: Subaru... You Officially Suck


TriStateEvo
04-07-2008, 04:19 AM
FROM: Subaru of America, Inc.
DEPARTMENT: Service Department
DATE: 04/04/2008

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APRIL 4, 2008
IMMEDIATE STOP SALE ORDER
ALL SUBARU DEALERS

We regret to inform you that we must place an immediate stop sale order on all of the 2008/2009 Subaru Impreza and Forester vehicles equipped with a 2.5L Turbo Engine produced with the beginning chassis number and later as shown below.
Model Starting Chassis Number Production Date

Forester 701045 2008/01/08
Impreza 523363 (SEDAN)/825183 (HATCH)2008/01/08



The reason for this immediate Quality Assurance action is that there have been several reports of “Engine Knocking Noise” from other markets on vehicles produced after the production dates listed.

Initial investigation confirms an internal wear issue on the failed units.

In the interest of preventing any possibility of failures for our customers, we have chosen to isolate any potentially affected vehicles by ceasing sales of the potentially affected units until the root cause and correction can be identified.

All the other displacement engines and the 2.5L Natural Aspirated Engine are excluded from this action.

Your region/distributor will be contacting you with a detailed list of affected vehicles assigned to your dealership. However, dealer trades cannot be tracked so please be aware of the affected VIN range.

If you have a vehicle in inventory that falls into the affected vehicle range, please ensure that your sales and service staff are immediately notified that the unit is un-saleable until further notice from SOA or your region/distributor.

If any of those vehicles has an unusual engine noise, please notify the SOA Technical Helpline immediately with all of the details and submit an E-QMR.

Should a customer bring an affected vehicle into your service department for an unusual engine noise, please immediately arrange that they are given the use of a clean SSLP vehicle and notify the Technical Helpline and submit an E-QMR.

You will be contacted shortly thereafter on how to proceed.

We are still investigating whether any of the SIA produced Legacy Outback turbo vehicles are affected. If any action is needed on the SIA vehicles, you will be notified early next week.

Jackygor
04-07-2008, 04:24 AM
Quality control at its finest I see.

shadywade
04-07-2008, 04:26 AM
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k186/wade87/subaru.jpg

Meero
04-07-2008, 04:28 AM
is this the WRX?
http://images-partners-tbn.google.com/images?q=tbn:n0SK8vihw0MvVM:http://www.mgroves.com/images/nelson_ha_ha.jpg (http://www.gamerchile.com/foro//index.php?showtopic=12159)

Jackygor
04-07-2008, 04:30 AM
^^^^

and STI

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2008-sti-discussion/118407-subaru-issue-turbo-stop-sale-certain-08-09-models.html

tons of owners are getting shaffffftteedddd

Meero
04-07-2008, 04:37 AM
STi's too??
Doublehttp://images-partners-tbn.google.com/images?q=tbn:n0SK8vihw0MvVM:http://www.mgroves.com/images/nelson_ha_ha.jpg (http://www.gamerchile.com/foro//index.php?showtopic=12159).........http://images-partners-tbn.google.com/images?q=tbn:n0SK8vihw0MvVM:http://www.mgroves.com/images/nelson_ha_ha.jpg (http://www.gamerchile.com/foro//index.php?showtopic=12159)

TriStateEvo
04-07-2008, 05:14 AM
I'm glad my Subaru division only ordered 3.

The two guys who held deposits at Subaru... we eventually switched to Evo Xs.

=)

Web9
04-07-2008, 05:34 AM
Wow...

Although, in their defense, if it had been a domestic brand, they probably would have kept quiet until a class action suit...

mitsugst4eva
04-07-2008, 06:07 AM
I am glad some company is taking ownership and stepping up to the plate. Shit happens and I'm glad they have the balls to fess up. No company is perfect. If anything, this makes me feel better about the company. However, it still puts a smile on my face and makes me say "Get the Evo X!!!" :bowlol:

soopah
04-07-2008, 06:48 AM
Hmmm, I have a 2.5l turbo engine in a 2008 Legacy GT, but mine was made earlier, I think. I should be safe.

_Chris_
04-07-2008, 10:36 AM
:slaphead:

Mr. Win
04-07-2008, 12:03 PM
I am glad some company is taking ownership and stepping up to the plate. Shit happens and I'm glad they have the balls to fess up. No company is perfect. If anything, this makes me feel better about the company. However, it still puts a smile on my face and makes me say "Get the Evo X!!!" :bowlol:

:+1: Agreed.

on2it
04-07-2008, 12:24 PM
I'm glad my Subaru division only ordered 3.

