Hey guys,

Most probably know that I have continuously criticized the clutch action in the new X. I have finally taken the car to my local dealer and they didn't even test drive it. They stated that this is the third X with the same symptoms:

Draging clutch: You can feel this by having the car on a flat surface, letting it idle with your foot off the clutch pedal. Then quickly push in the clutch pedal and put the shifter into first...the car will lurch forward 1-2", you can also hear a faint clunk as the drivetrain is enagaged. I also tested this on a buddies X with 400 miles on it.

Crunchy gear selection of 2nd and 3rd.

The technician contacted the Mitsu tech line and was on the phone for about 30mins, when he came out I asked what they thought. He stated, I am ordering you a new Pressure plate/clutch disc, and flywheel.

I immediately asked, what are they sending, the same model or has it been revised in some way? He stated that it is the same model clutch with no revision.

So here is my question, I am scheduled to have this work done on the car, It has 3200 miles on her, should I allow this work to take place knowing that the same clutch will most likely has the same results?

Go for it. What's the worst that can happen... it happens again w/the new/same model clutch, right? So, if it happens again, take it back to the dealer & they'll hopefully order a different one. People are a lot more lenient, if you try everything in your power to fix the problem. If this is in fact an issue for many Xs, Mitsu will (should) have to replace all clutches in all Evos, so we need more people like you to show Mitsu that it is a defective clutch model. Mitsu dealer can't hate you for trying their suggestion. It will at least fix your problem temporarily, under warranty, free of charge... better than nothing.

My concern is that the car will be ripped apart to replace the clutch/flywheel with the same damn unit. My clutch and FW are not damaged. I believe it is a clutch design flaw, so putting in the same unit kind of defeats the purpose. I guess there is a possiblility that there was a bad batch of clutches from the factory though.

So would you let the dealer tear the car apart and replace the clutch/flywheel with the stock unit on a car with only 3200 miles?

I am concerned a bolt will be lost, a clamp won't be secured, something will get stripped...etc...etc..etc

I understand your worries, but the dealer is liable. I would let them do take out whatever it is they need to & replace the clutch. Trial & error w/the new clutch, it has to be done if you want it to be fixed under warranty. Like you said, it could just be a bad batch. I doubt that it will be under warranty if you wanted to get a different clutch installed w/o trying this one first.

Yeah, let them do it. They are liable for any damage and if that doesn't fix the problem then they have already admitted that it is a problem and mitsu will have to do something, which could mean a new clutch. lastly you'll have a clutch that will last you an extra 3200miles if nothing else...

keep your fingers crossed guys,

She's going in tonight for the clutch replacement!

Good luck! I have a little over 600 miles on mine and I fear I will need a clutch replacement as well. I'll have to try the clutch drag, but the crunchy gear selection in 2nd and 3rd is something I noticed almost immediatley. I also noticed when down shifting the gears will be a bit stubborn sometimes. We'll have to see how it goes after I can get some more miles on her. Let us know how it goes.

Ok so I know things have been fairly mature on here and I don't mean any offence to anyone but

LRN2CLUTCH!

I am happy to hear that your issues are being addressed! I think you should let the techs do what they feel is the right thing. It could be that this is a manufacturing issue, and not a clutch issue. What I mean by this, is that the problem may go away with a new clutch, even though its the same. It could be that the components are being improperly installed at the factory.

I will have to try out your test procedure and see what happens on my vehicle.

Guys,

I called to check the status of the car today and was told that the clutch replacement was cancelled.

The dealership recieved some type of TSB or something today (dated and released today) that they are not to service ANY Evo X's with shifting issues. The TSB/letter stated that they are aware of a hard shifting issue, especially when cold, and they are working on releasing a new tranny fluid to resolve the issue.

I asked about the clutch draging and they stated, they have to try the fluid change first, WHEN IT"S RELEASED. I wonder how ong that will take.

So there you have it folks....apparently mitsu is aware. I will try to get more info.

