my question is... is it worth the money?? do i have to switch map everytime before i start driving even i already have switch map from stock? i plan on running the car with just straight pipe from turbo daily drive and some track time let me know plase if it worth the time and money??

do you have an 08 or 2010

IMO, it's worth it.
But if your a hit it and quit it type of person, who needs one tune and doesn't care about the other features, or switching maps, then NO.

depends on you. the user friendliness of the AP is second to none. i liked mine a lot, but had issues, which are rare by the way, so now i just have a tune from a local dsm shop. im not concerned about tuning and all that stuff, i just want a bit more reliable power i dont have to worry about. for $325 plus a test pipe, catback, and cone filter, i gained 90 whp.

It is worth it. I would go with it if I were you. It's very convenient.

Don't do it if you have a 2010

^^^explain. That may be more help than just saying "dont do it"

Some of the most import parameters are dicked up and displayed incorrectly for the 2010s..
Called Cobb, E-mailed Cobb, began two threads on Cobb's forum, And PMed them here...

NOTHING.

Send me your complaints. Send everything that you want COBB to know and Ill make sure that they get it and reply back. Seriously......send over a PM

my question is... is it worth the money?? do i have to switch map everytime before i start driving even i already have switch map from stock? i plan on running the car with just straight pipe from turbo daily drive and some track time let me know plase if it worth the time and money??

Are you near a tuning shop? That's the real question. Lets assume you are going to buy some basic bolt-ons, intake, exhaust, test pipe, maybe intercooler pipes and turbo inlet pipe. You will need a tune to get the most out of those mods. A friend of mine and a member here has those mods and doesn't have a tune. He's never complained and he flogs the piss out of his car. With a tune he could easily be over 300 at the wheels.

So if you buy the ap($495) you can expect around 300 running mods above and Stage 2 off the shelf map. You can get a tune for around the same price and put down more than 300 with those mods and have a dyno sheet to prove it.

I personally have the ap. I like the ap because I can switch back to stock or stage 2 in my driveway. I don't have the mods above but going from stock to stage 2 is a huge improvement(just runs super rich because I'm still on the stock cat). I just need to get a test pipe and I'd see even more gains. I can still get a tune and have it uploaded to my ap. Having the ap means I can uninstall the tune at any time. Getting a tune at a shop means you have to have either ECU flash to do it or have the shop put you back to stock if I'm not mistaken.

Kris

Send me your complaints. Send everything that you want COBB to know and Ill make sure that they get it and reply back. Seriously......send over a PM

PM sent.

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AP is total waste of money. Just find a place that tunes with open source. MUCH cheaper and offers way more features. No sense in sending money to a dying platform. IMO it's like buying Beta. Eventually, AP will go away fro these applications.

i have 2010 what is the bad side if i have 2010??

Well you obviously are only using OTS maps with it. I already stated earlier, some parameters and features are in error for us when it comes to tuning it yourself.

AP is total waste of money. Just find a place that tunes with open source. MUCH cheaper and offers way more features. No sense in sending money to a dying platform. IMO it's like buying Beta. Eventually, AP will go away fro these applications.

waste of money?? if i go to a shop and tune my car they want like $350-500 for one time tune so if i have cobb ap i could just switch map around and i just want to make more power from turbo-back exhaust straight pipe and drop-in filter and i do drive my very little on daily i want to take my car to track some time and that's all

/\ Then buy your AP.

/ Then buy your AP.

wat is the deal with buy or not to buy it man so many opinion man i a confuse right now one more question is do i have to connect the cobb ap everyday before i drive the car??

You obviously don't sound like you are going to do a custom tune or mod your car to heavily. That's why in your case, the AP may be appealing to you and seem worth while.

To me, no. Because I need to tune my car myself to run my setup.

Didn't mean to confuse you.

wat is the deal with buy or not to buy it man so many opinion man i a confuse right now one more question is do i have to connect the cobb ap everyday before i drive the car??

No you do not have to connect it everyday. It's set it and forget it pretty much.

The AP will also read and clear codes as well as log data. Their off the shelf maps are safe for all cars even if you don't have the supporting mods. There are members who run stage 2 on stock setup. You will feel the improvements.

The other benefit of the AP is it's resale value. You can't sell a tune from a local shop. Sorry.

But you have to answer the question is there a reputable shop close to you that can do the tune? Do you have the basic skills to operate an open source tuning software along with the hardware?

In the end if all you want is a one stop tune really either will do. However assuming you go to a reputable shop that can tune the evo x you will get more power from a pro tune than the AP.

Kris

Tha AP is also good if you can't get high ostane gas. You can retune for lower octane fuel in the middle of nowhere without having to hook up your laptop and doing pulls and logs.

Over 100 maps to choose from supporting fuel types 91, 93, E85 105. They have tunes for half a dozen intake setups. They have tunes for 800cc injectors for all octane levels.

So again you have to look at what you have installed and what is available in your area and what your plans are for the future. It would be a waste of money to tune a stock car if you plan on upgrading in the very near future.

Kris

Don't do it if you have a 2010

i have a 2010 map installed and no problems at all.

/\ Well you shouldn't be having problems..

It's when you try and tune it yourself. They can't log one of the most important parameters - Load Boost/Fuel. It's always stuck at 32.

LTFT cannot display negative percentiles via AP. Only in ATR it can.

I'm not going to go off on my rant. I was just saying if you plan on modding the car seriously aka needing a custom tune, then don't buy it.

/ Well you shouldn't be having problems..

It's when you try and tune it yourself. They can't log one of the most important parameters - Load Boost/Fuel. It's always stuck at 32.

LTFT cannot display negative percentiles via AP. Only in ATR it can.

I'm not going to go off on my rant. I was just saying if you plan on modding the car seriously aka needing a custom tune, then don't buy it.

I'm still a little new to the whole concept of tuning, I never tuned my previous car.

I was wondering if getting my car tuned by Cobb with the AP would be more beneficial or would an open source be? I plan on modding the car but very slowly, I also have the MY2010.

/ Well you shouldn't be having problems..

It's when you try and tune it yourself. They can't log one of the most important parameters - Load Boost/Fuel. It's always stuck at 32.

LTFT cannot display negative percentiles via AP. Only in ATR it can.

I'm not going to go off on my rant. I was just saying if you plan on modding the car seriously aka needing a custom tune, then don't buy it.

Can you tell me what version of AccessTUNER Race you are using and what exact issues you are seeing? Have you downloaded the most recent version and updated your AccessPORT?

We are aware of these issues and we are working to resolve them.

These small issues aside, this should not dissuade you from using AccessTUNER or your AccessPORT. We are always updating and improving our software all the time!

I will have some more information on this issue shortly.

Travis
COBB Tuning