The two guys who held deposits at Subaru... we eventually switched to Evo Xs.

=)


nice one KMX! :) I hope they get to join here and give us their feedback.

Kooldino
04-07-2008, 01:18 PM
I guess this ends the Evo X vs STi debate.

I'm guessing their rod bearings were bad?

soopah
04-07-2008, 04:25 PM
When were the STI's produced? I think the first wave were made in November/December, not after Jan. 1, 2008. Of course, a big chunk of current stock would be affected. The ones I have seen here in Vancouver arrived at dealers in January.

EVOLUTIONARY
04-07-2008, 04:30 PM
Wow, glad I got the EVO! Not that I would have even considered getting the new WRX. Looks so plain now.

soopah
04-07-2008, 05:36 PM
Update from today:
IMMEDIATE STOP SALE ORDER
TO: GLR-- MAR-- NWR-- SCR-- SDC-- SWR Dealers
FROM: Subaru of America, Inc.
DEPARTMENT: Service
DATE: 04/07/2008

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Legacy vehicles have been added to the Stop Sale

We regret to inform you that we must place an immediate stop sale order on all of the 2008/2009 Subaru Impreza, Forester and Legacy vehicles equipped with a 2.5L Turbo Engine produced with the beginning chassis number and later as shown below.

Model
Body Type
Chassis Number
Production Date

Forester Wagon 701045 or later 2008/01/08 or later

Legacy 2.5GT-LTD 222825 or later 2008/02/04 or later
2.5GT-B 222958 or later 2008/02/04 or later
OBK 2.5XT-LTD 353835 or later 2008/02/01 or later

Impreza Sedan 523363 or later 2008/01/08 or later
Wagon 825183 or later 2008/01/08 or later


The reason for this immediate Quality Assurance action is that there have been several reports of “Engine Knocking Noise” from other markets on vehicles produced after the production dates listed.

Initial investigation confirms an internal wear issue on the failed units.

In the interest of preventing any possibility of failures for our customers, we have chosen to isolate any potentially affected vehicles by ceasing sales of the potentially affected units until the root cause and correction can be identified.

All the other displacement engines and the 2.5L Natural Aspirated Engine are excluded from this action.

Your region/distributor will be contacting you with a detailed list of affected vehicles assigned to your dealership. However, dealer trades cannot be tracked so please be aware of the affected VIN range.

If you have a vehicle in inventory that falls into the affected vehicle range, please ensure that your sales and service staff are immediately notified that the unit is un-saleable until further notice from SOA or your region/distributor.

If any of those vehicles has an unusual engine noise, please notify the SOA Technical Helpline immediately with all of the details and submit an E-QMR.

Should a customer bring an affected vehicle into your service department for an unusual engine noise, please immediately arrange that they are given the use of a clean SSLP vehicle and notify the Technical Helpline and submit an E-QMR.

You will be contacted shortly thereafter on how to proceed.

Luckily my LGT was made last year and is not a subject of the current stop sale / recall action.

Kooldino
04-07-2008, 06:37 PM
Lucky!

Vlncecast
04-07-2008, 06:58 PM
I knew you'd appreciate this KMX

ddawg1130
04-07-2008, 09:18 PM
Well, fingers crossed we don't have something happen to our babies...

HRCboy
04-07-2008, 09:57 PM
Glad I got one of the first 08 STI in Canada. :) I'm not affected by the range of numbers.. 820xxx. Besides that is what a warranty is for, if something goes wrong it's covered.

So far 4000km of stage 2 goodness with no problems.

As a Subaru owner I give them full marks for stepping up. This can potential cost them alot of money. How many car manufacturers find something wrong and just let things slide and hope things will go unnoticed?

This is not a recall... they are just being proactive. Only time will tell what this is all about.

UnctrldRage
04-08-2008, 01:11 AM
My friend just bought a 08 WRX Impreza....I'm going to have to let him know to get it checked out see if it falls into this affliction category.

PDXEvo
04-08-2008, 07:03 PM
I am curious as to what the root cause of the issue is.

soopah
04-08-2008, 11:25 PM
Me, too. Since it is specific to a batch of cars for a proven engine design it sounds like poor quality materials snuck in with a batch of parts. It should prove to be fairly isolated. This does not affect ALL 08 STIs, just those built from a certain date. Looks like Subaru has taken the first steps to contain the problem, now we just have to see how they take care of people who already bought the affected cars.