Guys,

I called to check the status of the car today and was told that the clutch replacement was cancelled.

The dealership recieved some type of TSB or something today (dated and released today) that they are not to service ANY Evo X's with shifting issues. The TSB/letter stated that they are aware of a hard shifting issue, especially when cold, and they are working on releasing a new tranny fluid to resolve the issue.

I asked about the clutch draging and they stated, they have to try the fluid change first, WHEN IT"S RELEASED. I wonder how ong that will take.

So there you have it folks....apparently mitsu is aware. I will try to get more info.

tranny fluid can fix that kind of problem... that's B.S, this is manual tranny how about the sst i think there will be more problems with it.

any updates on this situation??

Nope...they still haven't replaced and and don't plan to. I have no obvious clutch slippage but do still have a dragging clutch...I's very slight, but I can feel it.

I have been waiting for the "official" fluid change, but I'm tired of waiting. I will be trying other fluids shortly.

Anyone know if the stock fluid can be safely mixed with syncromesh without foaming or any other adverse chemical reation?

My advice would be to wait. Don't void your warranty, especially since you know there is going to be an issue.

hmmm....im really starting to question weither or not i want to get a Evo X now....im looking into buying a new car around first of next year...(early '09)...however im also contemplating waiting for the 370z,New mustang Gt, New mazda Rx-7's....hopefully the 2009 mitsu evoX gsr 5spd will have this issure cleared up?...otherwise i might be looking elsewhere....

Most people don't have any issues with the 5spd...i wouldn't NOT by the car over that.

hmmm....im really starting to question weither or not i want to get a Evo X now....im looking into buying a new car around first of next year...(early '09)...however im also contemplating waiting for the 370z,New mustang Gt, New mazda Rx-7's....hopefully the 2009 mitsu evoX gsr 5spd will have this issure cleared up?...otherwise i might be looking elsewhere....

I wouldn't base a decision over this little issue. Remember, there's absolutely NO NEW PERFECT CAR! Like anything else in life, problems occur. Now if the transmissions broke down and left people stranded by the hundreds, that'd obviously be another story. Besides.. I'd bet the new Mustang would definitely have qualitly issues.

Anyhow, I feel Mitsu will step up to the plate. This is their Halo car and couldn't afford to build a bad vibe with this Flagship vehicle. Keep us all tuned and hopefully anybody else with a similar issue has reported it! Keep positive but don't give them too much slack! T

you still get the 5 year warrenty with the evo?

you still get the 5 year warrenty with the evo?

It's only a 3 year warranty, although it is still one of the best considering alot of manufacturers only warranty 3 years for the cobalt... (among others).

First Post! : )

my clutch started to slip today. anyone else having this problem? I thought that i read somewhere that this was a common problem with the X's. Anyway i sure hope that the dealer fixes it, but if not i guess ill have to get the act clutch darnit.lol

i just recently had a clutch problem, it gotten to the point where the gears will just start slipping as soon you accelerate. So i took the evo the dealer, and apparently they said the clutch is flied which Idk how at 1600miles. Now they are saying that I have to pay for a whole new clutch plus flywheel. Is there any way I can fight that to get it covered under the power train warranty ?

thats my prob too. theyre gonna tell me today if they will pay for it

i just recently had a clutch problem, it gotten to the point where the gears will just start slipping as soon you accelerate. So i took the evo the dealer, and apparently they said the clutch is flied which Idk how at 1600miles. Now they are saying that I have to pay for a whole new clutch plus flywheel. Is there any way I can fight that to get it covered under the power train warranty ?

Call your lawyer....unless you really were abusing it

dude that is some serious shiz...a clutch going bad before 2k miles is manufature defect...there should be no way that they can make you pay for it..

they said that my clutch was worn down all the way and dont wanna cover it. i called customer care and filed a claim against them and theyre sending out an investigator to look into it. not that its gonna help but im gonna whine and bitch till they pay for it

I'm at 8600 miles and mine started slipping at around 8400, it would slip at the slightest acceleration. I too am waiting to see what the dealer is going to do....any status on you guys?

