I am going to set up the boot camp on my MacBook and I am wondering how much space I should allocate for it. I will only be using the AccessPort on the windows side but I thought I would ask and see how much I should set it to for the people who have done this.

Thanks guys/gals

Since only 32 bit versions of windows work on Mac's, you cannot allocate more than 32 GB for windows to run on your mac. I would suggest 30, I did 32 the 1st time I tried to install and it was still to large (windows would not install). The AP and ATR software function great. I use ATR all the time in my car on my Macbook pro. If you use a separate HD for the install you don't have to worry about drive size. However lugging around a separate HD with your laptop in a car would suck. Hope this help you out.

Since only 32 bit versions of windows work on Mac's, you cannot allocate more than 32 GB for windows to run on your mac. I would suggest 30, I did 32 the 1st time I tried to install and it was still to large (windows would not install). The AP and ATR software function great. I use ATR all the time in my car on my Macbook pro. If you use a separate HD for the install you don't have to worry about drive size. However lugging around a separate HD with your laptop in a car would suck. Hope this help you out.

Yea I am doing this so I can run ATR for a local shop to tune my car. The only thing I don't get is why he needs me to load it on my computer to tune my car... Maybe he will just use my computer to do the tuning? Either way he said to get it and also he is going to show me how to use it so when I move back home and go up 3,300 feet next year, I can call him and he talk me through what changes I will have to make.

WTF? Windows XP 32 bit can take larger than a 32GB HDD partition.

I'd give it like 10GB or something; I always give the VMWare XP instances at work 10GB, and run Outlook on them for mailboxes, and it's plenty of room.

and 10GB should be enough to run all the AP programs, ATR plus hold 5-6 maps?
I have no computer knowledge past using the basic programs. ahah even this ATR program is going to be a stretch for me.

Yeah I would imagine it would make his life easy to use your computer for your car. Gives you total access to the map. Just a heads up newer versions of bootcamp will format a small 200 MB partition (boot sector) that is needed for windows 7 users. This will cause your XP install to crash and not work correctly. During the XP install I highly advise re-formatting the partition that bootcamp made for you, and erase the samll 200 MB boot sector it made. Than XP will install without a hitch. This problem is random and I have had some macs install without this happening and some where I had to re-format with the XP install disc. Have fun!! As far as the other guy and the WTF if you actually read the post I said if you use a dedicated drive, size of the windows partition does not matter. For whatever reason windows 32 bit XP does not like anything bigger than 32 GB on a mac drive that is partitioned for a duel boot with OSX.

and 10GB should be enough to run all the AP programs, ATR plus hold 5-6 maps?
I have no computer knowledge past using the basic programs. ahah even this ATR program is going to be a stretch for me.

That should be plenty of space.

As for the 32GB limit, it's a limit of FAT32, the default file system that Bootcamp sets up. You can work around it within MacOSX itself, but for the purposes of what he's trying to do, it's not worth the hassle.

I over-reacted (shockingly enough), and I love you all.

Yeah I would imagine it would make his life easy to use your computer for your car. Gives you total access to the map. Just a heads up newer versions of bootcamp will format a small 200 MB partition (boot sector) that is needed for windows 7 users. This will cause your XP install to crash and not work correctly. During the XP install I highly advise re-formatting the partition that bootcamp made for you, and erase the samll 200 MB boot sector it made. Than XP will install without a hitch. This problem is random and I have had some macs install without this happening and some where I had to re-format with the XP install disc. Have fun!! As far as the other guy and the WTF if you actually read the post I said if you use a dedicated drive, size of the windows partition does not matter. For whatever reason windows 32 bit XP does not like anything bigger than 32 GB on a mac drive that is partitioned for a duel boot with OSX.

ahah so how would one re-formate the partition and erase the 200MB boot sector? ahah I think you underestimate when I say, I am good with basic functions and can do a fair bit, but when it comes to re-formating and such that goes over my head (although I am sure it isn't hard just never done it)

when bootcamp restarts your mac with your windows XP install disc as the boot source. it will start the windows setup. It will load a bunch of random drivers and such, then it will ask you where you would like to install windows and gives you a list of options (current hard drive partitions on your computer). there will be an unknown volume this is your Mac HD volume do not install on this volume or you will wipe OSX. The easiest way to tell which is your Mac HD is to make a note to yourself of the HD size (how big GB) the other will the windows formatted partition (the one you want to install on) and another unknown partition it will be just under 200 MB in size (the on you want to erase). Windows gives you the option to erase or format these partitions on the choose where you would like to install windows screen. There are only 2 or 3 options. If you run into trouble I'm happy to help.

