to overprice options.

Plus since Mitsu is going after the base WRX with the Ralliart Lancer, 40 grand would be insane MR or not...


Agreed. Let's hope they're mid 30's at most.

[QUOTE=Kooldino;6756]Valid point. OTOH, I know how car companies love to overprice options.

I can see that... some companies do go crazy but I like to think Mitsu knows better cause Subaru would never push the STi into the 40s and when there is a car that mimicks yours so closily pricing is important. I personally don't plan on gettin a bunch of options since I plan on personlizing the hell out of it.

Yeah, I'll likely do the same. I'll get the options that count though.

I remember when I was going back and forth between my car (Mazda MP3) and the '02 WRX, I kept building a WRX for myself on their website.

There were options that Subaru would list that wouldn't even make sense, price-wise.

For instance, the extended arm rest was like $400.

To upgrae from 16" wheels to 17" wheels, it was in the $2K ballpark...which is exactly what that same wheel and tire package would cost from tirerack. The downside is, if you got it from tirerack, you'd be able to keep your stockers. So basically, Subaru gave you no credit for your stock wheels, and charged you full price for the wheel upgrade.

Hopefully, mitsu doesn't work the same way. I <3 the "nicer" wheels available for the X (see my avatar), and I'll pay extra for them, but I won't dare overpay in the Subaru fashion.

I've already begun lookin for rims so I most likely won't be keeping the stock ones long. I started when I saw the ones on the Official pics released by Mitsu, didn't like those much. I like the ones on the prototype x though

Exactly.

Lexus > Mitsubishi

Welcome to the forum.

Oh so now we are comparing high end luxury brands to lowly Mitsubishi:rolleyes:

I thought you were talking about the IS250 (LOL) vs. the EVO. Ok when Toyota/Lexus makes an AWD vehicle, that can do low 13s/high 12s stock, weigh under 3400Lbs, handle like a $60,000 Porsche, stop on a dime, and price it under $35,000 like a EVO IX then I will be impressed. Look so many people want EVO like performance and Lexus luxury and then want it to cost under $35,000, sorry can't always have your cake and eat it too. You have to compromise somewhere and that is what Mitsubishi does with the EVO. Does that mean the EVO is a better car than a IS250/IS350 or vice versa, NO, just means that the two cars have their focus else where. I truly hope that somebody who is interested in a EVO IX/EVO X isn't cross shopping it with anything Lexus.

I understand your point, but again, Win was just pointing out that if a loaded X came in at $41K or so, it would be priced out of it's own market.

Awe, our first forum argument. Kooooooot.

haha i actually was the one with the 40k mark on the x.as said before the dealers will jack the price on the x just tomake xtra.if ya'll been paying attention most cars now 27 and up.hell even the low low end cars are in the 18 and thats alot for a crappy car.i'm not comparing any car to the x.in the mitsu dealer here will be charging a restocking fee of 8k so if the x is 37 then in the end will be paying close to 50.thats BS all the way i say shop around in the dealers before making a decision.one dealer will have what others dont and make it look like they are the only ones that have a good deal.dont be fooled.

I understand your point, but again, Win was just pointing out that if a loaded X came in at $41K or so, it would be priced out of it's own market.

Bingo. I think your reaching into a different ballpark going above 40k. At that price yes I want my cake and I want to eat it too.

most of the sites like car and driver and new autos and some i cant remember said were to estimate at 40 or very close to that.

Wud any1 know why the SST is not offred in the RS version (even as an option) as the RS is usually used for rallying & circuit.

The SST wud be quicker than the conventional “H” pattern box. Cud it be reliability issues with SST when it comes to competition?

Well, this is just speculation, but my guess is that they're trying to sell the SST gear box as a "high end option", and I think they are trying to get people to pay for the GSR model in order to have that trans available. Again, just speculation.

I wouldn't doubt that they would potentially offer the transmission in an RS-like trim eventually though.

Welcome to the forums!

Wud any1 know why the SST is not offred in the RS version (even as an option) as the RS is usually used for rallying & circuit.

The SST wud be quicker than the conventional “H” pattern box. Cud it be reliability issues with SST when it comes to competition?

The link below is pretty informative with regards to the gearboxes used in the WRC.

http://www.wrc.com/page/WRCAnalysis/0,,10111~658434,00.html

Well, this is just speculation, but my guess is that they're trying to sell the SST gear box as a "high end option", and I think they are trying to get people to pay for the GSR model in order to have that trans available. Again, just speculation.

I wouldn't doubt that they would potentially offer the transmission in an RS-like trim eventually though.

Welcome to the forums!

Thnx for input. Also heard today that SST is not offered in RS due to a Homologation issue with the FIA. These are all speculations…..

Think that if the FIA part is sorted we might see SST in RS version later into 2008….. and that would be really good news for rally and circuit race drivers…..