Call your lawyer....unless you really were abusing it


How would one prove that it was/wasn't being 'abused' or not?

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Why would the dealers really care or not what the cause is for your clutch problem????? Mitsubishi pays them for their warrantied work anyway!!! It doesn't make any sense for a dealer to deny you guys.

Why would the dealers really care or not what the cause is for your clutch problem????? Mitsubishi pays them for their warrantied work anyway!!! It doesn't make any sense for a dealer to deny you guys.

Unless they do the work and then mitsubishi refuses to pay them for the work. dealers have to aprove warranty work with mitsubishi. it is not the dealers that deny you the work it is mitsu. the dealer's just already know what work will or will not be covered. So if your dealer is refusing warranty work then call MMNA.

I'm at 8600 miles and mine started slipping at around 8400, it would slip at the slightest acceleration. I too am waiting to see what the dealer is going to do....any status on you guys?
Yeah mine is totally stock still and just pushed over 10000 miles on my clutch. Last Thursday mine started to slip pretty bad between 3000-5000 rpm's. Called into the dealership the other day and talked with a tech and he said it was usual that the X's would have a clutch that slips such as I described. He said he have not heard of any X's clutch's being a problem. I got to schedule have it go in hopefully this week if not next week.....pending work schedule so I can drop the car off.

I've driven a standard 1990 Geo Storm GSi for about 95k as well as a 2006 Lancer ES for about 70k miles..

Both cars are still running and the clutch is as strong as as ever. Maybe a little drag at this point, but no signs of real slippage.


What do you guys think? Is this really a common issue with the X?

Is everyone sure in their driving habits? Their ability to shift "properly"? Not trying to sound like an ass, honestly just curious.

Really hope there aren't factory issues with the X's clutch.

Evo clutches are notorious for sucking balls from the factory. The dealership i bought my car from even flat out told me this. He was like, hope the clutch on this is better then the 8/9, those would need replacing by 10k miles.

I'm at almost 11k on my X now. I have no slipping issues.

Evo clutches are notorious for sucking balls from the factory. The dealership i bought my car from even flat out told me this. He was like, hope the clutch on this is better then the 8/9, those would need replacing by 10k miles.

I'm at almost 11k on my X now. I have no slipping issues.


Yikes.

6k and clutch is out. Weired because i don't have any modes and never launched above 4k rpm. Whats the deal?

how can you tell if your clutch is slipping???

Yeah mine is totally stock still and just pushed over 10000 miles on my clutch. Last Thursday mine started to slip pretty bad between 3000-5000 rpm's. Called into the dealership the other day and talked with a tech and he said it was usual that the X's would have a clutch that slips such as I described. He said he have not heard of any X's clutch's being a problem. I got to schedule have it go in hopefully this week if not next week.....pending work schedule so I can drop the car off.

Nice! So that means its going to covered under warranty? Yeah at first I thought it was slipping between the same rpm as yours (3k-5k) but then when I tried it at different rpms by accelerating a little hard and it would slip across the band. It can slip from 2k if I accelerate and also over 5k if I accelerate a little more than usual

how can you tell if your clutch is slipping???


It starts to slip when I have it in gear, accelerate a little more than usual but not WOT, the rpm will go up like 500k and then back down and continue. For example, i'm at 3000 rpm, I accelerate a little hard, it'll automatically jump from 3k to about 3500k and then instantly drop from 3500k down to like 3300k. Sorry if I didn't explain correctly, or confusing you. Hopefully someone will have a better explanation

so the RPM wil go up but the car wont move then when it goes down the car starts 2 go??

im new at this OEM clutch thing lol im used to racing clutches not OEM clutches

so the RPM wil go up but the car wont move then when it goes down the car starts 2 go??

im new at this OEM clutch thing lol im used to racing clutches not OEM clutches

Exactly! its kinda like having the clutch down and revving, that's what its pretty much doing...its "slipping" b/c the clutch isn't grabbing or "slipping" from the flywheel

Any news on that "new tranny fluid?"