when bootcamp restarts your mac with your windows XP install disc as the boot source. it will start the windows setup. It will load a bunch of random drivers and such, then it will ask you where you would like to install windows and gives you a list of options (current hard drive partitions on your computer). there will be an unknown volume this is your Mac HD volume do not install on this volume or you will wipe OSX. The easiest way to tell which is your Mac HD is to make a note to yourself of the HD size (how big GB) the other will the windows formatted partition (the one you want to install on) and another unknown partition it will be just under 200 MB in size (the on you want to erase). Windows gives you the option to erase or format these partitions on the choose where you would like to install windows screen. There are only 2 or 3 options. If you run into trouble I'm happy to help.

I should be able to follow thoughts instructions as it seems pretty straight forward. I probably wont be doing this till the weekend but if I run into an issue I will shoot you a PM... thanks :rock:

Just buy VMware Fusion, it's much easier to use. I had to put Bootcamp on my Mac, and the volume was so fragmented from years of use that the Boot Camp Assistant couldn't split the parition, and it would kernel panic. I had to delete my current OSX partition, create a smaller one (use all the size except for what you want for windows), reload OSX on to it, and then restore from a Time Machine backup to the new partition. Then I ran the Boot Camp assistant and installed Windows on the remaining space on the drive.

Using VMware Fusion is much simpler. Unless you need full use of the hardware, like for gaming or 3D intensive apps, use VMware.

I'd give more than 10GB. If you want to run a windows update and get the latest service packs, you'll burn through 10GB during the update pretty quickly. Especially if you have a swap file. I'd use 20GB to be safe and have some room to grow/waste.

I have a 250gig HD with windows on it, you can partition what ever you want. They do have a Mac version of the AP manager FYI. I just installed it last night worked great!

I have a 250gig HD with windows on it, you can partition what ever you want. They do have a Mac version of the AP manager FYI. I just installed it last night worked great!

they do? ahah I guess I should look before I go and do anything...

do they have a Mac version of the ATR?

Yeah Boiiii!

http://cobbtuning.com/info/?id=3059

No ATR, I'm sure they are working on that as well.

Oh and there is a way to run a 64bit PC on a mac. I was trying to set it up to run some 3D modeling software but got side tracked and never got around to it. You'll need at least 2 dual cores to be able to do it though.

Yeah Boiiii!

http://cobbtuning.com/info/?id=3059

No ATR, I'm sure they are working on that as well.

Oh and there is a way to run a 64bit PC on a mac. I was trying to set it up to run some 3D modeling software but got side tracked and never got around to it. You'll need at least 2 dual cores to be able to do it though.


Well with me now being able to use my MacBook to run my the accessport... I may just wait for the ATR program to be compatible rather than running windows... Im not in a rush to do it, i just need the ATR to have my car tuned by HP Logic here in Florida.

ATR with Mac support will be a little ways off yet. If you are using you Mac to tune, then I would keep your windows copy. Incidentally, this is how several of our in-house tuners run AccessTUNER Pro!

ATR with Mac support will be a little ways off yet. If you are using you Mac to tune, then I would keep your windows copy. Incidentally, this is how several of our in-house tuners run AccessTUNER Pro!

I havent done anything with ATR yet. I was just asked by the shop I will be taking my car to, to put ATR on so he can just use my lap top for the tune. I don't have a date set for this, nor am I in any kind of rush.
With a ruff guess, do you think there will be Mac ATR software out before April 2011?

If I run ATR with windows, will I still be able to send it over the the Mac side or will I have to download AccessPort manager on the windows side and just run everything off that?

The maps are their own file type so you wont have issues putting it on the AP on the Mac side.

The maps are their own file type so you wont have issues putting it on the AP on the Mac side.

ok perfect... so worst case is I have to run ATR on the Windows side... and just move the maps into my Maps folder on the Mac side. I am going to go take a look at the VMware Fusion tomorrow..