Call your lawyer....unless you really were abusing it

I have no problem with them, cuz i had to complain to corporate. So we came to an understanding of them paying half of my ACT clutch and I will the other half plus $200 of the labor costs

Not a bad deal at all.

hmmm....im really starting to question weither or not i want to get a Evo X now....im looking into buying a new car around first of next year...(early '09)...however im also contemplating waiting for the 370z,New mustang Gt, New mazda Rx-7's....hopefully the 2009 mitsu evoX gsr 5spd will have this issure cleared up?...otherwise i might be looking elsewhere....

New Rx-7s? Where?

When I had my 350z, the stock clutch didn't last that long..it wouldn't grab as fast. I just went aftermarket and it was way better than stock. I'm not bad at shifting. However, I'm not perfect either. That's why I purchased the MR, for the SST transmission.

I have no problem with them, cuz i had to complain to corporate. So we came to an understanding of them paying half of my ACT clutch and I will the other half plus $200 of the labor costs

That's a great solution! Aftermarket clutch will be far better than your stock one. And it will hold more power down the road.

Clutch is gone...I got 11K miles from it.. not even a year. By the way never raced the car on any way... but this clutch will start slipping on everyone at some time. I'm not a perfect driver but I pulled the shit out of my mx6 for 13 years... stock clutch until I dropped it on the junker. So look no more the EvoX clutch does suck.. ACT on the way...:tumbleweed:

When replacing your clutch make sure to use the mitsubishi approved gasket RTV from Three Bond. Oh, there is only one tube in the USA... I just got my clutch replaced under warranty due to a leaky seal behind the throw out bearing. Even driving it with a new clutch I can tell it won't be long till it starts slipping again. It just doesn't grab hard enough for the amount of power the car puts out stock. Once I go aftermarket clutch, I plan to try to some BG synchromesh or redline fluid to see if that improves on the tranny fluid.

new rx7?
whered you get your information?
i havent heard of any new of a new rx7.
i would love to own one :)

I talked to the service manager @ my local dealership two days ago and even he said that the clutches in these cars are the worst part and THEY have known it since they released the cars.

My evo X has 20k miles, and mitsubishi dealer now is telling my that the clutch needs to be replaced. I get suprised because since i bought this car i have take it easy on it. I use it only weekends and nights! Is this posible?? and if it shouldnt be covered by warranty, i only have it for 2 years and a half. I bought it with 52 miles!
I'm thinking that the dealer damaged my car or something too, because they had my car for one week and couldnt find the problem. they gave it back to me and said they will call a tech fro mitsu to take a look at it. The tech came a month after and had my car for another week and a half, and final answer: is the clutch and flywheel and you have to pay $ 2300.
Any advise, have anyone gone through this?? can i fight to get warranty cover this??

My evo X has 20k miles, and mitsubishi dealer now is telling my that the clutch needs to be replaced. I get suprised because since i bought this car i have take it easy on it. I use it only weekends and nights! Is this posible?? and if it shouldnt be covered by warranty, i only have it for 2 years and a half. I bought it with 52 miles!
I'm thinking that the dealer damaged my car or something too, because they had my car for one week and couldnt find the problem. they gave it back to me and said they will call a tech fro mitsu to take a look at it. The tech came a month after and had my car for another week and a half, and final answer: is the clutch and flywheel and you have to pay $ 2300.
Any advise, have anyone gone through this?? can i fight to get warranty cover this??

Yeah, wearing out the clutch is pretty normal. Yours is a bit early, but I replaced mine at 27,000 miles (w/ 100+ whp over stock of course). $2300 is laughable though. Get yourself a Spec Stage 2, and have them put it in for a reasonable price (9-11 hours of labor). Cost me about $1250 total. Stock clutch isn't too good.

Oh and there's zero chance they'll replace it under warranty. It's a wear item.